Explosions at Boston Marathon

[SA210]

I won't help you spin, lie or spread your bogus propaganda, You do a good job of that yourself, terrorist sympathizer. :tu

lol 74, 279

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Chump: 1
SA210: 0

Reason: post count smack is weak.

[cheguevara]

Afghan children 'killed by Nato air strike in Shigal'

Eleven children have been killed in a Nato air strike in eastern Afghanistan, officials and witnesses say.

http://rt.com/files/news/1e/a1/40/00/rtxybui_copy.si.jpg

where was the american outrage after this??

what happened in Boston is a tragedy but the above is a much bigger and more terrible terrorist attack tbh

[SA210]

Chump: 1
SA210: 0

Reason: post count smack is weak.


Chump needs your support to change the fact that we murdered an innocent American boy, I've kicked his ass too much lately, so your help I'm sure he appreciates...his shame is unbearable.

74,000 posts of not living a life and ankle biting and chasing male tail all over the Internets day and night while others are living life is pretty pathetic. :lol

[cheguevara]

He wasn't the target.

what do you know! the hellfire missile aimed and launched itself! :lmao

[SA210]

Afghan children 'killed by Nato air strike in Shigal'

Eleven children have been killed in a Nato air strike in eastern Afghanistan, officials and witnesses say.

http://rt.com/files/news/1e/a1/40/00/rtxybui_copy.si.jpg

where was the american outrage after this??

what happened in Boston is a tragedy but the above is a much bigger and more terrible terrorist attack tbh


Truth bombs. :tu

But be careful, the butthurt crowd in here will start making fun of child casualties by drones. Yea, they go there. That's how bad the butthurt is with them and how low they are as human beings, tbh.

[cheguevara]

as Dr. Paul said. They are attacking us because we are invading them.

but the general media and public think they attack us because we're free and peaceful :lmao They are jealous of our fat women, bad musicians and terrible reality shows :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

I won't help you spin, lie or spread your bogus propaganda, You do a good job of that yourself, terrorist sympathizer. :tu

lol 74, 279So you don't know who the actual target was.

It's pretty damn pathetic that you wither at any challenge to your worldview. You don't even care about being right anymore -- it's all about pushing your propaganda now.

[SA210]

as Dr. Paul said. They are attacking us because we are invading them.

Yup, but morons will ignore that fact and attack the messenger instead lol


but the general media and public think they attack us because we're free and peaceful :lmao They are jealous of our fat women, bad musicians and terrible reality shows :lmao


And CummDumpster is their perfect gullible slurping propagandist :lmao

Over 74, 000 posts of it :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

Yup, but morons will ignore that fact and attack the messenger instead lolHere, I've just exposed the messages as pretty ignorant and largely baseless.



And CummDumpster is their perfect gullible slurping propagandist :lmaoNever pass up a chance to make it personal, do you?

It's all you really have at this point.

:cry peace treaties :cry

[TSA]

Why don't you two bitches take your cat fight to PM's and stop derailing the thread.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm perfectly willing to stick to the subject of the Boston bombing in this thread.

Is SA210?

[SA210]

:lmao:rollinChump answered to "bitch"


I'm perfectly OK with letting Chump attempt to stop stalking and following me everywhere I go in this forum over his hurt puss and fragile ego. :tu

Will he get over me and quit me? I predict no. lol

[TeyshaBlue]

Yeah...he came to this thread after you meme'd the thread.

oh...wait.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao:rollinChump answered to "bitch"So did you.



I'm perfectly OK with letting Chump attempt to stop stalking and following me everywhere I go in this forum over his hurt puss and fragile ego. :tu

Will he get over me and quit me? I predict no. lolSo you only want to talk about me now.

Your choice.

[SA210]

Still can't quit me, as I correctly predicted. I was right :tu

:lol Chump answered to bitch, then admits he did

[ChumpDumper]

Again, if all you can talk about is me, we can't stop you.

[SA210]

lol still obsessed with me

lol we

[ChumpDumper]

So do you have anything to say about the actual Boston bombing or will you just keep going on about me?

[SA210]

You can try quitting me at any time and just stop following me. I'll see if you can stop getting personal and stop responding to my posts. :tu I predict no. lol

[ChumpDumper]

Too bad I was in this thread first.

You need to add facts to your enemies list as well. I predict you'll keep posting about me.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Remember when sa210 said he put chump dumper on ignore

[SA210]

Too bad I was in this thread first.

You need to add facts to your enemies list as well. I predict you'll keep posting about me.

So you are saying you'll be able to quit me and not respond to my posts from here on out in any other thread? Yes or no, Chump?


Let's see if you can commit to quitting me from this point forward. :tu I predict no, (again). lol

[ChumpDumper]

So have the SEAL looking guys been identified as such or something similar?

Would be kind of dumb for them to stage a covert op in uniform tbh.

[SA210]

Remember when sa210 said he put chump dumper on ignore

Then I owned him badly, yes I remember that :lol he wasn't expecting it, and he's not over it lol

[Nbadan]

dk

[FuzzyLumpkins]

74,000 posts of not living a life and ankle biting and chasing male tail all over the Internets day and night while others are living life is pretty pathetic. :lol

Chump: 2
SA210: -1

Reason: post count smack is still weak. The penalty is because homophobic references only make you look like a homosexual.

[SA210]

Chump: 2
SA210: -1

Reason: post count smack is still weak. The penalty is because homophobic references only make you look like a homosexual.


I hear a slurping sound

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Chump: 2
SA210: -3

Reason: Homophobic references still only make you look like a homosexual.

[SA210]

Chump: 2
SA210: -3

Reason: Homophobic references still only make you look like a homosexual.

Don't get angry because you're gay for Chump and make up imaginary points to impress the internet addict. Pretty pathetic btw, trying to impress someone who has no life :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Chump: 2
SA210: -4

Reason: Unintentional irony.

[SA210]

Chump: 2
SA210: -4

Reason: I hate when anyone exposes Chumps lies and agenda

[BobaFett1]

Chump -100
SA210 21

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Chump: 3
SA210: -5

Reason: dissembling rather than demonstrating supposed lies.

[Nbadan]

dp

[Nbadan]

dp

[Wild Cobra]

I doubt there were many drone attacks under Clinton.

That count is probably zero. Chump was only counting the usage of the Tomahawk system. I was pointing out a complete count would have included other cruise missile designs and drone attacks also.


Additionally, I don't see why people would be mad at Clinton for cruise missiles, but be cool with an occupying force.

You mean the Iraq war? That was a designated war. The entire country was a war zone. How do you feel about these drones attacking urban targets in Pakistan. Are you OK with it? All the collateral damage felt by people who don't know they are in a war zone?


If, as you stated, we make enemies because we cause collateral damage... Well the Iraq war had that in spades.
See above.

[SA210]

.

Abby Martin calls out the corporate media for their irresponsible coverage of the Boston Bombings, highlighting how mainstream outlets have spent more time speculating on events with reactionary disaster porn, instead of reporting on reliable facts.


Corporate Media Disaster Porn | Weapons of Mass Distraction



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxkSDLWGXs

[Winehole23]

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/04/no-information-found-on-cnn.html

[Wild Cobra]

LOL:

Newly installed CNN chief Jeff Zucker acknowledged that the network had experienced “a rough patch” since he took over earlier this year, but added, “At least no one was watching.”

[LnGrrrR]

That count is probably zero. Chump was only counting the usage of the Tomahawk system. I was pointing out a complete count would have included other cruise missile designs and drone attacks also.

You mean the Iraq war? That was a designated war. The entire country was a war zone. How do you feel about these drones attacking urban targets in Pakistan. Are you OK with it? All the collateral damage felt by people who don't know they are in a war zone?

See above.

So you think because it was designated as a war, that the people who live there won't be as upset about collateral damage and death to innocents? Do you really think that if a citizen of Iraq lost his son or daughter to a bomb, that he would be more accepting of it because it was an officially designated war zone?

[DarrinS]

http://imgur.com/a/f2iNp

[baseline bum]

http://imgur.com/a/f2iNp

404

[boutons_deux]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/17/boston-marathon-footage-suspect_n_3104885.html?utm_hp_ref=daily-brief?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=041813&utm_medium=email&utm_content=NewsEntry&utm_term=Daily%20Brief

[ChumpDumper]

So you think because it was designated as a war, that the people who live there won't be as upset about collateral damage and death to innocents? Do you really think that if a citizen of Iraq lost his son or daughter to a bomb, that he would be more accepting of it because it was an officially designated war zone?Of course he does.

Well, my entire family of noncombatants got killed by a cruise missile, but someone on a computer in America moved the goalposts in such a way that I just can't be angry about it. He also posted aerial photos of my house on a basketball forum. Such capabilities!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

So you think because it was designated as a war, that the people who live there won't be as upset about collateral damage and death to innocents? Do you really think that if a citizen of Iraq lost his son or daughter to a bomb, that he would be more accepting of it because it was an officially designated war zone?

Yup. That's seriously his argument believe it or not. Something about how using ground troops and combat "maintains a level of honor" when killing innocent civilians such that they don't hate us when we go nation building.

[LnGrrrR]

Yup. That's seriously his argument believe it or not. Something about how using ground troops and combat "maintains a level of honor" when killing innocent civilians such that they don't hate us when we go nation building.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure people who lost a son will be like, "Well, they killed my innocent boy, but since they did it in a manly fashion, with a gun, rather than a missile or drone, I can't stay that mad at them."

[Nbadan]

Other footage, still unreleased, shows that the two suspects stayed at the scene to watch the carnage unfold, a federal law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Susan Candiotti.

"When the bombs blow up, when most people are running away and victims were lying on the ground, the two suspects walk away pretty casually," said the official, who has seen the unreleased video. "They acted differently than everyone else," he added.

While video of at least one suspect planting the bomb exists, the FBI had chosen not to release it, according to the official. One reason, according to the official, is that were the media to repeatedly show the suspects leaving the bomb, it might cause some people to overreact if they came into contact with them.

DesLauriers said intelligence had been developed on the first suspect "within the last day or so." The official who spoke with CNN said images of the second suspect had been isolated Wednesday.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/boston-blasts/index.html

[Nbadan]

A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt


Minutes before the bombs blew up in Boston, Jeff Bauman looked into the eyes of the man who tried to kill him.

Just before 3 p.m. on April 15, Bauman was waiting among the crowd for his girlfriend to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon. A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked at Jeff, 27, and dropped a bag at his feet, his brother, Chris Bauman, said in an interview.

Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing Jeff’s legs apart. A picture of him in a wheelchair, bloodied and ashen, was broadcast around the world as he was rushed to Boston Medical Center. He lost both legs below the knee.

“He woke up under so much drugs, asked for a paper and pen and wrote, ‘bag, saw the guy, looked right at me,’” Chris Bauman said yesterday in an interview.

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-19/boston-bombing-victim-in-iconic-photo-helped-identify-attackers.html

[Nbadan]

This is one of the suspects the FBI is looking for

http://i.imgur.com/AllxrZl.jpg
bottom left, white hat dude

[Nbadan]

http://i48.tinypic.com/15gfqbp.jpg

[Nbadan]

http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o627/b6bill/number2-after-explosion_zps6a482040.jpg

[Nbadan]

Suspect 2

http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/image/suspect-1-and-suspect-2-zoomed-out

[cheguevara]

the bald man seems more suspicious to me tbh

[Nbadan]

guy, backpack on the ground, and deceased kid...

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5170aa69ecad04b24a00001e-660-495-630-/boston-28.jpg

[BobaFett1]

And the two suspects look very middle eastern. I think Obama is covering up and aiding and abetting these terrorists. I heard he is quickly deporting the Saudi national who was in the hospital. Who is this guy and why is Obama letting him leave quietly? I smell a RAT.

[TDMVPDPOY]

guy, backpack on the ground, and deceased kid...

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5170aa69ecad04b24a00001e-660-495-630-/boston-28.jpg

doesnt even look like the backpack he was holding in the other pic behind the other suspect

[TDMVPDPOY]

guy, backpack on the ground, and deceased kid...

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5170aa69ecad04b24a00001e-660-495-630-/boston-28.jpg

doesnt even look like the backpack he was holding in the other pic behind the other suspect

[Nbadan]

Looks like two kids to me....probably rigged up these bombs and just wanted to see if they could do it...

[SA210]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/59699_392867014153551_1626094801_n.jpg

[ElNono]

And the two suspects look very middle eastern. I think Obama is covering up and aiding and abetting these terrorists. I heard he is quickly deporting the Saudi national who was in the hospital. Who is this guy and why is Obama letting him leave quietly? I smell a RAT.

Is that you Al:lolx J:loln:lols?

[velik_m]

Suspect 2

http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/image/suspect-1-and-suspect-2-zoomed-out

http://news.yahoo.com/teen-am-not-boston-marathon-bomber-175755674--abc-news-topstories.html

[LnGrrrR]

Dan, thanks for those other photos. I really hope someone catches these fuckers.

[Nbadan]

http://news.yahoo.com/teen-am-not-boston-marathon-bomber-175755674--abc-news-topstories.html

Salah Barhoun, 17,

The pic is not Salah...

[Nbadan]

Dan, thanks for those other photos. I really hope someone catches these fuckers.

Sure...I don't advocate vigilante justice, but I think that social media will help us find these guys...

[Wild Cobra]

So you think because it was designated as a war, that the people who live there won't be as upset about collateral damage and death to innocents?

Not as many. There were a lot of Iraqi's who welcomed our presence there.


Do you really think that if a citizen of Iraq lost his son or daughter to a bomb, that he would be more accepting of it because it was an officially designated war zone?

Of course no. Acceptance is a poor choice of words in my view. "Understanding" however is different.

Why should these families living in Pakistan have any expectation that a missile from a drone might hit the room or building next to them? They aren't in a war zone.

[Nbadan]

A third man, who authorities believe was an accomplice of the bombing suspects, has been arrested according to NPR's Dina Temple-Raston. He may be the man, seen in videos earlier Friday, who police ordered to strip naked and was then put in the back of a patrol car.

Read more: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/04/19/177885868/shots-explosions-heard-as-boston-manhunt-continues

[Wild Cobra]

I find this interesting:

1PIRkMoEous

Found in this link: Three Cheers for Ruslan Tsarniof (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/346116/three-cheers-ruslan-tsarniof)

[boutons_deux]

he's a sailor!

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Photo/2013/04/19/609_boat__1366417546_6962.jpg

[irishock]

Kids innocent tbh

[apalisoc_9]

Kids innocent tbh

Would not be surprised if they framed this brothers so they can cover up the saudi dude tbh. No one ever talkes about how shady US-Saudi relationship is...

[apalisoc_9]

Kids innocent tbh

Would not be surprised if they framed this brothers so they can cover up the saudi dude tbh. No one ever talkes about how shady US-Saudi relationship is...

[irishock]

Gabe Morency: the whole story makes no sense

- How the fuck does a 19 year old kid with no military experience get out of a 100+ cop shootout driving a Honda?
- Why the hell did one of the suspects decide to rob 7-11 with the entire fuckin' country on his tail?
- His license plate was Terrorist-1. I mean REALLY!?

[LnGrrrR]

So the picture of the dude with the backpack, and the later one of him with the backpack on the ground, then the even later one after the bomb that shows him with no backpack... All those were faked?

Man, that's really going to piss off that guy who now has no legs who helped identify them. Although I guess he might be in on it too; I know if two dudes blew off my legs I would be willing to take a bribe from the government instead of trying to bring the real sociopaths to justice.

[irishock]

So the picture of the dude with the backpack, and the later one of him with the backpack on the ground, then the even later one after the bomb that shows him with no backpack... All those were faked?

Are you Bostoners still applauding your police department right now?

-Yeah, we had the entire city under hostage for 48 hours and finally caught this 19 year old fuckin' kid.

[Nbadan]

So the picture of the dude with the backpack, and the later one of him with the backpack on the ground, then the even later one after the bomb that shows him with no backpack... All those were faked?

Man, that's really going to piss off that guy who now has no legs who helped identify them. Although I guess he might be in on it too; I know if two dudes blew off my legs I would be willing to take a bribe from the government instead of trying to bring the real sociopaths to justice.


:lol

http://i.imgur.com/n0vmeOy.png

[baseline bum]

So the picture of the dude with the backpack, and the later one of him with the backpack on the ground, then the even later one after the bomb that shows him with no backpack... All those were faked?

Man, that's really going to piss off that guy who now has no legs who helped identify them. Although I guess he might be in on it too; I know if two dudes blew off my legs I would be willing to take a bribe from the government instead of trying to bring the real sociopaths to justice.

Amazing the stupid shit conspiracy theorists will buy into.

[LnGrrrR]

Are you Bostoners still applauding your police department right now?

-Yeah, we had the entire city under hostage for 48 hours and finally caught this 19 year old fuckin' kid.

Fuck yes. Considering the size of Boston, and the numerous means of transportation, these guys probably could have escaped easily if they weren't idiots. They had this one chance to find the guy; any other time and it could have been months, and who the fuck knows if he plans something else? And who the fuck cares about how old he is?

[ElNono]

Amazing the stupid shit conspiracy theorists will buy into.

http://cf.badassdigest.com/_uploads/images/13791/giorgiofeat__span.jpg

[irishock]

Fuck yes. Considering the size of Boston, and the numerous means of transportation, these guys probably could have escaped easily if they weren't idiots. They had this one chance to find the guy; any other time and it could have been months, and who the fuck knows if he plans something else? And who the fuck cares about how old he is?

Shit should have been done with 24 hours ago. They let one kid flee a cop shootout with a Honda car sporting Terrorist-1 license plate, and there was a tank there as well.

[LnGrrrR]

Shit should have been done with 24 hours ago. They let one kid flee a cop shootout with a Honda car sporting Terrorist-1 license plate, and there was a tank there as well.

I guess they should put you in charge of the local Boston police then, eh Irishock? I'm sure "2004-2007 Starbucks barista" will really impress them on the ol' resume.

[ElNono]

It's always so easy when you're not there and you don't know what's going on. They're shooting at eachother in the middle of a heavily populated city. These guys had explosives with them. Even the cops said they didn't have enough personnel to cordon off the whole area.

[irishock]

I guess they should put you in charge of the local Boston police then, eh Irishock? I'm sure "2004-2007 Starbucks barista" will really impress them on the ol' resume.

I don't need to be in charge of the local Boston police. Just train them officers on how to shoot a fucking gun. There. 2000 fucking cops and a tank and you can't catch a guy with grenades.

[ElNono]

I thought this was interesting:

A federal law enforcement official said he would not be read his Miranda rights, because the authorities would be invoking the public safety exception in order to question him extensively about other potential explosive devices or accomplices and to try to gain intelligence.

[LnGrrrR]

I thought this was interesting:

A federal law enforcement official said he would not be read his Miranda rights, because the authorities would be invoking the public safety exception in order to question him extensively about other potential explosive devices or accomplices and to try to gain intelligence.

Yeah, me too. I had never heard of that, and frankly, Id rather we read his rights and tried him as a citizen. I REALLY hope they don't try to use some kangaroo court bullshit. Is the evidence we have not good enough? :p

[LnGrrrR]

I don't need to be in charge of the local Boston police. Just train them officers on how to shoot a fucking gun. There. 2000 fucking cops and a tank and you can't catch a guy with grenades.

Im sure your extensive "getting live grenades thrown at you" training would have been invaluable in that situation.

[ElNono]

More on that exception here:

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/february2011/legal_digest

[irishock]

Im sure your extensive "getting live grenades thrown at you" training would have been invaluable in that situation.

Stop throwing that empathy card. I'm not trained but these Boston guys are. Christ. 2000 vs 2 and you can't nail em both. Keep believing in that BS story.

[irishock]

:lol I know you Boston sports fans are huge homers, but damn, that shit spreads to your local police department as well?

:cry we got him
:cry USA! USA!
:cry 300 million+ a day to catch a 19 year old stress free kind of guy

[LnGrrrR]

Stop throwing that empathy card. I'm not trained but these Boston guys are. Christ. 2000 vs 2 and you can't nail em both. Keep believing in that BS story.

Except they did get them both. Also, how much of an idiot do you have to be to admit ignorance and then still berate the people?

"I know nothing about being a cook, but I still think its bullshit that this cook can't make a soufflé in ten minutes!"

[irishock]

Except they did get them both. Also, how much of an idiot do you have to be to admit ignorance and then still berate the people?

"I know nothing about being a cook, but I still think its bullshit that this cook can't make a soufflé in ten minutes!"

No shit they did. It should've been less than 24 hours, even Tommy Lee Jones did better than these guys.

:cry that Honda Civic was fucking undestructable! They threw their grenades every where at the same time. Woops can't shoot em.

[LnGrrrR]

No shit they did. It should've been less than 24 hours, even Tommy Lee Jones did better than these guys.

:lol Either you are a troll, or a moron. With your posting history I lean towards the latter.

[irishock]

:lol worst shooters in a town with Ra'on Rondo playing in it
:cry moron!! :nope 300 million well spent
:lol firing blank shells like it's Die Hard 2


:lol Cop shoots.... Tsarnaev with the glove save!!

[thunderup]

:cry 300 million+ a day to catch a 19 year old stress free kind of guy
:lmao

[thunderup]

I'm glad this whole ordeal is over btw.

Godspeed the city of Boston.

[irishock]

The marathon thing itself was sad but the shootout crap was gold, tbh. Exposed that CNN ass

[Winehole23]

I thought this was interesting:

A federal law enforcement official said he would not be read his Miranda rights, because the authorities would be invoking the public safety exception in order to question him extensively about other potential explosive devices or accomplices and to try to gain intelligence. I wasn't aware constitutional rights could be waived for public safety exceptions. Where is that in the Constitution?

[admiralsnackbar]

I wasn't aware constitutional rights could be waived for public safety exceptions. Where is that in the Constitution?

Per an old classmate, it falls out of New York v. Quarles, 467 U.S. 649 (1984).

[Sportcamper]

If you are going to use a boat to escape make sure it is in water not Watertown…

[Sportcamper]

They took a Muslim terrorist to Beth Israel Hospital...
That’s going to piss someone off...:lol

[DMX7]

They took a Muslim terrorist to Beth Israel Hospital...
That’s going to piss someone off...:lol

They took the other one who died there too. The autopsy photo is on the web. Kat got fucked up.

[ElNono]

I wasn't aware constitutional rights could be waived for public safety exceptions. Where is that in the Constitution?

Miranda isn't a 'constitutional right' either, it's more of a prophylactic to ensure there's no fifth amendment violations. I posted a link above to the FBI site that explains where the exception comes from, historically.

[ChumpDumper]

This group singing catharsis at Boston sporting events is weird.

But props to the Sox for getting a Jew to lead the latest one.

[DarrinS]

This group singing catharsis at Boston sporting events is weird.

But props to the Sox for getting a Jew to lead the latest one.

Huh?

[spursncowboys]

Yeah, me too. I had never heard of that, and frankly, Id rather we read his rights and tried him as a citizen. I REALLY hope they don't try to use some kangaroo court bullshit. Is the evidence we have not good enough? :p
It might have to do with the precedent. They have to put into account these brothers might be apart of a group and might have other bombs in other locations.

[Galileo]

This was a stone-cold inside job, just like Waco, Oklahoma city, 9/11, JFK, MLK, RFK, Iran-Contra, and Watergate.

[redzero]

This was a stone-cold inside job, just like Waco, Oklahoma city, 9/11, JFK, MLK, RFK, Iran-Contra, and Watergate.

For what gain?

And... [citation needed]

[Wild Cobra]

This was a stone-cold inside job, just like Waco, Oklahoma city, 9/11, JFK, MLK, RFK, Iran-Contra, and Watergate.
You sure like losing credibility, don't you?

[DMX7]

This was a stone-cold inside job, just like Waco, Oklahoma city, 9/11, JFK, MLK, RFK, Iran-Contra, and Watergate.

lol, the only inside job was Iraq... and you couldn't get that right.

[Clipper Nation]

lol, the only inside job was Iraq...

Iran-Contra and Watergate were "inside jobs" too, tbh, but they were also failures...

[boutons_deux]

Boston Bombing Survivors Likely To Incur Millions In Medical Costs, But Here’s How Insurers Can Help (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/19/1891971/boston-bombing-medical-costs/)

Thanks to the tireless work of Boston’s medical professionals, the nearly 200 people who were injured in this week’s bombings have all survived (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/18/1888191/boston-save-lives/). But the health services that saved those lives don’t come without a cost. The medical costs resulting from the Boston Marathon bombings are projected to potentially exceed $9 million (http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797485-bombs-medical-costs-could-be-in-the-millions-experts-say?lite).

Prosthetics can cost up to $45,000 for adults and over $100,000 for children, who need to get them replaced several times as they continue to grow. Rehabilitation (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/19/1891971/boston-bombing-medical-costs/#) treatments for those who have lost limbs can run up $200 per hour. And even for those who were less seriously injured, the emergency room care (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/03/01/1659021/average-er-trip/) they received in the immediate aftermath of the explosions could easily top $40,000.

It’s not yet clear who will foot those bills. The hospital employees who are currently busy keeping their patients alive aren’t concerned about those details at this point. As a Brigham and Women’s Hospital spokeswoman told NBC News (http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797485-bombs-medical-costs-could-be-in-the-millions-experts-say?lite), “We have not even begun to have the discussion. Still caring for patients.” But eventually, when it’s time to figure out how much the survivors owe, insurance companies (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/19/1891971/boston-bombing-medical-costs/#) and hospital administrators could choose to help ease the burden on survivors by following the example laid out by Aurora, CO (http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797485-bombs-medical-costs-could-be-in-the-millions-experts-say?lite):

For some advice, Boston may even turn to leaders in Aurora, Colo. where last July a gunman killed 12 and wounded 70 people in a movie theater. Many survivors and their families have struggled with gaps in medical care (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/19/1891971/boston-bombing-medical-costs/#), said Rich Audsley, special advisor to the 7/20 Recovery Committee, which oversees a fund for Aurora’s victims.

“This is an opportunity for Boston, a very unique moment,” Audsley said. “If you have the right leadership quotient around the table from the community, they can have an honest dialogue: ‘What is it that we can do?’ That’s the place to begin.

“It’s what’s reasonable. For example, hospital administrators and insurance companies (can agree) to forgive some of the medical expenses for who those who don’t have insurance. They can come together to try to minimize the pain and suffering of the people who’ve been impacted,” added Audsley, a long-time United Way official. After the Aurora theater massacre, such talks were held with Denver-area hospitals and insurance providers (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/19/1891971/boston-bombing-medical-costs/#).



http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/19/1891971/boston-bombing-medical-costs/

[DarrinS]

This was a stone-cold inside job, just like Waco, Oklahoma city, 9/11, JFK, MLK, RFK, Iran-Contra, and Watergate.

2F-JQkQI3eg

[ChumpDumper]

Huh?Neil Diamond led a singalong of "Sweet Caroline" today at Fenway.

[Galileo]

For what gain?

And... [citation needed]

Terrorists like to kill and instill fear. They are thrill-seekers and don't need a motive, that's why they are so dangerous, they are hard to predict. We simply do not know when Obama or Holder will strike next.

[Galileo]

Eyewitness to Shootout that killed the older brother calls into radio station (AUDIO)

At around 1:35 she describes that it was the police that ran over the older brother and then shot him numerous times. Seems we have a witness here.

LISTEN TO AUDIO HERE:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?412023-Eyewitness-to-Shootout-that-killed-the-older-brother-calls-into-radio-station

:lmao

[redzero]

Terrorists like to kill and instill fear. They are thrill-seekers and don't need a motive, that's why they are so dangerous, they are hard to predict. We simply do not know when Obama or Holder will strike next.

So, Obama murdered those people for no reason, you have no proof of this whatsoever, and you want us to believe you?

[Galileo]

So, Obama murdered those people for no reason, you have no proof of this whatsoever, and you want us to believe you?

We already know that Obama orders assassinations by drone, and he ordered guns sold to violent drug lords in Mexico in the fast N furious scandal. We know Obama is a ruthless killer. What else do you need.

[Nbadan]

We simply do not know when Obama or Holder will strike next.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/stupid-burns.jpg

[Galileo]

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/stupid-burns.jpg

OK, smarty pants, tell us all when Holder and Obama will strike next?

:ihit

[redzero]

We already know that Obama orders assassinations by drone, and he ordered guns sold to violent drug lords in Mexico in the fast N furious scandal. We know Obama is a ruthless killer. What else do you need.

This is what conspiracy theorists actually believe.

Even assuming that what you posted is true, it does not follow that Obama was behind the Boston bombings.

You have no motive.
You have no explanation for evidence that contradicts your position.
You have no explanation for how the Tsarnaevs were set up.

You started at your conclusion, then rejected everything and everyone who disagrees with you.

[Nbadan]

OK, smarty pants, tell us all when Holder and Obama will strike next?

:ihit

Election day 2014

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/never-argue-with-stupid-people.jpg

[SA210]

Eyewitness to Shootout that killed the older brother calls into radio station (AUDIO)

At around 1:35 she describes that it was the police that ran over the older brother and then shot him numerous times. Seems we have a witness here.

LISTEN TO AUDIO HERE:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?412023-Eyewitness-to-Shootout-that-killed-the-older-brother-calls-into-radio-station

:lmao


:lmao Galileo owning ppl

Funny how they ignored this...now they will dismiss it like it was a mistake, not true..etc.. lol

http://audio.weei.com/a/73784687/linda-calls-in-to-describe-the-scene-on-dexter-st-in-watertown.htm

[boutons_deux]

How the NRA Impeded the Boston Bomber Investigation

http://readersupportednews.org/images/stories/alphabet/rsn-T.jpghe intense hunt for the Boston Marathon bombers illustrates another way that the National Rifle Association helps mass murderers - by delaying how quickly they can be identified.

The inability to quickly track the gunpowders in the Boston bombs is due to government policy designed and promoted by the NRA (http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/436-2nd-amendment-rights/17046-how-the-nra-impeded-the-boston-bomber-investigation#), which has found a way to transform every massacre associated with weapons into an opportunity for the munitions companies that sustain it to sell more guns, gunpowder and bullets.

The price for such delays was put on terrible display Friday morning when the two brothers, who had been caught on video placing the bombs, killed one police officer, wounded another and carjacked a motorist, creating conditions so unsafe that the 7th largest population center in America spent Friday on lockdown.

But for the NRA-backed policy of not putting identifiers known as taggants in gunpowder, law enforcement could have quickly identified the explosives used to make the bombs, tracking them from manufacture to retail sale. That could well have saved the life of Sean Collier, the 26-year-old MIT police officer who was gunned down Thursday night by the fleeing bomb suspects.

Had the suspects in the Boston bombings killed by slipping poison into bottled water (http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/436-2nd-amendment-rights/17046-how-the-nra-impeded-the-boston-bomber-investigation#) or canned food at a factory, or lacing spinach in a field with a deadly chemical, it would have taken only minutes to a few hours to identify exactly where that food was manufactured and how it moved through the food chain. That would have quickly narrowed the search for suspects.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/436-2nd-amendment-rights/17046-how-the-nra-impeded-the-boston-bomber-investigation

NRA, guns industry, and the Congressman they own: soft on gun crime, hard on criminals.

[ChumpDumper]

There are other witnesses who contradict her story.

Also, so what? Bitch was shooting at them. What would anyone expect?

[admiralsnackbar]

We already know that Obama orders assassinations by drone, and he ordered guns sold to violent drug lords in Mexico in the fast N furious scandal. We know Obama is a ruthless killer. What else do you need.

I usually try to respect people until they're unpleasant, but you, sir, are daffy as fuck. Don't you require any proof to make these kinds of correlations?

[BobaFett1]

I usually try to respect people until they're unpleasant, but you, sir, are daffy as fuck. Don't you require any proof to make these kinds of correlations?

Galileo on the weed.

[LnGrrrR]

:lmao Galileo owning ppl

Funny how they ignored this...now they will dismiss it like it was a mistake, not true..etc.. lol

http://audio.weei.com/a/73784687/linda-calls-in-to-describe-the-scene-on-dexter-st-in-watertown.htm

And you dismissed the guy who got his legs blown off who ID'd the bombers, right?

[SA210]

And you dismissed the guy who got his legs blown off who ID'd the bombers, right?


So they say lol...Btw..You dismissed the witnesses who said there were explosions at the World Trade Center BEFORE the planes hit, and still dismissing this witness. :lol


https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/13508_514881278569623_1895105221_n.jpg

[DMX7]

Eyewitness to Shootout that killed the older brother calls into radio station (AUDIO)

At around 1:35 she describes that it was the police that ran over the older brother and then shot him numerous times. Seems we have a witness here.

LISTEN TO AUDIO HERE:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?412023-Eyewitness-to-Shootout-that-killed-the-older-brother-calls-into-radio-station

:lmao

Cool. I don't care if they did.

She doesn't sound like a very good witness though. LOL, she's never heard gun shots before? Oh, yeah... that inspires confidence.

[SA210]

Cool. I don't care if they did.

:lol so you admit they lied. They are liars. lol Thanks :tu



She doesn't sound like a very good witness though. LOL, she's never heard gun shots before? Oh, yeah... that inspires confidence.

:lmao so if you never saw someone get run over by a police cruiser, you can't possibly ever witness it? So, if you never heard shots before you will never know what shots fired may be, not to mention she said she saw them shoot him dead..? lol


:lmao doesn't sound like a good witness?...she was crying out of the terror she witnessed

lol moronic sheeple

[LnGrrrR]

So they say lol...Btw..You dismissed the witnesses who said there were explosions at the World Trade Center BEFORE the planes hit, and still dismissing this witness. :lol


https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/13508_514881278569623_1895105221_n.jpg

I haven't heard anything about an NRA book. Oh and they didn't technically find the 19 year old in a raid, the person who owned the home found him in his boat. Did they tell the 19 year old to hide in that boat? Is he in on it too? Tell me how the story listed above matches up at all with the actual procedures.

[LnGrrrR]

And again, you trust a random caller over a dude who was THERE and obviously had his legs fucking BLOWN OFF. How many people do you know who are willing to get their legs blown off for a conspiracy?

[baseline bum]

And again, you trust a random caller over a dude who was THERE and obviously had his legs fucking BLOWN OFF. How many people do you know who are willing to get their legs blown off for a conspiracy?

That was Massachusetts; dude is an Obamatron.

[tlongII]

So they say lol...Btw..You dismissed the witnesses who said there were explosions at the World Trade Center BEFORE the planes hit, and still dismissing this witness. :lol


https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/13508_514881278569623_1895105221_n.jpg

Your village called. They don't miss you.

[ChumpDumper]

So they say lol...Btw..You dismissed the witnesses who said there were explosions at the World Trade Center BEFORE the planes hitThe ones in the basement? How the hell would they know what explosion was what? To say nothing of Rodriguez's conversion to Islam and profiteering
and still dismissing this witness. :lol


https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/13508_514881278569623_1895105221_n.jpgHow is that a witness?

lol :cry I'll lose my inside job :cry

[LnGrrrR]

Not to mention that the bombing was pinned on two suspects, not one... Kinda a big difference.

[Galileo]

Ron Paul Texas Straight Talk: Congress Exploits Our Fears to Take Our Liberty 4-22-13 (VIDEO)

This week, as Americans were horrified by the attacks in Boston, both houses of Congress considered legislation undermining our liberty in the name of “safety.” Gun control continued to be the focus of the Senate, where an amendment expanding federal “background checks” to gun show sales and other private transfers dominated the debate. While the background check amendment failed to pass, proponents of gun control have made it clear they will continue their efforts to enact new restrictions on gun ownership into law.

WATCH VIDEO:

http://www.dailypaul.com/282835/ron-paul-texas-straight-talk-congress-exploits-our-fears-to-take-our-liberty-4-22-13

*~X( at wits' end

[Galileo]

CSPAN Callers - Possible False Flag in Boston Bombing (VIDEO)

People call into CSPAN concerned that a possible false flag attack was perpetrated at the Boston Marathon.

WATCH VIDEO:

http://www.dailypaul.com/282874/cspan-callers-possible-false-flag-in-boston-bombing

*:-O surprise

[LnGrrrR]

So to recap, Galileo thinks the government killed 3 people and wounded over a hundred more in order to fail to pass gun control legislation. Boy, the government really is ineffective.

[Galileo]

So to recap, Galileo thinks the government killed 3 people and wounded over a hundred more in order to fail to pass gun control legislation. Boy, the government really is ineffective.

U r sheeple!

:lmao

[redzero]

:lol there's literally a 4chan post about inside information every time a mass murder happens. I go to 4chan probably far more than SA210 does, so I know not to take the bullshit anonymous posts without any evidence seriously.

And :lol at that poster being a "witness" to anything. SA210's impossible standards disappear whenever anybody agrees with him. Then, he'll believe anything so long as it contradicts the official story.

Random 4channer > eyewitnesses, photos of the brothers at the scene, the account of the driver that they kidnapped, etc.

[Clipper Nation]

CSPAN Callers - Possible False Flag in Boston Bombing (VIDEO)

People call into CSPAN concerned that a possible false flag attack was perpetrated at the Boston Marathon.

WATCH VIDEO:

http://www.dailypaul.com/282874/cspan-callers-possible-false-flag-in-boston-bombing

*:-O surprise
People also call into C-SPAN to yell "Bababooey" and talk about Howard Stern's penis, tbh.... truly a reliable source for information....

[Galileo]

FBI Fake Terror Plot History: Judge Napolitano (VIDEO)

The bombing at the Boston Marathon could well be another FBI sting gone bad.

WATCH VIDEO HERE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwTpJ1EoV6A&feature=player_embedded#!

*>:) devil

[Wild Cobra]

FBI Fake Terror Plot History: Judge Napolitano (VIDEO)

The bombing at the Boston Marathon could well be another FBI sting gone bad.

WATCH VIDEO HERE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwTpJ1EoV6A&feature=player_embedded#!

*>:) devil
I seriously doubt it, but if you wish to believe pigs fly, have at it.

[Sportcamper]

:lol Muslim Stoners
:lol Getaway boat dry docked
:lol They wuz framed
:lol Living on food stamps and government assistance
:lol Religion of peace
:lol Forum Terrorist sympathizers

[LnGrrrR]

It might have to do with the precedent. They have to put into account these brothers might be apart of a group and might have other bombs in other locations.

Yes, it seems they likely used the exception to ask him about add'l bombs/plans. That would be the only justifiable reason according to law.

[Galileo]

I seriously doubt it, but if you wish to believe pigs fly, have at it.

It is standard routine in US federal courts. WTFU.

[Nbadan]

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev told authorities from his hospital bed Monday that he and his brother acted alone, @CBSNews reports

http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_blog_Explosion_in_Copley_Square

LONE NUT CONSPIRACY THEORY

[TheProfessor]

Yes, it seems they likely used the exception to ask him about add'l bombs/plans. That would be the only justifiable reason according to law.
I think they anticipate that any court would side with them on the public safety exception. Considering the situation, it's pretty sensible.

[Nbadan]

Thanks Internet...


-snip-

NBC also reported that Tsarnaev told authorities in writing that he and his brother discovered instructions for bomb-making on the Internet.

-snip-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/22/boston-suspect-denies-terrorist-groups_n_3135523.html

[spursncowboys]

Thanks Internet...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/22/boston-suspect-denies-terrorist-groups_n_3135523.html

You can get that online? Yeah right. Next you'll tell me porn on the internet is free too!! :rolleyes

[Nbadan]

Tsarnaev was working out in the gym from 8 to 10 p.m. on Tuesday, listening to music on his iPod, when he struck up a conversation with fellow sophomore Zach Bettencourt.

"It's crazy this is happening now," Bettencourt recalled Tsarnaev telling him when the bombings came up. "This (these bombings) is so easy to do. These tragedies happen all the time in Afghanistan and Iraq." . .

Students were stunned to learn that the teen they knew as a friendly, pot-smoking transfer student from the UMass Boston, who took easy courses and got middling grades, eluded an army of law enforcement officers to become the most hunted man in the country.

Just as disturbing, said Bettencourt, was the casual way Tsarnaev chatted about the bombings during his gym workout.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2013/04/21/us/21reuters-usa-explosions-boston-college.html?hp

[Nbadan]

The weapons used by the two suspects, according to police: a pressure-cooker bomb, seven IEDs, an M4 carbine, two handguns, and a BB gun.


Why a BB gun?

[boutons_deux]

Why Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s Autopsy Should Include A Check For CTE (http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/04/23/1902591/why-boston-marathon-bombing-suspect-tamerlan-tsarnaevs-autopsy-should-include-a-check-for-cte/)
Could the amateur boxing career of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the deceased suspect in last week’s Boston Marathon bombings, have had a role in the massacre? That’s a question leading brain researchers at Boston University’s School of Medicine hope medical examiners look into when they perform an autopsy of the 26-year-old who was killed during a firefight with law enforcement officials early Friday morning.
Tsarnaev was a champion boxer who qualified for the national Golden Gloves competition and had once had dreams of qualifying for the U.S. Olympic team. That abbreviated career has led Drs. Robert Cantu and Robert Stern to urge examiners to study his brain for signs of chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), the degenerative brain disease found in boxers since the 1920s that has received renewed attention because it was found in the brains of former football players. Though both doctors doubt that CTE caused the behavior that led to the bombings, researchers shouldn’t overlook the chance to study Tsarnaev’s brain (http://www.boston.com/sports/marathon/2013/04/20/researchers-urge-special-brain-autopsy-bombing-suspect/UoZExTff0K4olSTyIV5WGL/story.html), they told the Boston Globe:


“Is it possible that some changes might have gone on in his overall functioning due to his boxing and potentially related brain disease? Yes,’’ said Stern, a BU professor of neurology and neurosurgery. “Anything is possible. But to then jump to the disease leading to well-planned behavior like this, I couldn’t go there.’’ [...]

“We can’t think of their brains as being normal,’’ he said. “But there are too many people who do such bizarre and terrible acts that it’s unlikely it’s all due to one terrorist gene or disease.’’

http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/04/23/1902591/why-boston-marathon-bombing-suspect-tamerlan-tsarnaevs-autopsy-should-include-a-check-for-cte/

[Nbadan]

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0116/4362/files/moh-boston-1_grande.jpg
Here are the two brothers taking cover behind the black Mercedes SUV and shooting
towards Watertown Police officers. (Taken at 12:46:11AM)

[Nbadan]

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0116/4362/files/moh-boston-2_grande.jpg
The shooters were also driving the green sedan on the left. They had the back passenger
door open and were going back into the car where they had additional supplies (assumingly,
more ammunition and explosives). They also had backpacks at their feet where they also
had additional supplies.

[Nbadan]

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0116/4362/files/moh-boston-4_grande.jpg
Here it’s clear to see the brothers taking aim and firing on the officers. (Taken at 12:47:57AM)

[Nbadan]

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0116/4362/files/moh-boston-5_grande.jpg
This is a zoomed in view from the last image. The red circle highlights the pressure cooker
bomb that was used just moments after this photo was taken. The use of this explosive
created an enormous cloud of smoke that covered the entire street. While the street was
still cloudy with smoke one of the brothers started running down the street towards the
officers, while still engaging them in gunshots. As he got closer to the officers, within
10-15 yards of them he was taken down. From my vantage point I did not see whether he
was tackled to the ground or brought down by gunshots.

[Nbadan]

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0116/4362/files/moh-boston-6_grande.jpg
As the one brother was running toward the officers the second got back into the SUV, turned
it around in the street and proceeded to accelerate at the vehicle barricade. This image shows
the black SUV charging the officer vehicles. (Taken 12:50:57AM)

[Nbadan]

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0116/4362/files/moh-boston-7_grande.jpg
This is a zoom-in from the last image and the red circle highlights where one of the brothers
was taken down and still laying in the street. The black SUV proceeded to accelerate towards
the officers and drove in between the two cars at the top of the picture. The SUV side swiped
both cars taking out doors and windows and ultimately broke through the vehicle barricade and
continued driving west on Laurel St. This was the last I saw of the black SUV.


The full account and the rest of the photos are here: http://www.getonhand.com/blogs/news/7743337-boston-bombing-suspect-shootout-pictures

[Nbadan]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1323038.1366501815!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/boston-marathon-explosions-suspect.jpg
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings, was shot by police on Thursday night. He died shortly afterward.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-marathon-bombers-lived-squalid-ramshackle-apartment-article-1.1323047#ixzz2RMLMNBH7

[Nbadan]

There has been a rumor floating around for some time that there was a third bomber in Boston....a female...


Federal authorities are closely scrutinizing the activities of the wife of the dead Boston Marathon bombing suspect in the days before and after the attack.
The authorities are looking at a range of possibilities, two senior law enforcement officials said, including that she could have — wittingly or unwittingly — destroyed evidence, helped the bombers evade capture or even played a role in planning the attacks. As part of the investigation, F.B.I. agents are trying to determine whether female DNA found on a piece of a pressure cooker used as an explosive device in the attacks was from Katherine Russell, the wife of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the officials said.

One of the officials said that a fingerprint had also been found on a bomb fragment and that investigators had tried to collect DNA and fingerprint samples from several people whom the authorities are scrutinizing in addition to Ms. Russell.

Federal authorities took a sample of Ms. Russell’s DNA on Monday in Rhode Island, where she has been staying with her parents, the officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/30/us/tsarnaev-wife-katherine-russell-scrutinized-by-authorities.html?_r=0

[Wild Cobra]

There has been a rumor floating around for some time that there was a third bomber in Boston....a female...



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/30/us/tsarnaev-wife-katherine-russell-scrutinized-by-authorities.html?_r=0
Yes, isn't there a woman visible in the videos with a backpack as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they found a third unexploded devise, and wasn't there a fourth along the parade route? Those backpacks only hold one pressure cooker. There had to be at least three people, unless they made two trips.

[boutons_deux]

Keystone Kops, FBI division: "federal law prevented us from investigating the bomber"! :lol

F.B.I. Said to Conclude It Could Not Have Averted Boston Attack

The F.B.I. has concluded that there was little its agents could have done to prevent the Boston Marathon bombings, according to law enforcement officials, rejecting criticism that it could have better monitored one of the suspects before the attack.

That conclusion is based on several internal reviews that examined how the bureau handled a request from a Russian intelligence agency in 2011 to investigate whether one of the suspects, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, had been radicalized during his time in the United States.

Mr. Tsarnaev, who along with his brother, Dzhokhar, came to the United States about a decade ago from the Russian republic of Dagestan, was killed during a shootout with the police four days after he and his brother detonated two bombs at the finish line of the marathon, killing 3 people and injuring more than 200, the authorities say.

Members of Congress have contended that the F.B.I. should have done a more extensive investigation of Mr. Tsarnaev in response to the Russian request. And they have said the bureau should have followed up with Mr. Tsarnaev after he returned from a trip to Russia in 2012.

But F.B.I. officials have concluded that the agents who conducted the investigation and ultimately told the Russians that there was no evidence that Mr. Tsarnaev had become radicalized were constrained from conducting a more extensive investigation because of federal laws and Justice Department protocols. Agents cannot use surveillance tools like wiretapping for the type of investigation they were conducting.

The officials have also determined that had the agents known that Mr. Tsarnaev had traveled to Russia for months in 2012, they probably would not have investigated him again because there was no new evidence that he had become radicalized.

The most recent criticism of the F.B.I. from Congress came on Wednesday, when Representative William Keating, Democrat of Massachusetts, sent a letter to James B. Comey, the incoming F.B.I. director. In the letter, Mr. Keating demanded that the bureau respond to several unanswered questions about its actions in the years before the attack.

“What I am looking to do is identify our security shortcomings and change them,” Mr. Keating said in the letter. “Without forthright information from the F.B.I., we are prevented from taking the critical steps needed to protect the American public.”

Mr. Keating said there were many “open questions” about how the F.B.I. shared information, conducted its investigation and monitored the travel of Mr. Tsarnaev.

F.B.I. officials often review how the bureau has handled investigations after attacks, and they have sometimes acknowledged mistakes.

After the 2009 Fort Hood shooting, which left 13 people dead, the criticism of the F.B.I. was far more pointed. The F.B.I. appointed one of its former directors, William H. Webster, to conduct a formal review into how the bureau handled its investigation of the gunman before and after the attack.

That review, which found that the bureau had made mistakes in handling intelligence information, resulted in recommendations for changes that the F.B.I. could make to its information sharing and training.

In the Boston case, the F.B.I. has no plans to appoint an investigator to examine its procedures. But inspectors general from four federal agencies, including the Justice Department, said that they would be working together on their own investigation into how the government handled intelligence before the attack. The F.B.I. has been cooperating with the inspector generals by giving them investigative files and the opportunity to interview agents.

A spokesman for the F.B.I. declined to comment, citing the investigation by the inspectors general.

The F.B.I. first learned that Mr. Tsarnaev may have been radicalized in early 2011, when Russian intelligence officials sent a letter to F.B.I. agents stationed at the American Embassy in Moscow. The letter, according to the F.B.I., said that “he was a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer, and that he had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the United States for travel” to Russia to join a terrorist group.

The letter prompted the F.B.I. to open an investigation in Boston. As part of that inquiry, counterterrorism agents looked at Mr. Tsarnaev’s criminal, education and Internet histories and found little that made them suspicious.

That April, F.B.I. agents interviewed Mr. Tsarnaev’s parents, and shortly thereafter they interviewed him and found nothing suspicious. Two months later, the agents closed the investigation of Mr. Tsarnaev, determining that they could not find any information linking Mr. Tsarnaev to extremists or extremist beliefs.

The F.B.I. went back to the Russian intelligence service to request more information on Mr. Tsarnaev but was not sent anything, according to bureau officials. The F.B.I. made another request in 2011, but the Russians once again did not send any information.

Mr. Tsarnaev did not show up again on the F.B.I.'s radar until four days after the bombings, when his body was identified at a Boston-area hospital after the shootout. Several hours later, the F.B.I discovered in its files that it had investigated him in 2011.
It is unclear whether the F.B.I. was informed by the Department of Homeland Security in 2012 that Mr. Tsarnaev had returned from his trip to Russia.

Shortly after realizing that there was no formal way of notifying agents that someone they had investigated may have been traveling outside the United States, the F.B.I. and the Department of Homeland Security changed their procedures so that agents are given written notification that someone they investigated had traveled abroad.


While these changes are likely to streamline information sharing in the future, one law enforcement official said that “it’s fair to say that had these adjustments been in existence before the attacks, the outcome would likely not have been any different.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/08/02/us/fbi-said-to-conclude-it-could-not-have-averted-boston-attack.html?from=homepage

... while NSA suspects every American as being a terrorist and worthy of vacuuming up everybody's communications.

[Nbadan]

Russia Warned U.S. About Boston Marathon Bomb Suspect Tsarnaev: Report
Source: nyt/reuters


Russian authorities warned the FBI in 2011 about Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of two Chechen brothers accused of carrying out last year's Boston Marathon bombings, but U.S. authorities missed chances to detain him, NBC News reported on Tuesday.

Citing a congressional report it said could be released by the House of Representatives Homeland Security Committee as soon as Thursday, NBC News said the Russian intelligence agency FSB cabled the FBI about its concerns in March 2011, warning that Tsarnaev was known to have associated with militant Islamists.

The network said the FBI opened an investigation of Tsarnaev that month conducted by a joint task force of federal, state and local authorities. Tsarnaev was interviewed in person, and a memo was sent to the Customs and Border Protection database called TECS that would trigger an alert whenever he left or re-entered the United States.

But the investigation was closed in June 2011 after finding Tsarnaev had no links to terrorism, NBC quoted the report as saying.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2014/03/25/us/25reuters-usa-explosions-boston-congress.html?hp

the US Security Appartus will hold any AMERICAN who's name is similar to a name on the "Do Not Fly" list, yet misspelled a very foreign-sounding Russian name .........and he gets in and out of the country.....

[ChumpDumper]

At least you think he did it.

lolSA210 probably wants to post a YouTube about it so bad right now.

[Venti Quattro]

Tzarnaev gets the death penalty. Serves the cunt right

[CosmicCowboy]

Of Course, Massachusetts will never actually kill him.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Tzarnaev gets the death penalty. Serves the cunt right

It'd be nice if they'd strap his ass to pressure cooker bomb and make him sit there for an undisclosed amount of time. Maybe in 10 mins we blow you up, maybe tomorrow, maybe next week.....

[Silver&Black]

Tzarnaev gets the death penalty. Serves the cunt right

:tu


It'd be nice if they'd strap his ass to pressure cooker bomb and make him sit there for an undisclosed amount of time. Maybe in 10 mins we blow you up, maybe tomorrow, maybe next week.....

:tu

[DMX7]

Of Course, Massachusetts will never actually kill him.

What do you mean? Because it was federal court?

[boutons_deux]

http://www.legaleasesolutions.com/lawstoreblog/appeal-process-for-death-penalty-in-federal-cases/

http://www.capitalpunishmentincontext.org/resources/dpappealsprocess

Lawyers to delay Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev execution ‘by 18 years’

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/577761/Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-Boston-Marathon-bomber-delay-Death-Row-execution-18-years