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SenorSpur
04-16-2013, 08:05 PM
Obviously, everyone knows that last year's trade with the Warriors enabled the Spurs to jettison the final 2 years of RJ's ridiculous contract ($10 mil this season & $11 mil next season). It also put the Spurs in the position to free up $10 mil off the books this summer, with Jack's deal expiring. Economics aside and with the benefit of hindsight and all that has transpired since (RJ's low production, Jack's low production and eventual meltdown, injuries to key players and now the T-Mac signing), does anyone believe the Spurs would've been better off simply keeping RJ, even in a diminished role capacity, along with that precious 1st round pick in the 2012 draft, rather than making the trade with the Warriors?

Guys, this is just a question not to advocate a redo.

therealtruth
04-16-2013, 08:09 PM
No. RJ wouldn't have hit 6 3's in game 6.

ElNono
04-16-2013, 08:10 PM
No

Monkeyboy14
04-16-2013, 08:11 PM
come on..

timtonymanu
04-16-2013, 08:12 PM
Still a great trade. Unloading RJ was worth losing a 1st round pick.

timtonymanu
04-16-2013, 08:13 PM
Its possible Kawhi doesnt develop as much as he has if RJ was still here.

DesignatedT
04-16-2013, 08:14 PM
Nope.

BatManu20
04-16-2013, 08:15 PM
Getting rid of that awful contract was one of the great moves the FO has ever pulled off.

Legacy
04-16-2013, 08:17 PM
HELL.NO.

Budkin
04-16-2013, 08:17 PM
No fucking way. To even think it is disgusting.

CGD
04-16-2013, 08:20 PM
I'm pissed we missed the chance to get Festus Ezeli.

FkLA
04-16-2013, 08:21 PM
OP, are you stupid or something ?

crc21209
04-16-2013, 08:23 PM
Helllll no. RJ just seemed to bring the entire team down with his lazy ass play on both ends. He didnt deserve to play with the likes of Tim, Tony, and Manu tbh. That, and Kawhi wouldnt be where he is right now if RJ were still here...

timtonymanu
04-16-2013, 08:27 PM
:lol "precious" 30th pick

palangi
04-16-2013, 08:33 PM
this right here!!! he would have been nice to have. a legit big with athleticism and a good shot blocker.


I'm pissed we missed the chance to get Festus Ezeli.

CGD
04-16-2013, 08:40 PM
That was meant to be in blue text...

johnpaulwall21
04-16-2013, 08:41 PM
jefferson = jackson. neither provided much of anything

Robz4000
04-16-2013, 08:41 PM
:lmao this can't be a serious thread

SenorSpur
04-16-2013, 08:48 PM
I'm pissed we missed the chance to get Festus Ezeli.

So am I. There's no question the trade had to be made. I do hate the Spurs missed the chance to nab Ezeli. The Spurs certainly could've used a young player with his skills. In the new economic climate, 1st round picks do become precious.

dunkman
04-16-2013, 09:12 PM
+10M is too much for what RJ produces at this point. Kawhi is much better and the Spurs can get a decent SF backup for around the vet minimum. Unloading RJ's contract could make it possible to keep Splitter.

therealtruth
04-16-2013, 09:30 PM
So am I. There's no question the trade had to be made. I do hate the Spurs missed the chance to nab Ezeli. The Spurs certainly could've used a young player with his skills. In the new economic climate, 1st round picks do become precious.

The Spurs would have probably wasted the pick on another undersized guard or a Euro prospect. When's the last time the Spurs drafted a shot blocking big with size?

Chinook
04-16-2013, 09:59 PM
There will probably end up being some good second-round player that will make Spurs fans complain about giving up the pick instead of just amnestying Jefferson, but I still think it was a good move. Had the Spurs kept the pick and drafted Ezeli, they would not have picked up Baynes, and I think Aron is better than Festus, which should render any complaints about not having the pick last year moot.

Floyd Pacquiao
04-16-2013, 10:08 PM
nah jefferson was/is a soft pussie that never brought anything to the table. jack brought defense, toughness, balls, not pussing out in crunch time...jack>dick

L.I.T
04-16-2013, 10:57 PM
Ezeli is worth an extra 10M, keeping the corpse of RJ around, and possibly losing the ability to resign Splitter. Of having much cap flexibility this offseason? Yeah. No.

Broken down 2013 Capspace + No RJ >>>> Ezeli.

Sean Cagney
04-16-2013, 10:59 PM
HELL NO........ HELL NO! That is all.
jefferson = jackson. neither provided much of anything
One hit some threes and played some D in last years playoffs, that alone >>>>>>>>>> Jefferson, plus the contract is off the books now next year whereas RJ would have still be here making 11 million. I still have no clue why the Spurs resigned RJ and for that much after his horrible first year here.

sananspursfan21
04-16-2013, 11:12 PM
RJ didn't even give san antonio a chance to compete like Jax did. Almost immediately after the swap, Spurs really picked up steam. I remember vividly last year reading the "game grades" having to miss the games and just wondering if the Spurs were any different than the ones that faced the Grizzlies. Soon after Jax came around, games seemed like a downhill battle. Not saying he was the sole reason, but he really sparked it in everybody, that and signing diaw really brought the change these guys needed last year. maybe T-Mac will do something similar on a smaller scale

SenorSpur
04-16-2013, 11:16 PM
HELL NO........ HELL NO! That is all.
One hit some threes and played some D in last years playoffs, that alone >>>>>>>>>> Jefferson, plus the contract is off the books now next year whereas RJ would have still be here making 11 million. I still have no clue why the Spurs resigned RJ and for that much after his horrible first year here.

That's the better question.

The_Worlds_finest
04-16-2013, 11:30 PM
Would you dump Splitter for Al Jefferson?

Mugen
04-16-2013, 11:58 PM
Jack could have peed on Pop's face the moment he got here and Ezeli can turn into the next Serge Abaka and I'd still look fondly on the day we got rid of HWSNBN.

exstatic
04-17-2013, 12:20 AM
There are Ezelis available every draft. Sucker GMs who essentially pay $10M for a #30 pick are much harder to find. :lol

BG_Spurs_Fan
04-17-2013, 01:14 AM
Sucker GMs who essentially pay $10M for a #30 pick are much harder to find. :lol

Well there's only one I can think of :lol

racm
04-17-2013, 01:29 AM
The Spurs saved 10 million for a raw big man and got T-Mac on the cheap.

I'd take the First Round Virgin over Dick any day.

DapDaGenius
04-17-2013, 01:43 AM
The Spurs would have probably wasted the pick on another undersized guard or a Euro prospect. When's the last time the Spurs drafted a shot blocking big with size?

Why did they draft Marcus Denmon?

racm
04-17-2013, 01:45 AM
Why did they draft Marcus Denmon?

Because they liked his numbers and he wouldn't be a risky pick.