Comics/Myths/Pulp Fiction and....

[Avante]

.....Hollywood.

Let's see...

Comics

Superman
Batman
Spiderman
Flash
The Hulk
The Fantastic Four
The Green Hornet
The Avengers
Wonder Woman
Ironman
Captain America
The X-Men
Green Lanthern
DareDevil

Myths

Hercules
Samson...hmmm?
Thor
Jason and the Argonauts
Sinbad
King Arthur

Pulp Fiction

Conan
Tarzan
King Kull
John Carter
Doc Savage
Lord of the Rings
Zorro
Red Sonja
Solomon Kane
Sherlock Holmes
Frankenstein...the first sci fi novel, written by a teenage girl.
Dracula

Still can't figure out why no....Elric of Meliborne movie. There is nothing in all of heroic fantasy any better. H.P.Lovecraft has a ton of stuff that belongs on the silver screen. The books of A.E.Merritt. Olaf Stapledon's...Odd John...tailor made for the big screen. DeCamps...Thongor...stories would work.

Getting back to comics, where's the Submariner? John Jones the Martian Manhunter?


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Odd John: A Story Between Jest and Earnest is a 1935 science fiction (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Science_fiction) novel by the British (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/United_Kingdom) author Olaf Stapledon (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Olaf_Stapledon). The novel explores the theme of the Übermensch (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch) (superman) in the character of John Wainwright, whose supernormal human mentality inevitably leads to conflict with normal human society and to the destruction of the utopian (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Utopia) colony founded by John and other superhumans.
The novel resonates with the ideas of Friedrich Nietzsche (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche) and the work of English writer J. D. Beresford (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/J._D._Beresford), with an allusion to Beresford's superhuman child character of Victor Stott in The Hampdenshire Wonder (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/The_Hampdenshire_Wonder) (1911). As the devoted narrator remarks, John does not feel obliged to observe the restricted morality of Homo sapiens (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Homo_sapiens). Stapledon's recurrent vision of cosmic angst (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Angst) – that the universe may be indifferent to intelligence, no matter how spiritually refined – also gives the story added depth. Later explorations of the theme of the superhuman and of the incompatibility of the normal with the supernormal occurs in the works of Stanisław Lem (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Lem), Frank Herbert (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Frank_Herbert), Wilmar Shiras (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Wilmar_Shiras), Robert Heinlein (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Robert_Heinlein) and Vernor Vinge (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Vernor_Vinge), among others.
The book is mentioned by Julian May (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Julian_May) in Intervention, part of the Galactic Milieu Series (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Galactic_Milieu_Series). It is also responsible for coining the term "Homo superior (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Homo_superior)" [1] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-1)[2] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-2)


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[Reck]

The Elric saga would be on a scale of The Lord of the Ring. Too costly imo. No one wants to invest too much time and effort into a massive project. Only Peter Jackson is crazy enough to delve into the world of Melnibone.

[bus driver]

u have way too much time on your hands....:wakeup get a job

[Trill Clinton]

i used to be a huge marvel fan growing up. i never liked DC comics, always thought they were lame and for the older crowd. but yea, marvel was the shit and had the GOAT comicbook artwork, their cards were dope too.

the indie comics were pretty good is maxx still around?

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/m/maxx2.jpg

[Spur|n|Austin]

u have way too much time on your hands....:wakeup get a job

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Avante]

The Elric saga would be on a scale of The Lord of the Ring. Too costly imo. No one wants to invest too much time and effort into a massive project. Only Peter Jackson is crazy enough to delve into the world of Melnibone.

While everyone knows about The Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit, that can't be said about Elric. More of a cult following, so it would be...who?...with the kids. So a massive project without a for sure audience, I see your point.

As you know the stories are incredible, Moorcock nails it.

[Avante]

u have way too much time on your hands....:wakeup get a job

I done paid my dues now I don't have to work and make more than I did at work. Yep, living in the USA, love it!!!!

[Spur|n|Austin]

I done paid my dues now I don't have to work and make more than I did at work. Yep, living in the USA, love it!!!!

You're American?!

[Avante]

i used to be a huge marvel fan growing up. i never liked DC comics, always thought they were lame and for the older crowd. but yea, marvel was the shit and had the GOAT comicbook artwork, their cards were dope too.

the indie comics were pretty good is maxx still around?

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/m/maxx2.jpg

I bought everything, keep in mind...10cents, 15cents. I had the very first Fantastic Four. Now it's worth thousands and I gave all my comics away years ago, breaks my heart.

Marvel ws on a whole different level than DC, we all saw it. Far more readable and the art was amazing. The DC characters totally unrealistic (not that we buy comics looking for realism) while the Marvel gang were more interesting.

I am against taking guys like Conan and doing what they want with him. They need to stick with what Robert E. Howard actually wrote which is far better anyway.

[Avante]

You're American?!

Wouldn't wanna be anything else. Just a mutt however, have no idea what mix.

[Avante]

far better dick for you avante you like taking guys like conan and doing hahahahahahaha

Let's talk about Conan, Charlie.

If you are looking for excitement there it is. He starts off (book one) running from a pack of wolves, they chase him into some rocks where he discovers a cave, in that cave he comes upon a giant skeleton, some king on a throne with the crown and his huge sword. Of course the thing comes to life......

12 books of that sort of ...wow! The thing about Conan is that he was a badass alright but not superhuman, he had his hands full with a gorilla, was actually geting his ass kicked before jumping on it's back and making it tap out.

Conan is ultra cool, ya mess with him, you're dead, he wants a woman he takes her, a man of very few words.

[Avante]

Almost 20 years of pitiless cucumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring dick blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a dick? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Now Conan wasn't the only character that Robert E. Howard wrote about, Charlie. He also had King Kull, Solomon Kane, El Borak and even wrote some westerns. Cat was from Texas. Nobody wrote heroic fantasy/sword & sorcery better than R.E.H, yep.."da man".

Why after his mother died he committed suicide, ???

[Reck]

i used to be a huge marvel fan growing up. i never liked DC comics, always thought they were lame and for the older crowd. but yea, marvel was the shit and had the GOAT comicbook artwork, their cards were dope too.

the indie comics were pretty good is maxx still around?


http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/m/maxx2.jpg

I was the same way. Marvel Comics was where it was at.

I changed my stance on that throughout the years however.

I like DC comics more now than Marvel's stuff. Marvel became stagnant with their shit. To this day they haven't release anything new. They keep rehashing their stuff while DC comics keeps burrying them.

Thank god for those movies or else Marvel would have a big ass RIP sign.

[DisAsTerBot]

I was the same way. Marvel Comics was where it was at.

I changed my stance on that throughout the years however.

I like DC comics more now than Marvel's stuff. Marvel became stagnant with their shit. To this day they haven't release anything new. They keep rehashing their stuff while DC comics keeps burrying them.

Thank god for those movies or else Marvel would have a big ass RIP sign.

dc just "rehashed" all 52 of their titles.......so there's that

[J.T.]

Marvel and D.C. are quite different, so I don't understand why some people go out on a limb to defend one over the other. I mean if I had to pick I'd go with D.C. because of Green Lantern (one of the more interesting comic book universes tbh) and of course the Batman. But I also enjoy Captain America...glad he is getting his own movies now and allowing more people into his universe even if it's just a two hour rundown as planned by the movie studios. My father also made sure I grew up on Spider-Man, who I've become less of a fan of in recent years but only because of the Tobey Maguire movies. The new one wasn't bad.

Consume what you like. Ignore what you don't. Brand allegiance is fucking stupid.

[Reck]

dc just "rehashed" all 52 of their titles.......so there's that

Right. But this "rehashing" is a good one imo.

I would call this a remastering of sorts.

Oh and let me rephrase myself. Marvel is all but dead. Just wiki them and they're barely making comics. All they have going is the Uncanny X-men.

[DisAsTerBot]

Right. But this "rehashing" is a good one imo.

I would call this a remastering of sorts.

Oh and let me rephrase myself. Marvel is all but dead. Just wiki them and they're barely making comics. All they have going is the Uncanny X-men.

cool, well i havent read any of the new 52 so i couldnt say. Just mentioned it because they have been rebooting it all lately.

[Avante]

Marvel and D.C. are quite different, so I don't understand why some people go out on a limb to defend one over the other. I mean if I had to pick I'd go with D.C. because of Green Lantern (one of the more interesting comic book universes tbh) and of course the Batman. But I also enjoy Captain America...glad he is getting his own movies now and allowing more people into his universe even if it's just a two hour rundown as planned by the movie studios. My father also made sure I grew up on Spider-Man, who I've become less of a fan of in recent years but only because of the Tobey Maguire movies. The new one wasn't bad.

Consume what you like. Ignore what you don't. Brand allegiance is fucking stupid.

Can't go with brand allegiance is stupid. Ever own a British made car like an MG or MGB? Something wrong all the time. I have a Toyota truck pushing 300 thou and never had any problems.

Companies that product CD's, big difference in Arhoolie from Document. Just like there is between Fat Possum and Alligator. How about a Swanson TV dinner and a Banquet?

As far as comics go, I'd love to have all those I once had back but wouldn't be keeping up with it today. The comic Conan far far inferior to what R.E.W. wrote.

[J.T.]

Can't go with brand allegiance is stupid. Ever own a British made car like an MG or MGB? Something wrong all the time. I have a Toyota truck pushing 300 thou and never had any problems.

Companies that product CD's, big difference in Arhoolie from Document. Just like there is between Fat Possum and Alligator. How about a Swanson TV dinner and a Banquet?

As far as comics go, I'd love to have all those I once had back but wouldn't be keeping up with it today. The comic Conan far far inferior to what R.E.W. wrote.

I'll make an exception with brand allegiance with respect to vehicles. But if you're feeding yourself Swanson OR Banquet all the time, you just come off as a lazy fuck to me. And I can say this because I did that for a really long time and I was drowning in lazy fuckitude at the time, so I know. I probably just have this opinion because of my mother...who picked up this habit from her mother about always needing to have the best possible brand name items even if buying all of those expensive brand names makes money tighter than it needs to be. Of course I'd rather drink Pepsi than Joe's Cola or whatever off-brand shit is being sold at a store near you, but half the time it's unnecessary.

Like if you just willingly pass on experiencing Green Lantern or Flash because the only thing that gets you to come over to the D.C. side is Superman or the Batman. Gotta be the heavy hitters to pull your precious eyes away from that X-Men book, right? I guess I should have said brand allegiance is fucking stupid when it causes you to pass on a good thing.

[Avante]

I don't mind the now and then Swanson's. Fuck Banquet.

I'd never buy a comic because of the company. It would be about the 5-10 pages I scanned while debating on buying it. The cover having everthing to do with it, yep...shallow. Im a sucker for cover art. Some of those old WEIRD TALES (paperback) covers, classic!!!!

[J.T.]

I don't mind the now and then Swanson's. Fuck Banquet.

I'd never buy a comic because of the company. It would be about the 5-10 pages I scanned while debating on buying it. The cover having everthing to do with it, yep...shallow. Im a sucker for cover art. Some of those old WEIRD TALES (paperback) covers, classic!!!!

I enjoy cosmetic aspects of entertainment media like cover at too. A lot of people just slap shit together at the last minute before bringing their product to market. No thanks. If you believe in your product you will make sure it comes in a good package.

[LnGrrrR]

I'm sure some movie will explore Lovecraftian themes within the next decade or so... After all, Hellboy was rather successful.

[leemajors]

I'm sure some movie will explore Lovecraftian themes within the next decade or so... After all, Hellboy was rather successful.

Like the Re-Animator, In the Mountains of Madness, or Dagon movies?

[Avante]

Lovecraft totally sells it. Nobody does....in bed with a reading lamp, pouring down rain outside story...better. A master.

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[Latarian Milton]

the ironman series drew me into the marvel fan base tbh. tony stark is a true badass who totally overthrows the traditional image of a superhero.

[Avante]

I enjoy cosmetic aspects of entertainment media like cover at too. A lot of people just slap shit together at the last minute before bringing their product to market. No thanks. If you believe in your product you will make sure it comes in a good package.

Speaking of cover art...



http://frankfrazetta.org/viewimage.php?loc=frank_frazetta_manape.jpg

[LnGrrrR]

Like the Re-Animator, In the Mountains of Madness, or Dagon movies?

I meant a big Hollywood movie :)

[Mister Sinister]

I'd watch a Namor movie, tbh. I don't think he'd get his own title, though, it'd have to be a similar deal with Hawkeye or Widow.

[Avante]

I'd watch a Namor movie, tbh. I don't think he'd get his own title, though, it'd have to be a similar deal with Hawkeye or Widow.

What movie was that?

[Mister Sinister]

What movie was that?
Hawkeye was in Thor, Widow was in Iron Man 2. Realistically, it would make sense to throw Namor into a Captain America movie (if you're putting him into the Marvel Cinematic Universe), or, if his rights went to Fox (or Sony, or whoever has Fantastic Four), a Fantastic Four movie.

[ohmwrecker]

Nobody wants to see an Aquaman or Submariner movie.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why is hollywood so interested in reboots, but wont add more or new villains into the story that has been made live-action, if those guys are popular in the comics and cartoon, i see no reason why they cant be in the movies....ppl just want something new to watch, not keep on watchin reboots being made from another directors angle...

[Mister Sinister]

Nobody wants to see an Aquaman or Submariner movie.
I agree. I'm just saying I'd watch a Namor movie, for my part. For that matter, if they did an Aquaman standalone, and it were based on DCAU!Aquaman (Or Badass!Aquaman), I'd watch that, too.

I don't think Wonder Woman could carry her own movie either, for pretty much the same reason. Nobody gives a crap about Wonder Woman or Namor enough for them to have their own title, and Aquaman still has the joke character stigma the 60's cartoons hit him with.

[admiralsnackbar]

Proto-pulp, but J.S. LeFanu, MR James, and HG Wells got well ripped off in "The Woman in Black."

[Avante]

Nobody wants to see an Aquaman or Submariner movie.

I agree about Aquaman, why not a Submariner movie?

[Cane]

I'm surprised there isn't a movie about Warhammer yet tbh. There's a market and that franchise is all about epic carnage which is perfect for a blockbuster. The Warhammer Story is just a bunch of stuff that's been stolen before but what else is new when it comes to Hollywood

[Avante]

I'm surprised there isn't a movie about Warhammer yet tbh. There's a market and that franchise is all about epic carnage which is perfect for a blockbuster. The Warhammer Story is just a bunch of stuff that's been stolen before but what else is new when it comes to Hollywood

Hollywood needs to check out those old....WEIRD TALES...mags. So much great stuff there that is lost to todays audiences. Totally agree about Warhammer...good one!!!

[ohmwrecker]

I agree about Aquaman, why not a Submariner movie?

Why is Submariner more interesting than Aquaman?

[Avante]

Why is Submariner more interesting than Aquaman?

The same reason all Marvel-ites are more interesting than DCers. We can begin with the art.

[ohmwrecker]

The same reason all Marvel-ites are more interesting than DCers. We can begin with the art.

The art of the comics has nothing to do with an imaginary feature film. Why is the story of Submariner more interesting than Aquaman?

[Avante]

The art of the comics has nothing to do with an imaginary feature film. Why is the story of Submariner more interesting than Aquaman?

First of Namor is a prince from Atlantis, second of all his exploits far more exciting than those of Aquaman. Now add the fact he simply looks cooler which is a biggie.

[ohmwrecker]

First of Namor is a prince from Atlantis, second of all his exploits far more exciting than those of Aquaman. Now add the fact he simply looks cooler which is a biggie.

Isn't there something about Atlantis in the mythology of Aquaman? Why are his exploits more exciting? He kind of looks like a gay, underwater vampire. Is that cool?

[Avante]

Isn't there something about Atlantis in the mythology of Aquaman? Why are his exploits more exciting? He kind of looks like a gay, underwater vampire. Is that cool?

I can't think of any gay who looks like a Superhero.

You've read the stories, real easy to see why Submariner is the better character, why play dumb?

[Avante]

Must see....

Ironman III
Thor
Hercules....starring The Rock...who will be the least muscular of all.

[Trainwreck2100]

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[Trainwreck2100]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229341&p=7141719#post7141719

[GoodOdor]

Sheessssshhhhh! so unoriginal!!!!!!1111!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

Hey Avante, why do you do....0....and never originate any new threads?

[Avante]

Hey Avante, why do you do....0....and never originate any new threads?

I challenge you to come up with something right here all your very own, I don't think you have anything you could share at all. You're a leg humping leech and that is all.

Dude, you have nothing at all....ever?????????????

[rascal]

http://youtu.be/fdgY9vgRcRw

Jason and The Argonauts

[rascal]

http://youtu.be/xiz0Emk3Wp0

Fantasy Masterpieces

I have Fantasy Masterpieces #2 from April 1966