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boutons_deux
04-18-2013, 04:16 PM
We already know that corporations, wealthy, the governmental plutocracy are fundamentally against true democracy where the the citizens' votes count and the corporations/1% $MS count for nothing.





http://www.truth-out.org/progressivepicks/item/15516-can-capitalism-tolerate-a-democratic-internet-an-interview-with-media-expert-robert-mcchesney

cheguevara
04-18-2013, 04:22 PM
I'm glad people are finally waking up to what I been preaching for months/years.

We don't live in a democracy since the early 1900s or even a bit earlier. And if you consider blacks and women, we never lived in a true democracy. But the real heist started early in the 1900s. And is continuing now. Regarding the Internet, initiallly it gave power to the people, but the "1%" is trying to take the power away and employ the internet as a tool to have even more control and power. Unfortunately it seems like a losing battle for americans.

All we can hope for is this heist to be documented somewhere for later civilizations.

FuzzyLumpkins
04-18-2013, 04:32 PM
I'm glad people are finally waking up to what I been preaching for months/years.

We don't live in a democracy since the early 1900s or even a bit earlier. And if you consider blacks and women, we never lived in a true democracy. But the real heist started early in the 1900s. And is continuing now. Regarding the Internet, initiallly it gave power to the people, but the "1%" is trying to take the power away and employ the internet as a tool to have even more control and power. Unfortunately it seems like a losing battle for americans.

All we can hope for is this heist to be documented somewhere for later civilizations.

Your sense of history sucks especially about the early 20th century. Ted Roosevelt used the Sherman Act to bust up RR, steel, banking, and oil trusts amongst others. He helped usher in consumer advocacate institutions like the FDA. You had a period of largesse following ww1 but then there was the crash and special interests lost their hold. That is why things like the income, capital gains and corporate tax rates were where they were at.

Prior to that era everything was dominated by industrial elites in the north and prior to 1864 plantation owners in the south. Look up the gilded age. The downward trend began in the 1950s and the cold war and most recently with the NDAA and establishment of the HSA.

cheguevara
04-18-2013, 04:42 PM
Your sense of history sucks especially about the early 20th century. Ted Roosevelt used the Sherman Act to bust up RR, steel, banking, and oil trusts amongst others. He helped usher in consumer advocacate institutions like the FDA. You had a period of largesse following ww1 but then there was the crash and special interests lost their hold. That is why things like the income, capital gains and corporate tax rates were where they were at.

Prior to that era everything was dominated by industrial elites in the north and prior to 1864 plantation owners in the south. Look up the gilded age. The downward trend began in the 1950s and the cold war and most recently with the NDAA and establishment of the HSA.

disagree, it all started coming downhill early in the 1900s with Rockefeller and Morgan bending all legislative powers to their advantage and waging brutal war against their competitors. The banking laws were forever changed and that marked the beginning of the end.