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BatManu20
04-22-2013, 05:01 PM
The Memphis Grizzlies (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/page/MEM/memphis-grizzlies) are one of the best defensive teams in basketball. And the man in the middle of it, literally, is Marc Gasol (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/1231870/marc-gasol).

According to Chris Vernon (http://twitter.com/ChrisVernonShow/status/326411915553288193), Gasol will be named the 2012-13 Defensive Player of the Year.

Gasol, in terms of traditional stats, doesn't necessarily impress. He averaged just 1.7 blocks, 1.3 a game behind league leader Serge Ibaka (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/1622540/serge-ibaka). Gasol pulled in 7.8 rebounds a game, almost five a game fewer than Dwight Howard (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/498287/dwight-howard), the league leader.

But Gasol's impact can be found simply in this: With him on the floor, the Grizzlies enjoyed an incredible 95.4 defensive rating. With Gasol on the floor, the Grizzlies allowed 99.3 points per 100 possessions. With him off, 105.9. His impact defensively for Memphis is pretty obvious.

Gasol anchored the league's second-best overall defense and while he wasn't swatting shots or dominating the defensive glass, his high intelligence in defending the pick-and-roll and understanding space makes him a very excellent choice.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22116327/report-marc-gasol-to-be-named-defensive-player-of-the-year



Eh, Duncan was robbed. Moving on.

z0sa
04-22-2013, 05:04 PM
DPOY hasn't had literally any merit for years now. I'm almost glad TD didn't win it at this point.

irishock
04-22-2013, 05:05 PM
Good tbh. See what happened to the Spurs after Pop won COY last spring?

Brunodf
04-22-2013, 05:05 PM
:lolFat Gasol has Conley/T.Allen and a top 5 rebounder on his team, Gasol winning the DPOY is a joke, hell i am not sure if he is the best defender on his own team.

baseline bum
04-22-2013, 05:08 PM
Good tbh. See what happened to the Spurs after Pop won COY last spring?

They came a James Harden three from making the Finals?

spurraider21
04-22-2013, 05:08 PM
:lolFat Gasol has Conley/T.Allen and a top 5 rebounder on his team, Gasol winning the DPOY is a joke, hell i am not sure if he is the better defender on his own team.

Have you seen "fat gasol" defend a pick and roll tbh. He's pretty damn good. and the defensive rating differential with gasol on/off the court is about -7.4, way more extreme than Duncan. a case can be made for Gasol

irishock
04-22-2013, 05:09 PM
They came a James Harden three from making the Finals?

They were down 12+ in the fourth quarter at home in game 5. That shit shouldn't have happened to a Pop team. It's a backdoor sweep no matter how you look at it. The Clips and Jazz were like the Hawks and Pistons to the Cavs team in 09.

Brunodf
04-22-2013, 05:10 PM
Have you seen "fat gasol" defend a pick and roll tbh. He's pretty damn good. and the defensive rating differential with gasol on/off the court is about -7.4, way more extreme than Duncan. a case can be made for Gasol
Yeah, :lolhis PnR D vs Clips Saturday. Noah is much better than him everywhere.

baseline bum
04-22-2013, 05:11 PM
Interested to see if it was Kunta Kinte or Bible Kemp getting second place.

DAF86
04-22-2013, 05:16 PM
First white men to win it?

Thread
04-22-2013, 05:16 PM
A dust collector. A pretty. A door stop.

1. Make the playoffs.
2. Win the last game you play.

There is nothing else.

baseline bum
04-22-2013, 05:21 PM
A dust collector. A pretty. A door stop.

1. Make the playoffs.
2. Win the last game you play.

There is nothing else.

You should be happy; Kobe won the last game he played and them niggas made the playoffs.

DMC
04-22-2013, 05:21 PM
I told you none of the Spurs were going to win anything. When are you guys going to start heeding my advice.

spurraider21
04-22-2013, 05:22 PM
Yeah, :lolhis PnR D vs Clips Saturday. Noah is much better than him everywhere.

:lol box score junkie
:lol watches sportscenter, not the games
:lol clippers pick and roll bigs coulnd't do shit
:lol chris paul, eric bledsoe, chauncey billups, matt barnes, and caron butler are marc gasol's responsiblity aka the clippers 5 most productive players in the game

Thread
04-22-2013, 05:24 PM
I told you none of the Spurs were going to win anything. When are you guys going to start heeding my advice.

Jesus Christ. You motherfuckers can get into this shit. For hours. Peanut for a brain assholes.

DMC
04-22-2013, 05:28 PM
Jesus Christ. You motherfuckers can get into this shit. For hours. Peanut for a brain assholes.

And you're here through it all, hoping Double Up doesn't come clean.

chop/chop

Thread
04-22-2013, 05:30 PM
chop/chop

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

Bynumite
04-22-2013, 05:30 PM
Dwight will win his 4th next season... believe that.

spurraider21
04-22-2013, 05:32 PM
Jesus Christ. You motherfuckers can get into this shit. For hours. Peanut for a brain assholes.

says guy who spends more time here than anybody else :lol

awaiting parrot tactics

DMC
04-22-2013, 05:35 PM
I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

I saw you crawling. You'll not recover with me charlie.

DMC
04-22-2013, 05:36 PM
who

I'm a trend setter;

I set trends

spurraider21
04-22-2013, 05:37 PM
I'm a trend setter;

I set trends
:lmao

i wonder if you can catch cubby in an endless loop if you keep telling him that youre a trend setter and he replies the same way

Brunodf
04-22-2013, 05:38 PM
:lol box score junkie
:lol watches sportscenter, not the games
:lol clippers pick and roll bigs coulnd't do shit
:lol chris paul, eric bledsoe, chauncey billups, matt barnes, and caron butler are marc gasol's responsiblity aka the clippers 5 most productive players in the game
:huh So in the PnR the bigs always guard bigs, u are the one who didn't watched the game
:lolGasol 8 rebounds/game in 35 minutes. Can't lead his own team
:lolBest perimeter D in the NBA and somehow 37 yr old TD has better DRtg
:lolNot even the best defender on his own team
:lolArguing that Gasol deserved it more than TD/Noah/Hibbert/Paul George
:lol2 rebs in a playoff game

spurraider21
04-22-2013, 05:46 PM
:huh So in the PnR the bigs always guard bigs, u are the one who didn't watched the game
:lolGasol 8 rebounds/game in 35 minutes. Can't lead his own team
:lolBest perimeter D in the NBA and somehow 37 yr old TD has better DRtg
:lolNot even the best defender on his own team
:lolArguing that Gasol deserved it more than TD/Noah/Hibbert/Paul George
:lol2 rebs in a playoff game

never argued he deserved it more than Timmy. just said a case could be made, tbh. just saying its not some crazy outrage that Marc won. if you actually watched the clippers/grizz game, which I'm assuming you didn't, you'd have seen that the Clippers guards simply outclassed the Grizzlies guards, even the vaunted defensive duo of Conley and Allen. in the same thread upstairs I even said i'd have gone with Tim over Gasol. but anybody that has watched a grizzlies game would know Marc's defense is awesome, and he shines on the pick and roll. he plays it similar to how Timmy does, but with more mobility.

I'll repeat a point I made earlier, since it seemed to fly over your head. The grizzlies defensive rating difference with marc gasol on/off the court is -7.4 which is a huge number. to put it into context, the spurs difference with Timmy on/off the floor is about -4.5

SpursBills
04-22-2013, 05:55 PM
You should be happy; Kobe won the last game he played and them niggas made the playoffs.

:lol 10/10

benefactor
04-22-2013, 05:59 PM
Upstairs is already melting down about it.

:cry Duncan gets no respect :cry

Thread
04-22-2013, 06:15 PM
Upstairs is already melting down about it.

:cry Duncan gets no respect :cry

They'll never learn. I just don't get it.

benefactor
04-22-2013, 06:17 PM
Indeed. I just has an argument with a guy that still thinks the Spurs can beat Miami. True story.

Thread
04-22-2013, 06:21 PM
Indeed. I just has an argument with a guy that still thinks the Spurs can beat Miami. True story.

You can. You're fully capable. I bet your rank & file feel likewise. You have the patience & fortitude to suffer the gauntlet and not become distracted & lazy over nearly 2 months. Who else has that patience, fortitude and focus?

racm
04-22-2013, 07:02 PM
Congrats to the big Spaniard, tbh.

manufan10
04-22-2013, 07:09 PM
Meh, it would have been nice for Duncan to win the award, but I agree with Cully. All that really matters in the end is winning that last game. At least the Spurs have a better chance at that than the Grizzlies.

spurraider21
04-22-2013, 07:15 PM
Upstairs is already melting down about it.

:cry Duncan gets no respect :cry
you're so much better, and looking down on us because we wanted our franchise player to get recognized for his greatness

:worthy:

NRHector
04-22-2013, 07:24 PM
They'll never learn. I just don't get it.

Dumbass you don't get it either, this is your third troll n keep coming back to get shit on by everybody so please shut the fuck up

benefactor
04-22-2013, 07:35 PM
you're so much better, and looking down on us because we wanted our franchise player to get recognized for his greatness

:worthy:
:cry

sammy
04-22-2013, 07:40 PM
Fuck undeserving Fat Gasol! What a travesty!

racm
04-22-2013, 07:43 PM
Fuck undeserving Fat Gasol! What a travesty!

He's on the 2nd best defensive team. TD is on the 3rd.

Thread
04-22-2013, 08:41 PM
Meh, it would have been nice for Duncan to win the award, but I agree with Cully. All that really matters in the end is winning that last game. At least the Spurs have a better chance at that than the Grizzlies.

GD rights you agree with me. I've taught you fellows well. Before me you toted up your bows & ribbons. Thru my trials & tribs of Lakers lore you've grown to appreciate and examine your own heritage and what it means. I did that. I instilled that in you. I'm not looking for kudos. It was my privilege to mentor you fellows.

- Pappy

manufan10
04-22-2013, 08:49 PM
GD rights you agree with me. I've taught you fellows well. Before me you toted up your bows & ribbons. Thru my trials & tribs of Lakers lore you've grown to appreciate and examine your own heritage and what it means. I did that. I instilled that in you. I'm not looking for kudos. It was my privilege to mentor you fellows.

- Pappy

"You're my boy, Blue! You're my boy."

- Frank - "Old School"

Latarian Milton
04-22-2013, 08:51 PM
shit looks just like a razzie award for him at this point of time when he had just got shat on by a group of monkeys the other night.

Proxy
04-22-2013, 09:12 PM
Good for him. Dude is a class act.

whitemamba
04-22-2013, 09:16 PM
congrats to big Marc, well deserved.

Venti Quattro
04-22-2013, 09:17 PM
Gastrong, people.

baseline bum
04-22-2013, 09:19 PM
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Thread
04-22-2013, 09:19 PM
Good for him. Dude is a class act.

Yep, a genuine sweetheart.

baseline bum
04-22-2013, 09:21 PM
Yep, a genuine sweetheart.

You say that. I'm going with this

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Thread
04-22-2013, 09:23 PM
You say that. I'm going with this

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

Proxy
04-22-2013, 09:26 PM
esvástica

racm
04-22-2013, 09:29 PM
I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

but are you controlled?

TDMVPDPOY
04-22-2013, 09:51 PM
duncan on a shit year posts those type of numbers and still cant win

Thread
04-22-2013, 09:52 PM
duncan on a shit year posts those type of numbers and still cant win

Just don't beat yer wife over the snub. Savvy?

Splits
04-22-2013, 10:02 PM
Gasol rebound! Half way to his total last game, though Griff has 11 in 8 minutes

TDMVPDPOY
04-22-2013, 10:04 PM
this season duncans defensive stats is as good as prime duncan...yet still cant even win one dpoy lmao

spurraider21
04-22-2013, 10:04 PM
I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.
Tbh it's only prepubescent girls that talk about trendiness. Then again I'm guessing that's your thing

TDMVPDPOY
04-22-2013, 10:13 PM
does anyone have stats the grizz pace play at, opp fg% compared this season to previous season if they actually improved on defense?

irishock
04-22-2013, 10:26 PM
That final glimpse of hope before the final nazi sign is epic tbh

Thread
04-22-2013, 11:02 PM
Tbh it's only prepubescent girls that talk about trendiness. Then again I'm guessing that's your thing

There's a picture of Katie-girl & I in the foyer. The families had been at Euclid Beach Park on a late Summer day. We're shoulder-to-shoulder, fast asleep on her mother's quilt. My pa snapped the picture as the sun began to fail the sky. We're both topless & in white underwear. She is 4. I am 6.

LarryDavid
04-22-2013, 11:57 PM
does anyone have stats the grizz pace play at, opp fg% compared this season to previous season if they actually improved on defense?

Try basketball-reference.com

HarlemHeat37
04-23-2013, 01:36 AM
Marc Gasol has become the most overrated player in the NBA, tbh..

Average post game, not a great rebounder, he doesn't stand out as a player, tbh, yet he might make an All-NBA 1st:lol..

Ashy Larry
04-23-2013, 01:48 AM
cant give it to Dwight when the team is shit defensively

chapnis
04-23-2013, 01:49 AM
Marc Gasol has become the most overrated player in the NBA, tbh..

Average post game, not a great rebounder, he doesn't stand out as a player, tbh, yet he might make an All-NBA 1st:lol..
Advanced stats MVP.

spurraider21
04-23-2013, 02:57 AM
Marc Gasol has become the most overrated player in the NBA, tbh..

Average post game, not a great rebounder, he doesn't stand out as a player, tbh, yet he might make an All-NBA 1st:lol..
his lack of scoring drives me nuts when i watch the Grizz play. its like he's not even looking for a shot

FkLA
04-23-2013, 03:15 AM
you're so much better, and looking down on us because we wanted our franchise player to get recognized for his greatness

:worthy:

Dont even waste your time bro, hes a perfect example of the dunning-kruger effect tbh. Hes so stupid he has this false sense of superiority. He once made a thread ostracizing all the 'gnsf' because in his mind he thought all the greys believed Amused making game threads injured spurs players. Even though numerous people were trying to explain to him that people were just having fun with it/being ridiculously superstitious intentionally. He stood by his thread and called everyone stupid. True story. Hes the dumbest guy on ST by far tbh. :lol

FkLA
04-23-2013, 03:20 AM
Is Gasol the least dominant DPOY ever? Its not all about stats but 1.7 bpg and 8 rpg is pretty pathetic for getting this type of honor. Hes a solid defender but there are atleast a 3-4 more deserving big men, including a 37 year old Timmy.

Brunodf
04-23-2013, 03:23 AM
Is Gasol the least dominant DPOY ever? Its not all about stats but 1.7 bpg and 8 rpg is pretty pathetic for getting this type of honor. Hes a solid defender but there are atleast a 3-4 more deserving big man, including a 37 year old Timmy.
:cryBut but his PnR D is great

spurraider21
04-23-2013, 03:35 AM
:cryBut but his PnR D is great

get off my dick, yo

god forbid i called another big besides Tim an elite defender

FkLA
04-23-2013, 03:40 AM
spurraider, can you provide the link for the pick and roll defense? Want to see how Gasol stacks up against other top defensive big men tbh.

spurraider21
04-23-2013, 04:06 AM
spurraider, can you provide the link for the pick and roll defense? Want to see how Gasol stacks up against other top defensive big men tbh.
no dice. i had actually been looking for a metric. i was moreso going with what i've seen watching games. his ability in that area reflects Parker's struggles against Memphis, imo. watching the games, you can see him get out there and hedge pretty high. now, its nowhere near prime rasheed or KG as far as how high up he gets, but its much more than, say, Timmy, who sort of just sags off and hopes the guard takes a mid range jumper.

while searching for a stat or metric, i found that just about every article that popped up on a simple google search praised Gasol's pick and roll defense, whatever thats worth. seeing how Memphis' defensive rating plummets with Marc out even more than the Spurs D falls with Timmy out tells me Marc is a better defender than some guys, like our friend brunodf, give him credit for. whats funny is this entire conversation started with my saying Timmy should have been DPOY, but Gasol is a deserving candidate in his own right, and brunodf has been on my nuts since i dared to call another big a good defender. spurfan raves about tim's awareness, iq, positioning etc, even though there's no metric for that.

BUMP
04-23-2013, 09:19 AM
You should be happy; Kobe won the last game he played and them niggas made the playoffs.

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namlook
04-24-2013, 02:01 AM
Tony Allen > Gasol on his own team