Duncan in elimination games in the 05 & 07 Playoffs

[Deuce Bigalow]

Lets take a look at elimination games in the 05 and 07 playoffs - the years the Spurs won rings. By elimination, this means the last game of the series in which a team got eliminated.

2007 NBA Finals - Game 4

Duncan: 12-14-3 on 4-15 FG, 4-10 FT
FMVParker: 24-7-1 on 10-14 FG, 2-5 FT
Ginobili: 27-5-3 on 8-19 FG, 8-11 FT

2007 NBA WCF - Game 5

Duncan: 21-7-3 on 7-14 FG
Parker: 21-5-5 on 7-13 FG

2007 NBA WCSF - Game 6

Duncan: 24-13-1 9blk on 11-19 FG
Ginobili: 33-11-6 4stl on 11-17 FG
Parker: 30-2-6 on 11-27 FG

2007 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
Duncan: 23-12-5 on 10-19 FG
Finley: 26-4-1 on 9-14 FG, 8-9 3PT

Duncan was carried offensively. He was never the leading scorer in any of the elimination games during the 2007 playoffs. This is supposed to be one of his "the man" rings that Spurfan uses to put over Kobe, with him averaging 22-12-3 for the 07 playoffs - basically a Pau Gasol type line with an extra shot or two. But when Kobe averages 29-7-6 and 27-6-5 in the 01 and 02 playoffs, that is not as good as Duncan's 07 ring because he wasn't the man? Stupidity, but that discussion is for another thread. Duncan did not carry the team but I don't blame him, it's a tough thing to do. Parker and Manu had their moments in th elimination games. Duncan just sat back in the Finals in 07 and shot bricks but luckily Parker had it going not just in the elimination game, but all series long.

2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG


2005 NBA WCF - Game 5
Duncan: 31-15-4 on 14-24 FG
Ginobili: 19-8-6 on 6-15 FG

2005 NBA WCSF - Game 6
Duncan: 26-9-5 on 6-21 FG, 14-17 FT (Not going to cry about FTA like the other faggot did)
Parker: 14-2-3 on 6-13 FG
Ginobili: 13-6-7 on 3-6 FG

2005 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
Duncan: 18-11-5 on 8-15 FG
Parker: 21-3-7 on 9-17 FG
Ginobili: 18-9-4 on 4-9 FG

Finally! He had one game where he was clearly the best in an elimination game during the 2005 Playoffs. Funny how in Game 7 in the Finals he shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe did in his game 7. How can a post player shoot 10-27? 6-21 FG in another one, 6-21? Duncan did not fully carry his team inthr elimination game for this year, except once. Ginobili and Parker remained efficient while Duncan was building a brickhouse at times. 24-12-3 playoff average. Great numbers, but not all-time great for sure. Keep in mind he shot 46 FG% as a Center/Power Forward. Weak "the man" ring I say.

[whitemamba]

:toast

Spur fans can't handle that tramp stamp lived in the shadow of kobe. Well done deuce

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I ain't fucking up my eyes reading that bullshit wall of text

[Thread]

I ain't fucking up my eyes reading that bullshit wall of text

Here's the short version:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old tramp stamp Duncan: 4

[dylankerouac]

I ain't fucking up my eyes reading that bullshit wall of text

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Here's the short version:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old tramp stamp Duncan: 4

take that team accomplishment I got the alpha male trophies

Duncan: 3

shaq: 3

kirby: 2

[lefty]

didnt read

[whitemamba]

Stop deflecting

[Brunodf]

Even if Duncan wasn't the best offensively in some games, he was the best(by far) defensively. And look at the FGA, never much more than his teammates, great leaders play like that.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Fixed. The preview didn't show up like that so I don't know wtf happened.

[Deuce Bigalow]

take that team accomplishment I got the alpha male trophies

Duncan: 3

shaq: 3

kirby: 2
There is no such thing.

Hey look I'm cool award

Me - 1

You - 0

....

[DAF86]

OP doesn't understand the meaning of "elimination game", tbh.

[Deuce Bigalow]

OP doesn't understand the meaning of "elimination game", tbh.
See the very first sentences. But if you want to go by elimination "do or die" games

2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG

[irishock]

2005 NBA WCSF - Game 6
Duncan: 26-9-5 on 6-21 FG, 14-17 FT (Not going to cry about FTA like the other faggot did)
Parker: 14-2-3 on 6-13 FG
Ginobili: 13-6-7 on 3-6 FG


Duncan nailed the buzzer beating series winner against us that series. I'll never forget.

[DAF86]

See the very first sentences. But if you want to go by elimination "do or die" games

2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG

Elimination games are the ones where your team is going to get eliminated, so yeah. Game 7 in the '05 finals is all you got.

[cesare borgia]

Duncan is 23-6 in series with HCA


To compare that to the alltime greats that are top 10-15 here are there records


Michael Jordan 24-0 in series with HCA
Kareem 34-5 in series with HCA
Russell 22-1 in series with HCA
Magic 29-3 in series with HCA
Bird 24-7 in series with HCA
Wilt 13-5 in series with HCA
Hakeem 9-2 in series with HCA
Shaq 24-5 in Series with HCA
Kobe 27-2 in series with HCA and 25-2 in series where he was a starter.





HCA(50+)/non-50
Jordan: 14-0 / 10-0
Russell: 10-0 / 12-1
Shaq: 11-2 / 12-2
Magic: 9-2 / 20-1
Duncan: 15-5 / 8-1
Jabbar: 11-3 / 23-2
Olajuwon: 4-0 / 5-2
Bird: 10-6 / 14-1
Wilt: 4-3 / 9-2
Kobe: 18-2 / 6-0
Here are the other power forwards all time as well




vs 50 win teams/non-50 win teams
Garnett: 3-2 (60%) /6-0 (100%)
Dirk: 6-2 (75%) /2-1 (67%)
Malone: 4-4 (50%) /8-2 (80%)
Barkley: 2-1 (67%) /8-1 (89%)
KG 9-2
Dirk 9-3
Malone 12-6
Barkley 10-2

:downspin:

[HI-FI]

is this Lkrfan's troll? this guy going up against ambchang is like Rob Schneider trying to outwit Louis CK.

[lefty]

OP forgot the fact that when Duncan wasnt scoring in those games, he got other players involved for clutch 3's

Also made big defensive plays

He also made his teammates better in big games


Basically all the things Kobe doesnt do in elimination games

[Latarian Milton]

el OP no entienda lo que significa el palabra "elimination" imho

[JingleJangleJingle]

Lets take a look at elimination games in the 05 and 07 playoffs - the years the Spurs won rings. By elimination, this means the last game of the series in which a team got eliminated.

2007 NBA Finals - Game 4

Duncan: 12-14-3 on 4-15 FG, 4-10 FT
FMVParker: 24-7-1 on 10-14 FG, 2-5 FT
Ginobili: 27-5-3 on 8-19 FG, 8-11 FT

2007 NBA WCF - Game 5

Duncan: 21-7-3 on 7-14 FG
Parker: 21-5-5 on 7-13 FG

2007 NBA WCSF - Game 6

Duncan: 24-13-1 9blk on 11-19 FG
Ginobili: 33-11-6 4stl on 11-17 FG
Parker: 30-2-6 on 11-27 FG

2007 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
Duncan: 23-12-5 on 10-19 FG
Finley: 26-4-1 on 9-14 FG, 8-9 3PT

Duncan was carried offensively. He was never the leading scorer in any of the elimination games during the 2007 playoffs. This is supposed to be one of his "the man" rings that Spurfan uses to put over Kobe, with him averaging 22-12-3 for the 07 playoffs - basically a Pau Gasol type line with an extra shot or two. But when Kobe averages 29-7-6 and 27-6-5 in the 01 and 02 playoffs, that is not as good as Duncan's 07 ring because he wasn't the man? Stupidity, but that discussion is for another thread. Duncan did not carry the team but I don't blame him, it's a tough thing to do. Parker and Manu had their moments in th elimination games. Duncan just sat back in the Finals in 07 and shot bricks but luckily Parker had it going not just in the elimination game, but all series long.

2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG


2005 NBA WCF - Game 5
Duncan: 31-15-4 on 14-24 FG
Ginobili: 19-8-6 on 6-15 FG

2005 NBA WCSF - Game 6
Duncan: 26-9-5 on 6-21 FG, 14-17 FT (Not going to cry about FTA like the other faggot did)
Parker: 14-2-3 on 6-13 FG
Ginobili: 13-6-7 on 3-6 FG

2005 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
Duncan: 18-11-5 on 8-15 FG
Parker: 21-3-7 on 9-17 FG
Ginobili: 18-9-4 on 4-9 FG

Finally! He had one game where he was clearly the best in an elimination game during the 2005 Playoffs. Funny how in Game 7 in the Finals he shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe did in his game 7. How can a post player shoot 10-27? 6-21 FG in another one, 6-21? Duncan did not fully carry his team inthr elimination game for this year, except once. Ginobili and Parker remained efficient while Duncan was building a brickhouse at times. 24-12-3 playoff average. Great numbers, but not all-time great for sure. Keep in mind he shot 46 FG% as a Center/Power Forward. Weak "the man" ring I say.

tl;dr


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4bftQ4xxFc

[Deuce Bigalow]

OP forgot the fact that when Duncan wasnt scoring in those games, he got other players involved for clutch 3's

Also made big defensive plays

He also made his teammates better in big games


Basically all the things Kobe doesnt do in elimination games
Oh yeah I forgot that argument by Spurfan. "He made his teammates better".

[Budkin]

Hey if this post will make you feel better about the Lakers losing then I say drop that deuce.

[TDfan2007]

Lets take a look at elimination games in the 05 and 07 playoffs - the years the Spurs won rings. By elimination, this means the last game of the series in which a team got eliminated.

2007 NBA Finals - Game 4

Duncan: 12-14-3 on 4-15 FG, 4-10 FT
FMVParker: 24-7-1 on 10-14 FG, 2-5 FT
Ginobili: 27-5-3 on 8-19 FG, 8-11 FT

2007 NBA WCF - Game 5

Duncan: 21-7-3 on 7-14 FG
Parker: 21-5-5 on 7-13 FG

2007 NBA WCSF - Game 6

Duncan: 24-13-1 9blk on 11-19 FG
Ginobili: 33-11-6 4stl on 11-17 FG
Parker: 30-2-6 on 11-27 FG

2007 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
Duncan: 23-12-5 on 10-19 FG
Finley: 26-4-1 on 9-14 FG, 8-9 3PT

Duncan was carried offensively. He was never the leading scorer in any of the elimination games during the 2007 playoffs. This is supposed to be one of his "the man" rings that Spurfan uses to put over Kobe, with him averaging 22-12-3 for the 07 playoffs - basically a Pau Gasol type line with an extra shot or two. But when Kobe averages 29-7-6 and 27-6-5 in the 01 and 02 playoffs, that is not as good as Duncan's 07 ring because he wasn't the man? Stupidity, but that discussion is for another thread. Duncan did not carry the team but I don't blame him, it's a tough thing to do. Parker and Manu had their moments in th elimination games. Duncan just sat back in the Finals in 07 and shot bricks but luckily Parker had it going not just in the elimination game, but all series long.

2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG


2005 NBA WCF - Game 5
Duncan: 31-15-4 on 14-24 FG
Ginobili: 19-8-6 on 6-15 FG

2005 NBA WCSF - Game 6
Duncan: 26-9-5 on 6-21 FG, 14-17 FT (Not going to cry about FTA like the other faggot did)
Parker: 14-2-3 on 6-13 FG
Ginobili: 13-6-7 on 3-6 FG

2005 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
Duncan: 18-11-5 on 8-15 FG
Parker: 21-3-7 on 9-17 FG
Ginobili: 18-9-4 on 4-9 FG

Finally! He had one game where he was clearly the best in an elimination game during the 2005 Playoffs. Funny how in Game 7 in the Finals he shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe did in his game 7. How can a post player shoot 10-27? 6-21 FG in another one, 6-21? Duncan did not fully carry his team inthr elimination game for this year, except once. Ginobili and Parker remained efficient while Duncan was building a brickhouse at times. 24-12-3 playoff average. Great numbers, but not all-time great for sure. Keep in mind he shot 46 FG% as a Center/Power Forward. Weak "the man" ring I say.

I actually read this, hoping that it wasn't a troll attempt/reaching response to the Kobe thread, but alas...

One thing you don't understand is that defenses were so keyed in on Duncan that Manu and Tony were allowed to go buck wild in the paint/get open shots. If you look at how Manu scored in the 4th quarter of game 7, you'll note that he clearly benefited from Timmy's presence (something that simple stats won't show).

Also, in 2005 Duncan was playing on two bad ankles during the WCF/Finals and one bad ankle in the first two rounds. In the WCF it didn't matter since Phx played absolutely no defense, but in the Finals Timmy faced arguably two of the best defensive bigs of their generation in the two Wallaces, and he held his own.

In 2007 Duncan had an off shooting game in game 4 against the Cavs, but he did everything else for the Spurs (a basketball game is positively affected by more than just scoring, something Kobe fans don't understand). In every other closeout game he was great. Not sure what you're getting at in this year.

Also funny how you leave out his 2003 and 1999 closeout performances.

[spurraider21]

Duncan led his team in scoring throughout the playoffs in every one of their championship runs. He also anchored an elite defense every single time (#1 or #2 in the league every time iirc). Tell me how opposing big men did in those elimination games. But of course if you mention anything besides points (and points only), you're a Kobe hater

[Thread]

Deuce has 'em snortin'.

tee, hee.

[cjw]

There is no such thing.

Hey look I'm cool award

Me - 1

You - 0

....


Smart one, he was quoting finals MVPs. But he's wrong, Duncan should only have 2.5 according to Bill Simmons and all the REAL NBA FANS because we all know nobody was in shape for the 50 game 1999 season and Ewing was hurt.

Don't forget Kirby will finish his career with no more league MVPs than AI and Derrick Rose and less than the other guy who hobbles around his backcourt.

[TDfan2007]

Oh yeah I forgot that argument by Spurfan. "He made his teammates better".

:lol ignoring leadership and the ability to make your teammates better when making player comparisons
:lol "advanced stats are stupid"
:lol "just pts/rbs/ast man. Those are REAL stats"

Your constant oversimplification of what it means to be impactful in basketball is astounding.

[Sean Cagney]

Deuce has 'em snortin'.

tee, hee.
6-24 in a huge game 7!!!!!!!!!!! Suns 05 game 7 teeeeeeee heeeeee. faggot.

[Thread]

teeeeeeee heeeeee

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[Sean Cagney]

I actually read this, hoping that it wasn't a troll attempt/reaching response to the Kobe thread, but alas...

One thing you don't understand is that defenses were so keyed in on Duncan that Manu and Tony were allowed to go buck wild in the paint/get open shots. If you look at how Manu scored in the 4th quarter of game 7, you'll note that he clearly benefited from Timmy's presence (something that simple stats won't show).

Also, in 2005 Duncan was playing on two bad ankles during the WCF/Finals and one bad ankle in the first two rounds. In the WCF it didn't matter since Phx played absolutely no defense, but in the Finals Timmy faced arguably two of the best defensive bigs of their generation in the two Wallaces, and he held his own.

In 2007 Duncan had an off shooting game in game 4 against the Cavs, but he did everything else for the Spurs (a basketball game is positively affected by more than just scoring, something Kobe fans don't understand). In every other closeout game he was great. Not sure what you're getting at in this year.

Also funny how you leave out his 2003 and 1999 closeout performances.
He will mention a few things that benefit his punk ass! But leave out other things! Selective shit I call that. I can bring up Kobe 6-24 in a huge game 7 and his Game 7 against the Suns where he did not show up at all, but thats another day. Most said what I would have said in here.

[HI-FI]

:lolKobe, even with the best frontcourt and largest salary, still can't surpass Jordan.
:lolUnable to get past the first round without an all-star big.

[Sean Cagney]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

Your little life consists of trends on a Spurs message board, I feel for you man!

[Thread]

I can bring up Kobe 6-24 in a huge game 7

Bring it up. That's how it got to:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Thread]

Your little life consists of trends on a Spurs message board, I feel for you man!

It's the NBA Forum, fuckface.

[ElNono]

I don't often post but when I do it's usually because I have something important to say. Now I don't want you to take this personal but your threads are terrible. Again I don't know who you are, what you do, etc but I certainly hope that your contribution to this website is not the culmination of your life.

[Sean Cagney]

It's the NBA Forum, fuckface.

It is, you go to both 24 hours a day, Spurstalk it is called though fuckface so.......... IT IS A SPURS FORUM and you could find a Lakersground fuckface and be at home! YOU ARE HERE THOUGH! Read the top of the page faggot, it's Spurstalk.com!

[spurraider21]

I don't often post but when I do it's usually because I have something important to say. Now I don't want you to take this personal but your threads are terrible. Again I don't know who you are, what you do, etc but I certainly hope that your contribution to this website is not the culmination of your life.
:lol contribution

[Thread]

It is, you go to both 24 hours a day, Spurstalk it is called though fuckface so.......... IT IS A SPURS FORUM and you could find a Lakersground fuckface and be at home! YOU ARE HERE THOUGH! Read the top of the page faggot, it's Spurstalk.com!

It's the NBA Forum, fuckface. +:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Sean Cagney]

Bring it up. That's how it got to:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4
Jordan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 YOUR GOD STUCK ON 5, a shame he got lead to titles by Shaq three times though as Jordan was the leader of his team and well Tim was too! Kobe could not win his last two without a big trade, Tim never had a big trade to make him relevant again after his team sucked for years, never missed the playoffs! Tobe needed big men and needed a trade to get him relevant again!

[Deuce Bigalow]

He will mention a few things that benefit his punk ass! But leave out other things! Selective shit I call that. I can bring up Kobe 6-24 in a huge game 7 and his Game 7 against the Suns where he did not show up at all, but thats another day. Most said what I would have said in here.
He did show up vs Suns. 21 points at halftime on 8-13 shooting. He gave up but his team didnt show up and the game was over in the 3rd quarter. I remember the 15 rebounds vs Boston too.

[Sean Cagney]

It's the NBA Forum, fuckface. +:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4
It is on Spurstalk.com you faggot, not NBA forum fucking idiot! NBA FORUM ON SPURSTALK.COM!!!!!!!!!! You know I am right you piece of shit loser fucking old fuck. You repetitive fucking clown.

[Thread]

Jordan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 YOUR GOD STUCK ON 5, a shame he got lead to titles by Shaq three times though as Jordan was the leader of his team and well Tim was too! Kobe could not win his last two without a big trade, Tim never had a big trade to make him relevant again after his team sucked for years, never missed the playoffs! Tobe needed big men and needed a trade to get him relevant again!

Fine. You take that one. I'm stickin' with this one:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Thread]

It is on Spurstalk.com you faggot, not NBA forum fucking idiot! NBA FORUM ON SPURSTALK.COM!!!!!!!!!! You know I am right you piece of shit loser fucking old fuck. You repetitive fucking clown.

It's the NBA Forum, fuckface.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:lol Sean Cagney

[Sean Cagney]

It's the NBA Forum, fuckface.
Spurstalk.com got you here faggot, there is no NBA FORUM that lead you here you fucking idiot. Spurstalk.com has fucking NFL forum too, you got here from SPURSTALK you dickhead stop it.
He did show up vs Suns. 21 points at halftime on 8-13 shooting. He gave up but his team didnt show up and the game was over in the 3rd quarter. I remember the 15 rebounds vs Boston too.

Pshhhhhhhhhh second half he mailed it in! Duncan had numbers in the so called games he mentions too! OP showed some great stats too from Tim in closeout games! What is that clowns point? NONE.

[HI-FI]

Smart one, he was quoting finals MVPs. But he's wrong, Duncan should only have 2.5 according to Bill Simmons and all the REAL NBA FANS because we all know nobody was in shape for the 50 game 1999 season and Ewing was hurt.

Don't forget Kirby will finish his career with no more league MVPs than AI and Derrick Rose and less than the other guy who hobbles around his backcourt.
Nash deserved his 2 MVPs more than Kobe deserved his 1. Kobe basically earned the Lifetime Achievement Award in Advertising. He helped recoup his costs to the marketers after raping a bitch, so he was rewarded.

Besides, Nash was able to get to the WCF without an All Star Big. Kobe couldn't even get past the first before the league had to fix that shit quick.

tee, hee.

[Thread]

Spurstalk.com got you here faggot, there is no NBA FORUM that lead you here you fucking idiot. Spurstalk.com has fucking NFL forum too, you got here from SPURSTALK you dickhead stop it.

It's the NBA Forum, fuckface.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I don't often post but when I do it's usually because I have something important to say. Now I don't want you to take this personal but your threads are terrible. Again I don't know who you are, what you do, etc but I certainly hope that your contribution to this website is not the culmination of your life.
You're probably the worst poster here though.

[Thread]

Nash deserved his 2 MVPs more than Kobe deserved his 1. Kobe basically earned the Lifetime Achievement Award in Advertising. He helped recoup his costs to the marketers after raping a bitch, so he was rewarded.

Besides, Nash was able to get to the WCF without an All Star Big. Kobe couldn't even get past the first before the league had to fix that shit quick.

tee, hee.

I don't do MVP's. I do this:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Sean Cagney]

It's the NBA Forum, fuckface.

Look at this you repetitive fucking OCD DICKHEAD............. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/ YES SPURSTALK. NOT LAKERS FUCKING TALK FUCKER........ SPURSTALK! FORUMS! Where do you not get it you fucking old dickhead?

[lefty]

Oh yeah I forgot that argument by Spurfan. "He made his teammates better".
I cant blame you

You are not familiar with that concept since your team has Kobe

[Thread]

Look at this you repetitive fucking OCD DICKHEAD............. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/ YES SPURSTALK. NOT LAKERS FUCKING TALK FUCKER........ SPURSTALK! FORUMS! Where do you not get it you fucking old dickhead?

Nonetheless, it's the NBA Forum, fuckface.

[Fergie The Florists]

http://myspacedesign.us/images/wallpaper-nwo-i6.jpg

[Sean Cagney]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/
Nonetheless, it's the NBA Forum, fuckface.http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/:rollin

[Thread]

^I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[HI-FI]

I don't do MVP's. I do this:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4
that's fine, you can keep that, I do this::
http://imageshack.us/a/img191/4189/threadc.jpg

[Deuce Bigalow]

Nash deserved his 2 MVPs more than Kobe deserved his 1. Kobe basically earned the Lifetime Achievement Award in Advertising. He helped recoup his costs to the marketers after raping a bitch, so he was rewarded.

Besides, Nash was able to get to the WCF without an All Star Big. Kobe couldn't even get past the first before the league had to fix that shit quick.

tee, hee.
30-6-6 46FG/57TS/50eFG in the 08-10 Playoffs, Back to back Finals MVPs and Champion speaks for itself.

[Sean Cagney]

Spurstalk.com sent you here! NOT LAKERSGROUND!!!!!! CHUMP! This is a Spurs board with a subforum for some good fans and some retard fans like you!

[Deuce Bigalow]

I cant blame you

You are not familiar with that concept since your team has Kobe
Kobe, the guy with more rings than your franchise? That Kobe?

[HI-FI]

30-6-6 46FG/57TS/50eFG in the 08-10 Playoffs, Back to back Finals MVPs and Champion speaks for itself.

:cry"David, this is Mitch. please send us any all star big you can find, Kobe is shitting the bed and I got advertisers breathing down my neck. What am I suppose to do, Kobe only knows how to play for himself."

[DAF86]

Look at this you repetitive fucking OCD DICKHEAD............. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/ YES SPURSTALK. NOT LAKERS FUCKING TALK FUCKER........ SPURSTALK! FORUMS! Where do you not get it you fucking old dickhead?

Breathe due, breathe.

[Fergie The Florists]

http://myspacedesign.us/images/wallpaper-nwo-i6.jpg

[Deuce Bigalow]

:cry"David, this is Mitch. please send us any all star big you can find, Kobe is shitting the bed and I got advertisers breathing down my neck. What am I suppose to do, Kobe only knows how to play for himself."
Oh no! Call the police. His teammate is Pau Gasol, not an alltime great. Although he is a great player btw, or was I should say.

[Splits]

I barely knew Christine when she turned up at my door at around eight o'clock on the night of Halloween. We'd met for the first and only time three months earlier when my two roommates and I signed the lease on our apartment: Christine's aunt owned the place we were moving into, and she happened to be up from Delaware visiting at the time. But we'd only spent about five minutes together that day and we hadn't spoken much, and I hadn't thought of her since.


Yet here she was standing outside my door with a friend. And both of them were pretty tipsy.


She asked if she and her friend could come inside our apartment to change into their costumes. She couldn't change at her aunt's place, she said, because she was sleeping and she didn't want to wake her up. Would we mind if she used our bathroom instead?


It was a pretty strange request. Sure, weird stuff happens on Halloween, but I barely knew her, and it isn't every day that someone shows up at your front door and asks to change into their ladybug costume. But I told her it was fine and she was welcome to use our place to get ready.


It didn't take long before the two women—who'd clearly been drinking—were sitting on my couch, beers in hand, trying to convince my roommate and me to join them for a night on the town. Christine was in the holiday spirit dressed in her ladybug outfit. Her friend, who had a female pirate costume on, was much more quiet and reserved. She barely spoke all night.


It was a Wednesday evening, and my roommate and I hadn't been planning to go out. We both had to get up pretty early the next morning for work. But Christine was insistent that we join them, and she wasn't taking no for an answer. "Come on, guys! Let's go! Just throw something on!" she said.


The costume that I wore for the Halloween a year before—a boy scout's uniform that belonged to a friend—was still sitting in my closet. So that made it easy. But my roommate had no idea what to put on.


Christine immediately came up with an idea. She pointed to a cardboard box in the kitchen—the kind that 12-packs of Coca-Cola come in—and told him to cut a hole in the middle and put it on top of his head. We weren't sure what she was suggesting.


"You can go as a cokehead!" she said, bursting into laughter.


With our costume situation sorted out, we headed to South Street, where lots of bars in Philadelphia are located. Half an hour later, the four of us were seated at a table and knocking back beers.


It really didn't take very long for Christine to make her move. She'd grabbed my hand on the way from the apartment to South Street, so I can't say I was totally surprised when she leaned in to kiss me soon after we arrived at the bar.


I could tell when we first met that Christine was older than me. I was 25, and although I never asked her age, I'd have guessed she was in her early 30s. It was only recently that I found out her real age and learned she was in her late 30s when we hooked up. There's a 14-year gap between us, but she looks good for her age. I don't think I'd heard the word "cougar" yet at that point, but that's probably what I'd call her.


Aggressive is another word I'd use to describe her. At the bar, she confessed to me that her aunt really hadn't been sleeping. She hadn't even gone to her apartment to check, she said. She had remembered me from our five-minute meeting the previous summer, and used the story about her aunt as an excuse to knock on my door. She'd set her sights on me from the beginning.


Christine was pretty intense, and she was pretty outspoken that night, but we didn't talk politics much. Her aunt had told me that Christine ran for Senate a year earlier and had lost, so I knew a bit about her background. But the most political she got that night was when she said she attended lots of events in Washington that attracted congressmen and senators. "It would be nice to have a good-looking young man to attend those with me," she added.


We'd probably knocked back five Heinekens when Christine leaned over and whispered in my ear that she wanted to go back to my place. Before we could go, though, she told me to ask her friend if she'd mind if I drove Christine home later that evening. That was odd. I guess Christine didn't want to come across as a slut in her friend's eyes for going home with me, so she wanted me to bring it up her friend first.


I did what I was told and asked her friend if she had any objection to me hanging out with Christine a little longer provided I took her home later on in the evening. She didn't, and a few minutes after that, we were all headed back to my apartment. Christine's friend got in her car and went home. My roommate went to his bedroom and went to sleep. And Christine and I got cozy on the couch and popped open another beer.


Things got physical on the couch pretty quickly. It wasn't long before we'd moved from the living room to my bed.


I won't get into the nitty gritty details of what happened between the sheets that evening. But I will say that it wasn't half as exciting as I'd been hoping it would be. Christine was a decent kisser, but as soon as soon as her clothes came off and she was naked in my bed, Christine informed me that she was a virgin.


"You've got to be kidding," I said. She didn't explain at the time that she was a "born-again virgin." She made it seem like she'd never had sex in her life, which seemed pretty improbable for a woman her age. And she made it clear that she was planning on staying a virgin that night. But there were signs that she wasn't very experienced sexually. When her underwear came off, I immediately noticed that the waxing trend had completely passed her by.


Obviously, that was a big turnoff, and I quickly lost interest. I said goodnight, rolled over, and went to sleep. It was almost four o'clock in the morning. I had to get up at 6:30 to go to work.


Christine wasn't in the best of shape when my alarm clock went off three hours later. I was hungover and exhausted and we'd both had about the same amount to drink, so I'm guessing she was feeling even worse. I got up and started to get dressed and told Christine she'd need to get up, too. But she clearly didn't want to budge, and even after I'd reminded her a few times, she was still under the covers. Did she think I was going to leave for work and let her sleep in my bed?


When she finally did get up and dressed and we got in the car, Christine couldn't remember exactly where her friend lived. We circled around for about 20 minutes before we found it, and I dropped her off in the parking lot next to her car, as she asked me to. We said goodbye and exchanged phone numbers and email addresses. But there wasn't a whole lot of back and forth. I didn't even try to give her a kiss goodbye.


I wasn't planning on contacting Christine after our night together. Things hadn't gone so great—especially the part that took place in my bedroom—and I didn't see any reason to try and see her again. But two or three days later, she emailed me to ask me if I wanted to hang out again. I made an excuse. But she didn't take a hint and emailed or called a few more times over the next couple of weeks before I was forced to make it clear to her that I wasn't interested.


Things worked out for the best, though. A few weeks later, Christine started dating my roommate. They went out for over a year, and it was a little awkward the first few times Christine came over to visit him at our apartment and we all had to make conversation in the living room. But that passed pretty quickly. And in case you're wondering, he never had sex with her either, as far as I know.


When I heard several months ago that Christine had decided to run again, I didn't take it very seriously. And I never expected in a million years that she'd end up winning the primary. But she did, and the morning after the election, I sat in disbelief as I watched the news on TV. For a second, I thought I might be hearing things and I went over to my computer and pulled up CNN.com to check if it was true. It was.


God, I hope the same thing doesn't happen next week.

[Latarian Milton]

tbh not everyone has such luck to play his entire career on winning teams. suns were underachievers presiding nash's arrival but they got some wonderful young talents who had the potential to do wonders. nash deserves credit for catalyzing the chemical reactions in phoenix but what he did over there was nothing similar to carrying a band of scrubs into the finals, like dirk did in dallas and bron in cleveland imho.

[Fergie The Florists]

The LETHAL POISON...........................

[Deuce Bigalow]

:lolKobe, even with the best frontcourt and largest salary, still can't surpass Jordan.
:lolUnable to get past the first round without an all-star big.
Jordan couldnt get past the first round without Pip. Such a great argument.

[Fergie The Florists]

http://myspacedesign.us/images/wallpaper-nwo-i6.jpg

[Sean Cagney]

Breathe due, breathe.

LOL that was just for fun! I was having fun doing that! He is too easy to get on in here! Funny and repetitive, no love lost there! It's all good.
Jordan couldnt get past the first round without Pip. Such a great argument.

I think the point would be, players usually need help to get to the finals and win! I mean we can all agree on that there! You are down one game or a series and one guy or two steps up on the team to help out! This is reality! You can be the MVP and the best on the team, but you need some good help to win it all, proven again and again.

Except TIM in 03 though you know, he had a bunch of youngins and older guys and lead them to the title! YES HE DID :wow:rollin:rollin:lol

[Fergie The Florists]

New World Order

[Fergie The Florists]

http://myspacedesign.us/images/wallpaper-nwo-i6.jpg

[Deuce Bigalow]

LOL that was just for fun! I was having fun doing that! He is too easy to get on in here! Funny and repetitive, no love lost there! It's all good.

I think the point would be, players usually need help to get to the finals and win! I mean we can all agree on that there! You are down one game or a series and one guy or two steps up on the team to help out! This is reality! You can be the MVP and the best on the team, but you need some good help to win it all, proven again and again.

Except TIM in 03 though you know, he had a bunch of youngins and older guys and lead them to the title! YES HE DID :wow:rollin:rollin:lol
Yes this is true, but not everybody thinks this way. They use this sound logic on Duncan, but with Kobe?

[Clipper Nation]

:cry"David, this is Mitch. please send us any all star big you can find, Kobe is shitting the bed and I got advertisers breathing down my neck. What am I suppose to do, Kobe only knows how to play for himself."

:rollin

[HI-FI]

Jordan couldnt get past the first round without Pip. Such a great argument.

so you're comparing a rookie Pippen to an all star in Pau Gasol, who immediately catapulted your team to 3 Finals appearances. i'm willing to bet, without looking at your join date, that you only joined after Gasol joined the team. so subconsciously, you basically agree with me that Gasol was the catalyst.

[whitemamba]

so you're comparing a rookie Pippen to an all star in Pau Gasol, who immediately catapulted your team to 3 Finals appearances. i'm willing to bet, without looking at your join date, that you only joined after Gasol joined the team. so subconsciously, you basically agree with me that Gasol was the catalyst.

im sorry but what the fuck does the join date have anything to do with anything...thats basically a stupid argument right there.

[Sean Cagney]

Yes this is true, but not everybody thinks this way. They use this sound logic on Duncan, but with Kobe?

Most of the time I just mess around in here, Duncan and Kobe best players of our generation IMO, sides the hate and competition in here they are great! They are legends.

[Fergie The Florists]

http://myspacedesign.us/images/wallpaper-nwo-i6.jpg

[racm]

Most of the time I just mess around in here, Duncan and Kobe best players of our generation IMO, sides the hate and competition in here they are great! They are legends.

Don't even bother man, half the Lakerfans here are trolls (and one is a parrot).

[HI-FI]

im sorry but what the fuck does the join date have anything to do with anything...thats basically a stupid argument right there.
because you Kobe fans only joined the site after you got Gasol. nothing wrong with that, just funny you guys shit on him so much. you could have easily joined the site before,when it was truly Kobe's team, and headed nowhere fast. instead you only felt confident to join after they got Gasol.

[Deuce Bigalow]

so you're comparing a rookie Pippen to an all star in Pau Gasol, who immediately catapulted your team to 3 Finals appearances. i'm willing to bet, without looking at your join date, that you only joined after Gasol joined the team. so subconsciously, you basically agree with me that Gasol was the catalyst.

How many idiots are on this board that are this delusional? Pau was not the best player on the team. Not even close. A fucking baby has more basic basketball knowledge than you and a group on this board. Using the couldn't get out of blank during this certain time is a horrible argument.

[Fergie The Florists]

http://myspacedesign.us/images/wallpaper-nwo-i6.jpg

[racm]

How many idiots are on this board that are this delusional? Pau was not the best player on the team. Not even close. A fucking baby has more basic basketball knowledge than you and a group on this board. Using the couldn't get out of blank during this certain time is a horrible argument.

Kirby was 4-8 without Daddy or Pau, tbh...

[ElNono]

You're probably the worst poster here though.

Remember last saturday when I took two seconds to tell you what a bitchmade loser you are and then told you to enjoy the rest of your lonely ass weekend with your mav fag internet buddies? Well yeah, after that, I went and ate a $200 meal and fucked a girl who looks like Kathryn Heigl. You sat around talking about how hard you 'trolled' me.

And then when I saw you were still talking shit about it the next day in the Pats/Miami Game Thread that I didn't even post in, you know what I did? Smiled momentarily.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe wins MVP in 08, Finals MVP in 09 and 10. Makes All-NBA First team every year since trade, is named the fucking player of the decade in 09-10, yet Pau was the true leader and best player somehow.

[whitemamba]

because you Kobe fans only joined the site after you got Gasol. nothing wrong with that, just funny you guys shit on him so much. you could have easily joined the site before,when it was truly Kobe's team, and headed nowhere fast. instead you only felt confident to join after they got Gasol.

Kobe Fans :lol of course we are fans of the face of the franchise.. a proven winner whether you choose to admit it or not, regardless its about the name on the front not the back, and yeah no shit we get on pau we know what kind of player he can be, probably the most versatile big man of this generation, when he puts up 12 points 5 boards and shoots 45% hes going to get shit on a little, come playoff time you guys are on that french bitches nuts like a newborn glued to a tit.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kirby was 4-8 without Daddy or Pau, tbh...
Why do you act like Pau is Shaq? "Without Pau" as if he's some kind of legend.

Without "Daddy"? 2
Without Pau? 3

[ElNono]

Kobe wins MVP in 08, Finals MVP in 09 and 10. Makes All-NBA First team every year since trade, is named the fucking player of the decade in 09-10, yet Pau was the true leader and best player somehow.

Kobe misses the playoffs in 05, gets trounced back to back in the first round in 06 and 07. Bitches and moan that he wants to get traded if Mitch doesn't get him help.

Gasol shows up and they're contenders again. True story.

[Sean Cagney]

Don't even bother man, half the Lakerfans here are trolls (and one is a parrot).

5 to 4 teeeeee heeeeeeeee, yeah he is beyond stupid by now and repetitive. Some good fans in here though on both sides! I appreciate that there, otherwise the trolls are idiots.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe misses the playoffs in 05, gets trounced back to back in the first round in 06 and 07. Bitches and moan that he wants to get traded if Mitch doesn't get him help.

Gasol shows up and they're contenders again. True story.
Wow. You are fucking brilliant man. So you're saying that when his team was actually good, they were winning games? And when the team sucked they didn't? I'm taking notes.

[ElNono]

$100 million roster overhaul, and team doesn't make the playoffs until the last game of the season.

After losing to the Wizards at home two weeks before season's end, in what looked like a fatal blow, the team has a stroke of luck and Kobe tears his Achilles. From there on out, they win out their games behind their leader Wilt Gasol, who miraculously takes them to the playoffs. True story.

[ElNono]

Wow. You are fucking brilliant man. So you're saying that when his team was actually good, they were winning games? And when the team sucked they didn't? I'm taking notes.

Wow, so you're saying Kobe as the lead man is a fucking pussy and fucking blows? That's exactly what we've been telling you. Pay attention.

[HI-FI]

Wow. You are fucking brilliant man. So you're saying that when his team was actually good, they were winning games? And when the team sucked they didn't? I'm taking notes.

it's just Kirby needs superstar bigs to mask his ballhogging problems. can you imagine prime Nash on those Laker teams with prime Shaq and Gasol? Nash got to the WCF without Amare, imagine much better bigs. you'd have championships, great team morale, no women raped.

[HI-FI]

$100 million roster overhaul, and team doesn't make the playoffs until the last game of the season.

After losing to the Wizards at home two weeks before season's end, in what looked like a fatal blow, the team has a stroke of luck and Kobe tears his Achilles. From there on out, they win out their games behind their leader Wilt Gasol, who miraculously takes them to the playoffs. True story.
they should retire rapist's Achilles tendon and hang it from the rafters tbh.

[100%duncan]

Cherry picking :lol Duncan is and was the man in all of his years in SA except the 07 playoffs. And in all of those years Spurs never failed to reach the playoffs unlike your boy KoMe. :lmao

TD: 3
Shaq: 3
Pau: 2
Dirk: 1
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao
Kome: 0

[FkLA]

21 pts, 20 reb, 10 asst, 8 blk

Get back to me when Kome has a closeout game anywhere close to that tbh.

[whitemamba]

21 pts, 20 reb, 10 asst, 8 blk

Get back to me when Kome has a closeout game anywhere close to that tbh.

get back to me when shitbag gets the 5th and well talk.

[Russo21]

Damn the 05 Finals series was brutal!

By the way. Can you remind me how the Lakers fared against the Pistons in the finals the year before. Oh that's right i remember now, nevermind.

[Johnny RIngo]

get back to me when shitbag gets the 5th and well talk.

Kobe's still working on ring #3. Sidekick rings don't count, brah.

[100%duncan]

Freakin Kome fans getting shitted on. par for the course.

[ambchang]

Lol. Looking at 2 seasons verses 9 straight seasons. What a horrible dope. Let me ask you this. What was Duncan's record in elimination games since he became the spurs leader in 2000? And why did you skip 2006?

If you don't have a case, then don't open a thread about it. This thread only strengthens mine.

[Trainwreck2100]

All i could get from this was some dumbass doesn't know what an elimination game is.

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All i could get from this was some dumbass doesn't know what an elimination game is.


Lol. Looking at 2 seasons verses 9 straight seasons. What a horrible dope. Let me ask you this. What was Duncan's record in elimination games since he became the spurs leader in 2000? And why did you skip 2006?

If you don't have a case, then don't open a thread about it. This thread only strengthens mine.


Freakin Kome fans getting shitted on. par for the course.


Kobe's still working on ring #3. Sidekick rings don't count, brah.


Damn the 05 Finals series was brutal!

By the way. Can you remind me how the Lakers fared against the Pistons in the finals the year before. Oh that's right i remember now, nevermind.


21 pts, 20 reb, 10 asst, 8 blk

Get back to me when Kome has a closeout game anywhere close to that tbh.


Cherry picking :lol Duncan is and was the man in all of his years in SA except the 07 playoffs. And in all of those years Spurs never failed to reach the playoffs unlike your boy KoMe. :lmao

TD: 3
Shaq: 3
Pau: 2
Dirk: 1
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao
Kome: 0


they should retire rapist's Achilles tendon and hang it from the rafters tbh.


it's just Kirby needs superstar bigs to mask his ballhogging problems. can you imagine prime Nash on those Laker teams with prime Shaq and Gasol? Nash got to the WCF without Amare, imagine much better bigs. you'd have championships, great team morale, no women raped.


Wow, so you're saying Kobe as the lead man is a fucking pussy and fucking blows? That's exactly what we've been telling you. Pay attention.

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Trainwreck2100]

squawk squawk

[Trainwreck2100]

:cry Then shut up with the officiating rant. I'm sick of this shit.:cry

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^Just checkin' assholes.

Mornin'.

[100%duncan]

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Boiled down more:::


TD: 3
Shaq: 3
Pau: 2
Dirk: 1
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao


Kome: 0

[Thread]

Spurstalk.com sent you here! NOT LAKERSGROUND!!!!!! CHUMP! This is a Spurs board with a subforum for some good fans and some retard fans like you!

It's the NBA Forum, fuckface.

[Thread]

Boiled down more:::


TD: 3
Shaq: 3
Pau: 2
Dirk: 1
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao


Kome: 0

Fine. You take that one. I'm stickin' with this one:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[100%duncan]

Fine. You take that one. I'm stickin' with this one:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Fine. You take that one. I'm stickin' with this one:::

TD: 3
Shaq: 3
Pau: 2
Dirk: 1
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao






Kome: 0

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^
Fine. You take that one. I'm stickin' with this one:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[100%duncan]

Quote me tbh. Parrot tired of parroting already? :lmao

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Quote me tbh. Parrot tired of parroting already? :lmao

lmvictoriousao!!!

[Leetonidas]

Kobetards looking at nothing but PPG, also ignoring he was going up against the best defensive frontline of all-time probably (who he managed to outrebound by himself), nothing to see here. Not surprised Kobefan forgets their is another side of the court seeing as how their idol never plays on it

lol 6-24

[ambchang]

So instead of cherry-picking like butthurt Lakerfans like to do, I have decided to take all the elimination games of Duncan since he assumed total leadership of the team around 2000 or so. You can count 1999, but Robinson was still going strong then, and there were no elimination in 1999 anyways as the Spurs won the championship, so ….

Side note, what was DB thinking anyways? That it was hard to find those game stats? I could find the Kobe ones, and I can just as easily find the Duncan ones. I really don’t know what s/he was thinking. Really.

2000:
Duncan injured, did not participate in the playoffs.

2001:
Game 4 vs. Lakers. A painful painful sweep by the Lakers. Duncan shot 5 for 10 from the field, 5 for 9 from FTs, finishing with only 15 points. Nobody else scored more than 15, and the only person who shot better than Duncan was AJ (6 for 11), and Ferry (1 for 1). Spurs lost.

2002:
Game 5 vs. Lakers. Once again at the hands of Lakers and the MDE Shaq. Duncan did quite well, scoring 34 points on 11 for 23 and 12 for 14 from the FT line, to go along with 25 rebounds and 4 assists. Spurs lost.

2003:
No elimination games, as the Spurs went on to win the championship, finishing each series in 6 games..

2004:
Game 6 vs. the Lakers. Once again at the hands of the Lakers and MDE Shaq. Duncan scored 20 points on 7 for 18 shooting and 6 for 8 from FT line. Nobody else on the Spurs scored more points and only Devin Brown (5 for 10) and Horry (3 for 7) shot better from the field. Spurs lost.

2005:
Game 7 vs. Pistons. Duncan shot only 10 for 27 and 5 for 6 from the FT line against the bruising frontline of the Wallace brothers (certainly a step up from going again 1 on 1 vs. Paul Pierce) for 25 points, 11 rebounds, and 3 assists. Nobody scored more points, and almost every one shot better than Duncan outside of Parker and Mohammed. But then, Duncan, by himself, managed to outscore the Wallace brothers 25 to 23, out assist them (3 to 2), and barely rebounded less (11 to 12) by himself. It’s a bad game by Duncan standards, but hey, most fringe top 20 players would love to have a game like this. Spurs win.

2006:
Game 7 vs. Mavs. Duncan shot 12 for 24 and 17 for 23 from FTs for 41 points to go along with his 15 rebounds and 6 assists. Spurs played very well, the Mavs played better. Spurs lost.

2007:
No elimination games as the Spurs went on to win the championship.

2008:
Game 7 vs. NOH. Duncan played horribly, going 5 for 17 (still better than 25%) for 16 points and 6 for 6 from FTs, with 14 rebounds and 3 assists. No two ways about it, Manu saved the day with 26 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists. The amazing thing is, Manu outshot Duncan 19 to 17. I guess when Duncan is struggling, he knows, so he passed the ball to a hotter shooter. Side note, nobody on the Spurs shot more than 7 shots and had a FG% of better than 42%. It was a tough defensive game. Spurs win

Game 5 vs. Lakers. Shot 7 for 19 for 19 points, to go along with 15 rebounds and 10 assists. That’s right, a triple double. Something Kobe never managed in an elimination game. In fact, I couldn’t find one single elimination game where Kobe had 10 assists, and he’s a guard while Duncan is a PF. What is going on? Anyways, tough to play against a frontline of Gasol + Odom, who collectively pulled down 27 rebounds for the game, and dished out 6 assists, while Kobe shot 16 for 30 (that’s more than 50%, probably because it wasn’t a pressure packed elimination game for the Lakers) for 39 points. Spurs lost.

2009:
Game 5 vs. Dallas. You can make a case that Duncan is pretty much done in 2009, and Parker was already the leader on the Spurs at this point, especially on offense. But for argument’s sake …. Duncan shot 14 for 21 from the field for 30 points to go along with his 8 rebounds. Too bad he only shot 2 for 6 from the FT line. Spurs lost

2010:
Game 4 vs. PHO. Duncan shot 7 for 14 from the field and 3 for 7 from the FT line for 17 points, to go along with his 8 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and 3 blks. The Spurs shot well, the Suns shot better. Spurs lost.

2011:
Game 6 vs. MEM. The infamous 8 game. Duncan played horribly, shooting 5 for 13 and 2 for 2 from the FT line for 12 points. He chipped in with 10 rebounds and 3 assists, to go along with 3 blks against the bruising frontline of Gasol + Randolph. Difference is, at this stage in his career, he deferred to Parker and Ginobili, who both outshot Duncan (17 and 14 shots). The Spurs simply wasn’t good enough. Spurs lost.

2012:
Game 6 vs. OKC. The collapse after a 20-win streak. Also a game where OKC established themselves as the leader in drawing fouls. At this advanced age, Duncan shot 11 for 23 from the field, 3 for 4 from the line for 25 points, to go with his 14 rebounds, and 2 assists. Spurs lost.

So there you have it. Duncan shot 25% from the field 0 times out of the 10 games, and actually had a triple double, and had impressive games most of the time. It wasn’t until around 2009 or so until Parker and/or Ginobili was really carrying the offense.

[ambchang]

Do you really want to hurt me?
Do you really want to make me cry?
Precious stats are words that burn me
Kobe never ask you why

In my heart the fire's burnin'
Choose my colour, find a star
Precious Kobe always tell me
That's a step, a step too far

Do you really want to hurt me
Do you really want to make me cry
Do you really want to hurt me
Do you really want to make me cry

Stats are few, that I have chosen
Cherrypicked those I can use
Wrapped in sorrow, stats are token
Come inside Kobe my dear

[Brazil]

:lmao, good job OP

spurs fans being reaaaallllyyyyy maaadddd, 4 pages and counting

don't know why my fellows spurs fans fall into this every time.... that ain't difficult: create a thread where you take a jab at Tim Duncan and watch the upstairs otherwise confined posters coming at you.

[Brazil]

:fishing

[snickles]

...thats basically a stupid argument right there.

you've just described about 80% of this forum....

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobetards looking at nothing but PPG, also ignoring he was going up against the best defensive frontline of all-time probably (who he managed to outrebound by himself), nothing to see here. Not surprised Kobefan forgets their is another side of the court seeing as how their idol never plays on it

lol 6-24
You do know that Duncan shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe in his Finals Game 7.

lol 10-27 for a big man. Lol less rebounds than a guard.

[100%duncan]

You do know that Duncan shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe in his Finals Game 7.

lol 10-27 for a big man. Lol less rebounds than a guard.

Wallace Towers >>>>>>>>>>>> 1v1 Pierce. :lmao focusing on stats alone

[Thread]

:lmao, good job OP

spurs fans being reaaaallllyyyyy maaadddd, 4 pages and counting

don't know why my fellows spurs fans fall into this every time.... that ain't difficult: create a thread where you take a jab at Tim Duncan and watch the upstairs otherwise confined posters coming at you.

They can dish it. They just can't take it.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wallace Towers >>>>>>>>>>>> 1v1 Pierce. :lmao focusing on stats alone
1 vs 1 with Pierce? Holy delusional shit.

[100%duncan]

1 vs 1 with Pierce? Holy delusional shit.

If that is in Holy Delusional shit category, then what do you call of your BS on focusing on stats alone? :lmao You can't even win an argument on that what else would happen if we move on and talk about PER stats and where your KoMe ranks there? :lmao And you're stupid if you consider Pierce's defense better than the Wallaces of '05.

[Thread]

And you're stupid if you consider Pierce's defense better than the Wallaces of '05.

Artest sure as Hell won't argue the point.

tee, hee.

[100%duncan]

Artest sure as Hell won't argue the point.

tee, hee.

MWP tbh.

tee, hee.

In before

I'm a trend setter.
I set trends.

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MWP tbh.

tee, hee.

In before

I'm a trend setter.
I set trends.

I don't do MWP.

It's my religion.

[Phillip]

Lets take a look at elimination games in the 05 and 07 playoffs - the years the Spurs won rings. By elimination, this means the last game of the series in which a team got eliminated.

2007 NBA Finals - Game 4

Duncan: 12-14-3 on 4-15 FG, 4-10 FT
FMVParker: 24-7-1 on 10-14 FG, 2-5 FT
Ginobili: 27-5-3 on 8-19 FG, 8-11 FT

2007 NBA WCF - Game 5

Duncan: 21-7-3 on 7-14 FG
Parker: 21-5-5 on 7-13 FG

2007 NBA WCSF - Game 6

Duncan: 24-13-1 9blk on 11-19 FG
Ginobili: 33-11-6 4stl on 11-17 FG
Parker: 30-2-6 on 11-27 FG

2007 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
Duncan: 23-12-5 on 10-19 FG
Finley: 26-4-1 on 9-14 FG, 8-9 3PT

Duncan was carried offensively. He was never the leading scorer in any of the elimination games during the 2007 playoffs. This is supposed to be one of his "the man" rings that Spurfan uses to put over Kobe, with him averaging 22-12-3 for the 07 playoffs - basically a Pau Gasol type line with an extra shot or two. But when Kobe averages 29-7-6 and 27-6-5 in the 01 and 02 playoffs, that is not as good as Duncan's 07 ring because he wasn't the man? Stupidity, but that discussion is for another thread. Duncan did not carry the team but I don't blame him, it's a tough thing to do. Parker and Manu had their moments in th elimination games. Duncan just sat back in the Finals in 07 and shot bricks but luckily Parker had it going not just in the elimination game, but all series long.

2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG


2005 NBA WCF - Game 5
Duncan: 31-15-4 on 14-24 FG
Ginobili: 19-8-6 on 6-15 FG

2005 NBA WCSF - Game 6
Duncan: 26-9-5 on 6-21 FG, 14-17 FT (Not going to cry about FTA like the other faggot did)
Parker: 14-2-3 on 6-13 FG
Ginobili: 13-6-7 on 3-6 FG

2005 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
Duncan: 18-11-5 on 8-15 FG
Parker: 21-3-7 on 9-17 FG
Ginobili: 18-9-4 on 4-9 FG

Finally! He had one game where he was clearly the best in an elimination game during the 2005 Playoffs. Funny how in Game 7 in the Finals he shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe did in his game 7. How can a post player shoot 10-27? 6-21 FG in another one, 6-21? Duncan did not fully carry his team inthr elimination game for this year, except once. Ginobili and Parker remained efficient while Duncan was building a brickhouse at times. 24-12-3 playoff average. Great numbers, but not all-time great for sure. Keep in mind he shot 46 FG% as a Center/Power Forward. Weak "the man" ring I say.

although this would be incredibly awful reasoning, this is great troll job material

lol gnsf mad

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Oh God, how did this shit reach 5 pages?..

[Clipper Nation]

Kobe's still working on ring #3. Sidekick rings don't count, brah.In that case, he's still working on ring #1, tbh....

[Thread]

:lol Oh God, how did this shit reach 5 pages?..

CWEBB & Pierce knew better.

tee, hee.

[HarlemHeat37]

CWEBB & Pierce knew better.

tee, hee.

What does that mean, tbh?..

[Thread]

What does that mean, tbh?..

It means if CWEBB would have listened to Adelman, and if Pierce had listened to Rivers it wouldn't be 5-4 Kobe and you wouldn't be asking God how this got to 5 pages.

[HarlemHeat37]

It means if CWEBB would have listened to Adelman, and if Pierce had listened to Rivers it wouldn't be 5-4 Kobe and you wouldn't be asking God how this got to 5 pages.

Ohhh, clever..

[pad300]

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Holy Shit, you feeling OK Thread? Your parrot is weak - he didn't reply to each and every one of those individually? Christ man, get yourself to a doctor - there's clearly something wrong with you...

[Thread]

Holy Shit, you feeling OK Thread? Your parrot is weak - he didn't reply to each and every one of those individually? Christ man, get yourself to a doctor - there's clearly something wrong with you...

...The old lady took a sick day.

I could just cry.

[Banzai]

Duncan doesn't win any rings without TP and Gino, Lebron doesn't win a ring without Wade and Bosh, Kobe doesn't win a ring without Shaq, Pau...shit can be used all around.

[midnightpulp]

You do know that Duncan shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe in his Finals Game 7.

lol 10-27 for a big man. Lol less rebounds than a guard.

You're pretty stupid, aren't you?

Their respective rebound percentages for those games:

Kobe: 17.3

Duncan: 17.5

You do realize rebounding can be greatly affected by pace/missed shots?

The Pistons and Spurs combined for 60 made FGs on 142 total shots.

The Lakers and Celtics combined for 56 made FGs on 154 total shots.

Meaning there were 16 more available rebounds in the Lakers/Celtics game than there were in the Spurs/Pistons game (and that's not counting missed second FTs, which the Lakers/Celtics game had more of, as well).

Also worth mentioning is Duncan was the leading rebounder on his team. Kobe wasn't.

Thanks for playing.

[midnightpulp]

You're pretty stupid, aren't you?

Their respective rebound percentages for those games:

Kobe: 17.3

Duncan: 17.5

You do realize rebounding can be greatly affected by pace/missed shots?

The Pistons and Spurs combined for 60 made FGs on 142 total shots.

The Lakers and Celtics combined for 56 made FGs on 154 total shots.

Meaning there were 16 more available rebounds in the Lakers/Celtics game than there were in the Spurs/Pistons game (and that's not counting missed second FTs, which the Lakers/Celtics game had more of, as well).

Also worth mentioning is Duncan was the leading rebounder on his team. Kobe wasn't.

Thanks for playing.

Duncan also had one more dime than Kirby in his shitty Game 7. :lmao

Even when the two players suck in a similar situation, Duncan manages to suck a little bit less, coming out on top, as usual when we compare the two players individually.

[Halberto]

what a lame troll attempt

I wonder why he chose just 05 and 07? Probably because its the only years he could use.

People should always remember game 5 of the 2003 finals where TD almost got a QUADRUPLE F---ING DOUBLE on the road with the series tied 2-2.

doesn't get much more clutch than that

[Killakobe81]

Mid getting sucked in thought you turned the page on this chapter homey? Oh Deuce bring you out ofbid retirement?

[midnightpulp]

...

[midnightpulp]

Oh, and Deuce's favorite stat:

TS%

Kirby: .394 (against Paul Pierce. Don't even bring up Tony Allen, Laker faggots. He played 5 minutes).

Duncan: .422 (against the best defensive front line of the decade).

See, this is why I'm retiring from the Kobe vs. Duncan debate. It's far too easy to annihilate Kirby fanboys, and I have a counter to every conceivable argument they can come up with. Not because I necessarily have encyclopedic knowledge of this debate, but because Duncan's obvious superiority over Kirby makes it too easy. I do commend Kirby fans for sticking with that ship as it sinks, though. Your dedication is truly remarkable.

But feel free to cite the 5 rings (team accomplishment). Satch Sanders has 8 of 'em.

[Thread]

I wonder why he chose just 05 and 07?

He couldn't find a 6-24|Duncan|an NBA Title isosceles triangle.


tee, hee.

[Leetonidas]

You do know that Duncan shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe in his Finals Game 7.

lol 10-27 for a big man. Lol less rebounds than a guard.
Kobe wasn't being guarded by a duo of some of the best post defense in NBA history fucktard

lol cherry picking one game where Kobe had more rebounds when Duncan was going up against one of the most vaunted post defenses of all-time.

[Leetonidas]

and you can say whatever you want, but when the Spurs needed buckets in Game 7 in the second half, Duncan took over and went to work, meanwhile Kobe is getting his ass bailed out by his teammates while you cling on to his rebounds :lmao


:cry he helped in other ways besides scoring :cry

lol 6-24 in Game 7
lol "next jordan"
lol rapist

[Leetonidas]

what a lame troll attempt

I wonder why he chose just 05 and 07? Probably because its the only years he could use.

People should always remember game 5 of the 2003 finals where TD almost got a QUADRUPLE F---ING DOUBLE on the road with the series tied 2-2.

doesn't get much more clutch than that

Actually it was in the closeout game, not in Game 5, making it more impressive


although this would be incredibly awful reasoning, this is great troll job material

lol gnsf mad

if this wasn't a butthurt response thread to ambchang I would be inclined to agree, but this argument is old and tired :sleep

[whitemamba]

You do know that Duncan shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe in his Finals Game 7.

lol 10-27 for a big man. Lol less rebounds than a guard.


daaaaaaaamn

[Phillip]

if this wasn't a butthurt response thread to ambchang I would be inclined to agree, but this argument is old and tired :sleep

well to seasoned vets like you, its weaksauce

but still there is nothing quite like seeing gnsf get butthurt over blatantly obvious troll jobs

[Floyd Pacquiao]

You're pretty stupid, aren't you?

Their respective rebound percentages for those games:

Kobe: 17.3

Duncan: 17.5

You do realize rebounding can be greatly affected by pace/missed shots?

The Pistons and Spurs combined for 60 made FGs on 142 total shots.

The Lakers and Celtics combined for 56 made FGs on 154 total shots.

Meaning there were 16 more available rebounds in the Lakers/Celtics game than there were in the Spurs/Pistons game (and that's not counting missed second FTs, which the Lakers/Celtics game had more of, as well).

Also worth mentioning is Duncan was the leading rebounder on his team. Kobe wasn't.

Thanks for playing.



My nigga midnightpulp going in dat ass with no lube

[ambchang]

Duncan doesn't win any rings without TP and Gino, Lebron doesn't win a ring without Wade and Bosh, Kobe doesn't win a ring without Shaq, Pau...shit can be used all around.

99

[Thread]

and you can say whatever you want, but when the Spurs needed buckets in Game 7 in the second half, Duncan took over and went to work, meanwhile Kobe is getting his ass bailed out by his teammates while you cling on to his rebounds :lmao


:cry he helped in other ways besides scoring :cry

lol 6-24 in Game 7
lol "next jordan"
lol rapist

You've nary room.

Your Neal raped as well.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

You've nary room.

Your Neal raped as well.

Trollers gonna troll

[Thread]

Trollers gonna troll

Just checkin' assholes.

[Deuce Bigalow]

and you can say whatever you want, but when the Spurs needed buckets in Game 7 in the second half, Duncan took over and went to work, meanwhile Kobe is getting his ass bailed out by his teammates while you cling on to his rebounds :lmao


:cry he helped in other ways besides scoring :cry

lol 6-24 in Game 7
lol "next jordan"
lol rapist
Kobe had 10 points in the 4th quarter - the most in the game. He also got the Celtics in foul trouble which was key because the Cs were in the penalty early allowing the Lakers to control the game. So say what you want about 6-24, he came through in the 4th, and did other things than making shots.

[ambchang]

Kobe had 10 points in the 4th quarter - the most in the game. He also got the Celtics in foul trouble which was key because the Cs were in the penalty early allowing the Lakers to control the game. So say what you want about 6-24, he came through in the 4th, and did other things than making shots.

LOL, how many of those were FTs? And no, he didn't get the Celtics in foul trouble, the zebras did.

37-17, I am shocked you would bring this into the debate.

Like talking about the 4th quarter FT disparity between Game 6.

[Trainwreck2100]

OMG guys duncan is going to have to play SSSOOOOO hard to beat a team that he's already beat 3 previous times in a span of 2 weeks

[Thread]

OMG guys duncan is going to have to play SSSOOOOO hard to beat a team that he's already beat 3 previous times in a span of 2 weeks

15 more wins and you've got the con, wrecky.

chop/chop.

[Deuce Bigalow]

LOL, how many of those were FTs? And no, he didn't get the Celtics in foul trouble, the zebras did.

37-17, I am shocked you would bring this into the debate.

Like talking about the 4th quarter FT disparity between Game 6.
So it was rigged? That's your argument? Wow.

[ambchang]

So it was rigged? That's your argument? Wow.

So you admit Game 6 was rigged?

[Killakobe81]

LOL, how many of those were FTs? And no, he didn't get the Celtics in foul trouble, the zebras did.

37-17, I am shocked you would bring this into the debate.

Like talking about the 4th quarter FT disparity between Game 6.


Only pussies and assholes, Amb

[ambchang]

Only pussies and assholes, Amb

He contradicted himself, this line will forever be retired as a result.

[Deuce Bigalow]

So you admit Game 6 was rigged?
Ugh where did you get that from? Meth?

[ambchang]

Ugh where did you get that from? Meth?

I drew a parallel between game 7 and game 6, then you said I said game 7 was rigged. The only way that would have been a logical conclusion from you end is that you think game 6 was rigged, Ang by comparing any other games to tht one particular game is akin to calling the other games rigged

[Fergie The Florists]

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs18/f/2007/137/2/e/nWo_Style_Wallpaper_by_lucapoison.jpg

[LkrFan]

Lets take a look at elimination games in the 05 and 07 playoffs - the years the Spurs won rings. By elimination, this means the last game of the series in which a team got eliminated.

2007 NBA Finals - Game 4

Duncan: 12-14-3 on 4-15 FG, 4-10 FT
FMVParker: 24-7-1 on 10-14 FG, 2-5 FT
Ginobili: 27-5-3 on 8-19 FG, 8-11 FT

2007 NBA WCF - Game 5

Duncan: 21-7-3 on 7-14 FG
Parker: 21-5-5 on 7-13 FG

2007 NBA WCSF - Game 6

Duncan: 24-13-1 9blk on 11-19 FG
Ginobili: 33-11-6 4stl on 11-17 FG
Parker: 30-2-6 on 11-27 FG

2007 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
Duncan: 23-12-5 on 10-19 FG
Finley: 26-4-1 on 9-14 FG, 8-9 3PT

Duncan was carried offensively. He was never the leading scorer in any of the elimination games during the 2007 playoffs. This is supposed to be one of his "the man" rings that Spurfan uses to put over Kobe, with him averaging 22-12-3 for the 07 playoffs - basically a Pau Gasol type line with an extra shot or two. But when Kobe averages 29-7-6 and 27-6-5 in the 01 and 02 playoffs, that is not as good as Duncan's 07 ring because he wasn't the man? Stupidity, but that discussion is for another thread. Duncan did not carry the team but I don't blame him, it's a tough thing to do. Parker and Manu had their moments in th elimination games. Duncan just sat back in the Finals in 07 and shot bricks but luckily Parker had it going not just in the elimination game, but all series long.

2005 NBA Finals - Game 7

Duncan: 25-11-3 on 10-27 FG
Ginobili: 23-5-4 on 8-13 FG


2005 NBA WCF - Game 5
Duncan: 31-15-4 on 14-24 FG
Ginobili: 19-8-6 on 6-15 FG

2005 NBA WCSF - Game 6
Duncan: 26-9-5 on 6-21 FG, 14-17 FT (Not going to cry about FTA like the other faggot did)
Parker: 14-2-3 on 6-13 FG
Ginobili: 13-6-7 on 3-6 FG

2005 NBA 1stRd - Game 5
Duncan: 18-11-5 on 8-15 FG
Parker: 21-3-7 on 9-17 FG
Ginobili: 18-9-4 on 4-9 FG

Finally! He had one game where he was clearly the best in an elimination game during the 2005 Playoffs. Funny how in Game 7 in the Finals he shot 10-27 and grabbed 4 less rebounds than Kobe did in his game 7. How can a post player shoot 10-27? 6-21 FG in another one, 6-21? Duncan did not fully carry his team inthr elimination game for this year, except once. Ginobili and Parker remained efficient while Duncan was building a brickhouse at times. 24-12-3 playoff average. Great numbers, but not all-time great for sure. Keep in mind he shot 46 FG% as a Center/Power Forward. Weak "the man" ring I say.
Dropping deuces per par tbqh. :rollin :lmao :rollin

[DMC]

Fixed. The preview didn't show up like that so I don't know wtf happened.

Kinda like the Lakers' season this year eh?

[Proxy]

a 14 year old's take on basketball gets 6 pages of butthurt responses... 10/10, Deuce

[Banzai]

99

Can't win without Avery johnson

[ambchang]

Can't win without Avery johnson

Wait, is it Avery Johnson, Manu and Parker, or what? Or are you saying Avery Johnson, who had an astounding playoff winshare in 99 of 1.5, and regular ws of 3.9 (compared to 3.7 and 8.7 for Duncan) is the same caliber of Manu + Parker?

You know, if you could have said Duncan can't win without Popovich, and I would have agreed with you. Because you know what? it is true. Popovich created multiple fantastic systems, ones that were big man dominant (99), big man + outside shooting (03), and big man + slashing (05), or slashing + big man (07, different from 05 in priorities and main point of attack), each using Duncan as a major component.

[Banzai]

Wait, is it Avery Johnson, Manu and Parker, or what? Or are you saying Avery Johnson, who had an astounding playoff winshare in 99 of 1.5, and regular ws of 3.9 (compared to 3.7 and 8.7 for Duncan) is the same caliber of Manu + Parker?

You know, if you could have said Duncan can't win without Popovich, and I would have agreed with you. Because you know what? it is true. Popovich created multiple fantastic systems, ones that were big man dominant (99), big man + outside shooting (03), and big man + slashing (05), or slashing + big man (07, different from 05 in priorities and main point of attack), each using Duncan as a major component.
great insight

[Trainwreck2100]

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/850/1367037238388.gif

:cry didn't happen in an elimination game though :cry