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coyotes_geek
04-24-2013, 11:37 AM
smh.....


The Texas House unexpectedly voted to kill the Texas Lottery Commission on Tuesday, but after a short break and some introspection, the members came back with a change of heart.

Mainstream Republicans and tea party-backed conservatives sought to gain favor with the right wing of the GOP by voting against the unpopular lottery commission. Some thought they could appease anti-lottery constituents — who see the lottery as a form of gambling that takes advantage of the poor — with protest votes against the commission.

But as it turned out, there were enough nays for the House to reject House Bill 2197, the “sunset” bill that must pass to continue the commission’s operations. That initial vote was 65-81.

Immediately after the vote, some members pondered the implications, particularly the billions of dollars that would be lost for public education funding in Texas.

House leaders abruptly called for a late lunch break, and, after they came back, members instead approved the bill 91-53. There was no discussion.

link (http://www.statesman.com/news/news/house-votes-to-abolish-lottery-then-has-second-tho/nXWFW/)

boutons_deux
04-24-2013, 11:45 AM
:lol

lottery's are regressive tax on hopeless, deluded poor people.

boutons_deux
04-24-2013, 12:02 PM
Disturbing Facts About State Lotteries: They Prey on the Poor and Trash the Economy, and Political Leaders Don't Care (Hard Times USA)


1. Legalized gambling is almost everywhere.Legalized gambling is available in every state except (http://consults.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/the-states-role-in-gambling-addiction/?pagewanted=print) for Utah and Hawaii. This includes state lotteries, which are in 42 states (http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/dec/05/1205c-personal-finance-lottery-mania-hurts-low/), Puerto Rico and Washington DC. Lotteries were illegal for most of the 20th century, but that changed in 1964 when New Hampshire—a state without (http://www.revenue.nh.gov/faq/gti-rev.htm) an income tax—reinstituted (http://www.irp.wisc.edu/publications/focus/pdfs/foc124b.pdf) a state lottery. The first lotteries predate the American Revolution, but those mostly privately run efforts were so corrupt they were completely prohibited (http://www.irp.wisc.edu/publications/focus/pdfs/foc124b.pdf) by every state in 1894.

2. They suck billions out of the economy.In 2009, $50.4 billon was spent (http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/07/15/u-s-lotteries-and-the-state-taxman/) on state lottery tickets and video kiosks. The government pocketed (http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/07/15/u-s-lotteries-and-the-state-taxman/) $17.9 billion of this total in 2010, which breaks down to 30 percent in profits and 8 percent in administrative costs, including advertising. The rest went to prizes and commissions to stores selling the tickets. Many corner stores could not remain open without (http://rdwolff.com/content/lotteries-disguised-regressive-and-counterproductive-taxes) the income from lottery sales.

3. They are a tax from anti-tax politicans. Tax-averse Democrats and Republicans have increasingly been relying on state lotteries to subsidize basic public programs like schools instead of raising taxes for that purpose. In 11 states—Delaware, West Virginia, Rhode Island, Oregon, South Dakota, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio, South Carolina, Texas and Washington—the lottery raised more per person (http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/07/15/u-s-lotteries-and-the-state-taxman/) than corporate income taxes. “The long-term shift in tax burdens from capital and corporations to individuals and their activities is perhaps best illustrated by the rise of state lotteries,” wrote (http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/07/15/u-s-lotteries-and-the-state-taxman/) tax expert David Cay Johnston, calling lotteries “the most heavily taxed consumer product in America.”

4. They hit the poorest the hardest. “Simply put, lotteries take the most from those who can least afford it,” wrote (http://rdwolff.com/content/lotteries-disguised-regressive-and-counterproductive-taxes) economist Richard Wolff. “Instead of taking those most able to pay (the principle of federal income tax in the U.S.), state leaders use lotteries to disguise a regressive tax that falls on the middle and even more on the poor.” A 2010 study found that households with take-home incomes of less than $13,000 spent (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/05/31/poor-people-spend-9-of-income-on-lottery-tickets-heres-why/) on average $645 a year on lottery tickets, which is about 9 percent of their income. The reason people play lotteries varies, but it mixes (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/05/31/poor-people-spend-9-of-income-on-lottery-tickets-heres-why/) hopes and dreams with desperation: poorer people see it (http://rdwolff.com/content/lotteries-disguised-regressive-and-counterproductive-taxes) as a slim chance to radically improve their standard of living.

5. Communities of color, less-educated spend the most. Numerous academic studies have found that non-whites spend much more on lotteries than whites, with one (http://rdwolff.com/content/lotteries-disguised-regressive-and-counterproductive-taxes) study putting the figure at $998 for African Americans and $210 for whites. Household with incomes under $25,000 spent (http://rdwolff.com/content/lotteries-disguised-regressive-and-counterproductive-taxes) an average of about $600 a year, while $100,000-plus earners spent about $300 year. People who never graduated from college spent (http://rdwolff.com/content/lotteries-disguised-regressive-and-counterproductive-taxes) the most, about $700 a year, while graduates spent under $200.

6. They redistribute money up the economic ladder. Most people buy tickets and win little or nothing. This is taking more money from the poor, working and lower middle-classes than from those most able to pay taxes. These billions also are diverted away from local businesses—with the exception of the stores where tickets are sold. “This is exacty the opposite of the kind of economic stimulus a depressed economy needs,” wrote (http://rdwolff.com/content/lotteries-disguised-regressive-and-counterproductive-taxes) economist Wolff.

7. They give the wrong message about solving poverty. Lotteries reinforce libertarian political messages, suggesting that everyone needs to take individual action in response to socirty’s inequities, even though the government has helped well-connected individuals, businesses and industries become rich for decades. This easy money for states diverts political debate away from society-wide analyses and solutions to what prevents people from moving up the economic ladder. Instead, it pushes (http://rdwolff.com/content/lotteries-disguised-regressive-and-counterproductive-taxes) individuals in marginal circumstances toward gambling as their hope for gain.

8. They amount to one of the highest investment tax rates. Another way to look at the social policy hypocrisy surrounding state lotteries is to skip the moral dimension—the religious objections to gambling, the mental health costs of gambling addition, the hidden state income tax—and just compare the tax rates on this form of investment with tax rates on other types of inventments, such as stocks. State lotteries impose a 38 percent tax rate (http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/07/15/u-s-lotteries-and-the-state-taxman/) on buying tickets, according to Johnston. No taxes are paid when a person buys a stock or bond, a more preferred investment vehicle for wealthier households. Moreover, the current federal tax rate (http://taxes.about.com/od/capitalgains/a/CapitalGainsTax_4.htm) for earnings from short-term investments—held less than a year—ranges from 10 to 35 percent.

9. Hypocritical when compared to state drug laws. One of the rationales for criminalizing drugs is that abuse leads to addiction, which harms individuals, families and society at large. But state-sponsored gambling also feeds (http://consults.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/the-states-role-in-gambling-addiction/?pagewanted=print) addictive behavior—people who are addicted to gaming, including lotteries. “I work in a convenience store and the way some people are addicted to the lottery is downright sickening,” wrote toddpugz, responding to a DailyFinance.com report (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/05/31/poor-people-spend-9-of-income-on-lottery-tickets-heres-why/) on the topic. “I see people every day who scrape together their last few pennies to play the lottery. Even worse are the ones who claim the lottery is ‘fixed’ but continue to play it on a daily basis. And let’s not forget those who actually ‘study’ past numbers thinking it will give them some insight into the next day’s numbers.”

10. Big winners often see their lives unravel. One of the surprises (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/28/500-million-powerball-jackpot-the-tragic-stories-of-the-lotterys-unluckiest-winners/slide/the-winningest-losers/) that comes with winning the lottery—for the rare few who win big—is how a fast infusion of money can wreck (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/28/500-million-powerball-jackpot-the-tragic-stories-of-the-lotterys-unluckiest-winners/slide/billie-bob-harrell-jr/) families, disrupt friendships (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/28/500-million-powerball-jackpot-the-tragic-stories-of-the-lotterys-unluckiest-winners/slide/callie-rogers/) and even invite violent (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/28/500-million-powerball-jackpot-the-tragic-stories-of-the-lotterys-unluckiest-winners/slide/urooj-khan/) crime, con-men (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/28/500-million-powerball-jackpot-the-tragic-stories-of-the-lotterys-unluckiest-winners/slide/keith-gough/), and targeting (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/28/500-million-powerball-jackpot-the-tragic-stories-of-the-lotterys-unluckiest-winners/slide/william-post/) by jealous family members (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/28/500-million-powerball-jackpot-the-tragic-stories-of-the-lotterys-unluckiest-winners/slide/jeffrey-dampier/). Some winners spend (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/28/500-million-powerball-jackpot-the-tragic-stories-of-the-lotterys-unluckiest-winners/slide/andrew-jack-whittaker/) all their winnings in no time (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/28/500-million-powerball-jackpot-the-tragic-stories-of-the-lotterys-unluckiest-winners/slide/michael-carroll/). Others just use it to fuel more gambling binges (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/28/500-million-powerball-jackpot-the-tragic-stories-of-the-lotterys-unluckiest-winners/slide/evelyn-basehore/).


http://www.alternet.org/hard-times-usa/disturbing-facts-about-state-lotteries-they-prey-poor-and-trash-economy-and-political?paging=off

coyotes_geek
04-24-2013, 12:10 PM
boutons and republicans agree. lottery bad.

CosmicCowboy
04-24-2013, 12:19 PM
:lmao Boutons agrees with the Tea Party!!!!!!!

boutons_deux
04-24-2013, 12:30 PM
boutons and republicans agree. lottery bad.

TX Repugs would rather lottery-ripoff the poor than cut $19B/year in tax expenditure to business.

coyotes_geek
04-24-2013, 12:39 PM
TX Repugs would rather lottery-ripoff the poor than cut $19B/year in tax expenditure to business.


Mainstream Republicans and tea party-backed conservatives sought to gain favor with the right wing of the GOP by voting against the unpopular lottery commission.

lol boutons.

TeyshaBlue
04-24-2013, 01:07 PM
:lmao:lmao

DUNCANownsKOBE
04-24-2013, 01:10 PM
:lmao

For the record, I agree with the tea party here as well. However I also think calling the lottery a "regressive tax" is batshit stupid for so many reasons.

TeyshaBlue
04-24-2013, 01:36 PM
:lmao

For the record, I agree with the tea party here as well. However I also think calling the lottery a "regressive tax" is batshit stupid for so many reasons.

Yeah well, consider the source.:lol

Blake
04-24-2013, 01:44 PM
It's silly that we have a state run lottery, but don't allow casinos.

It's sillier, reprehensible even, that they stick $50 scratch offs in the lottery machines at HEB.

Winehole23
04-24-2013, 01:53 PM
"lunch break?"

coyotes_geek
04-24-2013, 01:55 PM
"lunch break?"

Politically correct terminology for an "oh shit" break.

Drachen
04-24-2013, 02:07 PM
They realized that they also voted to kill of Church Charity Bingo for all of their senior citizen voters.

TeyshaBlue
04-24-2013, 02:08 PM
Politically correct terminology for an "oh shit" break.
:lol

baseline bum
04-24-2013, 06:51 PM
boutons is right that the lottery is effectively a tax on the poor (technically a tax on the people ignorant of simple math, which is mostly the poor). Nevertheless, I support lottery and casinos over a true socialized regressive increase in sales tax, for example. LOL playing the lottery or going to casinos for anything other than poker (where you take other peoples' money instead of the house's, so you can actually win there).