Give me some credit

[chazley]

I've always been on Bonner's side. He is breaking through with the playoff series I always knew he could have. He is our best low-post 1-on-1 defender, and our best catch and shoot 3-pt shooter. I stuck with him, and even though early this season I thought he was done, he is thriving at the exact right time. Great job Matt Bonner. I believed in you when no one else did.

[HarlemHeat37]

You did believe in him more than anybody else, but you quit on him, which is something a real fan wouldn't do, tbh..no more room on the bandwagon..

[DesignatedT]

He is our best low-post 1-on-1 defender

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/173/576/Wat8.jpg?1315930535

[Floyd Pacquiao]

you lost me at "best low post defender"

[100%duncan]

you lost me at "best low post defender"

[chazley]

Is there an advanced stat for when defenders are isolated on a post-up what the PER is for the offensive player?

And yes, our best low post defender.

[Beaverfuzz]

You crazy!

[spurraider21]

Is there an advanced stat for when defenders are isolated on a post-up what the PER is for the offensive player?

And yes, our best low post defender.

i actually remember a couple of seasons ago there was a metric that showed Bonner gave up less ppp on post ups than our other bigs. tbh that season we were comparing him to shell of Tim Duncan and Blair. TD's resurgence past couple of seasons has ended that flukey stat

[Splits]

http://consumermediallc.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/041410-003-equifax.jpg?w=300&h=186

[Budkin]

You just jinxed it... thanks a lot.

[Solid D]

http://colitz.com/site/4608967/fig1.gif

[Boomersgold]

I've always been on Bonner's side. He is breaking through with the playoff series I always knew he could have. He is our best low-post 1-on-1 defender, and our best catch and shoot 3-pt shooter. I stuck with him, and even though early this season I thought he was done, he is thriving at the exact right time. Great job Matt Bonner. I believed in you when no one else did.

"He is our best low-post 1-on-1 defender"
Luke Bonner, is that you? :bang

[Solid D]

http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1348241830l/5111818.jpg

[Uriel]

According to Synergy Sports, in post-up isolation situations, Matt Bonner gives up the lowest FG% in the entire team.

So in that sense, yes, he is our best post-up defender.

[100%duncan]

http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1348241830l/5111818.jpg

:lmao

[chazley]

According to Synergy Sports, in post-up isolation situations, Matt Bonner gives up the lowest FG% in the entire team.

So in that sense, yes, he is our best post-up defender.

Thank you.

This further proves the majority of you are trolls and don't hold a candle to me.

[jhfenton]

http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1348241830l/5111818.jpg
I'll give Solid D credit for saving this thread.

[Aztecfan03]

Thank you.

This further proves the majority of you are trolls and don't hold a candle to me.

Pretty sure Duncan goes up against better competition, so no it doesn't.

[benefactor]

Sorry...this thread goes in the "Throwing Shit Against the Wall Until One Finally Sticks" forum. Mods please move. Thanks.

[chazley]

Pretty sure Duncan goes up against better competition, so no it doesn't.

maybe you missed the game tonight, cause you obviously didn't see that Bonner did work against Dwight Howard.

[Leetonidas]

gtfo, one game does not make up for 6 years of failure. You can't come in here after Bonner finally has a decent game after years of trash and say I told you so. let's see if he can put a couple more games like these together in future rounds

[Brazil]

OP quit on Bonner, OP quit on RMJ... OP has no room to ask for credits

[Spur|n|Austin]

This is great

[Nathan89]

Is there an advanced stat for when defenders are isolated on a post-up what the PER is for the offensive player?

And yes, our best low post defender.

Does he typically guard the best starting big as much as lets say Tim Duncan?

[DarrinS]

I've always been on Bonner's side. He is breaking through with the playoff series I always knew he could have. He is our best low-post 1-on-1 defender, and our best catch and shoot 3-pt shooter. I stuck with him, and even though early this season I thought he was done, he is thriving at the exact right time. Great job Matt Bonner. I believed in you when no one else did.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r213/IdleIdols/season-6/e2/kenneth-briggs.jpg

[Budkin]

I know it's cliche but this thread deserves it:

http://toolazytofail.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/facepalm.jpg

[silverblk mystix]

gtfo, one game does not make up for 6 years of failure. You can't come in here after Bonner finally has a decent game after years of trash and say I told you so. let's see if he can put a couple more games like these together in future rounds

This.

Even though Leefagnidas is a sucky poster - I agree.

[ohmwrecker]

This.

Even though Leefagnidas is a sucky poster - I agree.

http://lifeasandrea.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/pot-calling-kettle-black.jpg

[silverblk mystix]

http://lifeasandrea.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/pot-calling-kettle-black.jpg


Speaking of sucky posters...geez..right on cue.

[ohmwrecker]

I fondle nutsacks for a living.

[Legacy]

"You want a cookie?? ... Here's a cookie!!" :downspin:


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[Stabula]

God damn who gives a shit

[hater]

meh it is the lakers he's facing. They have no business in the playoffs. Wake me up when he has repeat performances in round 2 and/or 3

[JR3]

This thread is hilarious. Thanks for the laughs!

[chazley]

Bunch of idiots refusing to admit that I was 100% spot on about Bonner. Feels amazing.

[chazley]

Oh, and even though it sounds like a ridiculous statement, Bonner is absolutely our best 1-on-1 low post defender. Tim is a GREAT weakside defensive player, but considering he is lead-footed at this point in his career, his 1-on-1 defensive can be susceptible to occasional lapses due to lack of quickness. Being completely serious, Bonner has a huge advantage being a nerdy white guy because I think every player that iso's against him wants to 'exploit the matchup' and post him up, but he is actually very very good and a strong guy that doesn't mind getting physical. Very much a 'machismo' situation whenever they see him.

[ParadoxEN]

He is our best low-post 1-on-1 defender

This is, simply, not true. Here's data, per Synergy Sports, regarding low-post defense this season:



Player

%Time
Number
PPP
Rank
FGM
FGA
FG%
%TO
%Score


Matt B.

28.0

68
0.79
98
20
47
42.6
16.2
42.6


Tiago S.
32.1
163
0.70
40
51
130
39.2
16.0
35.6


Tim D.

37.3
173
0.76
75
56
138
40.6
11.0
40.5


Dejuan B.
30.3
63
0.83
139
18
47
38.8
7.9
42.9


Boris D.
27.0
116
0.90
188
43
93
46.2
10.3
46.6



As you can see, statistically speaking, Matt Bonner is not the Spurs' best low-post defender this season. Obviously, there are variables (such as sample size) that complicate this matter, but I think it's considerably difficult to formulate a valid argument for the aforementioned claim.

Some questions to ask yourself--

1.) Level of competition: what percentage of the "number" column took place against starter-level players? Are, say, Duncan and Splitter more likely to have a larger percentage than Bonner?

2.) Sample size: a small (comparably) sample size often belies reality. Naturally, this requires some extrapolation, but are Bonner's numbers more likely to improve or worsen with increased opportunity?

3.) Time of occurrence: does the quarter/minute/second these post-ups occurred matter? Perhaps data regarding minutes played per quarter would be beneficial?

With all that said, however, I do think Matt Bonner is a better defender than generally assumed, but let's not get carried away.

[chazley]

This is, simply, not true. Here's data, per Synergy Sports, regarding low-post defense this season:



Player

%Time
Number
PPP
Rank
FGM
FGA
FG%
%TO
%Score


Matt B.

28.0

68
0.79
98
20
47
42.6
16.2
42.6


Tiago S.
32.1
163
0.70
40
51
130
39.2
16.0
35.6


Tim D.

37.3
173
0.76
75
56
138
40.6
11.0
40.5


Dejuan B.
30.3
63
0.83
139
18
47
38.8
7.9
42.9


Boris D.
27.0
116
0.90
188
43
93
46.2
10.3
46.6



As you can see, statistically speaking, Matt Bonner is not the Spurs' best low-post defender this season. Obviously, there are variables (such as sample size) that complicate this matter, but I think it's considerably difficult to formulate a valid argument for the aforementioned claim.

Some questions to ask yourself--

1.) Level of competition: what percentage of the "number" column took place against starter-level players? Are, say, Duncan and Splitter more likely to have a larger percentage than Bonner?

2.) Sample size: a small (comparably) sample size often belies reality. Naturally, this requires some extrapolation, but are Bonner's numbers more likely to improve or worsen with increased opportunity?

3.) Time of occurrence: does the quarter/minute/second these post-ups occurred matter? Perhaps data regarding minutes played per quarter would be beneficial?

With all that said, however, I do think Matt Bonner is a better defender than generally assumed, but let's not get carried away.

Great post, thanks. I will say though, I am specifically talking about in iso post-up situations, he is the best. That is somewhat different than just low-post defense. Tiago is the only one I would consider to be better than Matt in that regard, so no surprise he shows up on that list.

[pgardn]

7th game wcf. Spurs up by one. The Spurs know OKC will inexplicably isolate Ibaka or Perkins low post with 7 seconds to go. Pop calls a timeout before the inbound to sub Bonner in for Tim...

These are the types of nightmares that kill more than 7 US citizens in their sleep every night.