White House says Syria has/used WMD's

[CosmicCowboy]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/white-house-says-syrian-regime-used-chemical-weapons-164620417--politics.html

It's Deja Vu all over again.

[Th'Pusher]

Eagerly awaiting the administration's response.

[boutons_deux]

Barry has said chem weapons were a threshold not to be crossed by Assad, so let's see if he wimps out again.

[Wild Cobra]

Would those be the WMD that Saddam sent to Syria?

[The Reckoning]

lol at all the obama supporters talking shit about bush and his new library when theyre essentially supporting the same president.

[Wild Cobra]

lol at all the obama supporters talking shit about bush and his new library when theyre essentially supporting the same president.
Worse.

The Obomba supporters are OK with Obomba being worse. Typical liberal hypocrisy.

[Nbadan]

Would those be the WMD that Saddam sent to Syria?

:lol

[Nbadan]

Barry has said chem weapons were a threshold not to be crossed by Assad, so let's see if he wimps out again.

You seriously want to go into Syria?

[Nbadan]

Worse.

The Obomba supporters are OK with Obomba being worse. Typical liberal hypocrisy.

Worse .........ahahahahhahahahhhahhahaahhahahahhahahahah hahahaha..

[baseline bum]

You seriously want to go into Syria?

Yeah, I want no part of war in Syria, so hopefully Obama will be as spineless with his military threats as he was with healthcare and financial regulation.

[Avante]

It's time the rest of the world outside the Middle East banded together and built a huge wall around that region of the world, nothing comes in and only oil comes out. The world would be so much better off without having to deal with those primitive/barbaric lunatics.

[boutons_deux]

Worse.

The Obomba supporters are OK with Obomba being worse. Typical liberal hypocrisy.

YOU LIE

plenty of people and progressive media are extremely disappointed with Barry's continuation of dubya's atrocities, police state, etc.

The real hypocrisy is you dubya-suckers supporting criminal dubya/dickhead all the way, then bitching about the continuity under Barry.

[Nbadan]

(Reuters) - Assertions of chemical weapon use in Syria by Western and Israeli officials citing photos, sporadic shelling and traces of toxins do not meet the standard of proof needed for a U.N. team of experts waiting to gather their own field evidence.

Weapons inspectors will only determine whether banned chemical agents were used in the two-year-old conflict if they are able to access sites and take soil, blood, urine or tissue samples and examine them in certified laboratories, according to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), which works with the United Nations on inspections.

That type of evidence, needed to show definitively if banned chemicals were found, has not been presented by governments and intelligence agencies accusing Syria of using chemical weapons against insurgents.

"This is the only basis on which the OPCW would provide a formal assessment of whether chemical weapons have been used," said Michael Luhan, a spokesman for the Hague-based OPCW.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/26/us-syria-crisis-chemical-weapons-idUSBRE93P0UG201


Yeah, I want no part of war in Syria, so hopefully Obama will be as spineless with his military threats as he was with healthcare and financial regulation.

Still disappointed?

[Nbadan]

Fuck Netanyahu...fight your own wars..


ERUSALEM (Reuters) - The United States should consider military action to curb Syrian chemical weapons after Washington went public with suspicions they have been used in the country's civil war, Israel's deputy foreign minister said on Friday.

The challenge by Zev Elkin, a confidant of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, underscored tension this week over the allies' assessments on Syria, as well as longer-running disputes about how aggressively to confront Iran's nuclear program.

The White House said on Thursday the Syrian government had probably employed chemical arms on a small scale against rebels. The disclosure created a bind for President Barack Obama, who has declared such use a "red line" that must not be crossed.

It was also a shift from Washington's skeptical response to Tuesday's publication by the Israeli military of intelligence findings that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces had used chemical weapons repeatedly in recent months.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/israel-urges-u-action-over-syrian-chemical-weapons-064659048.

[Nbadan]

They are Christian minorities in Syria, and while they are certainly not Assad apologists, they know all too well -- given the history of the region -- that the alternative to him would be FAR worse than anything he's done. For all his faults, Assad has successfully maintained a very secular and safe society. Women can travel across the country by themselves, wearing what they want, and not worry one second about any kind of harassment by anyone. Try doing that in Egypt or Iraq. Minorities, particularly women, will be the first casualties if the Assad regime falls and the Islamist take over. And make no mistake, the opposition are Islamist. It's not like our buddies the Saudis would actually support any real democratic opposition.

[The Reckoning]

YOU LIE

plenty of people and progressive media are extremely disappointed with Barry's continuation of dubya's atrocities, police state, etc.

The real hypocrisy is you dubya-suckers supporting criminal dubya/dickhead all the way, then bitching about the continuity under Barry.


they both suck.

[Wild Cobra]

I'll bet president Bush is rejoicing that the WMD he could find, has been found.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

lol at all the obama supporters talking shit about bush and his new library when theyre essentially supporting the same president.

Almost as funny as Republicans who supported and still defend a war in Iraq pre-emptively complain about a War in Syria.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll bet president Bush is rejoicing that the WMD he could find, has been found.lol partisan hack conspiracy theories

[Wild Cobra]

Anyone hear what General Sada's opinion is on it?

[whitemamba]

i follow syria quite closely, and have a few syrian friends, they say to me this is all bullshit, propaganda at its finest, have we not learned anything from the past, lets stay the fuck out of other countries business and focus on america.

[Wild Cobra]

i follow syria quite closely, and have a few syrian friends, they say to me this is all bullshit, propaganda at its finest, have we not learned anything from the past, lets stay the fuck out of other countries business and focus on america.
It may be as much propaganda that convinced us to help get Qaddafi out.

I simply cannot believe we did that. The old man had mellowed in his years, and was attacking the people trying to overthrow a productive government. I guess the UN and Obama was afraid Qadddafi was going to unite Africa.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It may be as much propaganda that convinced us to help get Qaddafi out.

I simply cannot believe we did that. The old man had mellowed in his years, and was attacking the people trying to overthrow a productive government. I guess the UN and Obama was afraid Qadddafi was going to unite Africa.

You should go into political science so you can take your insight to the GOP ranks and help them out.

France was who acted first, ignoramus.

[Wild Cobra]

France was who acted first, ignoramus.
Where did I say we acted first? Without our help, do you think the rebels would have won?

[whitemamba]

It may be as much propaganda that convinced us to help get Qaddafi out.

I simply cannot believe we did that. The old man had mellowed in his years, and was attacking the people trying to overthrow a productive government. I guess the UN and Obama was afraid Qadddafi was going to unite Africa.

Qatar is the main financer behind syrias "revolution" read about the Gas Pipeline, theres alot more to it.

[boutons_deux]

REPUBLICANS: OBAMA MUST TAKE ACTION IN SYRIA SO WE CAN CRITICIZE ACTION HE TOOK IN SYRIA


Washington — A growing chorus of Republican lawmakers are demanding that President Obama take some action in Syria so that they can attack whatever action he took in Syria.

Appearing on CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) laid out the situation in stark terms: “The time for President Obama to do something in Syria that we can eviscerate him for is long overdue.”

Arguing that there are a variety of options available to Mr. Obama for dealing with Syria, Sen. Graham said, “The President needs to choose one of those options so that we can immediately identify it as a catastrophic choice and demand that he be impeached.”

Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) used an appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press” to express impatience with Mr. Obama’s “steadfast refusal to give us something new to rake him over the coals for.”

“The American people have grown weary of my nonstop criticism of the President’s handling of Libya,” he said. “They are ready to hear me incessantly berate him for his handling of a different country.”

At the end of his television appearance, Sen. McCain seemed to draw a line in the sand, making a direct challenge to Mr. Obama: “Mr. President, we are sick and tired of attacking you for your inaction. The time has come for us to attack you for your action.”

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/04/republicans-obama-must-take-action-in-syria-so-we-can-criticize-action-he-took-in-syria.html?mbid=nl_Borowitz%20(113)

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'm assuming that article is a joke....?

[boutons_deux]

it's deadly serious, All Repug Politics, All The Time

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I just watched McCain's entire Meet the Press interview from yesterday and he never said any of that (unless I missed it).

It seemed like it was too far out there.

[TeyshaBlue]

I'm assuming that article is a joke....?

It's like the onion without the talent.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It's like the onion without the talent.
:lol

In the actual interview McCain goes out of his way to compliment Obama for running a great campaign in 2008.

[coyotes_geek]

It's like the onion without the talent.

Speaking of.......


NEW YORK—Following his release from the New York Jets, NFL quarterback Tim Tebow told reporters Monday that at a moment of distress and confusion such as this, he is unsure who to turn to.

:lol

[Wild Cobra]

I'm assuming that article is a joke....?
Of course it is. It's the "New Yorker."

[BobaFett1]

it's deadly serious, All Repug Politics, All The Time

boutons cannot see the double standards at all.

[Nbadan]

Israel Claims Syria Used Chemical Weapons, But Israel Has Used White Phosphorus


sraeli web magazine +972 reported Thursday that the Israeli army has stopped using white phosphorus because it “does not look good” internationally. Israel was widely criticized after its use of white phosphorus in Operation Cast Lead in 2009 caused the civilian deaths. That was four years ago, but this announcement coincides with evidence of chemical weapons use in Syria. It could be part of a strategy to make Israel look good while pressing for international action on Syria.

White phosphorus burns on contact with air, emitting smoke. When it comes into contact with skin, it causes severe chemical burns that may extend down to the bone, that are difficult to heal because they may reignite when exposed to oxygen. The chemical has been used by international forces in Afghanistan, where an 8-year-old girl was severely burned on her head and neck by a white phosphorus shell in 2009.

In 2009, Human Rights Watch claimed that Israel’s use of white phosphorus shells over densely populated areas of Gaza during Operation Cast Lead was evidence of war crimes.White phosphorus is legal because, even though it is a dangerous incendiary, it is primarily used to provide smoke cover for troops. However, the HRW report said that their researchers found clear evidence that the Israeli military fired white phosphorus over dense urban areas where troops weren’t present and safer alternatives were available. As a result, the shells killed twelve civilians and wounded dozens of others.

The Israeli military responded at the time that its use of white phosphorus was in line with international law. Protocol III of the Convention on Conventional Weapons allows white phosphorus because it only restricts weapons “primarily designed” to set fires or cause burns. White phosphorus munitions’ primary military uses are to provide smokescreens for troop movement and to provide target markers, not as an incendiary.

MORE...

http://www.policymic.com/articles/37761/israel-claims-syria-used-chemical-weapons-but-israel-has-used-white-phosphorus

[TDMVPDPOY]

syria has no natural resources that the US gives a shit about to get involve this civil war

so much for obamas inaugural speech...

[Spurs da champs]

Too bad Israel controls the chicken hawks in Washington, all this hypocritical accusations against Syria & Iran are going to be very problematic assuming Obama follows their foreign policy.

[boutons_deux]

Christian jihad against Muslims! :lol

GOP Rep Justifies U.S. Military Intervention In Syria: ‘So Much Of Christianity Is There’ (http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/01/1946801/issa-christians-syria/)
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/darrell-issa.jpg



“There’s a huge US interest in the region. Our commitment to the Levante is long-standing, partially because of our relationship with Israel and with Lebanon,” Issa told a handful of reporters after leaving a classified briefing on the Syria intel assessment and possible US options.

“Partially, if you will, because of this being an area of the Holy Land,” Issa added. “The oldest churches. So much of Christianity is there.”

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/01/1946801/issa-christians-syria/

And how many $100Bs of taxpayer money and taxpayer livess is fiscal-hawk 1%er Issa willing to blow saving Syria's Christians?

[Nbadan]

Glad the grown-ups seem to be controlling the industrial war machine to some degree...


On Monday, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Robert Menendez, D-NJ, alluded to chemical weapons as he proposed a measure to provide limited arms to the rebels, asserting that Assad’s regime “has crossed a red line that forces us to consider all options.”

That assertion, however, appears far less certain than it did only a week ago. British, French and Israeli experts who expressed more confidence in their assessment than the Obama administration had in its judgment have in recent days qualified their positions, said Greg Thielmann, a former State Department intelligence analyst now with the Arms Control Association, a private organization that provides analysis of weapons issues. “That should make everyone suspicious,” he said. “And the reality may be lot more complicated.”

Thielmann added, “Do you really risk going to war without knowing who has used what and in what circumstances?”

Existing evidence casts more doubt on claims of chemical weapons use than it does to help build a case that one or both sides of the conflict have employed them.

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/05/07/5399801/syrian-chemical-weapons-use-still.html

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Syria is important because without Syria, Hezbollah is cutoff from Iran. I can see why that might be considered advantageous. The thing is that it's not just advantageous for us and the NATO core countries outside of France are isolationist lately.

[Nbadan]

Well, it is the Americans, British and French would have engaged in 'proactive war' by NATO...the problem in Syria is that the 'rebels' are Islamist and Assad, who needs to go, has kept Syria more secular....so if the US directly supplies the rebels, and they topple Assad, we could be making the very same mistake we made in Afghanistan with Obama...ummm...Osama..

[SA210]

There is much more to Israel's recent attacks on Syria than we are being told by the mainstream media.


[SCG News] The REAL Reason Israel Attacked Syria


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE2kMWNJomo

[Wild Cobra]

[SCG News] The REAL Reason Israel Attacked Syria


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE2kMWNJomo

I'm sorry SA210, but that's the second time I started wa6ching that video, and the second time I stopped it then the idiot said "unprovoked."

[ChumpDumper]

I won't believe "news" from a "reporter" who won't give his name.

[Nbadan]

The SYRIAN QUESTION...


Tunisian Foreign Minister Othmane Jarandi told Agence France Presse on Saturday that some 800 Tunisians are fighting in Islamist rebel ranks in Syria and said the country would work to repatriate its citizens taken prisoner there.

"We don't have exact numbers, since several people left the country illegally, but the most accurate estimate is a maximum of 800," fighting in Syria, he said.

Tunis has been criticized by non-government organizations and the opposition since diplomatic relations with Damascus were severed in February 2011, and has been accused of abandoning Tunisians in Syria to their fate.

"The repatriation of Tunisians can be facilitated by the embassy in Lebanon after the government makes contact with the Syrian authorities about imprisoned Tunisian citizens," Jarandi said.

Read more: http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/82683-tunisia-fm-800-tunisian-islamists-fighting-in-syria

That right there is the bottom line in Syria, do we supply the Islamist war against Assad?

[RandomGuy]

It's time the rest of the world outside the Middle East banded together and built a huge wall around that region of the world, nothing comes in and only oil comes out. The world would be so much better off without having to deal with those primitive/barbaric lunatics.

Better yet, let the Chinese deal with it. They drive more cars than we do, why should we be subsidizing their oil consumption with our military?