How would the Lakers fare if they are healthy?

[StrengthAndHonor]

Just to play devils advocate. Lakers were 22-8 in their last 30 games, thats good for a .733% Winning percentage, pretty good. Dwight and Gasol were finding their rhythm, Kobe was shooting lights out. Jamison was playing like a man on mission. Blake found his rhythm and the return of Nash was supposed to give them another shooter and ball handler. They won 9 out of their last 10 going into the playoffs, it looked like they finally flicked that playoff switch.


The Spurs/ Lakers series is supposed to be the best in the playoffs, now we're all watching the Lakers disintegrate piece by piece which is both amusing and disappointing since we're robbed off a potential great series.



Would the outcome be any different? Or is it still going to be a sweep by the Spurs?


Sorry, I'm freaking bored as hell and all the playoff series has been ho-hum so far.

[Monster1776]

Just to play devils advocate. Lakers were 22-8 in their last 30 games, thats good for a .733% Winning percentage, pretty good. Dwight and Gasol were finding their rhythm, Kobe was shooting lights out. Jamison was playing like a man on mission. Blake found his rhythm and the return of Nash was supposed to give them another shooter and ball handler.


The Spurs/ Lakers series is supposed to be the best in the playoffs, now we're all watching the Lakers disintegrate piece by piece which is both amusing and disappointing since we're robbed off a potential great series.



Would the outcome be any different? Or is it still going to be a sweep by the Spurs?


Sorry, I'm freaking bored as hell and all the playoff series has been ho-hum so far.

I was wondering if it's just been me. The first round this year has sucked tremendously.

[Thebesteva]

Very hard question for me to answer, I think talent wise they definitely COULD beat SA but Greg Popovich owns Mike D'antoni. I really think D'antoni is that bad of a coach, but to be fair I was saying that since he got hired.

[StrengthAndHonor]

I was wondering if it's just been me. The first round this year has sucked tremendously.

No not at all. The playoffs blows so far. A lot of predictable outcome tbh.

Spurs to sweep the Lakers
Denver to beat GSW
Heat to sweep the Bucks
Atlanta and Indiana? Please...I'd rather watch River Monsters.
Chicago-NJ, yawn.
OKC- Houston. It had potential but the referees ruined it for me in Game 2


The only series I'm looking forward to watch besides LAC-MEM is NYK and Boston but the Celtics looks like they're done in 5 games.

[TDMVPDPOY]

a scrub steve blake is already giving parker trouble, a healthy blake would destroy the frenchie into fetus position ready for the **** punch abortion,

but it all depends on that dog of a **** kome if his willing to sacrifice personal stats for the greater goal to have team mates involve

lakers without that hero **** plays basketball the way its meant to be played....


spurs would still sweep the lakers anyway healthy or not

[HarlemHeat37]

The Lakers margin of victory in March and April was +1.2, with a well-documented, historic officiating advantage:lol..

I don't know why people think they "got it together"..they were barely winning most of these games, despite heavy officiating bias(which has been documented)..

[CitizenDwayne]

First round exit.

[Brunodf]

Healthy but without Kobe they would have a shot.

[Reck]

The Lakers margin of victory in March and April was +1.2, with a well-documented, historic officiating advantage:lol..

I don't know why people think they "got it together"..they were barely winning most of these games, despite heavy officiating bias(which has been documented)..

Thread/end.

[phyzik]

If the Lakers were completely and utterly healthy (including Kobe and Nash both at 100%), they might have pushed the spurs to 6 games. The problem is Mr. Pringles and no young talent on the Lakers bench. MDA would have Kobe, Nash, Pau and Dwight all playing as close to 48 minutes as possible... Dwight and maybe Pau might be able to handle that but certainly not Kobe or Nash... They would have won the first game, maybe even the second... but again, Mr. Pringles is the coach... The guy that loves a 7 man rotation... He would have worn them out and in the end the Spurs would take it either way.

MDA doesn't understand the basic concept of the playoffs.... its a war of attrition not of impact. He likes to blow his load early thinking to smash through, while the other team just needs to weather the initial storm and rope-a-dope the sucker.... he falls for it every single time.

[da_suns_fan]

I dont know but its starting to be reminiscent of the Rockets' "If McGrady and Yao ever get healthy..."

Older players are much more susceptible to injury. Odds are the simply wont get "healthy" and even if they do it wont last for long.

[DAF86]

No not at all. The playoffs blows so far. A lot of predictable outcome tbh.

Spurs to sweep the Lakers
Denver to beat GSW
Heat to sweep the Bucks
Atlanta and Indiana? Please...I'd rather watch River Monsters.
Chicago-NJ, yawn.
OKC- Houston. It had potential but the referees ruined it for me in Game 2


The only series I'm looking forward to watch besides LAC-MEM is NYK and Boston but the Celtics looks like they're done in 5 games.

You're overrating the Nuggets son.

Regarding the OP question. If both healthy, Spurs in 5 or 6.

[Baseline]

If they were healthy, Bryant would shoot the ball 30 times a game and score 29 points, then point fingers at everybody but himself when they lose.

[Killakobe81]

wgaf?!
They are not ...we gonna get swept Semifinals should be much better ..

All the barely got in teams: Rox, Lakers, Bucks, Hawks etc will be fishing

[Latarian Milton]

fact is they had to win those games to secure a playoff spot and the league would do everything to help them achieve that. shit's a fair sign of the game being manipulated imho

[100%duncan]

Still a sweep, tbh.

[DAF86]

You're overrating the Nuggets son.

Yep.

[Monster1776]

Yep.

Yup

[KaiRMD1]

I was wondering if it's just been me. The first round this year has sucked tremendously.

Warriors/Nuggets & Clippers/Grizzlies have been pretty damn entertaining actually.

[whitemamba]

we would win the championship. who the fuck cares we are not healthy, stupid ass thread

[midnightpulp]

we would win the championship. who the fuck cares we are not healthy, stupid ass thread

:lmao

[hater]

out in round 1

[Monster1776]

Warriors/Nuggets & Clippers/Grizzlies have been pretty damn entertaining actually.

When your success rate is 25% for entertaining games; it's not guck good.

[KaiRMD1]

When your success rate is 25% for entertaining games; it's not guck good.

Better than 0%, after all last year there weren't that many entertaining first round matchups aside from Lakers/Nuggets & clippers/Grizzlies

[Monster1776]

Better than 0%, after all last year there weren't that many entertaining first round matchups aside from Lakers/Nuggets & clippers/Grizzlies

Touché; damn the state of the league makes me depressed.

[spurraider21]

Spurs in 5

[KaiRMD1]

Touché; damn the state of the league makes me depressed.

That's what happens when you know who is making the finals before the f'n season starts. Okay that's a lie because everybody thought the Lakers were and well.......yeah

[Monster1776]

That's what happens when you know who is making the finals before the f'n season starts. Okay that's a lie because everybody thought the Lakers were and well.......yeah

Wouldnt you too if you dropped 10 mil on the supposed best big in the league that's the last true 5 combined with a historic ball handling genius that is Nash and the next best MJ in Kobe? Fuck the NBA is a joke, and not even a Cuban can lift my spirits. I'm off to bed.

[Mal]

Probably Kobe would put 10-15 point on Mills-DeColo duo, and Lakers would lose only by 13 or so.

[whitemamba]

:lmao


took the bait :lol

[Cry Havoc]

No not at all. The playoffs blows so far. A lot of predictable outcome tbh.

Spurs to sweep the Lakers
Denver to beat GSW
Heat to sweep the Bucks
Atlanta and Indiana? Please...I'd rather watch River Monsters.
Chicago-NJ, yawn.
OKC- Houston. It had potential but the referees ruined it for me in Game 2


The only series I'm looking forward to watch besides LAC-MEM is NYK and Boston but the Celtics looks like they're done in 5 games.

:lol :lol

[Cry Havoc]

we would win the championship. who the fuck cares we are not healthy, stupid ass thread

Winning the championship = pushing the Spurs to 6 games before getting knocked the fuck out. :lol

[whitemamba]

Winning the championship = pushing the Spurs to 6 games before getting knocked the fuck out. :lol

slayin bitches right now tbh

[DMC]

I dont know but its starting to be reminiscent of the Rockets' "If McGrady and Yao ever get healthy..."

Older players are much more susceptible to injury. Odds are the simply wont get "healthy" and even if they do it wont last for long.

You're a fucking idiot and a douchebag.

Older players aren't more susceptible to injury, they just take longer to recover.

[whitemamba]

You're a fucking idiot and a douchebag.

Older players aren't more susceptible to injury, they just take longer to recover.

lots of medical advancements now days, but i disagree, i think if you are older you are more susceptible to injury, its just nature, especially when you are working your body that hard for a long period of time, eventually its just the "wear and tear", only so much you can do.

[Latarian Milton]

22-8 is overrated, refs escorted their ass all the way through the process

[Arcadian]

The playoffs have been mostly boring so far, but there are two interesting series: Nuggets/Warriors and Clippers/Grizzlies. Since I'm a a Spurs fan, the Spurs/Lakers series has been very "interesting" to the extent that it's fun watching the Lakers crumble.

[da_suns_fan]

You're a fucking idiot and a douchebag.

Older players aren't more susceptible to injury, they just take longer to recover.

:lol

You truly are a moron.

[snickles]

Just to play devils advocate. Lakers were 22-8 in their last 30 games, thats good for a .733% Winning percentage, pretty good. Dwight and Gasol were finding their rhythm, Kobe was shooting lights out. Jamison was playing like a man on mission. Blake found his rhythm and the return of Nash was supposed to give them another shooter and ball handler. They won 9 out of their last 10 going into the playoffs, it looked like they finally flicked that playoff switch.


The Spurs/ Lakers series is supposed to be the best in the playoffs, now we're all watching the Lakers disintegrate piece by piece which is both amusing and disappointing since we're robbed off a potential great series.



Would the outcome be any different? Or is it still going to be a sweep by the Spurs?


Sorry, I'm freaking bored as hell and all the playoff series has been ho-hum so far.


all things being equal, i think the spurs still win. nash becomes a spot up shooter, 'antoni is still 'antoni, kobe is still kobe.

but i'm glad it played out like it did. if the lakers are able to keep the game close, something like .4 or the fisher no-call against barry starts to happen, and the tide turns.

usually i'd rather face a team at full strength. but karma has finally caught up to the lakers. an embarrassing meltdown on national tv is the perfect ending to the laker dynasty of the last decade.

[JamStone]

Healthy at the beginning of the playoffs, they still lose to the Spurs but likely put up more of a fight to push it to as many as 6 games.

But if they were completely healthy all season long, there may have been a chance for the team to gain the appropriate chemistry to be a better team by the playoffs. And maybe if they were healthy all season long, the front office would have figured out that Dwight Howard simply isn't the game changer they wanted and traded him at the deadline. A full 82 games where Nash, Kobe, Gasol, and the emergence of Earl Clark could have grown together under D'Antoni's system may have been something more interesting by the time of the playoffs.

[da_suns_fan]

You're a fucking idiot and a douchebag.

Older players aren't more susceptible to injury, they just take longer to recover.


Age and Sports Injuries
Another important issue for older athletes is that of injury. Statistically, older athletes are much more likely to injure themselves than younger athletes who are doing the same sport.

http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/content/aging/art2075.html

You can shut the fuck up forever now.

[Brazil]

Now that we know that the Spurs are fairly healthy see parker, tony and ginobili, manu. Outcome will be the same but in 5 or 6 if thunder were to fall twice at the same place.

[HarlemHeat37]

Healthy at the beginning of the playoffs, they still lose to the Spurs but likely put up more of a fight to push it to as many as 6 games.

But if they were completely healthy all season long, there may have been a chance for the team to gain the appropriate chemistry to be a better team by the playoffs. And maybe if they were healthy all season long, the front office would have figured out that Dwight Howard simply isn't the game changer they wanted and traded him at the deadline. A full 82 games where Nash, Kobe, Gasol, and the emergence of Earl Clark could have grown together under D'Antoni's system may have been something more interesting by the time of the playoffs.

A healthy Howard is absolutely a game-changer, tbh..

When he's healthy, he's by far the best defender and rebounder in the NBA, no other player is close..

[JamStone]

Not the gamechanger for the Lakers, especially once they hired D'Antoni.

[HarlemHeat37]

Sure, but if he's healthy to start the season, Lakers keep Mike Brown and a healthy Howard would thrive in his defensive, grind-out system, tbh..

A healthy Lakers team would have been the 5th best team in the West IMO, same tier as the Clippers and Grizzlies..

[maverick1948]

How would the Spurs fared in the second half of the season, if they had been healthy? Lakers 28-13 after gaining they health before losing it again. Spurs 28-13 with Timmy, TP and Manu missing games in the second half of the season. Also, Pop resting players. Lakers would have won a game or 2 if lucky in the 1st round, but they were not going to win the series.

[midnightpulp]

A healthy Howard is absolutely a game-changer, tbh..

When he's healthy, he's by far the best defender and rebounder in the NBA, no other player is close..

Torn labrum aside, I think Howard's back is healed and healthy.

I believe the surgery permanently took a few percentage points off his athleticism.

[midnightpulp]

How would the Spurs fared in the second half of the season, if they had been healthy? 28-13 after gaining they health before losing it again. Spurs 28-13 with Timmy, TP and Manu missing games in the second half of the season. Also, Pop resting players. Lakers would have won a game or 2 if lucky in the 1st round, but they were not going to win the series.

It was also the most unimpressive "28-13" I've seen in a long time. Lakers still looked like garbage, even when they were winning. They were very fortunate to play against few good teams during that span, not to mention all the teams they beat helmed by black coaches.

[spurraider21]

weren't the Lakers 8-14 when Dwight/Pau/Kobe/Nash all played?

[Brazil]

Age and Sports Injuries
Another important issue for older athletes is that of injury. Statistically, older athletes are much more likely to injure themselves than younger athletes who are doing the same sport.

http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/content/aging/art2075.html

You can shut the fuck up forever now.

:lmao #thedoctorwillseeyounow

[ohmwrecker]

I'll give Mamba 1 game vs. the Spurs.

[StrengthAndHonor]

With Kobe, Nash and Blake this series would go down as the best this year. I still think Spurs wins in 6 or even 7 but each game would go down the wire. Sad injuries has robbed us all from having a great playoffs.

[StrengthAndHonor]

:lol :lol

Jinx somehow worked on that one for sure.:lol

[DMC]

:lol

You truly are a moron.


Ive fired M16 in semi and 3 round burst mode when i was in the military, thanks. Revolvers have less moving parts than "semi automatic handguns" but theyre also considered "semi" as you dont have to manually put another bullet in the chamber.Fully automatic machine guns require no manual loading of the chamber or pulling the trigger for additional firings.

But again, I dont give a shit. Its just deflection.

Ban them all as far as I care.

[ElNono]

first round sweep