what will (should) ESPN do ?

[rjv]

regarding chris broussard's commentary on jason collin's decision to come out ?


"Personally, I don’t believe that you can live an openly homosexual lifestyle or an openly ... like premarital sex between heterosexuals. If you’re openly living that type of lifestyle, then the Bible says 'you know them by their fruits.' It says that, you know, that’s a sin,...And if you’re openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, not just homosexuality -- adultery, fornication, premarital sex between heterosexuals -- whatever it may be, I believe that’s walking in open rebellion to God and to Jesus Christ. So I would not characterize that person as a Christian because I don’t think the Bible would characterize them as a Christian."

collins had said
"I'm from a close-knit family. My parents instilled Christian values in me. They taught Sunday school, and I enjoyed lending a hand. I take the teachings of Jesus seriously, particularly the ones that touch on tolerance and understanding. On family trips, my parents made a point to expose us to new things, religious and cultural. In Utah, we visited the Mormon Salt Lake Temple. In Atlanta, the house of Martin Luther King Jr. That early exposure to otherness made me the guy who accepts everyone unconditionally."

broussard later stated on twitter:
Today on OTL, as part of a larger, wide-ranging discussion on today's news, I offered my personal opinion as it relates to Christianity, a point of view that I have expressed publicly before. I realize that some people disagree with my opinion and I accept and respect that. As has been the case in the past, my beliefs have not and will not impact my ability to report on the NBA. I believe Jason Collins displayed bravery with his announcement today and I have no objection to him or anyone else playing in the NBA.

espn later released this statement:
"We regret that a respectful discussion of personal viewpoints became a distraction from today’s news. ESPN is fully committed to diversity and welcomes Jason Collins’ announcement."

espn will be getting pressure from both sides either way (if they discipline broussard or if they fail to do so)

[boutons_deux]

Broussard is the typical Bible-thumping, hating "Christian" check-box robot, spewing knee-jerk hate. He probably thinks egg impregnated a hour ago is viable human being that can feel pain, and the Bible is a history and scientific textbook.

[coyotes_geek]

Not sure what the big deal here is. Referring to Broussard's comments obviously and not Collins' announcement which is a big deal. Broussard made it clear he was giving a personal opinion, acknowledged that some will disagree, and kept things respectful. I don't think ESPN will, or should, have to do anything.

[DarrinS]

Since what he said is now considered a hate crime, they have to fire him.

[Drachen]

nothing

[boutons_deux]

Broussard used his position as sports commentator to spew "Christian/Bible/Jesus" LGBT hate. fuck him. and fire him

[boutons_deux]

SCALIA NEVER GOING TO ANOTHER N.B.A. GAME


WASHINGTON — Justice Antonin Scalia disrupted the normally tranquil atmosphere of the Supreme Court today, bursting from his office to shout, “I’m never going to another damn N.B.A. game as long as I live!”

While it was unclear what, exactly, had provoked Justice Scalia’s outburst, one of his clerks said that “he saw something on ESPN that really upset him.”

After emerging from their offices to see the source of the commotion, the other Justices found a visibly agitated Justice Scalia, his face beet-red and his entire body shaking with rage.

“I’ve gone to basketball games my entire life,” he bellowed. “I always thought that was a ‘safe place.’ Well, I guess I was wrong. I guess I’ve been wrong about a lot of things, haven’t I? Haven’t I?”

As Justice Clarence Thomas wordlessly moved to comfort him, Justice Scalia rebuffed his fellow-juror.

“Get away from me, Clarence!” he screamed. “I can’t trust anyone anymore.”

?http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/04/scalia-never-going-to-another-nba-game.html?mbid=nl_Borowitz%20(114)

[Spurminator]

I'm not sure why ESPN personalities are pontificating about homosexuality as it relates to one's Christianity anyway. Forget Broussard, who the hell was producing this show and thought that would be an appropriate topic for a TV sports network to tackle?

I don't think anything will (or should) happen to Broussard. He answered a question on air.

[coyotes_geek]

Broussard used his position as sports commentator to spew "Christian/Bible/Jesus" LGBT hate. fuck him. and fire him

:cry I don't like someone's opinion. They should be fired! :cry

[DarrinS]

Broussard used his position as sports commentator to spew "Christian/Bible/Jesus" LGBT hate. fuck him. and fire him

Your wish will be granted.

[Blake]

in this case, ESPN should do whatever is in the best interest of ESPN.

[CosmicCowboy]

Whatever, Collins was smart to come out of the closet. Wizards are almost guaranteed to offer him a new contract now so they don't look like homophobes.

[InRareForm]

He should be fired for his stupidity and pretend breaking news alone, beforehand

[boutons_deux]

:cry I don't like someone's opinion. They should be fired! :cry

wrong.

I object to him abusing his SPORTS commentator to spew a totally unrelated opinion.

I would object to him saying "fuck all y'all ignorant "Christian" LGBT haters"

[Avante]

If you don't want an opinion then don't ask.

What's really funny and very real is how we are seeing two different worlds here. One is...."say the right thing"...the other is how people really feel about it. Yep, not unlike right here in hiding. If you were actually face to face with anyone here you'd talk totally different than you do hidden away. We are seeing that with this.

Donovan McNabb wanted to tell the truth, you could tell. So he jacked around trying to get around that truth. Nobody has the balls to tell it like it realy is and it is a bit comical to watch.

I played 20 years organized football, I guarantee a gay guy would have stood no chance out there and it's just like that right now and everyone knows it but just can't say it.

What does the crowd yell after their gay QB throws a game losing INT, yep!

It's draft day, a young guy gets picked number 7 in the first round he turns and kisses mom, hugged dad then kisses his boyfriend. Tell me that will work.

[coyotes_geek]

wrong.

I object to him abusing his SPORTS commentator to [COLOR=#000000]spew a totally unrelated opinion.

:cry I don't like sports commentators talking about topics I think are unrelated. They should be fired! :cry


I would object to him saying "fuck all y'all ignorant "Christian" LGBT haters"

No you wouldn't.

[thunderup]

Nothing should be done. However ignorant or intolerant his opinion is to some people, he was at the end of the day, offering his opinion when ESPN brought him on air to discuss the topic. It's a shame people can't speak their minds nowadays.

[scott]

ESPN are pussies, so they'll probably end up firing him.

What they should do, is nothing. Broussard stated his backwards-ass opinions in a respectful manner. People should be allowed to do share their opinions in a respectful manner, no matter how fucking stupid they are.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I played 20 years organized football.

sure you did

[TeyshaBlue]

:cry I don't like someone's opinion. They should be fired! :cry

:lol

[Avante]

sure you did

Well let's see...

4 years in high school (I'll ignore junior high)
4 years on a naval base team
12 years in a city league

....let's see....yep...20.

[boutons_deux]

Well let's see...

4 years in high school (I'll ignore junior high)
4 years on a naval base team
12 years in a city league

....let's see....yep...20.

Like risible dumbfuck REPUG Pres Ford, you must have played a lot of them without a helmet.

[Capt Bringdown]

Seems like a desperate attempt by ESPN to gain relevance/attention.

[Avante]

Like risible dumbfuck REPUG Pres Ford, you must have played a lot of them without a helmet.

Yes I did, actually 16 years of that, yep...flags.

Be cool little man, don't be a punk simply because people disagree with you, ok?

[ElNono]

Surprised a discussion about ESPN and ignorance doesn't include Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith, tbh :lol

[ElNono]

Also, if this would be happening to another sports network, what are the odds ESPN would run with the title:

"What would Kobe do?"

[baseline bum]

I'm not sure why ESPN personalities are pontificating about homosexuality as it relates to one's Christianity anyway. Forget Broussard, who the hell was producing this show and thought that would be an appropriate topic for a TV sports network to tackle?

I don't get this idea people have that sports should be apolitical, when they have always been extremely political.

[Avante]

The bottom line is if homosexuality wasn't a negative situation then why make announcements at all? Why ask anyones opinion about it at all? Who is talking about being heterosexuals, yep, nobody.

People in the media (like they get paid) can't talk openingly about this. They must say the right things. Well I don't.

Homosexuality can and should be tolerated. But....we don't need the parades. And they need to realize they simply can't do some things. Yep, pro football being one of them. It's just not suited for a gay athlete, plain and simple. Yes yes yes if asked his teammates will say all the right things but trust me they aren't thinking what they are bullshitting the media with.

Just have our gay basketballer hug and kiss on his gay lover a few times not unlike the others kissing/hugging their wives/girlfriends and watch what happenings.

It's like owning a pit bull, keep it chained...cool. You let it start roaming the neigborhood, problem.

[ChumpDumper]

lol f(l)ag football

[johnsmith]

Devils advocate here because I hate Broussard, but this is no different than Costas talking about gun control.

amirite?

[johnsmith]

The bottom line is if homosexuality wasn't a negative situation then why make announcements at all? Why ask anyones opinion about it at all? Who is talking about being heterosexuals, yep, nobody.

People in the media (like they get paid) can't talk openingly about this. They must say the right things. Well I don't.

Homosexuality can and should be tolerated. But....we don't need the parades. And they need to realize they simply can't do some things. Yep, pro football being one of them. It's just not suited for a gay athlete, plain and simple. Yes yes yes if asked his teammates will say all the right things but trust me they aren't thinking what they are bullshitting the media with.

Just have our gay basketballer hug and kiss on his gay lover a few times not unlike the others kissing/hugging their wives/girlfriends and watch what happenings.

It's like owning a pit bull, keep it chained...cool. You let it start roaming the neigborhood, problem.

Same with the blacks and the jews eh Avante?

[Avante]

Where are we seeing....I'm black...or...I'm a Jew...? Where are their parades?

[johnsmith]

Where are we seeing....I'm black...or...I'm a Jew...? Where are their parades?

:lmao

[clambake]

well lets see. the black parade is at the welfare office (behind wc, of course). the jew parade is in the nations capitol.

[CosmicCowboy]

Avante is callin it straight. May not be politically correct but It's gonna be tough for a gay guy in a football locker room.

[ChumpDumper]

Devils advocate here because I hate Broussard, but this is no different than Costas talking about gun control.

amirite?Right.

Avante's argument is hilarious. Gays can't play football because homophobes might get upset.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Broussard was acting like a christian... by passing judgement on another christian..Broussard showed us what a true christian is..

[johnsmith]

Avante is callin it straight. May not be politically correct but It's gonna be tough for a gay guy in a football locker room.

Sure, but Avante also is terrified of the gays. So it makes it more interesting.

[ChumpDumper]

Where are we seeing....I'm black...or...I'm a Jew...? Where are their parades?

http://media.commercialappeal.com/media/img/photos/2012/01/16/mbking1_t607.JPG

http://celebrateisraelny.org/wp-content/themes/celebrate/images/bannerimg.jpg

[johnsmith]

http://media.commercialappeal.com/media/img/photos/2012/01/16/mbking1_t607.JPG

http://celebrateisraelny.org/wp-content/themes/celebrate/images/bannerimg.jpg

Must be in Europe or something. No way do those things go on here in America, there would be no room because of all the gay pride parades always going on.

[George Gervin's Afro]

http://media.commercialappeal.com/media/img/photos/2012/01/16/mbking1_t607.JPG

http://celebrateisraelny.org/wp-content/themes/celebrate/images/bannerimg.jpg

well they shouldn't put it in our faces.. what if a black person wanted to kiss another black person? They better not do it in public..

[Halberto]

Broussard used his position as sports commentator to spew "Christian/Bible/Jesus" LGBT hate. fuck him. and fire him


Tolerance, it's clearly not understood in your case. I'm an athiest and not even I was offended by what he said. He said nothing hateful, nor discriminatory at all. You can't even read someone else's opinion without fierce judgement, how are you any better than the people you so vehemently despise?

[Blake]

The bottom line is if homosexuality wasn't a negative situation then why make announcements at all? Why ask anyones opinion about it at all? Who is talking about being heterosexuals, yep, nobody.

People in the media (like they get paid) can't talk openingly about this. They must say the right things. Well I don't.

Homosexuality can and should be tolerated. But....we don't need the parades. And they need to realize they simply can't do some things. Yep, pro football being one of them. It's just not suited for a gay athlete, plain and simple. Yes yes yes if asked his teammates will say all the right things but trust me they aren't thinking what they are bullshitting the media with.

Just have our gay basketballer hug and kiss on his gay lover a few times not unlike the others kissing/hugging their wives/girlfriends and watch what happenings.

wow, you are making it rain today with dumbfuck posts. You're en fuego.



It's like owning a pit bull, keep it chained...cool. You let it start roaming the neigborhood, problem.

Actually, any dog roaming the neighborhood is a potential problem.

Entertainment value higher than norm. Keep making it rain. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Avante prefers his gays in chains.

Kinky.

[TeyshaBlue]

Tolerance, it's clearly not understood in your case. I'm an athiest and not even I was offended by what he said. He said nothing hateful, nor discriminatory at all. You can't even read someone else's opinion without fierce judgement, how are you any better than the people you so vehemently despise?

/thread

[Avante]

Right.

Avante's argument is hilarious. Gays can't play football because homophobes might get upset.


There is no argument, a known gay guy on an NFL football field will not work. You do know what happens if he fucks up, right?

Team functions with our gay player and his lover, yeah right that'll work.

[TeyshaBlue]

There is no argument, a known gay guy on an NFL football field will not work. You do know what happens if he fucks up, right?

You do?

And how would you know this, again?

[Avante]

Avante prefers his gays in chains.

Kinky.

You do work at being stupid don't you?

[ChumpDumper]

There is no argument, a known gay guy on an NFL football field will not work. You do know what happens if he fucks up, right?What?


Team functions with our gay player and his lover, yeah right that'll work.What team functions?

[TeyshaBlue]

I'm sure you're going to point to personal experience.

That's not particularly helpful.

[Avante]

You do?

And how would you know this, again?

We all know this, are you saying you don't? Tell me why do gays need to hide at all, well? Why are we even talking about this, well?

[TeyshaBlue]

I guess as the son of a coach for 50 years doesn't count much as experiential data is concerned. But, my data set is pretty inconclusive as to what might happen to a gay football player. I'm not sure how your data set of completely experential (and I'm being kind here) data is any better.

[Avante]

What?

What team functions?

You asked.

Crowd...you fucking queer!!!!!!

Teammates...that fucking queer!!!!!!!!

You disagree?

[TeyshaBlue]

We all know this, are you saying you don't? Tell me why do gays need to hide at all, well? Why are we even talking about this, well?

Do blacks need to hide anymore?

Things change, Avante.

[TeyshaBlue]

Even if you cant.

[Avante]

I guess as the son of a coach for 50 years doesn't count much as experiential data is concerned. But, my data set is pretty inconclusive as to what might happen to a gay football player. I'm not sure how your data set of completely experential (and I'm being kind here) data is any better.

So where are our known gay coaches? What school would hire one?

[TeyshaBlue]

So where are our known gay coaches? What school would hire one?

Gay coaches, now? Nice goal post move.

*pun completely intended.

[ChumpDumper]

You asked.

Crowd...you fucking queer!!!!!!

Teammates...that fucking queer!!!!!!!!

You disagree?They do that to straight athletes. So far you have demonstrated there will be no difference.

[Avante]

Do blacks need to hide anymore?

Things change, Avante.

So why are we still talking about this today?

[TeyshaBlue]

So why are we still talking about this today?

Because, some people are slow.

[Avante]

Gay coaches, now? Nice goal post move.

*pun completely intended.

Answer the question would a dad let his son play for a gay coach, well?

[ChumpDumper]

So why are we still talking about this today?Why are we not talking about excluding blacks anymore?

[TeyshaBlue]

Answer the question would a dad llet is son play for a gay coach, well?

I would. Next question.

[TeyshaBlue]

And that's a pretty retarded question, Avante.

[Avante]

Why are we not talking about excluding blacks anymore?

Dude, what are you "trying" to say? You do know that a gay player in the NFL wouldn't make it....right?

[TeyshaBlue]

We all know this, are you saying you don't? Tell me why do gays need to hide at all, well? Why are we even talking about this, well?


And how would you know this, again?

[Avante]

And that's a pretty retarded question, Avante.

One minute you tell me how times have changed now that's a retarded question? What it is is reality, you know as well as I do no dad is letting his son play for a gay coach, so why the games?

[ChumpDumper]

Dude, what are you "trying" to say?Answer the question.
You do know that a gay player in the NFL wouldn't make it....right?No, no one knows that. You have your biases that lead you to your conclusion, but it doesn't mean you are correct.

[TeyshaBlue]

Dude, what are you "trying" to say? You do know that a gay player in the NFL wouldn't make it....right?

Actually, we don't know this. We can speculate based upon our particular worldviews and prejudices, I suppose.

[TeyshaBlue]

Whoa...just cloned Chump. lol

[Avante]

Answer the question.No, no one knows that. You have your biases that lead you to your conclusion, but it doesn't mean you are correct.

Dude, we all know it wouldn't work. You don't?

[TeyshaBlue]

One minute you tell me how times have changed now that's a retarded question? What it is is reality, you know as well as I do no dad is letting his son play for a gay coach, so why the games?

I just told you I would have no problem with it. That's a particular reality you seem to ignore.

[clambake]

put on some of teysha's music and chill.

[Avante]

Actually, we don't know this. We can speculate based upon our particular worldviews and prejudices, I suppose.

Try common sense.

[TeyshaBlue]

Dude, we all know it wouldn't work. You don't?


And how would you know this, again?

[TeyshaBlue]

Try common sense.

I'm soaking in it. I dont have the problems you seem to. Might want to try some yourself, little fella.

[TeyshaBlue]

put on some of teysha's music and chill.

lol...I read that as music and chili. Now I'm hungry. Thanks Obama!!!111

[Avante]

I just told you I would have no problem with it. That's a particular reality you seem to ignore.

Do you really think any school would hire a gay coach?

[Homeland Security]

For Broussard to get fired based on one statement, his comments would have had to have been out-of-the-blue crazy shit like calling RGIII a "cornball brotha" for dating a white woman. Since he's black, he warrants a little extra forbearance from ESPN because greivance groups are involved on both sides and they have to be sensitive to that. If Merrill Hoge says something like that, you just drag him out in the parking lot, shoot him, and dump the body.

[ChumpDumper]

Dude, we all know it wouldn't work. You don't?How do you know this?

"Homophobes will get upset" isn't really an argument. He'll be called names -- then what?

[TeyshaBlue]

Do you really think any school would hire a gay coach?

I think so, yes. I don't have a factual basis for that opinion other than my particular worldview. But, knowing plenty of gay educators, I'd say yeah, it's possible.

[Blake]

They do that to straight athletes. So far you have demonstrated there will be no difference.

Yeah, but gays can't handle mean words like straights can.

I saw this on an episode of the Office. It has to be true.

[Avante]

I'm soaking in it. I dont have the problems you seem to. Might want to try some yourself, little fella.

I don't have a problem I just have this thing about reality.

Now be honest.

The Superbowl is over, our winnig QB runs over and gives his gay lover a big hug and kiss, yeo, in front of the world.

Now tell me what would the reaction be? How about...OH YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TeyshaBlue]

I think so, yes. I don't have a factual basis for that opinion other than my particular worldview. But, knowing plenty of gay educators, I'd say yeah, it's possible.
And as time passes and society continues to evolve toward secular humanism, I'd say it approaches certainty.

[TeyshaBlue]

I don't have a problem I just have this thing about reaslity.

Now be honest.

The Superbowl is over, our winnIg QB runs over and gives his gay lover a big hug and kiss, yeo, in front of the world.

Now tell me what would the reaction be? How about...OH YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol hypothetical fears. I'll wait and see what happens.

[coyotes_geek]

One minute you tell me how times have changed now that's a retarded question? What it is is reality, you know as well as I do no dad is letting his son play for a gay coach, so why the games?

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that the first coach to come out will have enough players to field a team.

[TeyshaBlue]

...and his name will be coyotes_geek.

[Blake]

Do you really think any school would hire a gay coach?

I haven't looked it up, but I'll go out on a limb and say there is at least one gay, college sport coach.

I'll take any wager on it, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you really think any school would hire a gay coach?Already happened like 20 years ago. Should be in one of your almanacs tbh.

[Avante]

lol hypothetical fears. I'll wait and see what happens.

Why not just be honest about it? You know what the reaction would be, so save the....times are a changin;...crap.

[TeyshaBlue]

I haven't looked it up, but I'll go out on a limb and say there is at least one gay, college sport coach.

I'll take any wager on it, tbh.

*hint. Kirk Walker, Oregon State*

[ChumpDumper]

I don't have a problem I just have this thing about reality.

Now be honest.

The Superbowl is over, our winnig QB runs over and gives his gay lover a big hug and kiss, yeo, in front of the world.

Now tell me what would the reaction be? How about...OH YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!That would be your reaction. As long as there's no tongue or anything, it's just not as big a deal for other people as it is to you.

[Avante]

I haven't looked it up, but I'll go out on a limb and say there is at least one gay, college sport coach.

I'll take any wager on it, tbh.

So how soon before we see a gay coach in the SEC/NFL. Remember times are changing.

[Blake]

I don't have a problem I just have this thing about reality.

Now be honest.

The Superbowl is over, our winnig QB runs over and gives his gay lover a big hug and kiss, yeo, in front of the world.

Now tell me what would the reaction be? How about...OH YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what if he is also a young Muslim on a suicide mission?

Ohhhhh fuck!!!!!!!!!!

[coyotes_geek]

...and his name will be coyotes_geek.

I would never let my son play for a coach named coyotes_geek. :)

[Avante]

That would be your reaction. As long as there's no tongue or anything, it's just not as big a deal for other people as it is to you.

Bullshit!!!!!!!!!

[TeyshaBlue]

Why not just be honest about it? You know what the reaction would be, so save the....times are a changin;...crap.

No, actually I don't claim to be prescient. That seems to be your hangup...aside from your apparent inability to change with the times.

[TeyshaBlue]

I would never let my son play for a coach named coyotes_geek. :)

Probably a wise move. Add anyone that drives an old LTD to that list.

[Avante]

what if he is also a young Muslim on a suicide mission?

Ohhhhh fuck!!!!!!!!!!

A gay coach in Saudia Arabia, hmmm?

[Blake]

Already happened like 20 years ago. Should be in one of your almanacs tbh.

His almanacs aren't that recent

[Blake]

A gay coach in Saudia Arabia, hmmm?

A gay Muslim in America!

The combo terror!

[Avante]

No, actually I don't claim to be prescient. That seems to be your hangup...aside from your apparent inability to change with the times.

So why do you keep ignoring my questions about homosexuality today?

Give me a real answer ok?

Would an NFL draft a gay QB?

[TeyshaBlue]

A gay Muslim in America!

The combo terror!
If he's a Republican, you have the trifecta.

[coyotes_geek]

Probably a wise move. Add anyone that drives an old LTD to that list.

Especially not these people.

http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Ford/1980_Ford/1980_Ford_LTD_Brochure/1980%20Ford%20LTD-01.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

So how soon before we see a gay coach in the SEC/NFL. Remember times are changing.Will be awhile.


Bullshit!!!!!!!!!Seriously, as much as you wish they would or want to force them to, not everyone thinks or reacts the same as you.

[TeyshaBlue]

A gay Muslim in America!

The combo terror!
If he's a Republican, you have the trifecta.

[Avante]

His almanacs aren't that recent

Do you know what an almanac is?

[TeyshaBlue]

Especially not these people.

http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Ford/1980_Ford/1980_Ford_LTD_Brochure/1980%20Ford%20LTD-01.jpg

Beautiful!

"Hi, beautiful. Let's take the Ford tonight."

[ChumpDumper]

So why do you keep ignoring my questions about homosexuality today?

Give me a real answer ok?

Would an NFL draft a gay QB?If that guy was a good quarterback, hell yes.

[Avante]

Will be awhile.

Seriously, as much as you wish they would or want to force them to, not everyone thinks or reacts the same as you.

So then why will it take awhile and how come we've never seen one? Remember it's just me.

[coyotes_geek]

Beautiful!

"Hi, beautiful. Let's take the Ford tonight."

Good call. That Rolls is a P.O.S.

[Avante]

If that guy was a good quarterback, hell yes.

You live in a fantasy world slick. That has to be the dumbest thing you've sai........ah....close anyway.

[TeyshaBlue]

So then why will it take awhile and how come we've never seen one? Remember it's just me.

Because, there are other slow people besides yourself.

[Avante]

A gay Muslim in America!

The combo terror!

Can you be both?

[TeyshaBlue]

and lo fucking l @ the SEC goal post move. Genius.

[TeyshaBlue]

and lo fucking l @ the SEC goal post move. Genius.

And by genius, I mean fucking retarded.

[Avante]

Because, there are other slow people besides yourself.

Slow like in multibillionaires who own NFL franchises? Slow like in those who run our education system?

So how long before we have a gay president and the first gentleman?

[Avante]

And by genius, I mean fucking retarded.

Fucking retarded is thinking people will put up with homosexuals on their team. You honestly don't get it at all do you?

[ChumpDumper]

So then why will it take awhile and how come we've never seen one? Remember it's just me.Same reason we didn't see blacks in the majors for 60 years until Jackie Robinson.


You live in a fantasy world slick. That has to be the dumbest thing you've sai........ah....close anyway.If RGIII came out after winning the Heisman, he would have still been drafted. That would have been enough to break that barrier very quickly.

[ChumpDumper]

So then why will it take awhile and how come we've never seen one? Remember it's just me.Same reason we didn't see blacks in the majors for 60 years until Jackie Robinson.


You live in a fantasy world slick. That has to be the dumbest thing you've sai........ah....close anyway.If RGIII came out after winning the Heisman, he would have still been drafted. That would have been enough to break that barrier very quickly.

[DisAsTerBot]

Slow like in multibillionaires who own NFL franchises?

really old white guys? yep

[ChumpDumper]

So how long before we have a gay president and the first gentleman?There's a fair amount of evidence there has already been a gay president.

[Avante]

Same reason we didn't see blacks in the majors for 60 years until Jackie Robinson.

If RGIII came out after winning the Heisman, he would have still been drafted. That would have been enough to break that barrier very quickly.

Gays have been around as long as blacks, so why are they still in hiding? Why is it taking so damn long?

I don't think RGIII would have been drafted if he'd came out. Won't argue that one however.

[Blake]

If he's a Republican, you have the trifecta.

The fundamental paradoxes of that trifecta are too much to wrap my head around

[TeyshaBlue]

Fucking retarded is thinking people will put up with homosexuals on their team. You honestly don't get it at all do you?

Fucking retarded is thinking most people share your prejudices. You honestly don't get it at all do you?

[TeyshaBlue]

Slow like in multibillionaires who own NFL franchises? Slow like in those who run our education system?

So how long before we have a gay president and the first gentleman?

Fair amount of gay people in the education system. Try again.

Gay president? Probably in my lifetime.

[Avante]

really old white guys? yep

You mean those who know how to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?

[ChumpDumper]

Gays have been around as long as blacks, so why are they still in hiding? Why is it taking so damn long?People like you tbh.


I don't think RGIII would have been drafted if he'd came out. Won't argue that one however.You just did.

[TeyshaBlue]

lol. All gay people are poor.

[Blake]

Can you be both?

I haven't looked it up, but I'm going to say yes.

[ChumpDumper]

You mean those who know how to make $$$$$$$$$$$$?Would you like a list of gays who make more money than you?

[TeyshaBlue]

Avante is like a black hole of vapidity.

[Avante]

Fair amount of gay people in the education system. Try again.

Gay president? Probably in my lifetime.

Dude, I had a suspicion you were way out there, you just proved it. We will never have a gay president and his husband in the White House. That tells me right there you are a not from this planet.

[Avante]

People like you tbh.

You just did.

You mean most people.

[Avante]

Avante is like a black hole of vapidity.

You don't get out much do you?

[TeyshaBlue]

lol @ suspicion. From someone who shows a pathological inability to be incorrect, I'm not too worried about your suspicions. http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

[ChumpDumper]

You mean most people.Hey, most people wanted blacks out of major league baseball too.

[TeyshaBlue]

You don't get out much do you?

You couldn't admit it if I did.

[Blake]

Fucking retarded is thinking people will put up with homosexuals on their team. You honestly don't get it at all do you?

Retarded is thinking a player would put up with playing with straight players that suck over gay players that dominate their sport.

Pretty sure Bible belt Baylor is not forfeiting their women's championship title after hearing their best player is gay.

I'd say the odds are extremely high they knew she was gay during her playing days.

[Avante]

Would you like a list of gays who make more money than you?

No just a list of those gays who coach NFL, Pac12, Big12, ACC, WAC, SWAC, Big East, SEC, Big10, MEAC, NBA, MLB teams.

[Big Empty]

So which one of you are going to come out of the closet on ST?

[ChumpDumper]

No just a list of those gays who coach NFL, Pac12, Big12, ACC, WAC, SWAC, Big East, SEC, Big10, MEAC, NBA, MLB teams.lol

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7fyG2TcUNUg/TiVuGtyggsI/AAAAAAAAGNQ/uDbKNivUPGU/s1600/goalposts.jpg

[Avante]

Hey, most people wanted blacks out of major league baseball too.

So why is it taking the gays so long to get respect and acceptance?

[TeyshaBlue]

coyotes_geek for certain.

[TeyshaBlue]

So why is it taking the gays so long to get respect and acceptance?

Easy. Alot of people share your "common sense".

ie...they're slow.

[ChumpDumper]

So why is it taking the gays so long to get respect and acceptance?I told you: people like you.

[Avante]

Retarded is thinking a player would put up with playing with straight players that suck over gay players that dominate their sport.

Pretty sure Bible belt Baylor is not forfeiting their women's championship title after hearing their best player is gay.

I'd say the odds are extremely high they knew she was gay during her playing days.

That bit about football...stupid.

So when Baylor recruited her did they know she was gay? Nope! And we don't know anymore than that.

[ChumpDumper]

So when Baylor recruited her did they know she was gay? Nope! And we don't know anymore than that.We don't even know that tbh.

[Blake]

So why is it taking the gays so long to get respect and acceptance?

You don't get out much

[Avante]

I told you: people like you.

How can...people like me....have so much power? Could it be ...people like you...are rare?

[coyotes_geek]

That bit about football...stupid.

So when Baylor recruited her did they know she was gay? Nope! And we don't know anymore than that.

Can we go over the part where "we" know that Baylor didn't know she was gay when they recruited her again? Because I'm not sure we know that.

[Avante]

There's a fair amount of evidence there has already been a gay president.


Dude, dude, dude...wow!

Talking about a ...known....gay president, ok?

The obvious totally fucks you over doesn't it?

[ChumpDumper]

How can...people like me....have so much power? Could it be ...people like you...are rare?Abolitionists were rare at one time as well.

Civil rights activists were rare at one time as well.

You would have been the guy arguing against Jackie Robinson's playing in the majors. Those guys had power at one time.

[Avante]

You don't get out much

Enought to know nobody around here wants to see two guys walking down the street hand in hand. And enought to know if one of our rookie drafties had of kissed his boyfriend on national TV we;'d be talking about that instead of this.

[ChumpDumper]

Dude, dude, dude...wow!

Talking about a ...known....gay president, ok?

The obvious totally fucks you over doesn't it?Yes, it's obvious you move the goalposts every time you lose an argument.

[Avante]

Abolitionists were rare at one time as well.

Civil rights activists were rare at one time as well.

You would have been the guy arguing against Jackie Robinson's playing in the majors. Those guys had power at one time.

Knowing what I know about the black athlete and you say that stupid shit? I'd be looking to weed the white player out, give me that speed.

Can't believe you said that.

[ChumpDumper]

Enought to know nobody around here wants to see two guys walking down the street hand in hand. And enought to know if one of our rookie drafties had of kissed his boyfriend on national TV we;'d be talking about that instead of this.Why would you be talking about it?

[Blake]

That bit about football...stupid.

So when Baylor recruited her did they know she was gay? Nope! And we don't know anymore than that.

We know Baylor has not condemned her.

We also know that Baylor will continue to honor her.

[Blake]

That bit about football...stupid.

So when Baylor recruited her did they know she was gay? Nope! And we don't know anymore than that.

We know Baylor has not condemned her.

We also know that Baylor will continue to honor her.

[Avante]

Yes, it's obvious you move the goalposts every time you lose an argument.

Come on man, don't play stupid-er. Did you honestly think anyone was talking about a gay in hiding, come on dude, sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChumpDumper]

Knowing what I know about the black athlete and you say that stupid shit? I'd be looking to weed the white player out, give me that speed.

Can't believe you said that.Of course you would act that way -- your reasons for excluding gays had nothing to do with actual performance at all -- those were the same arguments used against blacks in the day.

It's not my fault your arguments are pretty stupid at the core.

[Avante]

Why would you be talking about it?

We'd all be talking about. The media would have ran with it. You really don't know this?

[ChumpDumper]

Come on man, don't play stupid-er. Did you honestly think anyone was talking about a gay in hiding, come on dude, sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Since there have been at least two gay NBA players who played a combined 17 seasons without incident, that negates most of the homophobe arguments against having a gay on the team.

You're left with Avante's "people like me will be homophobes" argument.

[Avante]

Of course you would act that way -- your reasons for excluding gays had nothing to do with actual performance at all -- those were the same arguments used against blacks in the day.

It's not my fault your arguments are pretty stupid at the core.

Dude, one minute I;m the guy who wanted Robinson out the next, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you think at all before posting? Slow down, concentrate..ok?

[TeyshaBlue]

Knowing what I know about the black athlete and you say that stupid shit? I'd be looking to weed the white player out, give me that speed.

Can't believe you said that.

lol @ the expert on stupid shit.

[ChumpDumper]

We'd all be talking about. The media would have ran with it. You really don't know this?Answer the question: Why would you be talking about it?

[TeyshaBlue]

Dude, one minute I;m the guy who wanted Robinson out the next, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you think at all before posting? Slow down, concentrate..ok?

You're the guy rehashing the arguments used against Robinson and re purposing them in your quest to exclude gays. You do the math.

[Avante]

Since there have been at least two gay NBA players who played a combined 17 seasons without incident, that negates most of the homophobe arguments against having a gay on the team.

You're left with Avante's "people like me will be homophobes" argument.

How do we know...without incident...?

And I am talking football as far as gay players go.

[ChumpDumper]

Dude, one minute I;m the guy who wanted Robinson out the next, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You would have back then, because you're just a follower when it comes right down to it, and that is more important to you than perfromance. No big deal.

[TeyshaBlue]

It's hilarious that you are the only poster in this thread that holds the view that you do. Yet somehow, everyone else is the aberration. Good luck with that line of reasoning.

[CosmicCowboy]

When I played football the reward for missing a block in practice was to play the part of the queer in "smear the queer".

[Avante]

Answer the question: Why would you be talking about it?

Didn't I say....OH YUCK...already? You honestly think nothing would have been made about a new NFLer kissing his boyfriend?

[ChumpDumper]

How do we know...without incident...?Ok, show me an incident.


And I am talking football as far as gay players go.There have been gay players in the NFL too. Check your almanac.

[ChumpDumper]

Didn't I say....OH YUCK...already? You honestly think nothing would have been made about a new NFLer kissing his boyfriend?Thank you for repeating your argument that has nothing to do with performance in actual sport. :tu

[Oh, Gee!!]

flag football has a way of changing a man

[Avante]

You would have back then, because you're just a follower when it comes right down to it, and that is more important to you than perfromance. No big deal.

You haven't noticed by now I don't play along/follow worth a damn? I take on whole boards all the time, a follower, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jackie's older brother was an Olympic sprinter, the negro leagues had all that speed. Edie Tolan, Jesse Owens, Ralph Metcalfe, Harrison Dillard were the fastest humans on earth, trust me slick, I;m all for the black player.

[Avante]

Thank you for repeating your argument that has nothing to do with performance in actual sport. :tu


Does this basketballer coming out have anything to do with actual sport?

[ChumpDumper]

You haven't noticed by now I don't play along/follow worth a damn? I take on whole boards all the time, a follower, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jackie's older brother was an Olympic sprinter, the negro leagues had all that speed. Edie Tolan, Jesse Owens, Ralph Metcalfe, Harrison Dillard were the fastest humans on earth, trust me slick, I;m all for the black player.You simply wouldn't have been back then. All the heavy lifting had been done by people better than you.

[ChumpDumper]

Does this basketballer coming out have anything to do with actual sport?No, and that's precisely the point.

Not that you are ever going to understand it.

[Avante]

Ok, show me an incident.

There have been gay players in the NFL too. Check your almanac.

Like talking to a little kid.

Give me the name of an NFLer where it was a known fact he was gay while he was active.

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IN HIDING...OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TeyshaBlue]

Does this basketballer coming out have anything to do with actual sport?

Incredible. Bouton-esque in both breathless vapidity and bovine incomprehension.

[Avante]

You simply wouldn't have been back then. All the heavy lifting had been done by people better than you.

Dude, you're an idiot!

[ChumpDumper]

Like talking to a little kid.

Give me the name of an NFLer where it was a known fact he was gay while he was active.

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IN HIDING...OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Why does that make such a difference to you?

Oh, that's right -- it's not about performance. It's all about you.

[Avante]

Incredible. Bouton-esque in both breathless vapidity and bovine incomprehension.

So tell me slick why is this news at all? When did you annouce....I'm Straight...? Why do we need to know who is gay? Remember times are changing yet being gay is news, why?

[Avante]

Why does that make such a difference to you?

Oh, that's right -- it's not about performance. It's all about you.

Dude, who was the NFLer where everyone knew he was gay during his playing days, well? Answer the fucking question, ok?

[CosmicCowboy]

I think we all know that a superstar franchise type talent could probably get away with coming out in the NFL...but role players? All other things being equal the gay role player will get cut every time IMHO. Football locker rooms are still a little behind the times in being PC.

[ChumpDumper]

Dude, who was the NFLer where everyone knew he was gay during his playing days, well? Answer the fucking question, ok?You didn't answer my question: Why does it make such a difference to you if they are out or not?

[coyotes_geek]

I think we all know that a superstar franchise type talent could probably get away with coming out in the NFL...but role players? All other things being equal the gay role player will get cut every time IMHO. Football locker rooms are still a little behind the times in being PC.

At the moment, probably a true statement. Hopefully Collins' announcement is a step away from that.

[TeyshaBlue]

Like talking to a little kid.

Give me the name of an NFLer where it was a known fact he was gay while he was active.

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IN HIDING...OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently, we'll be experiencing this rather soon. I predict there will be more outings in the NBA and NFL.

[CosmicCowboy]

At the moment, probably a true statement. Hopefully Collins' announcement is a step away from that.

Collins announcement was smart like a fox. That's a classic case of an average aging role player who was about to have a very iffy free agency this summer. Now, with the media focused on Collins Washington will look like neanderthal homophobes if they don't offer Collins a new contract.

[TeyshaBlue]

So tell me slick why is this news at all? When did you annouce....I'm Straight...? Why do we need to know who is gay? Remember times are changing yet being gay is news, why?

See various responses with the text "slow people" and "prejudice". You'll find yourself in that pool.

lol @ why, why, why.

[TeyshaBlue]

Collins announcement was smart like a fox. That's a classic case of an average aging role player who was about to have a very iffy free agency this summer. Now, with the media focused on Collins Washington will look like neanderthal homophobes if they don't offer Collins a new contract.

Troof. Instant relevance.

[ChumpDumper]

Collins announcement was smart like a fox. That's a classic case of an average aging role player who was about to have a very iffy free agency this summer. Now, with the media focused on Collins Washington will look like neanderthal homophobes if they don't offer Collins a new contract.Nah, dude only played six games for them; they have all kinds of plausible deniability. Will be interesting if anyone gives him a contract.

[ChumpDumper]

Apparently, we'll be experiencing this rather soon. I predict there will be more outings in the NBA and NFL.I just read that an out MLB player invented the high five. :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

I just read that an out MLB player invented the high five. :lol

:lmao

[Drachen]

One minute you tell me how times have changed now that's a retarded question? What it is is reality, you know as well as I do no dad is letting his son play for a gay coach, so why the games?

I don't have any problem with this. I am a dad of one (two in a month) son(s).

[CosmicCowboy]

Nah, dude only played six games for them; they have all kinds of plausible deniability. Will be interesting if anyone gives him a contract.

I still say it puts them in a bad situation. They liked him enough to pick him up when they thought he was straight. If they don't make an offer some in the media will definitely blame it on homo discrimination.

[Drachen]

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that the first coach to come out will have enough players to field a team.

But which team will they be playing for :wink

[ChumpDumper]

I still say it puts them in a bad situation. They liked him enough to pick him up when they thought he was straight. If they don't make an offer some in the media will definitely blame it on homo discrimination.Eh, he was a throw in on a trade. They really didn't have to like him for that.

[Blake]

When I played football the reward for missing a block in practice was to play the part of the queer in "smear the queer".

You missed blocks on purpose, didn't you.

Lol reward

[TeyshaBlue]

I don't have any problem with this. I am a dad of one (two in a month) son(s).

Me either, and I've got a platoon of sons. lol

[coyotes_geek]

Collins announcement was smart like a fox. That's a classic case of an average aging role player who was about to have a very iffy free agency this summer. Now, with the media focused on Collins Washington will look like neanderthal homophobes if they don't offer Collins a new contract.

Maybe that's his motivation, maybe it isn't. I tend to think it isn't. I just don't see a Stanford grad who's already made 12 years of NBA money being that desparate for a new contract to where he'd be willing to put himself under such a huge microscope solely for the purpose of getting to make league minimum for another year or two. If he gets a contract he still has to walk into that locker room, he's still got to walk into an arena every game and listen to what the fans say. I think he's genuine in his motives.

[TeyshaBlue]

But which team will they be playing for :wink

*rimshot**


*unintentional pun. 15 yard penalty. loss of down.*

[Drachen]

really old white guys? yep

Really old white guys generally like the color green, so if there was a gay QB who was really good, I am pretty sure that they would draft that man as an attempt to have a much better than average chance at ~10% of the population buying that jersey.

[Drachen]

Would you like a list of gays who make more money than you?

I dont think spurstalk has enough server space.

[coyotes_geek]

But which team will they be playing for :wink

The one that scores? :)

[TeyshaBlue]

Maybe that's his motivation, maybe it isn't. I tend to think it isn't. I just don't see a Stanford grad who's already made 12 years of NBA money being that desparate for a new contract to where he'd be willing to put himself under such a huge microscope solely for the purpose of getting to make league minimum for another year or two. If he gets a contract he still has to walk into that locker room, he's still got to walk into an arena every game and listen to what the fans say.

maybe, but he's also been a product of marketing for those 12 years. He's likely got a little horse-sense regarding his exposure and to think that there's some monetization to coming out is not completely out there.

[TeyshaBlue]

The one that scores? :)

You two need to calm down.

[Drachen]

Retarded is thinking a player would put up with playing with straight players that suck over gay players that dominate their sport.

Pretty sure Bible belt Baylor is not forfeiting their women's championship title after hearing their best player is gay.

I'd say the odds are extremely high they knew she was gay during her playing days.


She already said that her team has known for a while.

[coyotes_geek]

maybe, but he's also been a product of marketing for those 12 years. He's likely got a little horse-sense regarding his exposure and to think that there's some monetization to coming out is not completely out there.

Certainly a possibility. I hope that's not the case though.

[Avante]

I think we all know that a superstar franchise type talent could probably get away with coming out in the NFL...but role players? All other things being equal the gay role player will get cut every time IMHO. Football locker rooms are still a little behind the times in being PC.

NFL locker rooms is how it was, is and will stay.

[Blake]

I still say it puts them in a bad situation. They liked him enough to pick him up when they thought he was straight. If they don't make an offer some in the media will definitely blame it on homo discrimination.

They aren't worried about it one bit.

[TeyshaBlue]

Certainly a possibility. I hope that's not the case though.

Oh, I'm not saying that's his motivator. But a monetary benefit...well, horse's mouth and all that.

[coyotes_geek]

Oh, I'm not saying that's his motivator. But a monetary benefit...well, horse's mouth and all that.

BEASTIALITY!!!!!

[Blake]

NFL locker rooms is how it was, is and will stay.

How many NFL locker rooms have you been in when NFL players were in it?

[Avante]

Who here thinks fans of a team would be cool with having had a known gay QB?

[ChumpDumper]

maybe, but he's also been a product of marketing for those 12 years. He's likely got a little horse-sense regarding his exposure and to think that there's some monetization to coming out is not completely out there.Dude will be 35 next season and has been on six teams in the past six seasons. He might be going for one last season to make the book more interesting.

[TeyshaBlue]

BEASTIALITY!!!!!

/thread

[Avante]

How many NFL locker rooms have you been in when NFL players were in it?

I've been around tons of fellow footballers, played in, hmmmmm?....44 high school games, too many city league games to try to remember. Nobody is cool with gay footballers.

[ChumpDumper]

Who here thinks fans of a team would be cool with having had a known gay QB?If he makes the team win, most of them.

[TeyshaBlue]

Who here thinks fans of a team would be cool with having had a known gay QB?

Some will, some won't. It's not rocket science.

[ChumpDumper]

I've been around tons of fellow footballers, played in, hmmmmm?....44 high school games, too many city league games to try to remember. Nobody is cool with gay footballers.So the answer is none. You have zero NFL experience.

[coyotes_geek]

Who here thinks fans of a team would be cool with having had a known gay QB?

Some are going to be cool with it, some won't, some won't care one way or the other.

[TeyshaBlue]

I've been around tons of fellow footballers, played in, hmmmmm?....44 high school games, too many city league games to try to remember. Nobody is cool with gay footballers.

lol. Blake meant in the last couple of decades.

[Avante]

If he makes the team win, most of them.

You really believe that? Based on what?

[TeyshaBlue]

and none of that hs/city league means jack shit.

[ChumpDumper]

You really believe that? Based on what?Based on the fans of NFL teams whose quarterbacks help the teams win.

[Avante]

lol. Blake meant in the last couple of decades.

So you are telling me that everybody...today...is fine with gay athletes? Most anyway...right?

[Avante]

Based on the fans of NFL teams whose quarterbacks help the teams win.

So being gay, a non factor?

[ChumpDumper]

So you are telling me that everybody...today...is fine with gay athletes? Most anyway...right?No, he didn't say that at all.

You're terrible at this.

[ChumpDumper]

So being gay, a non factor?Performance is the most important thing, except to people like you .

[Avante]

and none of that hs/city league means jack shit.

How about major college footall/NFL....who are our "known" gay players?

[Drachen]

The one that scores? :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-cT58rgNc

[Drachen]

The one that scores? :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-cT58rgNc

[Avante]

Performance is the most important thing, except to people like you .

So what % of the fans are like me?

[ChumpDumper]

So what % of the fans are like me?I'm not Gallup, dipshit.

[Avante]

No, he didn't say that at all.

You're terrible at this.

Somebody is terrible at this and it isn't me.

The guy totally ignores teality.

[ChumpDumper]

How about major college footall/NFL....who are our "known" gay players?Aaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnd there go the goalposts!

[CosmicCowboy]

Maybe TMac can come out now.

[Avante]

I'm not Gallup, dipshit.

So what would you guess, asshole? 10% 30% ETC ETC

[ChumpDumper]

Somebody is terrible at this and it isn't me.

The guy totally ignores teality.How dare you try to trash teal.

Colorist!

[Drachen]

Who here thinks fans of a team would be cool with having had a known gay QB?

If he's better than romo? Fuckin put a Tranny in as QB. Shit, Put a whole line of tranny's to protect the Tranny QB.

[ChumpDumper]

So what would you guess, asshole? 10% 30% ETC ETCIf you just want something made up, ask Wild Cobra.

[Avante]

So the answer is none. You have zero NFL experience.

But I;m going to guess...


all players want to start
make as much $$$$ as they can
not get injured
like pussy
wanna be known as a great teammate

.....how'd I do that?

[Avante]

If you just want something made up, ask Wild Cobra.

Just as I thought, yep...clueless.

[coyotes_geek]

But I;m going to guess...


all players want to start
make as much $$$$ as they can
not get injured
like pussy
wanna be known as a great teammate

.....how'd I do that?

Well it's settled. There must not be any gay players in the NFL. Not one.

[ChumpDumper]

But I;m going to guess...


all players want to start
make as much $$$$ as they can
not get injured
like pussy
wanna be known as a great teammate

.....how'd I do that?Who knows? You have no NFL experience.


Just as I thought, yep...clueless.As are you. Any number you would post would be a clueless guess -- which won't stop you from doing it.

Watch.

What percentage of fans do you think are like you?

[Avante]

Ok in closing....

Football isn't a place to be a homosexual. We all know this, why some need to play silly ass games...??? These players are big and bad they and vicious. They are ...MACHO! Some gay dude with a gay boyfriend...hahahaha!!!!!!! That ain't gonna work and only a bunch of morons would think it would.

Ok people have at your fantasy world having nothing to do with real life.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok in closing....

Baseball isn't a place to be black. We all know this, why some need to play silly ass games...??? These players are big and bad they and vicious. They are ...WHITE! Some black dude with a white girlfriend...hahahaha!!!!!!! That ain't gonna work and only a bunch of morons would think it would.

Ok people have at your fantasy world having nothing to do with real life.

[Blake]

Ok in closing....

Football isn't a place to be a homosexual. We all know this, why some need to play silly ass games...??? These players are big and bad they and vicious. They are ...MACHO! Some gay dude with a gay boyfriend...hahahaha!!!!!!! That ain't gonna work and only a bunch of morons would think it would.

Ok people have at your fantasy world having nothing to do with real life.

You don't get out much.

And when you do get out, we know it's not to go to an NFL locker room