Thor 2

[Trainwreck2100]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bFZJ-3zNFg

Not really sure about this one they had to change directors mid movie because it was originally directed by a woman

[lefty]

Thor 1 was meh ....

(By the way did anyone notice Odin'S ravens in the Avengers )


Im sure Thor 2 will be better

[Reck]

Is Thor the least interesting comic character ever? Maybe Captain America but close.

Cant get into their stories.

[Latarian Milton]

thro is as strong as ironman in a fight, maybe even stronger as you saw in the avengers but he doesn't even have 1/10 the charm ironman has tbh

[Latarian Milton]

captain america might be the weakest of all avengers (except for hawk eye and black widow of course, they're both common humans) but you have to preserve him a top3 spot on this team for his name and his legendary experience tbh.

[lefty]

lol all those faggots are afraid of Bruce Banner

[Avante]

You pretty much have to be into the Conan books to dig the movies. Same with Thor, those into the mythology, with Valhalla, Odin, Loki etc get it. Both heros primitive dudes.

Have never warmed up to comics/movies taking pulp fiction/myths and doing what they want with them, it's just wrong. If they wanna relive the actual stories, cool. And they should have.

[SupremeGuy]

lol all those faggots are afraid of Bruce Bannerlol Thor's been in a few fights with the Hulk and even walked away in a couple of them. Doesn't matter though, they're both scared of Clark Kent.

http://www.mania.com/content_pics/000005/99/52/703af9a5ce7d396f_large.jpg

In the classic crossover, it shows you that Superman wins.

[Trainwreck2100]

lol Thor's been in a few fights with the Hulk and even walked away in a couple of them. Doesn't matter though, they're both scared of Clark Kent.

http://www.mania.com/content_pics/000005/99/52/703af9a5ce7d396f_large.jpg

In the classic crossover, it shows you that Superman wins.

Magic hurts superman so while thor wouldn't match up with him in terms of strength his hammer could do work

[Proxy]

thro is as strong as ironman in a fight, maybe even stronger as you saw in the avengers but he doesn't even have 1/10 the charm ironman has tbh

there's no real comparison if they wanted to remain faithful to the comics... they got around that shit in the avengers for that specific fight by making Iron Man's suit absorb Thor's lightning. Thor and Hulk are on another tier entirely. Sometimes Iron Man gets the, "well if he has time to prepare," thing going for him.

[SupremeGuy]

Magic hurts superman so while thor wouldn't match up with him in terms of strength his hammer could do workThey match up, but once again, Superman wins. Another classic crossover. Actually Superman basically says that Thor was the best matchup that he's ever had.

http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/superman-versus-thor.jpg

[TDMVPDPOY]

They match up, but once again, Superman wins. Another classic crossover. Actually Superman basically says that Thor was the best matchup that he's ever had.

http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/superman-versus-thor.jpg

both arent even in hulks league

[SupremeGuy]

Clark Kent (original Superman), in his strongest form (http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime_%28One_Million%29) would utterly destroy anyone in either DC or Marvel that isn't the "real God" of those perspective comics. /nerd

[Latarian Milton]

superman has to trump them all imho, guy is the earth's guardian and super-most hero in our culture. superman is a combination of hulk/thor's strength plus captain america's charm

[TDMVPDPOY]

superman has to trump them all imho, guy is the earth's guardian and super-most hero in our culture. superman is a combination of hulk/thor's strength plus captain america's charm

now if hulk was made of kryptonite, would be different

[lefty]

Batman already beat the shit out of Superman

Its a fact

[Avante]

In a 20 man Battle Royal

The Hulk
TheThing
Brak
Hercules
Conan
Batman
Superman
Ironman
Tarzan
Green Lantern
John Jones the Martian Manhunter
The Flash
Kane
Spiderman
Captain America
Kyrik
Thor
Green Arrow
Submariner
Thongor

The final 4...

The Hulk
John Jones the Martian Manhunter
Thor
Superman

Gotta go with.....Superman....the guy is simply too much and it actually sucks.

[The Reckoning]

superman is the lamest shit.

[The Reckoning]

dr manhattan would own him

[Trainwreck2100]

I'm going to have to ask everyone to ignore the list that has appeared in my thread, thank you very much

[Blake]

lol Thor's been in a few fights with the Hulk and even walked away in a couple of them. Doesn't matter though, they're both scared of Clark Kent.

http://www.mania.com/content_pics/000005/99/52/703af9a5ce7d396f_large.jpg

In the classic crossover, it shows you that Superman wins.


They match up, but once again, Superman wins. Another classic crossover. Actually Superman basically says that Thor was the best matchup that he's ever had.

http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/superman-versus-thor.jpg

When they got together to decide who would be the strongest, why did Marvel allow their characters to lose?

[SupremeGuy]

When they got together to decide who would be the strongest, why did Marvel allow their characters to lose?To tell you the truth, honestly, cause Superman is so ridiculously overpowered that even Marvel knew they couldn't win with their strongest characters.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Cause superman is a bitch made nigga doe he from da streetz

[Avante]

The best read of all the hero/movie characters is Conan. The saga is truly amazing, on a level all it's on as far as heroic fantasy goes. 12 books made up the Conan story (not talking all those who tried) all fantastic.

Conan is a badass but just a human, he is limited. He fights a bull gorilla, he has his hands full, no he can't match strength but he can hang. Has to out think the brute. He can whip up on three maybe four guys but five...hmm? So we do see things not soooooo far fetched.

The Arnold Conans were pretty lame, the last one came real close to nailing it.

[Trainwreck2100]

Alright so back on topic, portman's probably done after this one

[Latarian Milton]

dragon ball Z might be the best comic book series in terms of entertaining quality imho. they're many badasses in dragon ball and characters with recognizable personalities

[Trainwreck2100]

dragon ball Z might be the best comic book series in terms of entertaining quality imho. they're many badasses in dragon ball and characters with recognizable personalities

yes but the creator screwed up by not nerfing Goku every new enemy and he just contra coded to more power

[BlackSwordsMan]

lol kat dennings will have like a two second role
her career is really sky rocketing

[BlackSwordsMan]

yes but the creator screwed up by not nerfing Goku every new enemy and he just contra coded to more power
Its not Goku's fault hes so popular. It was supposed to be gohan who have killed buu and goku was supposed to stay dead but his popularity is why he came back and GT is fucking trash.

[BlackSwordsMan]

IMO FWIW DBZ sucked shit after frieza saga

[redzero]

Berserk > all other anime/manga

[Trainwreck2100]

IMO FWIW DBZ sucked shit after frieza saga

Vegeta's last words before killing himself were G as fuck though

[BlackSwordsMan]

Vegeta's last words before killing himself were G as fuck though

Yeah I cried

[BlackSwordsMan]

Berserk > all other anime/manga

Never watched the anime but yes a couple of years ago berserk was my favorite manga but the FUCKER DOES LIKE 1 CHAPTER A FUCKING YEAR. ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

[redzero]

I know that feel, bro! Dude's definitely going to die before it's finished.

[CuckingFunt]

Alright so back on topic, portman's probably done after this one

I would think so, since they practically had to force her to be in this one. I think she tried to walk after the first director was canned.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Berserk > all other anime/manga

pretty certain the gundam franchise is older then ironman franchise, what u see in ironman especially all the hardware is already explained and showed in the earlier gundam series which are probably 30-40yrs ahead of its time

[BlackSwordsMan]

pretty certain the gundam franchise is older then ironman franchise, what u see in ironman especially all the hardware is already explained and showed in the earlier gundam series which are probably 30-40yrs ahead of its time

Quote the wrong post or something?

[ChumpDumper]

I thought Padmé was already dead.

[J.T.]

pretty certain the gundam franchise is older then ironman franchise, what u see in ironman especially all the hardware is already explained and showed in the earlier gundam series which are probably 30-40yrs ahead of its time

Iron Man: 1963

First Gundam: 1979

You lose. Gundam actually hijacked quite a bit of its world from all kinds of other science fiction works, mostly Starship Troopers (Heinlein novel). Tomino is also on record as saying the Gundam just had a gigantic real sword until Star Wars came out and he changed it to a beam saber. The space colony design/tech is pretty much 100% ripped off from Gerard O'Neill's book "The High Frontier." The Zabi family is more or less collectively Space Hitler... almost nothing in the first Gundam is original. It still works and is a decent enough foundation for large scale fiction, but a lot of the acclaim Gundam gets for being "groundbreaking" for its time is levied upon it by idiots who didn't do their homework.

[J.T.]

IMO FWIW DBZ sucked shit after frieza saga

That's mostly because the Cyborgs/Cell story took so long to get off the ground. The problem with that is Toriyama intended the first two cyborgs to be the villains of the entire arc. His previous editor saw them in the weekly comic and contacted him saying, "Really? A fat man and an old guy? You can do better." Obviously referring to #19 and #20. So after taking that criticism he created #17 and #18 to take over the mantle as the main villains for the arc. But after seeing those two, Toriyama's former editor called him and said, "Really? Just two kids? You can do better."

That's when he created Cell. Now, his actual editor who was working on Dragon Ball with him at the time did not like the original design of Cell so he told Toriyama, "Make him transform." That's when the idea of Cell needing to absorb the two cyborgs to reach his perfect form came about and is arguably when that arc starts to get good. So keep in mind, you could have had an entire arc of just #19 and #20 and instead have Cell. I agree that Freeza was the best part, but only because he was so evil he made Vegeta cry. And the whole Goku denying being a Saiyan, then vowing revenge for his race and becoming a Super Saiyan part was pretty bad ass.

The Boo arc is almost as good as Freeza except for how they cheapen the act of becoming a Super Saiyan. In the previous two arcs you see all of the major characters truly struggle to reach that status and the two kids just turn it on like it's a light switch. And I don't want to be the guy that says anything in Dragon Ball is OP, but Gotenks getting to Super Saiyan 3 was OP. Goku could only stay in SS3 for a matter of minutes and it took almost all of his power away to do it and the kids just flip another light switch and reach that level. Fucking OP. Rest of Boo arc is extremely solid and was a decent ending to that series tbh.

[Drachen]

Is Thor the least interesting comic character ever? Maybe Captain America but close.

Cant get into their stories.

The family from Family Circle, TBH.

[BlackSwordsMan]

That's mostly because the Cyborgs/Cell story took so long to get off the ground. The problem with that is Toriyama intended the first two cyborgs to be the villains of the entire arc. His previous editor saw them in the weekly comic and contacted him saying, "Really? A fat man and an old guy? You can do better." Obviously referring to #19 and #20. So after taking that criticism he created #17 and #18 to take over the mantle as the main villains for the arc. But after seeing those two, Toriyama's former editor called him and said, "Really? Just two kids? You can do better."

That's when he created Cell. Now, his actual editor who was working on Dragon Ball with him at the time did not like the original design of Cell so he told Toriyama, "Make him transform." That's when the idea of Cell needing to absorb the two cyborgs to reach his perfect form came about and is arguably when that arc starts to get good. So keep in mind, you could have had an entire arc of just #19 and #20 and instead have Cell. I agree that Freeza was the best part, but only because he was so evil he made Vegeta cry. And the whole Goku denying being a Saiyan, then vowing revenge for his race and becoming a Super Saiyan part was pretty bad ass.

The Boo arc is almost as good as Freeza except for how they cheapen the act of becoming a Super Saiyan. In the previous two arcs you see all of the major characters truly struggle to reach that status and the two kids just turn it on like it's a light switch. And I don't want to be the guy that says anything in Dragon Ball is OP, but Gotenks getting to Super Saiyan 3 was OP. Goku could only stay in SS3 for a matter of minutes and it took almost all of his power away to do it and the kids just flip another light switch and reach that level. Fucking OP. Rest of Boo arc is extremely solid and was a decent ending to that series tbh.Dude exactly SS was this amazing thing that rarely happens by buu saga everyone was a fucking super saiyan was so dumb and cheapened it.

[Leetonidas]

Fuck Superman. Get some kryptonite and he's in bitch mode

[Leetonidas]

That's mostly because the Cyborgs/Cell story took so long to get off the ground. The problem with that is Toriyama intended the first two cyborgs to be the villains of the entire arc. His previous editor saw them in the weekly comic and contacted him saying, "Really? A fat man and an old guy? You can do better." Obviously referring to #19 and #20. So after taking that criticism he created #17 and #18 to take over the mantle as the main villains for the arc. But after seeing those two, Toriyama's former editor called him and said, "Really? Just two kids? You can do better."

That's when he created Cell. Now, his actual editor who was working on Dragon Ball with him at the time did not like the original design of Cell so he told Toriyama, "Make him transform." That's when the idea of Cell needing to absorb the two cyborgs to reach his perfect form came about and is arguably when that arc starts to get good. So keep in mind, you could have had an entire arc of just #19 and #20 and instead have Cell. I agree that Freeza was the best part, but only because he was so evil he made Vegeta cry. And the whole Goku denying being a Saiyan, then vowing revenge for his race and becoming a Super Saiyan part was pretty bad ass.

The Boo arc is almost as good as Freeza except for how they cheapen the act of becoming a Super Saiyan. In the previous two arcs you see all of the major characters truly struggle to reach that status and the two kids just turn it on like it's a light switch. And I don't want to be the guy that says anything in Dragon Ball is OP, but Gotenks getting to Super Saiyan 3 was OP. Goku could only stay in SS3 for a matter of minutes and it took almost all of his power away to do it and the kids just flip another light switch and reach that level. Fucking OP. Rest of Boo arc is extremely solid and was a decent ending to that series tbh.

iirc it has something to do with them being human, as well as two fused human-sayians in SS mode that makes Gotenks so got damn powerful and able to sustain SS3

[TDMVPDPOY]

buu saga sucks compared to cell saga

gohan was meant to be stronger then his father, but in GT dude was a fkn scrub

[Leetonidas]

buu saga sucks compared to cell saga

gohan was meant to be stronger then his father, but in GT dude was a fkn scrub

didn't he give up his ability to become SS?

[J.T.]

buu saga sucks compared to cell saga

gohan was meant to be stronger then his father, but in GT dude was a fkn scrub

GT does not follow the comic book, which ends after Majin Boo. I've personally never watched GT because I know it's not the real Dragon Ball story. And the Boo arc is fantastic. Boo is almost as good a villain as Freeza. Everyone likes Freeza because he's an aristocratic space douche that just so happened to be the strongest guy in the universe at the time who got a kick out of torturing people and making them feel like they had a chance before killing them and destroying their entire planet. Boo just... turns you into candy and laughs. It's an equally creepy element just without the fanfare because he doesn't rub it in with dialogue like Freeza did. The characters struggle just as much to defeat him and it features some of the more interesting ideas in the series (the Kaioshins, their planet, the Z sword, Super Saiyan 3, fusion, Vegeta finally admitting Goku is better than him, etc).

That is unless you watched the English version and think Freeza is a woman who tells bad jokes and just so happens to be the strongest "guy" in the universe. Point is if you watched English DBZ, you did it wrong. Very wrong.

[Reck]

Berserk > all other anime/manga

Fist of the North Star tbh.

[Reck]

GT does not follow the comic book, which ends after Majin Boo. I've personally never watched GT because I know it's not the real Dragon Ball story. And the Boo arc is fantastic. Boo is almost as good a villain as Freeza. Everyone likes Freeza because he's an aristocratic space douche that just so happened to be the strongest guy in the universe at the time who got a kick out of torturing people and making them feel like they had a chance before killing them and destroying their entire planet. Boo just... turns you into candy and laughs. It's an equally creepy element just without the fanfare because he doesn't rub it in with dialogue like Freeza did. The characters struggle just as much to defeat him and it features some of the more interesting ideas in the series (the Kaioshins, their planet, the Z sword, Super Saiyan 3, fusion, Vegeta finally admitting Goku is better than him, etc).

That is unless you watched the English version and think Freeza is a woman who tells bad jokes and just so happens to be the strongest "guy" in the universe. Point is if you watched English DBZ, you did it wrong. Very wrong.

I tried watching DB in japanese and I just couldn't get over the girly Goku voice along with the majority of the cast.

Compared to say, Saint Seiya's voiceovers, the guys from DBZ have nothing on the said other guys.

With that said, I recently downloaded the whole DB-Z-GT anime out of nostalgia and stashed it on one of my external HDs.

They're MKV so they have both the English/Japanese and an alternate channel while retaining a very good quality video so its a win-win.

Dont think I'll see it anytime soon but its there. lol

[J.T.]

I tried watching DB in japanese and I just couldn't get over the girly Goku voice along with the majority of the cast.


The problem with this is that the United States debuted Dragon Ball Z first when in reality the "Z" part of the story is the second two thirds of a larger picture. Had you watched Dragon Ball first, you'd give zero fucks about Goku's voice sounding like that. Even with that said though, there is an ever so subtle difference between Masako Nozawa's child Goku and adult Goku. She also plays Gohan and Goten and I could easily tell you which voice is which by basic ear test.

I recommend removing the stick from your ass and then trying to watch it again, tbh. It's just a voice in a cartoon. You should waste your effort on disliking something far more relevant. The way Goku's lines are written in the English dub is just... not Goku. Like at all. The English version of DB/DBZ is like DB/DBZ passed out at a party and someone took a felt pen and drew dicks all over its face.

[Reck]

I recommend removing the stick from your ass and then trying to watch it again, tbh. It's just a voice in a cartoon. You should waste your effort on disliking something far more relevant. The way Goku's lines are written in the English dub is just... not Goku. Like at all. The English version of DB/DBZ is like DB/DBZ passed out at a party and someone took a felt pen and drew dicks all over its face.

I will at some point.

I actually prefer watching something the way it was supposed to be watched.

I like watching foreign films in their actual language. The desired effect is always lost when you dub something. It just sounds off.

Netflix has a few dubbed movies that are clearly meant to be seen in their perspetive language but the english dubbed version just throws the whole thing off. I often have to quit a movie because I just cant get into it for said reason.

Even though Dragonball and its predecesors are origignally japanese I'm just used to the English voices more for obvious reasons.

I'll give it a shot however.

[J.T.]

I will at some point.

I actually prefer watching something the way it was supposed to be watched.

I like watching foreign films in their actual language. The desired effect is always lost when you dub something. It just sounds off.

Even though Dragonball and its predecesors are origignally japanese I'm just used to the English voices more for obvious reasons.

All valid points, and I totally understand because I started on DB in English as well. Unfortunately for my time, this was back when they only had about 50 episodes available and would always go back to the beginning right about when Goku touched down on Namek and I was one of the few cool kids in my school who had high speed internet at the time, so I found a site (not even a site really, just an index page with all the links) that had every episode of DB and Z in RealPlayer video format and just mined it all off that site for a few days. So I experienced MOST of the story in Japanese for the first time, save for those 50 episodes which I did eventually go back and rewatch in Japanese.

I actually speak Japanese now (moreso to play games without text patches than to watch film/animation without subtitles) so the way their actors speak and sound doesn't really bother me at all. My personal Japanese accent sounds a lot different than my English speech. It's just something you accept after a while. I just have a huge problem with how they did Goku in English. They make him out to be this Superman type character that stands up for good and thwarts evil when really he's just a really strong country bumpkin and the only thing he wants out of life is to fight someone stronger than him so he can improve. That's it. The English version adds too many elements to Goku that aren't even supposed to be there and it destroys his character.

Dragon Ball Z Kai does a much better job of staying true to the original script and even slightly changes how they write for Goku. It's passable, and I'd even say if you are going to be a stickler for staying with the English version then it's probably OK to watch that version. But the original run of DBZ TV is garbage. If I ever become a multimillionaire I'm going to buy out FUNimation and redub it properly.

[J.T.]

iirc it has something to do with them being human, as well as two fused human-sayians in SS mode that makes Gotenks so got damn powerful and able to sustain SS3

The human/Saiyan hybrid thing is mostly Gohan's plot device. I don't think it was meant to be a universal constant in the series. Toriyama was inspired by Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde when he characterized Gohan like that. The only longshot explanation as to why Gotenks can do SS3 is when Goku explains how fusion works. He says that when he learned about the technique, he "saw two guys who had like no power at all fuse into this totally awesome guy" so you'd naturally assume two Super Saiyans fusing could result in enough power for SS3.

But the problem I have with that is that Goku can barely sustain the form and it actually subtracts HOURS from his 24 hour allowance to come back to Earth. The kids never reach SS2 (whether fused or individually) and apparently aren't taxed at all by using SS3. It's bullshit. If it harms Goku to use that form, it should wipe them out.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Berserk > all other anime/manga

lol whatever the latest chapter fantasia arc, lol deerman going against greek mythology what half human/animal should look like...

[Suspect]

Clark Kent (original Superman), in his strongest form (http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime_%28One_Million%29) would utterly destroy anyone in either DC or Marvel that isn't the "real God" of those perspective comics. /nerd

Flash defeated superboy prime

Flash > Superman

[SupremeGuy]

Flash defeated superboy prime

Flash > SupermanDifferent characters.

Superman's ejaculate > Flash

[Trainwreck2100]

Flash defeated superboy prime

Flash > Superman

did he use the game genie cheat known as the speed force?

[Two10Whitey]

Charles Ramsey and his goons could destroy all of them.. Seriously though, I thought DBZ was great. I liked every saga.. GT was lame though and I wish I never sat through it. YuYu Hakusho was another good anime, especially if you enjoyed DBZ.

[The Reckoning]

dbz movies were the best. the series strung out the fights way too long.

[TDMVPDPOY]

was watchin some marvel cartoon movies, are they true to the comics?

[Suspect]

Different characters.

Superman's ejaculate > Flash


did he use the game genie cheat known as the speed force?
superman fanboys acting like spursfans imo

Yes, superboy prime got his shit pushed in into the speed force, but to be fair it took multiple Flashes

between speedforce, IMP, and speed steal I go with Flash

and you said original Clark Kent what do you mean? Superboy Prime is a Clark Kent

[Suspect]

Different characters.

Superman's ejaculate > Flash


Charles Ramsey and his goons could destroy all of them.. Seriously though, I thought DBZ was great. I liked every saga.. GT was lame though and I wish I never sat through it. YuYu Hakusho was another good anime, especially if you enjoyed DBZ.
YuYu is really underrated but you can tell how similar it was getting to DBZ towards the end. Not a bad thing.

Ronin Warriors is also another old school classic to me

[SupremeGuy]

Original Superman/Clark Kent from the DC One Million Series. I assumed we were talking about the characters in their strongest forms... in which case, Superman Prime(click me) (http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime_%28One_Million%29) could literally ejaculate and kill any and every Flash with it regardless of speedforce.

[SupremeGuy]

YuYu is really underrated but you can tell how similar it was getting to DBZ towards the end. Not a bad thing.

Ronin Warriors is also another old school classic to meMan, I loved YuYu. The manga that's getting fucking ridiculous is Naruto. It went from Kakashi versus Zabuza; to fucking nuclear bomb jutsus, gravitational moons being created, and meteors. :downspin:

[Trainwreck2100]

was watchin some marvel cartoon movies, are they true to the comics?

They take alot from the comics, but like the DCAU they are considered their own universe

[AaronY]

This is like Stand By Me deleted scenes..

[TDMVPDPOY]

not a reader of Thor franchise

but in part 1, they say his family is the gateway holder to the 8 realms of the universe, they are just the people who control it, doesnt mean they are the superior race right?

if they aint superior, then who is? superman?

[lefty]

This is awesome :lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toPstPIcGnI#at=37

[lefty]

New Trailer :wow


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npvJ9FTgZbM

[Rogue]

So it's still casting that frog-mouthed whore named Natalie Portman?

[Buddy Mignon]

So it's still casting that frog-mouthed whore named Natalie Portman?

Ms. Portman is way more regal than Sean Penn's one night stand.

syinWFGDYho

[lefty]

Oh, and Kurse at 1:46