Couple Sentenced for Hiring Son a Stripper

[mookie2001]

when i was 17, 18 i did a shitload of illegal shit, thispego too
it wasnt because of my mom
we've both got great moms and great families
kids are going to do whatever they want, even if you hug them 20 hours a day
so dont act like hiring a stripper at 16 is going to morally corrupt them for life

i wouldnt do it
but i wouldnt act like father of the year because i didnt

[Flea]

If the photo place had mentioned nothing abut it, this thread would have never existed and the world would go on spinning.... the stripper would still be stripping and the parents would be going to work right now....


And should one of those parents had complained an investigation would have happened. A group of boys will brag and parents will get pissed. The photo place did nothing wrong.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

If the photo place had mentioned nothing abut it, this thread would have never existed and the world would go on spinning.... the stripper would still be stripping and the parents would be going to work right now....


Serial killers go on killing until they get caught. What's your point? It's not wrong if no one says anything?

[Flea]

when i was 17, 18 i did a shitload of illegal shit, thispego too
it wasnt because of my mom
we've both got great moms and great families
kids are going to do whatever they want, even if you hug them 20 hours a day
so dont act like hiring a stripper at 16 is going to morally corrupt them for life

i wouldnt do it
but i wouldnt act like father of the year because i didnt


<sigh>......this debate is over.

[SWC Bonfire]

<sigh>......this debate is over.

:lol

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38496000/jpg/_38496971_annrichards_vt150.jpg

Mookie was born with a strip..uh his foot in his mouth.

[Kori Ellis]

I'm just going to throw this in here, but not really say my opinion on the subject.

Some people in this thread are repeatedly saying things like "acts with a child", "pictures with a child", "strippers with a child". To clarify, I don't think the law considers it "with a child" when the person is 16. "With a minor", yes. "With a child", no. Child acts related to pornography, sex acts, sexual situations are when the person is 13 or under, I believe.

I think this is relevant to this conversation in the manner in which it's being argued in this thread.

Carry on.

[Guru of Nothing]

Let's see, Travis disagrees with someone and calls them a fuckwad, and then proceeds to tell us what a great shining example to parenthood he is.

Whatever.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Thanks for the clarification Kori. I think I'm done with this one anyway.

I'm off to have lunch at the local strip club. Later.

[Kori Ellis]

I'm off to have lunch at the local strip club. Later.

Don't forget to bring your son. :)

[SWC Bonfire]

Don't forget to bring your son. :)

Leno's "Headlines" segment last night had a coupon for a strip club - "limit one per family". :lol

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Don't forget to bring your son. :)


But of course!


He wanted to see mom today anyway!

[travis2]

Let's see, Travis disagrees with someone and calls them a fuckwad, and then proceeds to tell us what a great shining example to parenthood he is.

Whatever.

Criticism accepted.

Outside of that, however, I maintain my position.

[SpursWoman]

I'm just going to throw this in here, but not really say my opinion on the subject.

Some people in this thread are repeatedly saying things like "acts with a child", "pictures with a child", "strippers with a child". To clarify, I don't think the law considers it "with a child" when the person is 16. "With a minor", yes. "With a child", no. Child acts related to pornography, sex acts, sexual situations are when the person is 13 or under, I believe.

I think this is relevant to this conversation in the manner in which it's being argued in this thread.

Carry on.


Every definition of minor I can find as far as sexual offenses or indecency with a child is concerned does not differentiate between a 4 year old or a 16 year old, but as a child under the age of 18....unless there's somewhere I'm not looking...?

[ObiwanGinobili]

I recently found out my downstairs neighbor is a convicted sex offender. (FOIA :tu)
When I looked into it he was convicteed of "indecency with a child" "stegetory rape"
the girl was 15.

So thats what I'm going by. ... the "under 18" rule.

[Kori Ellis]

Every definition of minor I can find as far as sexual offenses or indecency with a child is concerned does not differentiate between a 4 year old or a 16 year old, but as a child under the age of 18....unless there's somewhere I'm not looking...?

Well, I know that it's broken down more than just "under 18".

For example, the Protection of Children Act (1978) -- which applies to child porn -- defines children as "under 16". Then, there was an amendment that added some specifics for 16-17 year olds.

But most state statutes have very different laws and different sentencing depending on age and the breaking point is normally 13. I'll see if I can find you specifics.

I'm not saying that 13-17 year olds aren't minors (obviously they are), but I'm saying that indecency, child porn and sex acts with a 10 year old are normally handled a lot differently than a 16 year old.

[Kori Ellis]

On another note, the parents weren't charged with anything sexual in this case, right? Just "delinquency of a minor"?

[bigzak25]

I'd also like to add an fyi that the 3ft rule for topless dancers will be in effect september 9th, if i'm not mistaken.


so anyone up for a sept 2nd or sept 3rd gtg? :smokin http://extremeskins.com/forums/images/smilies/boobies.gif

[Useruser666]

This whole case could have been avoided with the use of a digital camera! Geez people!

[ObiwanGinobili]

On another note, the parents weren't charged with anything sexual in this case, right? Just "delinquency of a minor"?


yeah. but i think the "is under 18 considered a minor?" question came in about the Photo Tech reporting the photos.
As a past photo lab manager I can say htat in my training and in my consultations with law enforcement we were advised to report any thing "unseemly" that involved people who appeared to be under the age of 18.

[ObiwanGinobili]

This whole case could have been avoided with the use of a digital camera! Geez people!


:lol
It amazes me how many people arn't willing to spend $50 or so bucks for a cheapo digital but are willing to spend $ on batteries , film and development just so that I the photo person gets to see their fat pasty hairy ass gettign the old lady from behind on the sitting room sofa. :vomit. Then complain the pictures are too dark and could I lighten them up a bit. :rolleyes

[Kori Ellis]

yeah. but i think the "is under 18 considered a minor?" question came in about the Photo Tech reporting the photos.

Yeah, I think under 18 is definitely considered a minor.

I have a question for people, if you had a 17 year old son who had graduated from high school. Let's say they were going to go out and party with friends and they were honest with you and TOLD you that they were going to drink alcohol there. Would you ...

1. Let them have the party at your house -- that way you could control how much they were drinking and make sure that no one drove under the influence.
2. Let them go to the party and just do your best to encourage them not to drink there.
3. Forbid them to leave the house (probably nearly impossible).

[ObiwanGinobili]

I would like to think that I had raised my son to not go around breaking the law.
In Texas its legal for a parent to serve thier child alcohol.
If he wanted to drink a bit (but not to the point of excess) I would let him at home.
If he then wanted to go and hang out with his friends that'd be fine.. but I'd expect him to not put himslef in a dangerous situation, abide by the rules of my house (curfew etc) and to be the bigger man if trouble does occur (ie. things get out of control and someone gets hurt or sick).
I wouldn't condone partying like a dope fiend and drinking all night, and he'd be in a huge pile of doody if he did.

but please please lets not fast forward so far in time.. my oldest is 15 months and I like to think it'll last forever!!!!

[travis2]

Yeah, I think under 18 is definitely considered a minor.

I have a question for people, if you had a 17 year old son who had graduated from high school. Let's say they were going to go out and party with friends and they were honest with you and TOLD you that they were going to drink alcohol there. Would you ...

1. Let them have the party at your house -- that way you could control how much they were drinking and make sure that no one drove under the influence.
2. Let them go to the party and just do your best to encourage them not to drink there.
3. Forbid them to leave the house (probably nearly impossible).

I may be accused of being a Pollyanna (or the male equivalent thereof)...but I would (yes, really) go for 3...or maybe a 4 (an alternate non-alcoholic party...which could come under 1 because I wouldn't serve alcohol). As the hammer, I could hold a drivers license over their head...any underage drinker in Texas caught blowing anything but a 0.00 loses their license...no questions asked.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

ok seeing as how everyones repeating themselves in this thread, lets turn it back a few pages and redo our discussion about breasts

[Kori Ellis]

As the hammer, I could hold a drivers license over their head...any underage drinker in Texas caught blowing anything but a 0.00 loses their license...no questions asked.

Let's say they aren't driving.

[travis2]

Let's say they aren't driving.

It doesn't matter...in Texas, if they are caught blowing a positive number under any circumstances, they get their license pulled.

[Kori Ellis]

It doesn't matter...in Texas, if they are caught blowing a positive number under any circumstances, they get their license pulled.

You are stretching. How are they going to get caught if they aren't out driving or anywhere near cops? That wouldn't be a big threat to them unless there were cops around.

[travis2]

You are stretching. How are they going to get caught if they aren't out driving or anywhere near cops? That wouldn't be a big threat to them unless there were cops around.

Well, that's why I would go for option 3 (or option 4/1). You're right, I can't guarantee it.

Of course, I also would have a curfew...and I would be awake when they got home.


Just to support my earlier claim, this is from the DPS web site...

3) Alcohol related offenses by a Minor. Persons under 21 years of age who are convicted of the following offenses will receive a 30 day license suspension for the first offense, 60 days for a second offense, and 180 days for a third offense. Alcohol Beverage Code 106.071.

Purchase of alcohol by a minor

Attempt to purchase alcohol by a minor

Consumption of alcohol by a minor

Possession of alcohol by a minor

Misrepresentation of age by a minor

[ObiwanGinobili]

I think what he's saying is that if some kids try'd to sneak alcohol into his non-alcohol party that he himslef would call the cops.

[travis2]

I think what he's saying is that if some kids try'd to sneak alcohol into his non-alcohol party that he himslef would call the cops.

Or at least their parents. But call I would...bet your ass on that...

[Flea]

Kori,

I would probably do what my mom did with me......she would let me go and tell me, PLEASE CALL ME. My Mom never condoned drinking as a teenager but she knew my friends and I were going to do it. She would always tell me, I would rather go pick you up and be slightly annoyed at having to pick you up than to have you kill someone or be killed. She did pick me and some friends up one night as I recall. Some teenage boys drove past our car and mooned us. :lol
My Mom had a bunch of things to say to those boys, we thought it was absolutely hilarious.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Whew! I just got back from the strip club. I bought my son 2 table dances to start out. He doesn't speak real well yet, but he does know the sign language for "more" and "please". As he kept asking for "more" I just handed him a roll of tens and told him I'd be back later when I'm off of work. The nice girls at the club agreed to watch him. . .at least until the cash runs out.



What did I miss??

[Kori Ellis]

So Trav, if he was determined to go out, you would attempt physically force him to stay home? Or what would you do?

I'm asking because I graduated highschool when I was 16. I had scholarships to go to UCLA in the fall. And graduation night, we all went to a house party. There was alcohol there and all us honor students were drinking. And the parents were home. No one got drunk. No one drove. And all was safe. Yes, I understand it's breaking the law, but I'd rather that than to have my kids unsupervised or driving while drinking.

[Flea]

Alcohol and teenagers graduating high school are a fact of life. Any parent who tries to fight it will lose. I personally would not BUY it for them but if it had to be held at someone's home and mine was the safest option I would do it in order to keep my kids safe.

[thispego]

Yeah, I think under 18 is definitely considered a minor.

I have a question for people, if you had a 17 year old son who had graduated from high school. Let's say they were going to go out and party with friends and they were honest with you and TOLD you that they were going to drink alcohol there. Would you ...

1. Let them have the party at your house -- that way you could control how much they were drinking and make sure that no one drove under the influence.
2. Let them go to the party and just do your best to encourage them not to drink there.
3. Forbid them to leave the house (probably nearly impossible).
When I have kids i'm not going to make drinking such a taboo. It's going to be an open subject, they can drink at my house or they can drink at their friends house... If they get in trouble by their friends parents then they get into trouble... but under NO circumstance will they ever make a habit of driving drunk.... I persoanlly made a habit of that throughout highschool and ended up paying a heafty price in college....

[travis2]

So Trav, if he was determined to go out, you would attempt physically force him to stay home? Or what would you do?

I'm asking because I graduated highschool when I was 16. I had scholarships to go to UCLA in the fall. And graduation night, we all went to a house party. There was alcohol there and all us honor students were drinking. And the parents were home. No one got drunk. No one drove. And all was safe. Yes, I understand it's breaking the law, but I'd rather that than to have my kids unsupervised or driving while drinking.


Physically restrain? No...that would go nowhere. I'm not an idiot, even if I am an idealist and a strict parent.

But they would have to leave on foot after specifically getting around me...because the keys would be impounded, and (if necessary) coil wires.

But that's if option 3 came into play. If there was an option 4, I'd be expecting (multiple) phone calls (my kids have cell phones) and I would be talking personally to the parents involved. If I went option 1, I would expect other parents to be calling me. And under no circumstances would I allow alcohol to be served at my house.

[Kori Ellis]

even if I am an idealist and a strict parent.

But do you think you are a realist?

[travis2]

But do you think you are a realist?

Well...knowing my own kids to the extent I do (which is not perfect)...yeah, I think I can realistically expect to enforce my own rules. But that's because of groundwork laid over the past several years, where I can (usually) expect certain rules to be followed.

[thispego]

And should one of those parents had complained an investigation would have happened. A group of boys will brag and parents will get pissed. The photo place did nothing wrong.
Why does the law have to get involved in everything? Sure, maybe one of the boys parents would have found out, but dont you think they would have called the parents who hired the stripper first? to get the story straight??? Sane, Decent, Civil people handle things like this together all the time, do you call the police every time somebody does something that you dont agree with??

[thispego]

Travis, how old are your kids?

[travis2]

Travis, how old are your kids?

17 and (almost) 15.

[thispego]

they mind you pretty well? do they ever lie and stuff?

[travis2]

they mind you pretty well? do they ever lie and stuff?

Yeah, they're good kids. They have lied, yes...all kids lie at some point. But they aren't very good at it. And we've had certain problems with growing up...big problems to us, but small ones in the grand scheme of things. And we keep our eyes open anyway.

They are involved in stuff outside of school...that helps. And we pay attention to grades and push them academically. They hear good things from us when they do well...and they get punished when they do something wrong.

In other words...we are parents...not friends, not baby-sitters.

[thispego]

sounds like your doing a fine job.
The way you are "strict parent" and "idealist", reminds me of my mom

[Flea]

Why does the law have to get involved in everything? Sure, maybe one of the boys parents would have found out, but dont you think they would have called the parents who hired the stripper first? to get the story straight??? Sane, Decent, Civil people handle things like this together all the time, do you call the police every time somebody does something that you dont agree with??


Thispego, this has nothing to do with me or disagreeing with anyone. You are accusing this place of not minding their own business when they were doing what was legally expected of them. You may not agree with the law, and heck they may not even agree with it....you have no idea whether they do or not. This is not their fault, they may be fearing legal repercussions, who knows. You are acting as if they were the ones to blame when they weren't.

I personally don't think much of people who would hire a stripper for their teenage son but if I found out that happened at a party I would keep it to myself. THAT is minding my own business. However, If I had a business that was somehow involved with this and I wanted to protect my livelihood then I would report it. BIG difference!!! Why is that so difficult for you to understand???

[SWC Bonfire]

So Trav, if he was determined to go out, you would attempt physically force him to stay home? Or what would you do?

I'm asking because I graduated highschool when I was 16. I had scholarships to go to UCLA in the fall. And graduation night, we all went to a house party. There was alcohol there and all us honor students were drinking. And the parents were home. No one got drunk. No one drove. And all was safe. Yes, I understand it's breaking the law, but I'd rather that than to have my kids unsupervised or driving while drinking.

I think the point of the thread is that it is not appropriate to allow other parents to decide if a behavior is appropriate or not. If the parents disapprove of such behavior, they should not allow their minor to associate with these people, and they should inform their offspring of what to do and how to remove themselves from the company of people doing things of which they do not approve.

Just tell 'em if they aren't home by curfew they vill be SHOT und hanged until zey are dead.

[travis2]

sounds like your doing a fine job.
The way you are "strict parent" and "idealist", reminds me of my mom

I appreciate that. It's not an easy job...if you do it right. Which is all one can hope for in parenting.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

I really don't have much to add to this thread that hasn't already been added, but I will tell you this.

I will never make the mistake of thinking I know my kids enough to think they aren't doing what I did at their age. Because thats what it is, a mistake.

[thispego]

I personally don't think much of people who would hire a stripper for their teenage son but if I found out that happened at a party I would keep it to myself. THAT is minding my own business. However, If I had a business that was somehow involved with this and I wanted to protect my livelihood then I would report it. BIG difference!!! Why is that so difficult for you to understand???
I'm in total agreeance with you here.
I'm not even sure why i brought this back up, I had to rush off to class earlier though without finishing.
If you would look at my original post

Mind your own fucking business people!!! What did the photo developer say? "I was looking at some pictures that I developed (even though Im not supposed to) and thought that these guys looked like minors.)

I got pulled over one time after buying beer at a convenient store because some person pumping gas at the time saw me walk outside with a case of beer and thought I looked too young to be 21.... and then called the police!!!!!!!!!!! He asked for my id then apologized and I asked him what it was all about, when he told me I was OUTRAGED.....

Mind You Own Business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You'll see that the point i was trying to make is that people in general need to mind their own business. People are always so concerned about what others are doing and always feel the need to get involved, do they not have any problems of their own to attend to?

Now I really think this debate went the wrong way, I dont condone what the parents did, I think it's wrong, and I'm not upset they are getting punished. I am, however, upset they are getting punished because the photo lab decided to just turn over the film, (that the family was PAYING them to develop in confidence), as evidence. It's not like they had a birth certificate with a picture i.d. attached to the film. The photo lab person didnt want to give this stranger the benefit of the doubt and not put these people through the hassle of police interference? Now these peoples' records are besmirched forever.

[thispego]

true that Manny

[Kori Ellis]

I am, however, upset they are getting punished because the photo lab decided to just turn over the film, (that the family was PAYING them to develop in confidence), as evidence. It's not like they had a birth certificate with a picture i.d. attached to the film. The photo lab person didnt want to give this stranger the benefit of the doubt and not put these people through the hassle of police interference? Now these peoples' records are besmirched forever.

Well this depends. Is there a rule at the photo lab that if they see any photos of nudity and minors are present that they need to report it? Or is it if they see nudity OF a minor that they need to report it? Or is it if they see any laws being apparently broken that they have to report it? (For example if they saw picture of someone smoking a joint, would they report it?)

I don't know the answer. I don't work at Foto-Mat.

[Flea]

I do agree that the person pumping gas was out of line. As far as I'm concerned if the clerk sold it to you then no one else should interfere. However, the clerk had every right to ask you for ID, correct? If he didn't and you were under age he probably would have been fired and that business could have had their beer and wine license revoked. Again.....we are talking about the laws in place and the businesses who have to legally abide by them.

[thispego]

thats a good point Kori... you're probably not going to turn something in to be developed if it shows you doing something obviously illegal

[Useruser666]

Digital cameras and paper sacks solve all of these problems! :lol

[SpursWoman]

I got pulled over one time after buying beer at a convenient store because some person pumping gas at the time saw me walk outside with a case of beer and thought I looked too young to be 21.... and then called the police!!!!!!!!!!! He asked for my id then apologized and I asked him what it was all about, when he told me I was OUTRAGED.....



Well, if it makes you feel any better, thispego....I got carded for cigarettes yesterday and the guy in line behind me laughed.


:flipoff :depressed

[travis2]

:lol

I really don't have much to add to this thread that hasn't already been added, but I will tell you this.

I will never make the mistake of thinking I know my kids enough to think they aren't doing what I did at their age. Because thats what it is, a mistake.

I've never said that...

[travis2]

I'm in total agreeance with you here.
I'm not even sure why i brought this back up, I had to rush off to class earlier though without finishing.
If you would look at my original post

You'll see that the point i was trying to make is that people in general need to mind their own business. People are always so concerned about what others are doing and always feel the need to get involved, do they not have any problems of their own to attend to?

Now I really think this debate went the wrong way, I dont condone what the parents did, I think it's wrong, and I'm not upset they are getting punished. I am, however, upset they are getting punished because the photo lab decided to just turn over the film, (that the family was PAYING them to develop in confidence), as evidence. It's not like they had a birth certificate with a picture i.d. attached to the film. The photo lab person didnt want to give this stranger the benefit of the doubt and not put these people through the hassle of police interference? Now these peoples' records are besmirched forever.

thispego, ObiWanGinobili posted what the laws in Texas are like concerning this. If the laws in Tennessee are similar (and I wouldn't be surprised if they were) the photo lab tech may not have had the choice.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Well this depends. Is there a rule at the photo lab that if they see any photos of nudity and minors are present that they need to report it? Or is it if they see nudity OF a minor that they need to report it? Or is it if they see any laws being apparently broken that they have to report it? (For example if they saw picture of someone smoking a joint, would they report it?)

I don't know the answer. I don't work at Foto-Mat.


here's how it goes, form the photo lab place:

nudity- ok
freaky nudity- ok
nudity with animals- not ok, but not reportable
nudity OF children (under18) - must report
nudity WITH children (under18) - must report
smokin joint - not reportable
huge palates of processed cocaine- not reportable, but someone probebly would just out of thier own conscious.

also- to avoid the "is it a minor?" question many Texas labs are now refusing to print photos with any type of nudity. If you took some home nudy photos, make sure you ask for the out lab service.. they are sent to albequerque.

[thispego]

That's exactly where it's going, Digital Cameras. Nobody wants to use film anymore like somone said earlier: batteries, film, develpemnt, costs a shitload of money....

I do agree that the person pumping gas was out of line. As far as I'm concerned if the clerk sold it to you then no one else should interfere. However, the clerk had every right to ask you for ID, correct? If he didn't and you were under age he probably would have been fired and that business could have had their beer and wine license revoked. Again.....we are talking about the laws in place and the businesses who have to legally abide by them.
You say that the photo lab fears repercussions for not turning them in???? That doesnt sound right at all. So we should all turn somebody in to the authorities if we think that they MIGHT have commited some infraction remotely outside the lines of the law. Sounds like the government has some people scared.
More likely, if it had not been reported by the photo lab, the family would have gotten their photos back, and the local drug store photo lab could have kept one more happy customer....... At least until photo labs are run out of business alltogether by the onlsaught of Digital Cameras.

[Kori Ellis]

Obiwan, just out of curiousity, why are the drug ones "not reportable"?

[thispego]

Well, if it makes you feel any better, thispego....I got carded for cigarettes yesterday and the guy in line behind me laughed.


:flipoff :depressed
HHAH :lol
Hey SW, it happens to me allll the time.

[bigzak25]

smokin joint - not reportable



fuk yah!!! :smokin

[Shelly]

Well, if it makes you feel any better, thispego....I got carded for cigarettes yesterday and the guy in line behind me laughed.


:flipoff :depressed


:lol Did you give the guy behind you the stink eye?

I'm not that naive that I don't think my children aren't gonna try anything. We are a lot more lenient than most parents when it comes to music and some tv shows. My kids hear me swear all the time, although I do try to curb it.

However, the one thing that scares me the most is drinking and driving. I know they are gonna be places where their will be booze. I'm in total agreement with Flea on this whole issue. But I will never, ever allow underage drinking in my home. In today's sue-happy society, that's not a chance I'm willing to take.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Personaly I've processed or supervised the processing of tons of nudity, sex and drug scenes. As I had mentioned before I have had to report a customer, just one however out of thousands of rolls.
My absolute fav of all time was a roll of a family B-Day party for a kid where they ogt one of those blow-up jumping castles..... at the end of the roll it's nighttime , party's over, kids in bed.. and the parents decided to test that jumpin castle in ways you'd never dreamed. :lmao

[thispego]

here's how it goes, form the photo lab place:

nudity- ok
freaky nudity- ok
nudity with animals- not ok, but not reportable
nudity OF children (under18) - must report
nudity WITH children (under18) - must report
smokin joint - not reportable
huge palates of processed cocaine- not reportable, but someone probebly would just out of thier own conscious.

also- to avoid the "is it a minor?" question many Texas labs are now refusing to print photos with any type of nudity. If you took some home nudy photos, make sure you ask for the out lab service.. they are sent to albequerque.

good stuff obiwan, we could have put this one to bed a long time ago....
but anyways, my main theme remains, I guess it is from growing up Victoria where NOONE minds their own business.... just letting some of my furstartion out

[thispego]

Personaly I've processed or supervised the processing of tons of nudity, sex and drug scenes. As I had mentioned before I have had to report a customer, just one however out of thousands of rolls.
My absolute fav of all time was a roll of a family B-Day party for a kid where they ogt one of those blow-up jumping castles..... at the end of the roll it's nighttime , party's over, kids in bed.. and the parents decided to test that jumpin castle in ways you'd never dreamed. :lmao
AHAHAHAH that's great :lol

[SpursWoman]

and the parents decided to test that jumpin castle in ways you'd never dreamed. :lmao


Holy crap! I believe I told User I wanted to get one of those one weekend....and my daughter's birthday is next month, too....

:lmao :eyebrows :lmao :lmao

[SpursWoman]

HHAH :lol
Hey SW, it happens to me allll the time.


Yeah, but I'm 33 and look it. :cry :lol

[ObiwanGinobili]

Obiwan, just out of curiousity, why are the drug ones "not reportable"?

well for one, we arn't required by law to do so.
Also, as far as I know you can't be prosecuted with a picture of you smokin a joint.. it could be herbal for all they know. It's along the same vein that if your walking down the street and a cop stops you and you smell like weed.... they can detain and harrass you for awhile, but they can only bring you in if you are visually impaired, or if they find a joint on you.
I think the laws on this issue are pretty much written with a view to protecting children. thats how I've always seen it.

[ObiwanGinobili]

good stuff obiwan, we could have put this one to bed a long time ago....
but anyways, my main theme remains, I guess it is from growing up Victoria where NOONE minds their own business.... just letting some of my furstartion out


thats why I moved away , far far away from victoria. that place screws with your mind. :fro

[ObiwanGinobili]

Holy crap! I believe I told User I wanted to get one of those one weekend....and my daughter's birthday is next month, too....

:lmao :eyebrows :lmao :lmao

use a digital camera! :angel :lol

[Useruser666]

For the record, I was not the guy behind SW in that line. :lol

[Shelly]

For the record, I was not the guy behind SW in that line. :lol


:rollin

[gay abc]

Holy crap! I believe I told User I wanted to get one of those one weekend....and my daughter's birthday is next month, too....

:lmao :eyebrows :lmao :lmao


:lol

can't wait for the pictures :lol

[SpursWoman]

:lol

can't wait for the pictures :lol


Seriously...I've even checked in to the $$.... renting v. buying my own. :smokin

[Flea]

good stuff obiwan, we could have put this one to bed a long time ago....
but anyways, my main theme remains, I guess it is from growing up Victoria where NOONE minds their own business.... just letting some of my furstartion out



Well that explains it all. :lol

[Flea]

:lol

can't wait for the pictures :lol


:lol

[Flea]

So we should all turn somebody in to the authorities if we think that they MIGHT have commited some infraction remotely outside the lines of the law. Sounds like the government has some people scared.



:bang

I never said that and I am tired of trying to explain the difference.

[Useruser666]

:lol

can't wait for the pictures :lol


Crap, instead of me worrying about a guy looking at my gf, I have to worry about a guy looking at me! :lol

[SpursWoman]

If you got it, flaunt it! :eyebrows :makeout :lol :lol

[Useruser666]

If the son gets a stripper I wonder what the husband gets for his birthday?

[ObiwanGinobili]

If the son gets a stripper I wonder what the husband gets for his birthday?


A gift card for the Bunny Ranch???

[TDMVPDPOY]

One time i was at my friends 21st party, his sister got this hot stripper :D, half way through the act the mother comes out screaming wtf is goin on hahaha, and the show stop and also the party died down and we all left.

[timvp]

:lol @ ablounge

[ShoogarBear]

I can name several things that my SO does/can do that turn me to jello, too. Drooling on myself, babbling incoherently...etc.


(I haven't read ahead to see if somebody beat me to this . . .)

So User drooling on you and babbling incoherently turns you into Jello?

Kin-keee.