Couple Sentenced for Hiring Son a Stripper

[blaze89]

Couple Sentenced for Hiring Son a Stripper
Fri Jul 8, 2005

A couple pleaded guilty Thursday to hiring a stripper for their son's 16th birthday party and were sentenced to two years probation.

Landon and Anette Pharris, who were charged with contributing the delinquency of a minor, also were ordered to take parenting classes.

The parents hired the stripper to perform at a September party attended by about a dozen young people.

Cassandra Joyce Park, 29, who police say used the stage name "Sassy," danced for a few hours before partygoers took up a collection and paid her $150 more to fully disrobe, Anette Pharris said.

The stripper and the man she was with were also granted probation.

Police were tipped off to the party by a photo developer at a drug store who saw pictures of the occasion.

Pharris said after being arrested that she tried to do something special for her son.

"We even had grandpa there," she said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/birthday_stripper

[Banks91]

yo wish i had parents like that

[SpursWoman]

That's disturbing. :fro

[scott]

SW, I never got to say thank you for lending me the bail money for folks on this one. You were a life saver!

[thispego]

Police were tipped off to the party by a photo developer at a drug store who saw pictures of the occasion.
Mind your own fucking business people!!! What did the photo developer say? "I was looking at some pictures that I developed (even though Im not supposed to) and thought that these guys looked like minors.)

I got pulled over one time after buying beer at a convenient store because some person pumping gas at the time saw me walk outside with a case of beer and thought I looked too young to be 21.... and then called the police!!!!!!!!!!! He asked for my id then apologized and I asked him what it was all about, when he told me I was OUTRAGED.....

Mind You Own Business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scott]

I'm sure the developer and guy pumping gas were just acting in accordance with the Patriot Act and trying to fight terrorism...... or something.

[thispego]

Yeah, they are very American, noone can doubt that
they are just helping to stop potential terrorism

[Cant_Be_Faded]

its reasons like this that violent action does occur...ignorant people

[Dex]

Some people get their kicks out of ratting out others for no reason other than to tattle.

Said people need to remove a certain object from a certain area of their body.

[CalsonicKansei]

you got that off of ebaumworld.com which got it off of another website, in the third person.

[Johnny Tightlips]

i ain't sayin' nothin'

[travis2]

Mind your own fucking business people!!! What did the photo developer say? "I was looking at some pictures that I developed (even though Im not supposed to) and thought that these guys looked like minors.)

I got pulled over one time after buying beer at a convenient store because some person pumping gas at the time saw me walk outside with a case of beer and thought I looked too young to be 21.... and then called the police!!!!!!!!!!! He asked for my id then apologized and I asked him what it was all about, when he told me I was OUTRAGED.....

Mind You Own Business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh really, fuckwad? How about the times when some sick fuck takes "art shots" (yeah, right) of kids for his own sick pleasure...you think the developer is just supposed to "mind {his} own fucking business"?

If you don't think shit like that happens, you need to get away from the fucking computer and get a life. Oh, and STFU while you're at it.

[travis2]

uh

i don't think most child pornographers use HEB photo

Did I say "most"?? No. Try working on that reading comprehension.

[travis2]

try reading for tone

"Mind your own fucking business people" is pretty clear on "tone", ya think?

[travis2]

i didn't say that

I didn't say you did. I addressed the person who did say it. You stepped in on me, not the other way around.

[travis2]

anyone ever seen One Hour Photo with Robin Williams?

that shit was creepy

No, I haven't seen it. But I can believe that sort of shit happens too.

[GoldToe]

I can't picture my parents doing that for me.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

now honestly people put it in proper context

this is america

if you stay up past 10 you see titties and half naked chicks with small ass bars covering the nipples and pubic hair, etc.....and you're chastizing parents for giving their 16 year old son something he probably wants more than anything in the world...
titties in his face

[mookie2001]

in regards to thispegos post

Oh really, fuckwad? How about the times when some sick fuck takes "art shots" (yeah, right) of kids for his own sick pleasure...you think the developer is just supposed to "mind {his} own fucking business"?

If you don't think shit like that happens, you need to get away from the fucking computer and get a life. Oh, and STFU while you're at it.
what exactly did he say that set you off?
do you NOT think people should mind their own business?

[travis2]

in regards to thispegos post

what exactly did he say that set you off?
do you NOT think people should mind their own business?

In general, yes I believe people should mind their own business.

However, providing a stripper for your underage child comes under the heading of child abuse. Knowledge of such needs to be reported.

Or do YOU think that child abuse comes under the "mind your own business" category?

[Marklar MM]

Damn. If my parents hired a stripper for my birthday party, I would do whatever they wanted for the next week.

[CosmicCowboy]

In general, yes I believe people should mind their own business.

However, providing a stripper for your underage child comes under the heading of child abuse. Knowledge of such needs to be reported.

Or do YOU think that child abuse comes under the "mind your own business" category?

Damn I wish my old man had been more creative in how he abused me. That sounds like it would be a hell of a lot more fun than the belt buckle he used...

[Cant_Be_Faded]

In general, yes I believe people should mind their own business.

However, providing a stripper for your underage child comes under the heading of child abuse. Knowledge of such needs to be reported.

Or do YOU think that child abuse comes under the "mind your own business" category?


i think your a nosy snob who has no idea of the dynamics of the relationship between the mother father and son of the story...

maybe they thought he was mature enough to handle TITTIES in his fucking face
dude shit like this is on TV all day its people like you who hypocritically get mad when they show bloodied beat up children on tv yet also watch most extreme car accidents 4

you no jack shit about that family what gives your lame ass priority over the kids parents to know what is good for him

what harm comes of getting a sixteen year old testosterone filled boy a few lap dances?????

[sa_butta]

I remember hearing about that story and wondered what was going to happen to the parents. Thats some funny shit I wish my parents had done that for me. Thats alright though cause I saw some strippers when I was 14 at my grandfathers 75th birthday. Shit I thought it was my birthday.

[travis2]

i think your a nosy snob who has no idea of the dynamics of the relationship between the mother father and son of the story...

maybe they thought he was mature enough to handle TITTIES in his fucking face
dude shit like this is on TV all day its people like you who hypocritically get mad when they show bloodied beat up children on tv yet also watch most extreme car accidents 4

you no jack shit about that family what gives your lame ass priority over the kids parents to know what is good for him

what harm comes of getting a sixteen year old testosterone filled boy a few lap dances?????

Ah yes...and when your son date-rapes a girl, you'll be saying "she shouldn't have led him on", or "boys will be boys" or some other "lame-ass" witticism?

I don't watch shit like "extreme car accidents 4".

[SpursWoman]

i think your a nosy snob who has no idea of the dynamics of the relationship between the mother father and son of the story...

maybe they thought he was mature enough to handle TITTIES in his fucking face
dude shit like this is on TV all day its people like you who hypocritically get mad when they show bloodied beat up children on tv yet also watch most extreme car accidents 4

you no jack shit about that family what gives your lame ass priority over the kids parents to know what is good for him

what harm comes of getting a sixteen year old testosterone filled boy a few lap dances?????


So, would you be as content watching a male stipper stick his dick in your 16 year old daughter's face? 16 year old girls have lusty hormones, too.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

So, would you be as content watching a male stipper stick his dick in your 16 year old daughter's face? 16 year old girls have lusty hormones, too.


All I was saying is that for all we know those parents knew their son was mature enough to handle tits in his face. Who are we to say no its impossible for a sixteen year old to have exactly 2 years of maturity more in his body. Oh no no you gotta be exactly 2 years older to have just the right enough maturity to handle tits in your face young man.

[CosmicCowboy]

I accidentally walked in and saw my great grandmother nekkid when I was about 12 and it fucking took me years to get over THAT horrible experience...:lol

[ObiwanGinobili]

Mind your own fucking business people!!! What did the photo developer say? "I was looking at some pictures that I developed (even though Im not supposed to) and thought that these guys looked like minors.)


Well ACTUALLY......

I used to be the manager of a photo LAB and :
1. yes tehy techs have to look at your pictures for quality checks. Color problems, chemical problems, paper probelms, scratchs, off center/kilter, etc etc. So that they can be fixed BEFORE the customer picks up thier photos.
2. It is Texas law that any photos of a sexual nature where minors or possible minors are also in the frame weather directly involved in the activity or just viewing; must be reported to local police or sherris's department.

I personally have only had to report 1 person. This involved pictures of a naked fat 8yr old covered in choclate cake and sitting on a filthy mattress. Come to find out the girl was not being sexually exploited, but she was living in absolute filth and was not being properly cared for. Her mother had mental problems and was unmedicated. So I don't in anyway feel guilty about it.
What you see in pictures is only a part of the story... you can't say weather its a good story or a bad story. You have to leave that in someone else's hands.

[SpursWoman]

All I was saying is that for all we know those parents knew their son was mature enough to handle tits in his face. Who are we to say no its impossible for a sixteen year old to have exactly 2 years of maturity more in his body. Oh no no you gotta be exactly 2 years older to have just the right enough maturity to handle tits in your face young man.


Your child is your child, not one of your drinking buddies.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

yes exactly and their child is their child so who are we to say they did not properly assess their child's maturity just because WE or YOU don't approve?
their child
not yours

[SpursWoman]

And you can bet your ass if they were beating their children I'd report them.



And :flipoff the photolab people at HEB that wouldn't develop all of my Cancun pictures. I was 30. :lol

[ObiwanGinobili]

Your child is your child, not one of your drinking buddies.


:tu

exactly.
shouldn't parents be imparting moral guidlines to thier children?
what ever happened to "training up a boy according to what is right for him"?

I'm wondering what kind of presents he got at his party (besides the strippers)? A bag of weed? A gift subscription to Hustler? A handy pocket container of GHB?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

spurswoman i totally agree about beating but alot of that falls under this category too

sometimes people report parents just plain old spanking their kids....where is the line?

ive received some pretty brutal spankings in my day and looking back i totally think i deserved each one of them...you can bet your butt that if my kids pulled some of the stuff i did that they will get the same treatment.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I'm wondering what kind of presents he got at his party (besides the strippers)? A bag of weed? A gift subscription to Hustler? A handy pocket container of GHB?


if you seriously think weed and GHB is comparable to getting tits in your face then i am now realizing why these parents were reported

[CosmicCowboy]

spurswoman i totally agree about beating but alot of that falls under this category too

sometimes people report parents just plain old spanking their kids....where is the line?

ive received some pretty brutal spankings in my day and looking back i totally think i deserved each one of them...you can bet your butt that if my kids pulled some of the stuff i did that they will get the same treatment.

For what it's worth we managed to raise two kids to be responsible adults without ever laying a hand on them.

Having been the recipient of some pretty brutal beatings as a kid I was determined we would do things differently.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

For what it's worth we managed to raise two kids to be responsible adults without ever laying a hand on them.

Having been the recipient of some pretty brutal beatings as a kid I was determined we would do things differently.


thats actually bad ass cosmic, if youre telling the truth, cuz i fully believe spankings are necessary.

i know im a good kid, i know right from wrong very well, i have morals, and i can honestly say i would not have turned out well if my parents did not spank me. i would have ran all over them...

[SpursWoman]

ive received some pretty brutal spankings in my day and looking back i totally think i deserved each one of them...you can bet your butt that if my kids pulled some of the stuff i did that they will get the same treatment.


I received quite my fair share of them too....and as a result have a pretty healthy respect for authority. I was never abused or treated badly, and I deserved every freaking one of them. My mom was flat out not taking any of my shit and she backed it up.


The line? Spanking on the ass or slapping a hand is one thing, punching in the face or burning with a cigarette is another.

And regardless of whether or not people agree morally with what they did ... the child was a MINOR. Period. Don't you have to be at least 18 to get into one of those clubs anyway? When I was around that age, it was at least 19.

[Shelly]

All I was saying is that for all we know those parents knew their son was mature enough to handle tits in his face. Who are we to say no its impossible for a sixteen year old to have exactly 2 years of maturity more in his body. Oh no no you gotta be exactly 2 years older to have just the right enough maturity to handle tits in your face young man.


Well, the question is this. Did the parent's of the OTHER kids at the party know there was going to be a stripper there? I'm sure a lot of parents would be pissed to find that out.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I received quite my fair share of them too....and as a result have a pretty healthy respect for authority.


The line? Spanking on the ass is one thing, punching in the face or burning with a cigarette is another.

And regardless of whether or not people agree morally with what they did ... the child was a MINOR. Period. Don't you have to be at least 18 to get into one of those clubs anyway? When I was around that age, it was at least 19.


i agree on the line.


and yes the child is a minor but the term minor is a concept made by modern society, its a rule imposed upon us by people who (we for some reason) think are "higher" than us and "smarter" than us...

all i am trying to say is that the only ones who would ever be able to truely determine if this kid could handle something he most assuredly would be experiencing in exactly 730 days later, is his parents.....there are some sick parents out there and if they did it just to do it then ok thats wrong, if they did it an honestly thought he was mature hten thats ok too

just saying 'he's a minor' is the reason it was wrong IS wrong imo
some parents see no problem in letting their kids smoke or drink

[bigzak25]

cool parents. as long as the kid deserved it? had good grades and was a good kid, i don't have a problem with it.

of course it's different with a girl. it's called a double standard, get used to it, it's not going away.

and i agree people should mind there own business or use their better judgement.

any obvious child negligence or abuse of course should be reported. but this? c'mon.

the bastard that reported it probobaly made copies for himself.

[travis2]

I received quite my fair share of them too....and as a result have a pretty healthy respect for authority. I was never abused or treated badly, and I deserved every freaking one of them. My mom was flat out not taking any of my shit and she backed it up.


The line? Spanking on the ass or slapping a hand is one thing, punching in the face or burning with a cigarette is another.

And regardless of whether or not people agree morally with what they did ... the child was a MINOR. Period. Don't you have to be at least 18 to get into one of those clubs anyway? When I was around that age, it was at least 19.

I would think it's 21 now...seeing as they are basically bars.

[bigzak25]

18 for all nude. byob.

21 for the rest.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

When one of my younger brothers was a freshman in high school he went to a party for one of his classmates where the mom was giving all the kids alcohol and encouraging them to hook up with each other. She was involved in the action as well, I guess, actually feeling up some of the guys, getting almost naked herself and taking pictures of it all. I guess the dad was there too just taking it all in.

At the time my brother thought it was awesome of course, but looking back at it those parents were about how old I am now, and I can tell you that if I participated in something like that I'd deserve to go to jail. I would feel like the worst sort of pervert. Some things just ain't right. What these parents did for their kiddo in this article isn't that much different IMO.

[bigzak25]

so a mom trying to fuck her kids friends vs parents hiring a stripper = no difference?


well, that's one viewpoint.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

shit where were moms like this when i was in high school
omg :D

[MI21]

Odds are the kid is already banging away anyhoo, so what's the harm?

When I was 16 I managed to get myself into a variety of 18+ places. Buy alcohol. Go to Casino's, Clubs, Pubs, Skimpys and so on. I don't really see this as a big deal, especially if the kid is already sexually active and open about things of these nature. I had a stripper at my 18th, and I was no more mature at age 18 than 16. My experiences are relevant too, because I was 18 but a few years back, unlike many people who post here.

[Jekka]

of course it's different with a girl. it's called a double standard, get used to it, it's not going away.

Sorry, but I have to ask why it's okay to enfore the idea of the double standard.

[ObiwanGinobili]

My experiences are relevant too, because I was 18 but a few years back, unlike many people who post here.


For the record.
I'm 24.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Odds are the kid is already banging away anyhoo, so what's the harm?

When I was 16 I managed to get myself into a variety of 18+ places. Buy alcohol. Go to Casino's, Clubs, Pubs, Skimpys and so on. I don't really see this as a big deal, especially if the kid is already sexually active and open about things of these nature. I had a stripper at my 18th, and I was no more mature at age 18 than 16. My experiences are relevant too, because I was 18 but a few years back, unlike many people who post here.


exactly man its like ok i am too immature to engage in this action but i will be mature enough in exactly 4..3...2...1...ok its my birthday now i am officially mature enough according to lawmakers to enjoy great big boobs bouncing in my face

[mookie2001]

i dont think it should be up to people who work at photo labs to determine whether or not someone looks old enough to call the polce

[ObiwanGinobili]

god I swear there are some people out there that are 25, 32 .. .even 40 and arn't "mature" enough to engage in those types of activities.

[ObiwanGinobili]

i dont think it should be up to people who work at photo labs to determine whether or not someone looks old enough to call the polce


run for state senate.

but if it's pics your neighbor brings in of your kid .... and they arn't exactly appropriate=You'd be really glad that the photo tech took the 4 secounds to flip thru the batch and thought.."hmmm littel johnny doesn't exactly look 18....nope...he looks more like 12"

[SpursWoman]

of course it's different with a girl. it's called a double standard, get used to it, it's not going away.




Funny....I used to have a friend in Jr. High that her parents did all kinds of shit like that, and shared with her. After the intial "You're parents are badass!" wore off the more time I spent with them...I realized I had ZERO respect for those people.

The last I heard, that *friend* is the epitome of "loser". Drug & alcohol problems, 3 kids by 2 different guys whom she never was married to, can't keep a job...and is turning out to be a terminal welfare recipient. I wonder if there's any correlation (not saying there is, of course) between that and the type of parental guidance she got?

And not that this instance is that extreme (since it's the only thing mentioned) but come on. I was like 26 years old when I watched There's Something About Mary with my DAD and it was mortifying. There's just some things that your parents should just NOT be involved with.

[bigzak25]

Sorry, but I have to ask why it's okay to enforce the idea of the double standard.



well, i'm not so much trying to enforce it as to accept it. it's the same reason teachers that screw their students, though both child molesters and sick, are looked upon a little differently when the teacher is a man or a woman.

[SpursWoman]

Wow, then I guess we as women should consider ourselves to be even moreso lucky that we can actually vote using that logic.

:fro

[mookie2001]

i got carded the other say when i bought zig zags
im not near 18
people look young
they shouldnt have to worry about photo techs deciding whether to bring criminal cases against them
have yall ever had a case?
its not fun

[Cant_Be_Faded]

the only way all of this will be solved is when AI robots take over certain jobs or when we give all up our freedoms to the W

[bigzak25]

i agree on the boundries between parents and children, and you guys are right. this definitely crosses the line.

if this is event was a microcosm of day to day life in the family, then yes, this is a problem, and reporting this to the authorites might have been the best thing.

however, if this is an isolated incident, where the child was rewarded, admittedly inappropriately, but as a one time deal? i'd be willing to say no harm no foul.

[Jekka]

Wow, then I guess we as women should consider ourselves to be even moreso lucky that we can actually vote using that logic.

:fro

No shit.

Why should it be accepted, Zak? I'm glad that many women are able to overlook the fact that many people will judge their actions by how they adhere or fail to adhere to the double standard. All the double standard does is reinforce the idea of Madonna vs Whore - and the last time I checked, that was only detrimental to women competing in a world where a man can avoid those kinds of labels.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

No shit.

Why should it be accepted, Zak? I'm glad that many women are able to overlook the fact that many people will judge their actions by how they adhere or fail to adhere to the double standard. All the double standard does is reinforce the idea of Madonna vs Whore - and the last time I checked, that was only detrimental to women competing in a world where a man can avoid those kinds of labels.


i think he was just trying to say that aren't showing signs of going away any time soon

[mookie2001]

well i wish i could know whats its like to get a guy to basically do anything for you by showing off your tits or rubbing up against him
thats a power men will never have

[SpursWoman]

well i wish i could know whats its like to get a guy to basically do anything for you by showing off your tits or rubbing up against him
thats a power men will never have



That's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not true. :lol :lol

[ObiwanGinobili]

well i wish i could know whats its like to get a guy to basically do anything for you by showing off your tits or rubbing up against him
thats a power men will never have

clean my house, fold my laundry, shop my grocery list, rub my feet and/or back.


and I will worship the ground you walk on.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

That's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not true. :lol :lol

which part

when my gf rubs her t's against me im like putty in her hands

[SpursWoman]

which part

when my gf rubs her t's against me im like putty in her hands



I can name several things that my SO does/can do that turn me to jello, too. Drooling on myself, babbling incoherently...etc.

So don't think you don't have any power with your woman. :lol

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I can name several things that my SO does/can do that turn me to jello, too. Drooling on myself, babbling incoherently...etc.

So don't think you don't have any power with your woman. :lol


name them...lol
when boy meets girl at the 50 cent club, i dont see the guy doing much to get the girl all over him that first night unless hes already incredibly good looking

[ObiwanGinobili]

I can name several things that my SO does/can do that turn me to jello, too. Drooling on myself, babbling incoherently...etc.


I agree. I hate the power he has over me! :princess

[mookie2001]

im not talking about relationships or household duties

a complete stranger whos got large titties can get a guy to do a lot of shit a guy would never for another guy or a guy would never for an elanor roosevelt type chick

[Cant_Be_Faded]

im not talking about relationships or household duties

a complete stranger whos got large titties can get a guy to do a lot of shit a guy would never for another guy or a guy would never for an elanor roosevelt type chick



Classic Thread. :tu

[bigzak25]

well, nobody has to accept it.
but it's not gonna change in our lifetimes.
keep fighting the good fight though.

it works against men too was my point. the lady teachers that are screwing their 16 year old students aren't as persecuted public opinion wise as say any older man screwing his 16 year old female student would.

and that is because an adult male taking a minors "madonna" (irony) label away is really taboo.

whereas the older female teacher?
well, she was a whore already...no harm, no foul.

and yeah, if some parents allowed a male stripper at a party my 16 year old daugther attended, i'd personally go over there and kick the dad's ass...although, it's highly unlikely that a dad would even be present in that family structure. So i'd probobaly let my wife handle it and give the other kids mom a talking to. Even then, now that i think about it? It sounds kind of funny. It's not like boys aren't trying to get into girls pants by 16 anyway. So a stripper sounds more like goofy fun then anything i'd get pissed at.

Serving alcohol/drugs would be another story all together.

[Jekka]

i think he was just trying to say that aren't showing signs of going away any time soon

Realistically, no, they're not going away any time soon, but people saying things like "learn to accept it" as Zak volunteered, sure as hell aren't helping. There's a difference between recognizing it and accepting it.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

so a mom trying to fuck her kids friends vs parents hiring a stripper = no difference?


well, that's one viewpoint.

For the record she was just grabbing asses. :angel


My point was just where do you draw the line? It's ok to buy your underage kid a stripper for their birthday. It's ok to buy your kid and his friends drinks, etc. etc.

I think you need to set a proper example as a parent. Let kids screw themselves up. . .on their own time.

[ObiwanGinobili]

im not talking about relationships or household duties

a complete stranger whos got large titties can get a guy to do a lot of shit a guy would never for another guy or a guy would never for an elanor roosevelt type chick

My husband thinks large titties are gross. and if a chick walked up to him and shock her rack in his face he probebly freak out, take a long hot hot shower with bleach and then haul ass to the free-clinic for testing.
Meanwhile I'd be laughing my ass off.

So I don't think we can lump all guys together like that.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

well ok not necessarily large then obiwan if a chick with perfectly normal B sized titties just wore a good bra to enhance cleavage and a low cut top then it would still have the same effect..i dont think the largeness was necessary

[Vashner]

HOW OLD Was the kid??? no one mentioned that yet...

[mookie2001]

a friend of mines dad used to smoke herb with her, buy some for her on her birthday, basically was really cool
the dad had a corvette and would drive around all day, smoke weed and listen to SRV
which is basically my lifes dream
and she hated him for it
supposedly he was "immature" and "irresponsible"
imagine that
you can be a ned flanders dad and be hated
or cool as shit and be hated
some parents are assholes
some kids are assholes

[ObiwanGinobili]

HOW OLD Was the kid??? no one mentioned that yet...

the article said 16.

[bigzak25]

I think you need to set a proper example as a parent. Let kids screw themselves up. . .on their own time.

agreed chopper.


Realistically, no, they're not going away any time soon, but people saying things like "learn to accept it" as Zak volunteered, sure as hell aren't helping. There's a difference between recognizing it and accepting it.


semantics Jekka. alright, i've learned to recognize it as reality in today's society.



My husband thinks large titties are gross.


and you believed him? :lmao

[SpursWoman]

HOW OLD Was the kid??? no one mentioned that yet...


re-read

[Cant_Be_Faded]

and you believed him? :lmao


lol!!!! :drunk

[ObiwanGinobili]

My mom was a great mom.
Sure I hated her at times. especially the 12-15 yrs. Ugh, I treated her like such shit.
But she stuck by her guns and continued doing her job of being my MOM... not my buddy, not my best friend.
I really respect her for that.
My mom was tough. She was strict. She never budged, never gave in. She was consistant. She would explain her reasoning.. and even if I didn't agree with her at least I knew why she did something or decided something.
Yes she spanked me. She also had 'creative' punishments that were sometimes worse.
She had standards of behavior, morals, standards of dress and cleanliness... and she expected us to adhere to them. No excuses.
My mom was amazing. My mom is amazing.
I want to be like my mom.
She was fun. She listened to me. She made me feel like I was important. I was a capable person. I was a worthy contributing member of the family.
Today my mom is one of my best friends... and she is also my mom.

[travis2]

My mom was a great mom.
Sure I hated her at times. especially the 12-15 yrs. Ugh, I treated her like such shit.
But she stuck by her guns and continued doing her job of being my MOM... not my buddy, not my best friend.
I really respect her for that.
My mom was tough. She was strict. She never budged, never gave in. She was consistant. She would explain her reasoning.. and even if I didn't agree with her at least I knew why she did something or decided something.
Yes she spanked me. She also had 'creative' punishments that were sometimes worse.
She had standards of behavior, morals, standards of dress and cleanliness... and she expected us to adhere to them. No excuses.
My mom was amazing. My mom is amazing.
I want to be like my mom.
She was fun. She listened to me. She made me feel like I was important. I was a capable person. I was a worthy contributing member of the family.
Today my mom is one of my best friends... and she is also my mom.

Sounds like my mom...

[ObiwanGinobili]

and you believed him? :lmao


truthfully I thought his blissful waxing on and on about cute perfectly hand sized titties with pink bunny nose nipples was a load of crap he would spout for my benefit.
5 yrs later I nursed out 1st child and had huge full and round DDD's. He was slightly less then happy. He tried to be tactfull. But it was quite clear that they were too big and the nipples were too large for his taste. He's never said directly "your tits are now too big and i hate it".. but he has reittereated several times that his personal taste is for "cute perfectly hand sized titties with pink bunny nose nipples".
so now I believe him.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

truthfully I thought his blissful waxing on and on about cute perfectly hand sized titties with pink bunny nose nipples was a load of crap he would spout for my benefit.
5 yrs later I nursed out 1st child and had huge full and round DDD's. He was slightly less then happy. He tried to be tactfull. But it was quite clear that they were too big and the nipples were too large for his taste. He's never said directly "your tits are now too big and i hate it".. but he has reittereated several times that his personal taste is for "cute perfectly hand sized titties with pink bunny nose nipples".
so now I believe him.



omg....................................thats like the stuff dreams are made of

[mookie2001]

SICK!!!!
large and round!
and big nipples!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

im sorry but i cant stop reading your post obiwan, its like you intentionally tried to make it sound sexy as hell

[SWC Bonfire]

cute perfectly hand sized titties

Some people's hands are larger than others...:lol

[ObiwanGinobili]

im sorry but i cant stop reading your post obiwan, its like you intentionally tried to make it sound sexy as hell


:lol
maybe thats just a sign you need to get laid?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

:lol
maybe thats just a sign you need to get laid?


no its just the sign of someone who dreams of getting time alone with triple Ds that are quote "large round and full" with nipples that are (is this possible?) "too large"

[mookie2001]

i wish chicks didnt even have nipples
and were flat chested

[ObiwanGinobili]

no its just the sign of someone who dreams of getting time alone with triple Ds that are quote "large round and full" with nipples that are (is this possible?) "too large"


yeah....... I'm definalty gettign a boob job back to normal when i'm done with these kids.

[MannyIsGod]

Lets be real. If you hire a stripper for your 16 your old kids birthday party - male or female - and get caught, you have no right to bitch. NONE. I'll agree the the laws are not absolute and that there are 16 year olds who can handle it, but the laws are in place because the vast majority of 16 year olds can't handle it. Yes, a parent can't show a 16 year old a movie that is rated R and has all kinds of breasts in it, but I don't see a problem with it being illegal when you bring a stripper into it. There is a line that needs to be placed between adults and children when it comes to sexuality and it needs to be a clear line.

I'm not going to sit here and argue that parents have some right to give their 16 year old a stripper for his birthday because I quite frankly don't think they have that right. In fact I would argue that the 16 year old has a right to be kept from such situations untill he is old enough to make that decision for himself.

The parents got off light, and I don't have a problem with that. I just hope they learned a lesson.

[mookie2001]

2 years probation is light?
the only thing harsher would have been jail time

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, 2 years of probation is light. It doesn't get much lighter than that. What the hell, would you prefer jail time?

[Shelly]

The problem is that too many parents are trying to be their kids' best friend and to be the cool parent.

I am not my kids' friend. I am their mother, eye roll be damned.

[ObiwanGinobili]

The problem is that too many parents are trying to be their kids' best friend and to be the cool parent.

I am not my kids' friend. I am their mother, eye roll be damned.


fucking ay!

[mookie2001]

i got 2 years probation for something worse that that (in the laws eyes)

i would take 6 months in JAIL over 2 years probation anyday of the week

[Cant_Be_Faded]

any month of the year

[MannyIsGod]

Mookie, you don't want to be in a jail for six months. I can't believe you would even think that would better than 2 years probation.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Mookie, you don't want to be in a jail for six months. I can't believe you would even think that would better than 2 years probation.


jail for some is easier than for others.

take thispego for example. he basically had his ass kissed for him when he went to jail.

[desflood]

The problem is that too many parents are trying to be their kids' best friend and to be the cool parent.

I am not my kids' friend. I am their mother, eye roll be damned.
Here here!

[travis2]

The problem is that too many parents are trying to be their kids' best friend and to be the cool parent.

I am not my kids' friend. I am their mother, eye roll be damned.


Gee, Shelly...you sound older than you look...:devil

[jcrod]

Well, the question is this. Did the parent's of the OTHER kids at the party know there was going to be a stripper there? I'm sure a lot of parents would be pissed to find that out.


This is what gets me!!!!!! Screw you own kid up, but don't fuck around with other peoples kids.

[SpursWoman]

This is what gets me!!!!!! Screw you own kid up, but don't fuck around with other peoples kids.


No kidding. I can safely say I would come unglued if my child had been at that party.

:wow :makemyday :devil

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, I'm probably one of the more liberal people when it comes to things like that, but fuck other people making the decsion for me.

[travis2]

No kidding. I can safely say I would come unglued if my child had been at that party.

:wow :makemyday :devil

mmmmmm...I think unglued would have better described the other parents if my child had been there...

[Cant_Be_Faded]

this thread was better when we were talking about large round full breasts

[ObiwanGinobili]

this thread was better when we were talking about large round full breasts


take a deep cleasing breath. :smokin

[SpursWoman]

take a deep cleasing breath. :smokin



:lmao


You know....I've never seen breasts as big as mine were right after I had my daughter.... :wow







































....too bad they were too gotdamn painful to touch. :lol :lol

[desflood]

:lmao


You know....I've never seen breasts as big as mine were right after I had my daughter.... :wow







































....too bad they were too gotdamn painful to touch. :lol :lol
:lol :lol :lol That's what my hubby said, "What good are porn star boobs if I can't touch 'em?"

[Shelly]

:lmao


You know....I've never seen breasts as big as mine were right after I had my daughter.... :wow

....too bad they were too gotdamn painful to touch. :lol :lol


No shit! My husbands eyes just about bugged out of his head. I looke him straight in the eye and said, "Don't even think about it!"

[E20]

OMFG MAN, If my Mom gave me a stripper for my BIRTHDAY OMG MAN I"D KISS MY MOM"S FEET AND DO ANYTHING FOR HER FOR A YEAR. But no fucking party, SHIT I ain't sharing my stripper with 12 other people and no pictures only video camera.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

hey a man can be gentle....

[ObiwanGinobili]

:lmao


You know....I've never seen breasts as big as mine were right after I had my daughter.... :wow



....too bad they were too gotdamn painful to touch. :lol :lol

and even the slightest touch and milk would shoot across the room! :lol

god, if I slept on my tummy or side I'd wake up in a puddle!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

and even the slightest touch and milk would shoot across the room! :lol

god, if I slept on my tummy or side I'd wake up in a puddle!


:spin

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

You know....I've never seen breasts as big as mine were right after I had my daughter....



....too bad they were too gotdamn painful to touch.


No shit! My husbands eyes just about bugged out of his head. I looke him straight in the eye and said, "Don't even think about it!"

Shel, I'm confused. Why was your husband looking at SW's breasts right after she had her daughter?

[SpursWoman]

Shel, I'm confused. Why was your husband looking at SW's breasts right after she had her daughter?



:lol :lol

[Shelly]

Shel, I'm confused. Why was your husband looking at SW's breasts right after she had her daughter?


I'll never tell......

[CrazyOne]

I would comment, but according to my vows I'm not allowed to "touch" this subject... :angel

[Johnny Tightlips]

LOL @ johnny tightlips from simpsons

who would create an ID wit that name?

:lmao


noone created me.

[lil'mo]

Oh really, fuckwad? How about the times when some sick fuck takes "art shots" (yeah, right) of kids for his own sick pleasure...you think the developer is just supposed to "mind {his} own fucking business"?

If you don't think shit like that happens, you need to get away from the fucking computer and get a life. Oh, and STFU while you're at it.
I gotta start paying attention to the threads i post in.
Naturally it should be reported if it is completely indecent and with an obviously underaged subject. But these kid were 16 years old, there was one naked woman there. Like others have mentioned it's nothing the kid had'nt seen before.... What business is it of the photo lab's? what business is it of anybodys? Dont attack me and make me sound like i think pedophiles should be allowed to run free.

I'm just saying that some people dont have anything better to do than butt into other peoples business and get involved.

[travis2]

I gotta start paying attention to the threads i post in.
Naturally it should be reported if it is completely indecent and with an obviously underaged subject. But these kid were 16 years old, there was one naked woman there. Like others have mentioned it's nothing the kid had'nt seen before.... What business is it of the photo lab's? what business is it of anybodys? Dont attack me and make me sound like i think pedophiles should be allowed to run free.

I'm just saying that some people dont have anything better to do than butt into other peoples business and get involved.

Get a clue.

16 = underage

stripper = "indecent"

That makes it the photo lab's business.

Hey, I'm as anti-police-state as ANYONE...but even so, if you and others can't see what's wrong with this, then just pull your genes out of the gene pool because we don't need any of your stupidity being passed on to the next generation.

[batman2883]

Man whats the difference they are going to see much worse things on Showtime and HBO, so they got a stripper big whoop back in high school we saw naked girls in Biology class. It's just plain stupid how this world is becoming so baby proof

[travis2]

Man whats the difference they are going to see much worse things on Showtime and HBO, so they got a stripper big whoop back in high school we saw naked girls in Biology class. It's just plain stupid how this world is becoming so baby proof

You've just proven my point about needing to keep the stupid genes out of the pool...:rolleyes

[batman2883]

How do you figure?? I mean you must be pretty stupid yourself if think that teenagers arent watching much worse things elsewhere? So they did it in the confines of their own home in front of their parents where nothing bad was going to happen??? Whats your debate on the subject?? Would you rather your 16 year old sneak into a strip club, cause it happens now days.

[SpursWoman]

Man whats the difference they are going to see much worse things on Showtime and HBO, so they got a stripper big whoop back in high school we saw naked girls in Biology class. It's just plain stupid how this world is becoming so baby proof


No shit, man....my 9 year old got into my *locked box* and saw everything that was in there. Her birthday is in a month....so fuck it, I'll just get her a vibrator! I'm mean, she's already seen them and everything!


:rolleyes

[batman2883]

No shit, man....my 9 year old got into my *locked box* and saw everything that was in there. Her birthday is in a month....so fuck it, I'll just get her a vibrator!


:rolleyes


Ha ha ha ha ha ha

[travis2]

How do you figure?? I mean you must be pretty stupid yourself if think that teenagers arent watching much worse things elsewhere? So they did it in the confines of their own home in front of their parents where nothing bad was going to happen??? Whats your debate on the subject?? Would you rather your 16 year old sneak into a strip club, cause it happens now days.

Oh sure, it happens all the time, so let's just say it's OK, right? Let kids drink at 14...hey, they do it already, so it must be OK. Let everyone drive at 12...hey, kids take joyrides all the time, right? Legalize drugs while we're at it too.

Heaven forbid you have a daughter who gets hit on or even date raped by some fuckwad who thinks just like you do.

There are things that are intrinsically wrong, and if you can't see that...do us all a favor and don't have kids because the rest of us will have to clean up your mess.

[ObiwanGinobili]

No shit, man....my 9 year old got into my *locked box* and saw everything that was in there. Her birthday is in a month....so fuck it, I'll just get her a vibrator! I'm mean, she's already seen them and everything!


:rolleyes

:lol

When I was 14 I had allready smoked some cig's with friends and really liked it. Damn! My parents were so asswipes for gettinf me newsneakers with my *grandma money*....... I really wanted a carton of reds. they shoulda just got me the cigs since I was allready using 'em. :rolleyes

[bigzak25]

so how many of you freak out when at say, a party and you see a parent give their kid or baby a sip of beer or something...how many of you are on the phone pushing your speed dial to child protective? :lmao

[SpursWoman]

What's "hahaha" about it? It's the same concept...introducing sexual activity to a minor child. Regardless of where they are in puberty they are still a minor child.

And I haven't seen too many people posting in this thread that think it's no big deal that actually HAVE children.

[SpursWoman]

so how many of you freak out when at say, a party and you see a parent give their kid or baby a sip of beer or something...how many of you are on the phone pushing your speed dial to child protective? :lmao


I've let my children taste it and they reacted just like I KNEW they would.


:vomit

[ObiwanGinobili]

Not to mention it's not exactly kosher for parents to be introducing or involved in anyway in thier child's sexual experiances.

[mookie2001]

i wouldnt call watching a stripper "sexual activity"




And I haven't seen too many people posting in this thread that think it's no big deal that actually HAVE children.

LOL
if i had kids id know the right way to view everything

[bigzak25]

Not to mention it's not exactly kosher for parents to be introducing or involved in anyway in thier child's sexual experiances.


what's the harm in that?

http://www.paraethos.com/images/allen.jpg

[SpursWoman]

Not to mention it's not exactly kosher for parents to be introducing or involved in anyway in thier child's sexual experiances.


Haven't you ever seen the movie Taboo? :vomit :vomit :lol

[travis2]

i wouldnt call watching a stripper "sexual activity"


:rolleyes

And therein lies the problem...

[ObiwanGinobili]

i wouldnt call watching a stripper "sexual activity"


yes, watchign a stripper produces the same emotional response as watchign the 6 o'clock news. my bad.

:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

[ObiwanGinobili]

what's the harm in that?

http://www.paraethos.com/images/allen.jpg


ewwwwwwwwwwww
:vomit

[mookie2001]

there are things sexual about it
but how is it "sexual activity"
if some chick strips for a guy, and theyre alone and shes not a stripper that may be
if its a large group and its the womans job i wouldnt call it sexual activity at all

[bigzak25]

watching the news can have a much more traumatizing effect on a child these days than one might think. it's murder after murder with a touch of corruption followed by the weather and sports. at best, they are only desensatized.

[SpursWoman]

i wouldnt call watching a stripper "sexual activity"


OMFG :lmao :lmao :lmao




if i had kids id know the right way to view everything


When that teeny-tiny, helpless little baby looks up at you for the very first time, and you know it's yours and only your responsibility to make sure it's protected and taken care of, you'll understand.

[SpursWoman]

there are things sexual about it
but how is it "sexual activity"
if some chick strips for a guy, and theyre alone and shes not a stripper that may be
if its a large group and its the womans job i wouldnt call it sexual activity at all


HER ENTIRE JOB IS TO GET YOUR DICK HARD...HOW IS THAT NOT SEXUAL?


:rollin :rollin

[travis2]

Unbelievable...

[ObiwanGinobili]

there are things sexual about it
but how is it "sexual activity"
if some chick strips for a guy, and theyre alone and shes not a stripper that may be
if its a large group and its the womans job i wouldnt call it sexual activity at all


the point of this whole thing has been:
It's bad parenting. It doesn't even qualify as parenting. The commom sence hiccup these people had is pretty freakin big. In no way is it appropriate or legal for a parent(s) to procure sexual entertainment (in this case a stripper) for thier underage child.

and since you;ve been arguning that it's :tu A.O.K... .well I'm glad you don't have kids.

[ObiwanGinobili]

What did Chris Rock say after his daughter was born??

"my entire job in life is to keep her off the pole"

:lol

[mookie2001]

she doesnt give a shit if your dicks hard or not
she gets paid the same

my dick gets hard from watching an ablounge commercial
is that sexual activity?


i love it when people describe to me how i'll feel when i have kids...
it makes me feel so...kidless

[ObiwanGinobili]

i love it when people describe to me how i'll feel when i have kids...
it makes me feel so...kidless


since obviously you are.
and people who have kids know what they are talking about since we at one time didnot have kids and can therefore relate back and actaully see the difference - from experiance. This ain't bullshit.

[travis2]

i love it when people describe to me how i'll feel when i have kids...
it makes me feel so...kidless

For our sake I hope it stays that way...

[SpursWoman]

she doesnt give a shit if your dicks hard or not
she gets paid the same

If she's not bringing in customers she gets replaced, so yes, it does matter how *entertaining* she is. Duh.




i love it when people describe to me how i'll feel when i have kids...
it makes me feel so...kidless


Then I suggest you stop speaking as though you have a fucking clue on the subject. Especially if you think what those parents did is okay.

[Shelly]

I'm not sure, but aren't photo labs required to report indecent pictures if they involve a minor?

[mookie2001]

since obviously you are.
and people who have kids know what they are talking about since we at one time didnot have kids and can therefore relate back and actaully see the difference - from experiance. This ain't bullshit.


When that teeny-tiny, helpless little baby looks up at you for the very first time, and you know it's yours and only your responsibility to make sure it's protected and taken care of, you'll understand.
it never fails
yall are so great, way to get pregnant!

the topic is about a 16 year old getting a stripper and now its about me being childless and not understanding things because of it

[Shelly]

And I haven't seen too many people posting in this thread that think it's no big deal that actually HAVE children.


Bingo. Never ceases to amaze me. Have some kids of your own and then get back to me.

[SpursWoman]

it never fails
yall are so great, way to get pregnant!

the topic is about a 16 year old getting a stripper and now its about me being childless and not understanding things because of it




Are you really this unbelievably obtuse?

[travis2]

I'm not sure, but aren't photo labs required to report indecent pictures if they involve a minor?

Yes.

[SpursWoman]

Bingo. Never ceases to amaze me. Have some kids of your own and then get back to me.

According to some, that acutal hands-on experience really doesn't mean shit. :shootme

[travis2]

Are you really this unbelievably obtuse?

My vote is "yes"...

[mookie2001]

i never said anything about what they did was "ok"

im just saying yalls chodes are exploding for no fucking reason at all
a year and a half later and this isnt even a story
yall will take any excuse to travel the moral "highground" and telling me i dont have kids
yall dont have size 12 black on black adidas superstars
but do you know what im talking about
would you ever have opinion on shoes?

[Shelly]

Mookie, you are clueless when it comes to kids. Don't come in here and think that you are going to convince a parent otherwise.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Here ya go Shelly :)



Well ACTUALLY......

I used to be the manager of a photo LAB and :
1. yes tehy techs have to look at your pictures for quality checks. Color problems, chemical problems, paper probelms, scratchs, off center/kilter, etc etc. So that they can be fixed BEFORE the customer picks up thier photos.
2. It is Texas law that any photos of a sexual nature where minors or possible minors are also in the frame weather directly involved in the activity or just viewing; must be reported to local police or sherris's department.

I personally have only had to report 1 person. This involved pictures of a naked fat 8yr old covered in choclate cake and sitting on a filthy mattress. Come to find out the girl was not being sexually exploited, but she was living in absolute filth and was not being properly cared for. Her mother had mental problems and was unmedicated. So I don't in anyway feel guilty about it.
What you see in pictures is only a part of the story... you can't say weather its a good story or a bad story. You have to leave that in someone else's hands.

[Shelly]

Thanks, Obi--I missed your post.

[mookie2001]

im clueless on kids
wow that makes yall experts
the thread is about a 16 year old and a stripper

dammit
i let me go find some big slut today so i can knock her up, then in 9 months i can be as knowledgable as yall about 16 year olds watching stripper
sorry i have dont have kids
i dont know what yall want me to say

[ObiwanGinobili]

i never said anything about what they did was "ok"

im just saying yalls chodes are exploding for no fucking reason at all
a year and a half later and this isnt even a story
yall will take any excuse to travel the moral "highground" and telling me i dont have kids
yall dont have size 12 black on black adidas superstars
but do you know what im talking about
would you ever have opinion on shoes?


now your not even making sense.
your just spouting off to be on the opposite side of the argument..... :rolleyes

[ObiwanGinobili]

im clueless on kids
wow that makes yall experts
the thread is about a 16 year old and a stripper

dammit
i let me go find some big slut today so i can knock her up, then in 9 months i can be as knowledgable as yall about 16 year olds watching stripper
sorry i have dont have kids
i dont know what yall want me to say


A. 16 yrs old is a child.
B. that stripper was hired by his PARENTS
C. knocking someone up will not make you a parent .. .. with that attitude it'll nmake you a SPERM DONOR

[Shelly]

im clueless on kids
wow that makes yall experts
the thread is about a 16 year old and a stripper

dammit
i let me go find some big slut today so i can knock her up, then in 9 months i can be as knowledgable as yall about 16 year olds watching stripper
sorry i have dont have kids
i dont know what yall want me to say

When it comes to kid, yeah, I guess the parents here would know more than you. Why is that so hard for you to understand that.

[SpursWoman]

I buy my minor children Nikes, Adidas, Reebok...whateverthefuck is the thing to have. Get back to me when it's illegal to do so, oh knower-of-the-size-12-Adidas. If my son's foot ever gets that big I'll be sure to consult your expertise, because I'm clueless about having a foot that big.


:lol

[ObiwanGinobili]

sorry i have dont have kids
i dont know what yall want me to say


:) how bout you just stop tryign to say we are wrong? :spin Since we are very very right?? :tu
thanks! :princess

[SpursWoman]

C. knocking someone up will not make you a parent .. .. with that attitude it'll nmake you a SPERM DONOR

OMFG, I used to call my ex-husband that all the time. :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Flea]

The thread is NOT about a 16yo and a stripper but about the PARENTS hiring the stripper.
The parents in this thread have every right to condemn the other parents for lack of judgement.

[ObiwanGinobili]

OMFG, I used to call my ex-husband that all the time. :lmao :lmao :lmao


:lol !!
thats what i call my dad!

[mookie2001]

when did i say you were wrong obiwan?
the last page we've basically been talking about how i dont know shit bc i dont have kids

[SWC Bonfire]

C. knocking someone up will not make you a parent .. .. with that attitude it'll nmake you a SPERM DONOR

I tried explaining that to the judge, but she wouldn't listen. Can I get you to write me a note?

[mookie2001]

And I haven't seen too many people posting in this thread that think it's no big deal that actually HAVE children.


When that teeny-tiny, helpless little baby looks up at you for the very first time, and you know it's yours and only your responsibility to make sure it's protected and taken care of, you'll understand.


and since you;ve been arguning that it's :tu A.O.K... .well I'm glad you don't have kids.

since obviously you are.
and people who have kids know what they are talking about since we at one time didnot have kids and can therefore relate back and actaully see the difference - from experiance. This ain't bullshit.


I suggest you stop speaking as though you have a fucking clue on the subject.

Mookie, you are clueless when it comes to kids. Don't come in here and think that you are going to convince a parent otherwise.


C. knocking someone up will not make you a parent .. ..

When it comes to kid, yeah, I guess the parents here would know more than you. Why is that so hard for you to understand that.


yall are so...fertile

[Flea]

when did i say you were wrong obiwan?
the last page we've basically been talking about how i dont know shit bc i dont have kids


You don't know shit about kids and raising them.

[travis2]

knocking someone up will not make you a parent .. .. with that attitude it'll nmake you a SPERM DONOR

Unfortunately, there are too many out there who really think the two are equivalent...

[SpursWoman]

yall are so...fertile



So, a beautician would know more about practicing medicine than a licensed doctor with 15 years of experience is basically what you're trying to say.


:lol


I think someone who's been raising children for the last 15 years would know a fuck-load more than someone who has never had to be responsible for anyone but themselves.

[ObiwanGinobili]

when did i say you were wrong obiwan?

ok, here you go.



im just saying yalls chodes are exploding for no fucking reason at all
a year and a half later and this isnt even a story


do you NOT think people should mind their own business?

i dont think it should be up to people who work at photo labs to determine whether or not someone looks old enough to call the polce


i wouldnt call watching a stripper "sexual activity"

etc. etc. etc.

these statements are in a vein of thought that is in direct disagreement with the "parents" point of view. they create an atmosphere of conflict without resolution; ie. "i'm right, you're wrong"


the last page we've basically been talking about how i dont know shit bc i dont have kids
seemingly sarcasticly. We can't tell if you are serious or pullign a "woe is me" attitude.
But thank you for clarifying. :tu I appreciate it. :princess

[ObiwanGinobili]

I tried explaining that to the judge, but she wouldn't listen. Can I get you to write me a note?
:oops
unless you wore 3 condoms, used a spremicide, the Today sponge, a female condom, and 2 difrfernt prescriptions of the pill............... then I'm sorry but I will be unable to write you an excuse for the judge. :lol :lol

[bigzak25]

well, unless you were ever a 16 year old male, you can go ahead and pipe down now since you don't know what you are talking about with regard to how an event like that can have any ill effects. :lmao

if it was me? as long as there weren't any of the female members of my family there?

party on. all in good fun.

[mookie2001]

please
dont think im personally attacking yall, jesus
it just seems yall are on the greatest soapbox ever made

i know it makes yall feel good to tell me i dont know shit
thats why im laughing
the responses
when i said id expect tim duncan to play in the finals if his wife was in labor you would have thought i had just revealed i was lucifer himself

[SWC Bonfire]

:lol

[mookie2001]

obiwan
those are great quotes, but i never said yall were wrong
which was my question
anyway if people who were in "direct disagreement" on spurstalk were treated with the malice yall have shown me
this would be a hate site

[ObiwanGinobili]

mookie I never said I thought TD should skip the finals if amy went into labor. Labor last a long time, and if it was my husaband I would've told him to go ahead I'll just hold out till he gets back.

Also this soapbox we are on is a GOOD THING. becasue the issue here is actually pretty big from a parents point of view. It was a serious infraction.

[ObiwanGinobili]

malice??
we basicaly told you to STFU casue you don';t know what your talking about.

sensitive a bit? You don't want us to feel personally attqacked.. fine I don't. really.
So go ahead and smooth your ruffled feathers for a moment also.

[mookie2001]

"serious"?
how serious is it compared to everyother crime
every crime involving children?
every crime involving parents?
every crime commited?
every crime involving "sexual activity"
not serious at all
thats my point

[SWC Bonfire]

Y'all are like hot coals; stir 'em with a stick and they erupt into flame! :lol

[ObiwanGinobili]

well, unless you were ever a 16 year old male, you can go ahead and pipe down now since you don't know what you are talking about with regard to how an event like that can have any ill effects. :lmao

if it was me? as long as there weren't any of the female members of my family there?

party on. all in good fun.


bigzak- would it make you feel better to know that my husband was also quite disgusted at these parents??
He has been a 16yr old boy and he said that if his parents had done somehting like that he would have lost all respect for them. He would have felt as tho he was suddenly a small dingy out on dangerous seas with no compass. Parental guidence gone straight out the window.
And he ain't no old fogey either, he's only 26.

[ObiwanGinobili]

"serious"?
how serious is it compared to everyother crime
every crime involving children?
every crime involving parents?
every crime commited?
every crime involving "sexual activity"
not serious at all
thats my point

to clarify:

this was a serious PARENTING infraction.
i'm very glad that they were ordered to parenting classes as part of the judgement. Although 16 yrs into thier tenure it may be too littel too late.

[travis2]

bigzak- would it make you feel better to know that my husband was also quite disgusted at these parents??
He has been a 16yr old boy and he said that if his parents had done somehting like that he would have lost all respect for them. He would have felt as tho he was suddenly a small dingy out on dangerous seas with no compass. Parental guidence gone straight out the window.
And he ain't no old fogey either, he's only 26.

I would have felt the same way at 16. Of course I knew my parents better than that...they would have done that about as much as they would turn into frogs...but someone else's parents would have lost my respect.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao @ mookie.

"ya'll are so fertile" has dying.

[MannyIsGod]

This is the longest thread on an undebatable subject. The parents were wrong.

[bigzak25]

bigzak- would it make you feel better to know that my husband was also quite disgusted at these parents??
He has been a 16yr old boy and he said that if his parents had done somehting like that he would have lost all respect for them. He would have felt as tho he was suddenly a small dingy out on dangerous seas with no compass. Parental guidence gone straight out the window.
And he ain't no old fogey either, he's only 26.






i think your husband tells you what you want to hear 100% of the time right now...

golden rule is to NEVER upset a pregnant woman.

i have the perspective of watching my dad walk out on my when i was 3.

and living under a dicktatorial stepdad for 13 years after that.

if Jesus threw me a stripper party? yeah, i might be thrown for a loop.

but if my dad or stepdad had done it? i'd be like, fuckin a.

some are coming off as having the perspective of a shangrila childhood, and utopian parenthood. i can understand that perspective is everything, but c'mon now.

[SpursWoman]

This is the longest thread on an undebatable subject. The parents were wrong.


How could they be? How could you possible agree with the majority of parents and the law? I mean, you were a 16 year old boy once... :fro

[MannyIsGod]

Oh I just meant about allowing cameras.

You're supposed leave no evidence! :lol

[bigzak25]

Oh I just meant about allowing cameras.

You're supposed leave no evidence! :lol



RACK! :lol :smokin

[ObiwanGinobili]

i think your husband tells you what you want to hear 100% of the time right now...

golden rule is to NEVER upset a pregnant woman.



:lol
I think my husband knows that if i ever found out he was untruthfull with me I'd beat the living shit out of him. :oops
I hate to be handled with kid gloves.. i'm not 5. If you can't tell me, your wife, the one whom you chose to become "one flesh" with they way you really feel about something even if I may not agree or have a different opinion - then why the fuck did we get married? If I wanted a "yes" man I would've hired a personal assistant. :spin

but thanks for that insight into my marriage. :smokin

[SWC Bonfire]

Oh I just meant about allowing cameras.

You're supposed leave no evidence! :lol

What happens at the 16th birthday party STAYS at the 16th birthday party.

[SpursWoman]

I hope to God some of ya'll find a woman with a better head on her shoulders than ya'll apparently have to reproduce with.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

SW, it was just a joke. I did think the parents were wrong.

:lmao @ What happens at the party stays at the party.

[Shelly]

Zak, you're married. Would your wife let you get your 16 year old son a stripper?

Mookie, don't give yourself that much credit. I never thought you were personally attacking me. But don't pull this passive shit like you did in this topic and the Tim Duncan's baby topic.

And I bet if the 16 year old in question was a FEMALE, (who have raging hormones too, dontchaknow), most of you maybe one day to be fathers wouldn't be singing the same tune.

[SpursWoman]

:lol

SW, it was just a joke. I did think the parents were wrong.

:lmao @ What happens at the party stays at the party.


I wasn't talking about you

[bigzak25]

Zak, you're married. Would your wife let you get your 16 year old son a stripper?

Shelly, she won't even let me go without giving me mucho drama.
And that was like 2-3 years ago for a friends birthday party. :lmao




And I bet if the 16 year old in question was a FEMALE, (who have raging hormones too, dontchaknow), most of you maybe one day to be fathers wouldn't be singing the same tune.

yeah, i admittedly look at that a little different. I think many times, mothers inherently look to protect their boys while fathers do the same with their daughters. If that was ever to happen? I'd let my wife handle that one. :smokin

[mookie2001]

yall just dont understand family

[travis2]

yall just dont understand family

uhhhh...no, it's you that just doesn't understand family...

[mookie2001]

let me know when you have kids

[travis2]

let me know when you have kids

I've had kids. For some time now. They're teenagers.

[mookie2001]

obviously you dont have kids

[travis2]

obviously you dont have kids

:rolleyes

[mookie2001]

maybe when you have kids youll understand

[SWC Bonfire]

I've had kids. For some time now. They're teenagers.

Keep them away from strippers or face the wrath of this forum! (and your wife). :lol

[travis2]

Keep them away from strippers or face the wrath of this forum! (and your wife). :lol

This forum be damned! They'll face my wrath, thankyouverymuch...

[mookie2001]

do i sound like a dumbass?




correct

[travis2]

do i sound like a dumbass?



:lmao

You'll get more answers than you want with that one...

[mookie2001]

the point was people repeating that someone doesnt have any kids is fucking stupid

[travis2]

the point was people repeating that someone doesnt have any kids is fucking stupid

I think we have many many examples of being "fucking stupid" in this thread...and many of them are yours.

[Shelly]

Who called you stupid?

But you are pulling the 'woe is me' shit.

[travis2]

Who called you stupid?

But you are pulling the 'woe is me' shit.

Actually, I did...but that was just now, so I forgive you...:lol

[mookie2001]

i never said anyone called me stupid

ok kori


does it get annoying when people constantly repeat that you have no kids?

[Shelly]

:lol yeah, I saw that after I posted.

[Shelly]

i never said anyone called me stupid

ok kori


does it get annoying when people constantly repeat that you have no kids?

I'm sure that Kori would be the first to admit that when it comes to kids that the parents on the board would probably know more on the subject than she does.

But since it bothers you so much and you have such great knowlege about child rearing, enlighten us.

[mookie2001]

no all that "woe is me", which i did in the tim duncan thread, not this one at all, was started by kori
i never claimed to know anything about child "rearing" or any other simlilar matter, but i can have my opinion on something i dont have, i know that hummers suck, i dont have one though
its just funny that yall sound so high and mighty because yall have kids and i dont

[travis2]

no all that "woe is me", which i did in the tim duncan thread, not this one at all, was started by kori
i never claimed to know anything about child "rearing" or any other simlilar matter, but i can have my opinion on something i dont have, i know that hummers suck, i dont have one though
its just funny that yall sound so high and mighty because yall have kids and i dont

"High and mighty"???

You might look at your own posts towards us in that light...

[Shelly]

Give me a fucking break.

[Shelly]

Sounds more like self-esteem issues to me.

[mookie2001]

nice redirection
straight out of the sean hannity playbook

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Keep them away from strippers or face the wrath of this forum! (and your wife). :lol

I think what Mookie and a few others are missing in this is that we all know kids are going to do what kids are going to do. They'll look at things they aren't supposed to look at and probably participate in things they shouldn't participate in at some time in their lives. We know because we've all been there ourselves once.

But as parents we are obligated to show our kids the correct path, not encourage poor choices.

As a parent I hope and pray that my son won't do half of the crazy things I did, and I intend to warn him against such things. That's my duty as a parent, and I think that's what makes the actions of these parents who chose to buy their son a stripper so offensive to those of us who have children of our own.

[travis2]

I think what Mookie and a few others are missing in this is that we all know kids are going to do what kids are going to do. They'll look at things they aren't supposed to look at and probably participate in things they shouldn't participate in at some time in their lives. We know because we've all been there ourselves once.

But as parents we are obligated to show our kids the correct path, not encourage poor choices.

As a parent I hope and pray that my son won't do half of the crazy things I did, and I intend to warn him against such things. That's my duty as a parent, and I think that's what makes the actions of these parents who chose to buy their son a stripper so offensive to those of us who have children of our own.

Gee, Chopper, don't you know common sense and good morals are considered "high and mighty" and making something out of nothing?

[thispego]

I dont know why I always miss these conversations but if I had been here I would have had mookies back.

The thing is, that everyone here with kids arguing that the parents are wrong in this situation are speaking strictly from a parents point of view. Which mookie and I dont possess. You all dont "know better" just because you have kids. We are all, i assume, endowed with the capability to distinguish between right and wrong. But who's to say whats wrong to someone else is'nt right for some other family???

My main point I was trying to make at the beginning of this thread is that the photo lab clerk should hav minded his/her own business. I'm 22 years old and I look like I'm 16...... If I were to submit pcitures of myself with a stripper would I be hassled by the prying eyes of law enforcement agencies trying to distinguish my "real age" so they can possibly prosecute Me, my parents, the stripper, and the strippers manager to the full extent of the law???

Talk about a fucking waste of time and tax payers dollars.

Now if this photo had been of an ubviously underaged subject with a stripper I could understand. If it was a questionable minor is an EXPLICTLY sexual act then I could understand....... But a stripper???? it was'nt even a prostitute or anything......

Travis...... you need to jump down the furthest off your high horse because you apparently find yourself omniscient in the matter.... You gotta call people out and tell them to withdraw from the gene pool because their views differ from yours????
We certainly dont need that sort of closed-mindedness or bigotry in this world so why dont you withdraw YOUR genes from the pool???

See, not very nice is it?

[Flea]

Mookie you cannot have it both ways. You want to give your insight and input on something and can't stand it when people point out the obvious.......that you know nothing on the topic being discussed(ie this subject and the tim duncan one). That doesn't mean you can't give your opinion, go ahead and do it, just don't get upset when people don't agree and be adult enough to admit that maybe.....just maybe.....you don't know as much as you think you do.

You should actually be very thankful. Once you decide to have kids you will already be one step ahead with all this great advice. :)

[travis2]

I dont know why I always miss these conversations but if I had been here I would have had mookies back.

The thing is, that everyone here with kids arguing that the parents are wrong in this situation are speaking strictly from a parents point of view. Which mookie and I dont possess. You all dont "know better" just because you have kids. We are all, i assume, endowed with the capability to distinguish between right and wrong. But who's to say whats wrong to someone else is'nt right for some other family???

My main point I was trying to make at the beginning of this thread is that the photo lab clerk should hav minded his/her own business. I'm 22 years old and I look like I'm 16...... If I were to submit pcitures of myself with a stripper would I be hassled by the prying eyes of law enforcement agencies trying to distinguish my "real age" so they can possibly prosecute Me, my parents, the stripper, and the strippers manager to the full extent of the law???

Talk about a fucking waste of time and tax payers dollars.

Now if this photo had been of an ubviously underaged subject with a stripper I could understand. If it was a questionable minor is an EXPLICTLY sexual act then I could understand....... But a stripper???? it was'nt even a prostitute or anything......

Travis...... you need to jump down the furthest off your high horse because you apparently find yourself omniscient in the matter.... You gotta call people out and tell them to withdraw from the gene pool because their views differ from yours????
We certainly dont need that sort of closed-mindedness or bigotry in this world so why dont you withdraw YOUR genes from the pool???

See, not very nice is it?

Hypocrite, heal thyself. Amazing how anyone who disagrees with you is suddenly bigoted or closed-minded. :rolleyes

I didn't call anyone out because their views "differed from mine". I called people out because they were advocating illegal and immoral acts with children under the guise of "mind your own business". And that is utter bullshit.

Deal with it. The law says those photos were to be reported. And the reasons for that law are many and well-supported. That they don't meet your oh-so-wise standard of what is necessary and what is not doesn't concern me in the slightest. That you would advocate a change in those laws does concern me.

And if you notice, I am not alone here.

[Flea]

I think what Mookie and a few others are missing in this is that we all know kids are going to do what kids are going to do. They'll look at things they aren't supposed to look at and probably participate in things they shouldn't participate in at some time in their lives. We know because we've all been there ourselves once.

But as parents we are obligated to show our kids the correct path, not encourage poor choices.

As a parent I hope and pray that my son won't do half of the crazy things I did, and I intend to warn him against such things. That's my duty as a parent, and I think that's what makes the actions of these parents who chose to buy their son a stripper so offensive to those of us who have children of our own.


Exactly! Kids are going to do dumb shit. Its one thing for a bunch of teenage boys to try to get into a strip bar and another for the parents to hire one for them.

[mookie2001]

thanks pego

i just think the moms in this thead were personally offended
"hey i have kids!, i would never ever buy a stripper for them"

1. people dont give a shit about your kids
dont take it personally i dont give a shit about your car, husbands, house, whatever
2. go ask a pregant 7th grader what it takes to have kids

[Shelly]

Give me a fucking break, part deux.

And guess who's raising the 7th grader's child? Most likely that child's grandmother.

[travis2]

Give me a fucking break, part deux.

Much more succinct and to the point than mine. Bravo. :lol

[Flea]

I dont know why I always miss these conversations but if I had been here I would have had mookies back.

The thing is, that everyone here with kids arguing that the parents are wrong in this situation are speaking strictly from a parents point of view. Which mookie and I dont possess. You all dont "know better" just because you have kids. We are all, i assume, endowed with the capability to distinguish between right and wrong. But who's to say whats wrong to someone else is'nt right for some other family???

My main point I was trying to make at the beginning of this thread is that the photo lab clerk should hav minded his/her own business. I'm 22 years old and I look like I'm 16...... If I were to submit pcitures of myself with a stripper would I be hassled by the prying eyes of law enforcement agencies trying to distinguish my "real age" so they can possibly prosecute Me, my parents, the stripper, and the strippers manager to the full extent of the law???

Talk about a fucking waste of time and tax payers dollars.

Now if this photo had been of an ubviously underaged subject with a stripper I could understand. If it was a questionable minor is an EXPLICTLY sexual act then I could understand....... But a stripper???? it was'nt even a prostitute or anything......

Travis...... you need to jump down the furthest off your high horse because you apparently find yourself omniscient in the matter.... You gotta call people out and tell them to withdraw from the gene pool because their views differ from yours????
We certainly dont need that sort of closed-mindedness or bigotry in this world so why dont you withdraw YOUR genes from the pool???

See, not very nice is it?


First of all the photo place is obligated by LAW to report it. It has nothing to do with minding ones business.....do you think they should risk being fined or prosecuted in some way over this?

[SWC Bonfire]

This is a good example of a thread becoming too serious about comments that were made in jest.

I'm sure that mookie2001 would wait until the 18th birthday to hire his kid a stripper, just like any responsible parent would. :lol

[Flea]

thanks pego

i just think the moms in this thead were personally offended
"hey i have kids!, i would never ever buy a stripper for them"

1. people dont give a shit about your kids
dont take it personally i dont give a shit about your car, husbands, house, whatever
2. go ask a pregant 7th grader what it takes to have kids


Ask her what it takes to be a parent????

[mookie2001]

sorry girls (and travis)
get all huffy and puffy
you know its true


the point thispego and i made was
where the cutoff
if a kids 16 and looks 25 then he gets away with it
if a guys 25 and looks 16 he gets fucked over for not looking old enough?

[Shelly]

Much more succinct and to the point than mine. Bravo. :lol


:lol

And thus endeth my participation in this thread.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go encourage my oldest to hook up with the little girl down the street and my youngest to set the neighbor's cat on fire. I might even take pictures.

[mookie2001]

i would never buy my son a stripper
its a waste of money
maybe if i was linton johnson rich then i would

[Flea]

sorry girls (and travis)
get all huffy and puffy
you know its true


the point thispego and i made was
where the cutoff
if a kids 16 and looks 25 then he gets away with it
if a guys 25 and looks 16 he gets fucked over for not looking old enough?


I thought the argument was whether the parents should have done this or not?

It has nothing to do with the looks of the person. If the kid looked 30 then he/the parents might have gotten away with it because it would not have been reported. It still doesn't make it right.

[thispego]

Hypocrite, heal thyself. Amazing how anyone who disagrees with you is suddenly bigoted or closed-minded. :rolleyes
Difference is.... you call people out and bash them when they disagree with you... I call people out and bash them when said people are calling people out and bashing them for disagreeing with them.


I didn't call anyone out because their views "differed from mine". I called people out because they were advocating illegal and immoral acts with children under the guise of "mind your own business". And that is utter bullshit.
Immoral is a matter of opinion, And I woudlnt exactly call a 16 year old a child, more like a young adult, but that, too, is a matter of opinion... as is it being bullshit.



Deal with it. The law says those photos were to be reported. And the reasons for that law are many and well-supported. That they don't meet your oh-so-wise standard of what is necessary and what is not doesn't concern me in the slightest. That you would advocate a change in those laws does concern me.

And if you notice, I am not alone here.
Likewise.
And who said I was advocating a change in these laws??? has someone been posting under my name again? or are you assuming that because I would like for people to mind their own business that I also think laws protecting the children be more lax?
God i encounter this type of idiocy far more than I care to on this site.

[Flea]

:lol

And thus endeth my participation in this thread.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go encourage my oldest to hook up with the little girl down the street and my youngest to set the neighbor's cat on fire. I might even take pictures.


My oldest is almost 12. Should I put makeup on her and dress her in high heels?
You think your son might be interested?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

sorry girls (and travis)
get all huffy and puffy
you know its true


the point thispego and i made was
where the cutoff
if a kids 16 and looks 25 then he gets away with it
if a guys 25 and looks 16 he gets fucked over for not looking old enough?

Mookie, I looked 24 when I was 17. I had a fake ID and could get in whereever I wanted and do whatever I wanted to do.

However, my mom and dad didn't hook me up with the ID and would have busted my ass if they had known I had it.

That's the distinction you're missing. Who cares how old you look? This is about parents doing their duty as parents. Your arguments don't even make sense at this point.

DON'T DO DRUGS SON! That's the only advice I can give from reading your takes.

[mookie2001]

keeping the arguement on topic?
we spend 2 pages arguing that i didnt know shit because i didnt have kids

like i said compared to the crimes commited in this country, with parents, with kids, with "sexual activity"
this has got to be the lamest "crime" you can possible imagine
and you cant argue that

[SWC Bonfire]

God i encounter this type of idiocy far more than I care to on this site.

Type the following:

Sarcasm

[thispego]

First of all the photo place is obligated by LAW to report it. It has nothing to do with minding ones business.....do you think they should risk being fined or prosecuted in some way over this?
If the photo place had mentioned nothing abut it, this thread would have never existed and the world would go on spinning.... the stripper would still be stripping and the parents would be going to work right now....

[travis2]

And who said I was advocating a change in these laws??? has someone been posting under my name again? or are you assuming that because I would like for people to mind their own business that I also think laws protecting the children be more lax?
God i encounter this type of idiocy far more than I care to on this site.

For the photo shop worker to "mind his/her own business" requires a change in the law. This has already been made clear.

The idiot charge is back in your court.

[Flea]

keeping the arguement on topic?
we spend 2 pages arguing that i didnt know shit because i didnt have kids

like i said compared to the crimes commited in this country, with parents, with kids, with "sexual activity"
this has got to be the lamest "crime" you can possible imagine
and you cant argue that


And you are correct. Some of the crimes committed against the kids here in our area is heartbreaking and vicious. No one is arguing against that point.

That still doesn't justify what the parents did......oh, my crime is small in comparison to others....maybe they won't notice.