3D printers and Guns

[TSA]

Been following this company pretty closely as they've been leading the front on 3D printing. Looks like they are now selling products.

https://defdist.myshopify.com/

How will the government stop citizens from buying 3D printers and making their own firearms/magazines/parts? The designs are now solid and available for free.

[pgardn]

So people will but 3d printers because guns are not available...?

Go to any gun show here and there will be people outside practically giving them away.

[TSA]

Nothing to do with availability and everything to do with being unregulated and unregistered.

[boutons_deux]

anybody who manufacturers and/or sells guns should be licensed, heavily fined and mandated imprisonment for violations.

[pgardn]

Nothing to do with availability and everything to do with being unregulated and unregistered.

I think the problem is larger with guns already manufactured.

just saying...

[Latarian Milton]

anybody who manufacturers and/or sells guns should be licensed, heavily fined and mandated imprisonment for violations.
so this country should also ban facebook and allow baby killing as well?

[ElNono]

FWIW, Staples is about to start selling 3D printers en masse...

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/03/3d-systems-staples/

[Nbadan]

3D Printed Guns

People have figured out how to print a semi-automatic rifle from the comfort of their own home. Now they’re putting all the information online so that others will join them.

This is a story about the rapid evolution of a technology that has forced the American legal system to play catch up. Cody Wilson, a 25 year old University of Texas Law student, is an advocate for the open source production of firearms using 3D printing technology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=DconsfGsXyA

[baseline bum]

Pretty cool if we can have open-source rifles like we have open-source software. Next step is open-source pussy.

[TDMVPDPOY]

would a 3d printer act the same way as a welder machine that makes guns?....

[DarrinS]

would a 3d printer act the same way as a welder machine that makes guns?....


No, these things use extruded ABS plastic.


Since I know a bit about 3d printing, I am highly skeptical of these "printed" guns. If you really had an entire gun made from a 3d printer, fire it at your own risk.

[TSA]

No, these things use extruded ABS plastic.


Since I know a bit about 3d printing, I am highly skeptical of these "printed" guns. If you really had an entire gun made from a 3d printer, fire it at your own risk.check out some of the YouTube videos, you'll be surprised. Full mag dumps through these things without a hitch.

[DarrinS]

check out some of the YouTube videos, you'll be surprised. Full mag dumps through these things without a hitch.


What parts of the gun were printed?

[TDMVPDPOY]

imagine if they have a machine big enough to make houses, just print them out and deliver

[DarrinS]

imagine if they have a machine big enough to make houses, just print them out and deliver

Just not the fireplace.

[DarrinS]

I wonder if the company mentioned in the OP will print a car bumper, and then claim they can print cars?

[DarrinS]

Lol @ big, bad scary headline on huffpo

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

[DarrinS]

Hmm. This pistol model has a very short, smooth barrel (sans rifling).

Any gun experts here trust this thing?

http://defcad.org/liberator/

[TSA]

What parts of the gun were printed?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22421185

appears to be everything minus the firing pin.

[DarrinS]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22421185

appears to be everything minus the firing pin.



I don't see how the barrel made with ABS could stand up to a lot of shooting. I guess this is why the barrel is so short. Doesn't seem very safe to me.

[TSA]

I don't see how the barrel made with ABS could stand up to a lot of shooting. I guess this is why the barrel is so short. Doesn't seem very safe to me.

The gun itself just seems like a big fuck you to the government. What I am more interested in are the magazines.

[ElNono]

FWIW, it's illegal to build an entire gun without some amount of metal that would make it detectable by metal detectors, per the Undetectable Firearms Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undetectable_Firearms_Act_of_1988).

[Wild Cobra]

FWIW, it's illegal to build an entire gun without some amount of metal that would make it detectable by metal detectors, per the Undetectable Firearms Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undetectable_Firearms_Act_of_1988).
Since when to criminals care about following the law?

[pgardn]

Since when to criminals care about following the law?
They would not be criminals in the context of this law unless they broke it.

Next.

[mouse]

Soon the Government will send you a 3D warrant for you to print out your own 3d handcuffs and arrest yourself.

[Winehole23]

toothpaste is already out of the tube, right?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22478310

[TSA]

toothpaste is already out of the tube, right?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22478310:lol sure fire way to increase downloads......tell people they can't download it.

[ElNono]

Since when to criminals care about following the law?

I'm actually pointing it out to law-abiding citizens that might want to put one of these guns together.

[boutons_deux]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57583919-76/the-pirate-bay-now-hosts-banned-3d-printed-gun-files/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title

[boutons_deux]

Print, Aim and Shoot: What Does a Plastic Handgun Mean for the Future of 3-D Printing?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=3d-printing-manufacturing-plastic-gun&WT.mc_id=SA_DD_20130510

[TSA]

I'm actually pointing it out to law-abiding citizens that might want to put one of these guns together.Looks like there is steel placed in the handle to make it legal.

[ElNono]

Looks like there is steel placed in the handle to make it legal.

right... which is what you need to do to make it legal.

[boutons_deux]

I'm actually pointing it out to law-abiding citizens that might want to put one of these guns together.

... with no gun b/g checks and with no gun safety training, naturally.

yes, serious, mature, healthy "law abiding" citizens who put safety of themselves and all others first. :lol

Since a sufficient 3D printer is more expensive than a "home defense" Saturday night special, :lol, "law abiding" citizens are to be trusted and never regulated.

Self-regulating "Just Trust Us" always works :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Can someone who knows guns explain to me if it's even possible to make a plastic gun? I'm just curious tbh. The whole thing seems scary given where people could take a plastic gun but also pretty cool that you can literally print a gun.

It's gonna be funny when companies like Bushmaster and S&W start pouring money into the lobby to ban these types of guns.

[Nbadan]

Can someone who knows guns explain to me if it's even possible to make a plastic gun? I'm just curious tbh. The whole thing seems scary given where people could take a plastic gun but also pretty cool that you can literally print a gun.

It's gonna be funny when companies like Bushmaster and S&W start pouring money into the lobby to ban these types of guns.

Yes, its possible....in fact one guy is already doing it...and what's funnier is that one day, the NRA, who supports gun manufacturers, not the freedom to carry guns, may have to come out against these guns to support their puppet-masters...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Yes, its possible....in fact one guy is already doing it...and what's funnier is that one day, the NRA, who supports gun manufacturers, not the freedom to carry guns, may have to come out against these guns to support their puppet-masters...
:lol yeah that's what the bottom of my post was implying

I fucked up in my original post, is it possible for the gun to be 100% plastic?

[ElNono]

I fucked up in my original post, is it possible for the gun to be 100% plastic?

Yes, but it's not legal. See my previous posts about the law.

[Clipper Nation]

This 3D printing shit sounds dope, would be interested to see what else people can make with it, tbh.....

[TSA]

:lol yeah that's what the bottom of my post was implying

I fucked up in my original post, is it possible for the gun to be 100% plastic?no. You'd need a firing pin.

[Nbadan]

This 3D printing shit sounds dope, would be interested to see what else people can make with it, tbh.....

....can you imagine an organic version that can print perfect replacement organs or limbs?

[Nbadan]

THE DOWNLOADABLE GUN...

http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/files/2013/05/3d-gun-a.png
http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/image.php?image=

[Nbadan]

A few days after the blueprints for the world’s first printable gun were published online, Defense Distributed has been asked by the State Department to pull them down, citing possible arms trafficking violations. The blueprints, however, are still available on The Pirate Bay and many other file-sharing sites, which adds a 3D chapter to the IP enforcement debate.The Pirate Bay says it welcomes the blueprints and has no intention of taking the files down.

3d-goneIn late 2012 the 3D blueprint website Thingiverse decided to ban 3D gun designs, citing their terms of service which clearly prohibit files used to make weapons.

Enter DEFCAD, a site dedicated to hosting designs that have been banned at Thingiverse. Namely, the entirely printable 3D gun design which clocked up more than 100,000 downloads within its first two days of release.

This did not sit well with the Department of State Office of Defense Trade Controls who kindly requested that DEFCAD remove the availability of the 3D printable gun documents, enthusiastically named “The Liberator,” citing a possible violation of International Traffic in Arms Regulations.

http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-takes-over-distribution-of-censored-3d-printable-gun-130510/

[Nbadan]

Meet The 'Liberator': Test-Firing The World's First Fully 3D-Printed Gun...

http://b-i.forbesimg.com/andygreenberg/files/2013/05/liberator5.jpg


. John has just pulled a twenty-foot length of yellow string tied to a trigger, which has successfully fired the world’s first entirely 3D-printed gun for the very first time ... He hurries over to examine the firearm bolted to an aluminum frame ... After the handgun round, Wilson switched out the Liberator’s barrel for a higher-charge 5.7×28 rifle cartridge. He and John retreated to a safe distance, and John pulled his yellow string again. This time the gun exploded, sending shards of white ABS plastic flying into the weeds and bringing the Liberator’s first field trial to an abrupt end ...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/05/05/meet-the-liberator-test-firing-the-worlds-first-fully-3d-printed-gun/

The creator of the design, IIRC, has a Type 7 Federal Firearms License to Manufacture

[mouse]

I fucked up in my original post,

New sig?

[Winehole23]

http://gizmodo.com/the-world-just-got-its-first-entirely-3d-printed-metal-1460338036

[boutons_deux]

http://gizmodo.com/the-world-just-got-its-first-entirely-3d-printed-metal-1460338036

I'd love to hear the gun-industry/NRA take on this new printable METAL gun.

[TDMVPDPOY]

dunno why authorities are mad, the clowns that should be mad are the chinese who be undercut by the avg joe behind a computer

[boutons_deux]

dunno why authorities are mad, the clowns that should be mad are the chinese who be undercut by the avg joe behind a computer

what %age of USA guns are made in China?

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/imports_3-tfb.jpg

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/12/22/gun-imports-in-2010/

With 300M+ guns flooding USA now, I don't really see why a printed metal guns would help criminals who already can get as many guns and gun types as they want.

[Clipper Nation]

http://gizmodo.com/the-world-just-got-its-first-entirely-3d-printed-metal-1460338036
Pretty awesome stuff there..... unsurprisingly, boutons' vagina is bleeding all over the place because of it :lol

[Alex Jones]

Can someone who knows guns explain to me if it's even possible to make a plastic gun? .

DconsfGsXyA

[Winehole23]

the GOP-controlled House extends gun ban: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/04/us/politics/house-votes-to-extend-gun-law-without-new-provisions.html?_r=0

[Winehole23]

they're taking away our guns, TSA

[Winehole23]

The girl told authorities she created an account on SugarDaddyMeet.com and began talking to a man who used the screen name “Sanjuro,” the affidavit said. The two exchanged cellphone numbers and began texting and exchanging explicit photos, the affidavit said.


“Sanjuro” eventually identified himself to the girl as “Cody Wilson” and told her he was a “big deal,” according to the affidavit. Police compared Wilson’s driver’s license photo with the profile image for “Sanjuro” and found a match.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/09/19/3d-printed-gun-designer-cody-wilson-charged-sexual-assault/

[koriwhat]

maybe i should print one... nah i only have pla to work with at the moment anyhow.

[Spurminator]

Oh look, another actual example of sexual assault of a minor that the Pizzagate crew doesn't care about.

[Spurminator]

Maybe pizzagate gun nuts are suspicious of pedophilia everywhere they look because it doesn't seem like that outlandish a thing to them. Easy to imagine themselves doing it, perhaps. Sick.

[Spurminator]

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[Winehole23]

life on the crispy libertarian edge: paying teenagers for sex is just what Billy Badasses like Cody Wilson do