Rank these players at their peaks..

[HarlemHeat37]

Kevin Durant
Dwyane Wade
Kobe Bryant
Tracy McGrady

[Mugen]

KD hasn't peaked yet and he'll probably be at the top of that list when he does.

I'd go Kirby, Wade, then T-Mac tbh.

[Killakobe81]

KD hasn't peaked yet and he'll probably be at the top of that list when he does.

I'd go Kirby, Wade, then T-Mac tbh.

Agree great post ...Durant can even catch LeBron ...I doubt it, but still on the table

[HarlemHeat37]

Durant's currently near his peak, the only possible improvement remaining is mental, accepting the role of alpha male, tbh..

He's never going to develop a consistent post game due to his size, tbh..

I'd still consider him at #1 on the list, tbh..

He's by far the most efficient on the list, he's the best shooter on the list..his defense has improved, he's just as good defensively as Kobe(not when he's focused, but he has rarely ever been) and better than McGrady(worse than Wade)..

His passing isn't as good as the other 3, although he's improving..

He's the most clutch shooter of the 4, too..

He didn't win a ring last year, but he had an elite playoffs, only outplayed by one of the best players of all-time, tbh..

[irishock]

Kobe
TMac
Durant
Wade

[jag]

:lol subtle


Durant
McGrady
Kobe
Wade

[TDMVPDPOY]

RS tmac>all

playoff tmac is last

[ElNono]

Durant
Iverson
T-Mac
Wade
Kirby

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Durant
Wade
T-Mac
Kobe

tbh

[Koolaid_Man]

Kevin Durant
Dwyane Wade
Kobe Bryant
Tracy McGrady


# Kobe 5

# Wade, Durant, Mcgrady 3

# Wade, Durant, Mcgrady, + Lebron 4

#boiled down to

#:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

# Kobe 5

# Wade, Durant, Mcgrady 3

# Wade, Durant, Mcgrady, + Lebron 4

#boiled down to

#:lol

Your new shtick reminds me of Magic's son, tbh:lol..

[spurraider21]

Just to be clear, when was Kirby's peak? During his first round exits? His shaq piggyback years? Or the Gasol odom fisher PJ years?

[FkLA]

Without the MDE and MVPau, Kobe had less playoff success than AI and VC and just as much as Tmac tbh. True story.

Durant

AI, Carter
Kobe, Tmac

[Monster1776]

Durant's currently near his peak, the only possible improvement remaining is mental, accepting the role of alpha male, tbh..

He's never going to develop a consistent post game due to his size, tbh..

I'd still consider him at #1 on the list, tbh..

He's by far the most efficient on the list, he's the best shooter on the list..his defense has improved, he's just as good defensively as Kobe(not when he's focused, but he has rarely ever been) and better than McGrady(worse than Wade)..

His passing isn't as good as the other 3, although he's improving..

He's the most clutch shooter of the 4, too..

He didn't win a ring last year, but he had an elite playoffs, only outplayed by one of the best players of all-time, tbh..

Physicality and mental dominance is all he needs to catch LeBron, it's just really fucking hard to instill that into a player that's always had non contact type of play.

[da_suns_fan]

]KD hasn't peaked yet and he'll probably be at the top of that list when he does.[/B]

I'd go Kirby, Wade, then T-Mac tbh.

Probably.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Wade
Kobe
Durant
T-Mac

[BatManu20]

People forget how unstoppable T-Mac was in his prime. Dude was an unreal scorer. He carried some really shitty teams into the playoffs. But his lack of defense keeps him low on this list imo. I'd say:

Kobe
Durant
Wade
T-Mac

[LarryDavid]

Durant isn't in his prime yet.

Kobe
Wade
TMac

KD has the potential to top this list though. Easily.

[Monster1776]

Durant isn't in his prime yet.

Kobe
Wade
TMac

KD has the potential to top this list though. Easily.

A KD/LeBron comparison will be the only worthwhile debate.

[TheRealCB]

A KD/LeBron comparison will be the only worthwhile debate.

Not right now.

[Monster1776]

Not right now.
Of course not, but if it ever get's to that point it will be. When has there ever been two players that potentially have the same caliber of skill as MJ and played the same position in the same era?

The dilemma of making these comparisons is that you're comparing different players at different positions that faced different team related obstacles and played against different types of players under a different set of rules and call style. It's comparing apples to oranges and asking for preference of flavor.

if Durant ever gets to LeBron's level I think it will make the league immensly more interesting to watch and debate about.

[baseline bum]

1. Wade
2. Bryant
3. Durant
4. McGrady

[Monster1776]

1. Wade
2. Bryant
3. Durant
4. McGrady

You're fucking high with that Wade pick.

[oh crap]

Durant underrated per par.

[baseline bum]

You're fucking high with that Wade pick.

????? Wade's the only one on that list to ever go Olajuwon 95 on the playoffs. We're talking peaks here.

[Grit and Grind]

Just to be clear, when was Kirby's peak? During his first round exits? His shaq piggyback years? Or the Gasol odom fisher PJ years?

His peak was from 03-07

[spurraider21]

His peak was from 03-07

Pretty much on par with prime Tmac tbh... in that case i'd have to go
Durant
Wade
3a) Kobe
3b) Tmac

[Grit and Grind]

What was so great about Wade in his peak he could never stay healthy I would rather have the Rapists than Wade

[Phillip]

T-Mac at his very best? Unquestionably #1. Arguably the most naturally gifted/talented player ever.

[Monster1776]

????? Wade's the only one on that list to ever go Olajuwon 95 on the playoffs. We're talking peaks here.

Ehh... Valid point, I still just don't see the allure Wade's game has that make people go nuts over him.

[100%duncan]

Kobe
Wade
Durant
Tmac

only because durant didn't do shit yet.

[blkroadrunners]

Durant
Wade
Bryant
McGrady

[james evans]

what's with the facsination of kevin durant. dude is a 1 dimensional player. i've been watching ball for a long time and i don't ever recall wilkins or king in the 80s being called the best or 2nd best in the league just from scoring baskets. kevin durant is a shitty defender(one of the worst on his own team), can't pass out of the double team team worth shit(i'm not talking about coming down and kicking to the open man for 3), and for to be damn near 7 feet with arms as long as he has, there is not reason for him not to dominate the boards. he's a taller version of monta ellis or curry. the only thing is that he's playing with one of the best pgs in the league, the best shot blocker, and a lot of other guys that can fill in roles in the right places. put durant on the bobcats, they are still the bobcats. put lebron on the bobcats, they are top 3 in the east.

[Latarian Milton]

there wasn't much difference between the best t-mac and the best kobe back in their days imho. kobe just got better luck than t-mac, the interim between shaq and pau's era already proved that he would also be a 2nd round virgin had he played his entire career as the only superstar on his team imho

[irishock]

Pretty much on par with prime Tmac tbh... in that case i'd have to go
Durant
Wade
3a) Kobe
3b) Tmac

:lol Wade>Kobe is a shit take

[spurraider21]

:lol Wade>Kobe is a shit take

somebody said kobe's peak was from 03-07, which is what my take was in response to. what did kobe do between 03-07 thats supposed to make me think otherwise? 2nd banana with shaq and completely screwed them in the finals in 04. missed playoffs in 05. first round bounced twice by phoenix + episode where he quit on his team against phx. for that, wade > kobe in their respective peaks

[StrengthAndHonor]

Just to be clear, when was Kirby's peak? During his first round exits? His shaq piggyback years? Or the Gasol odom fisher PJ years?

I thought Kobe's best year was 08-09 season. He played a balanced game that year season long. Its also his best Finals series but from a pure basketball skill standpoint, 05-06 was it. He could not be stopped at all. I've seen a good number of his games those years and you know he was at least going for 40 on a good night, 30 pts when he's having a sub par game and 50 or more when he's pissed off. Obviously it didn't translate to a lot of wins but he was going to score at any defense thrown at him.

[mercos]

Kobe, T-Mac, Durant, Wade. Durant could move up the list, as he still has plenty of peak years left to do some amazing things. This Memphis series is going to be a great showcase for him, because he is going to have to really bring it to beat them.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Absolute peak, I'd pick Wade over Kobe then Tmac. Wade was too good during that year where he posted a 30 PER. Wade has thw slight edge because of efficiency but if we're talking about peak as in considering a few seasons Kobe takes the spot because he's the most consistent.

[Arcadian]

Just to be clear, when was Kirby's peak? During his first round exits? His shaq piggyback years? Or the Gasol odom fisher PJ years?

Yeah that's a good question.

:lol The trouble with Kobe is that he had no clear peak. Any way you look at it, his legacy is always marred with something. If you go with 2000-03, he wasn't even the best player on his team. If you go with 2005-07, his team was mediocre at best. I don't think you can go with 2009-10 because his statistical dominance was already declining then. So...maybe the right answer is that Kobe had a relatively poor "peak" and should be at the bottom of this list.

[Latarian Milton]

Absolute peak, I'd pick Wade over Kobe then Tmac. Wade was too good during that year where he posted a 30 PER. Wade has thw slight edge because of efficiency but if we're talking about peak as in considering a few seasons Kobe takes the spot because he's the most consistent.
speaking of absolute peak i'd choose t-mac of the 35 seconds where he shitted all over the spurs scoring 13pts and winning the game single-handedly

[lefty]

T-Mac hasn't peaked yet TBH

[james evans]

what's with the facsination of kevin durant. dude is a 1 dimensional player. i've been watching ball for a long time and i don't ever recall wilkins or king in the 80s being called the best or 2nd best in the league just from scoring baskets. kevin durant is a shitty defender(one of the worst on his own team), can't pass out of the double team team worth shit(i'm not talking about coming down and kicking to the open man for 3), and for to be damn near 7 feet with arms as long as he has, there is not reason for him not to dominate the boards. he's a taller version of monta ellis or curry. the only thing is that he's playing with one of the best pgs in the league, the best shot blocker, and a lot of other guys that can fill in roles in the right places. put durant on the bobcats, they are still the bobcats. put lebron on the bobcats, they are top 3 in the east.
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[King Nupe]

5 rings is the only answer that I need to give.

[namlook]

Kobe
Wade
Durant
TMac

Durant can move up when he wins rings. If he wins no rings I'd have a hard time moving him past Wade. TMac is easily at the bottom of this list and doesn't belong.

[AaronY]

Durants not a bad defender..

[UNCLE-DREW]

We're not talking about most naturally skilled (T-mac easily) or career (Kobe also easily) but peaks. Since Durant isn't even there yet. So if people rate him already higher then the other 3 their peak, they should sign in to a mental hospital.

Wade
Kobe
T-mac


Durant

[Phillip]

T-Macs talent/peak level is getting massively underrated here.

[Monster1776]

Durants not a bad defender..

Nor is Kobe.

[Fabbs]

Wade
Durant
tie McGrady
tie Bryant

Durant has time to surpass Wade.

[james evans]

Durants not a bad defender..
sheeeeit. had last year finals went to 7 games, they would have had him guarding coach spolstra being that he was having trouble with everyone they put him on.

oh yeah, does durant look like an all time great now? when the refs don't bail him out and let players get physical with him, he looks average. they've spoiled this guy so much that he expect foul calls anytime a player gets within 2 feet of him and he loses the ball or misses.

[DPG21920]

Physicality and mental dominance is all he needs to catch LeBron, it's just really fucking hard to instill that into a player that's always had non contact type of play.

No. Massive gulf between the two