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FkLA
05-08-2013, 11:16 PM
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Is there anyone on GS he can guard? Doesnt matter if its Jack, Thompson, or Barnes theyre all abusing him. God knows how bad Curry would rape him if he defended him more than just small stretches. Dude is little more than a traffic cone out there. Killed any hope for a comeback.

phxspurfan
05-08-2013, 11:18 PM
+1 With Parker playing like this, we may not win another game.

spurraider21
05-08-2013, 11:19 PM
he's usually solid against penetrating guards, but when guys can just shoot over him like Curry and Jack are doing, its tough to do anything. and its unfair to have him guard Thompson or Barnes considering the height disparity. that said, id like to make Barnes beat us

ElNono
05-08-2013, 11:20 PM
need to figure something out, tbh... it doesn't help Jackson keeps running the offense through whoever he's guarding... can't hide him when that happens.

dbreiden83080
05-08-2013, 11:20 PM
No.. Watch some of those possessions on Jack. Tony did all he could do. When you take away his space, play physical, move your feet and contest the shot. That is good D and better O if it goes in..

hater
05-08-2013, 11:20 PM
LOL his defense was per his career. parker is not out there for his defense.

I rather lose a game with Jarett Jack and Green/Barnes bullying Parker than with Thompson + Curry shooting out of this world

Our 2nd half D was very good. Hopefully they an build on this.

J_Paco
05-08-2013, 11:21 PM
How about the inept defense of Ginobili and Green leaving Thompson open constantly in the first half. Spurs need to put an entire game together and play team defense. It isn't on just one player, they need to all play well on both sides of the ball.

FkLA
05-08-2013, 11:24 PM
No.. Watch some of those possessions on Jack. Tony did all he could do. When you take away his space, play physical, move your feet and contest the shot. That is good D and better O if it goes in..

You cant be serious. The team defense was very solid the 2nd half, the Warriors stopped any kind of comeback because Jackson decided to go right at Parker for about 5 straight possessions. The times they didnt score the defense collapsed after being forced to help him out.

Its all made worse by the fact hes not taking advantage of having the bigger, slower Thompson defending him on the other end. Crumbling into the ball in the playoffs per par.

superjames1992
05-08-2013, 11:26 PM
You cant be serious.

Its all made worse by the fact hes not taking advantage of having the bigger, slower Thompson defending him on the other end. Crumbling into the ball in the playoffs per par.
Thompson's build is almost identical to Sefolosha's, tbh.

superjames1992
05-08-2013, 11:27 PM
Only 3 assists for Tony, too, though not that all of that is necessarily his fault due to missed open looks. Manu had 4 assists. The team only combined for 14 assists, which is awful.

FkLA
05-08-2013, 11:28 PM
Thompson's build is almost identical to Sefolosha's, tbh.

Thompson isnt anywhere near the defender Sefolosha is.

superjames1992
05-08-2013, 11:30 PM
Thompson isnt anywhere near the defender Sefolosha is.
I know, but in the past Parker has seemed unable to handle length well.

davidbowie
05-08-2013, 11:31 PM
could bruce stop klay or steph? what do you guys think?

lefty
05-08-2013, 11:32 PM
Been calling this for years, seems as though I'm the only one that has noticed until now.
not just you

But in regular season quick grades, TP's defense is "great" :lol

TheGoldStandard
05-08-2013, 11:32 PM
Parker is not the problem, it's our defense, leaving shooters open. Fuck the interior let them go off don't let Klay and Curry go off shooting without a hand in there face.

mercos
05-08-2013, 11:38 PM
Parker's defense is fine. Curry is just really good. Thompson and Barnes are much taller. Sometimes you just gotta give proprs to the other team. Best bet at this point is to hide Parker on Barnes. Let the Warriors go to him on every position. I'd rather lose with him scoring 50 than the other guys.

Kidd K
05-08-2013, 11:45 PM
What? Tony guarded Jack fine. Sometimes guys just hit tough shots that are defended well. He can't guard Thompson because he's so much taller than Tony. It's like how Dirk and Durant just shoot over everyone. Tony literally couldn't block that guy if he was in perfect position to do so and he jacked up a shot anyway.

He is 6'7" folks, Tony is 6'2" with an afro. Of course he can't guard him. He shouldn't be on him in the first place. And Barnes, he's even taller at 6'8".

Why would any of you expect Tony should be able to guard guys half a foot taller than he is? Green, Ginobili, and Leonard are supposed to guard those guys.

ElNono
05-08-2013, 11:47 PM
What? Tony guarded Jack fine. Sometimes guys just hit tough shots that are defended well. He can't guard Thompson because he's so much taller than Tony. It's like how Dirk and Durant just shoot over everyone. Tony literally couldn't block that guy if he was in perfect position to do so and he jacked up a shot anyway.

He is 6'7" folks, Tony is 6'2" with an afro. Of course he can't guard him. He shouldn't be on him in the first place. And Barnes, he's even taller at 6'8".

Why would any of you expect Tony should be able to guard guys half a foot taller than he is? Green, Ginobili, and Leonard are supposed to guard those guys.

Because he has to guard somebody not named Bogut. And whenever Pop tries to hide him on Barnes, Jackson posts Barnes. Whenever Pop tells him to guard Curry, Jackson calls a Curry play. Whenever Pop hides him on Jack, Jackson calls Jack number. They're targeting him for the fact of what you described above: he can't guard any of those guys, and there's no one else to hide him on. It's a mismatch and Jackson is going non-stop at it.

FkLA
05-08-2013, 11:50 PM
What? Tony guarded Jack fine. Sometimes guys just hit tough shots that are defended well. He can't guard Thompson because he's so much taller than Tony. It's like how Dirk and Durant just shoot over everyone. Tony literally couldn't block that guy if he was in perfect position to do so and he jacked up a shot anyway.

He is 6'7" folks, Tony is 6'2" with an afro. Of course he can't guard him. He shouldn't be on him in the first place. And Barnes, he's even taller at 6'8".

Why would any of you expect Tony should be able to guard guys half a foot taller than he is? Green, Ginobili, and Leonard are supposed to guard those guys.

If by fine you mean he got abused by him then yeah I guess he guarded Jack fine. Uh do you have any idea why Parker isnt on guarding someone his own size? Probably because Curry would go for 50 the way hes defending this series. Why doesnt Parker take advantage of his speed when the taller, slower Thompson is guarding him on the other end?

HarlemHeat37
05-08-2013, 11:52 PM
Because he has to guard somebody not named Bogut. And whenever Pop tries to hide him on Barnes, Jackson posts Barnes. Whenever Pop tells him to guard Curry, Jackson calls a Curry play. Whenever Pop hides him on Jack, Jackson calls Jack number. They're targeting him for the fact of what you described above: he can't guard any of those guys, and there's no one else to hide him on. It's a mismatch and Jackson is going non-stop at it.

And that's fine..

Let Harrison Barnes shoot 30 times, stop double-teaming him, he'll get you 15-20 on bad efficiency, and he won't get his teammates involved..that's cool, tbh..

FkLA
05-08-2013, 11:57 PM
And that's fine..

Let Harrison Barnes shoot 30 times, stop double-teaming him, he'll get you 15-20 on bad efficiency, and he won't get his teammates involved..that's cool, tbh..

Winning a game down the stretch by going right at Parker is fine? The Spurs were scoring in the 4th, and the Warriors answered every single time by simply dumping the ball into the guy Parker was on. Thats how they stopped any sort of comeback.

siraulo23
05-08-2013, 11:58 PM
IMO parker should guard curry, he didnt play him well in game 1 but the help from duncan wasnt there and curry shoot lights out

parker guarding thompson/barnes is a nightmare, you cant count on those guys just shooting over him all series

If he defends curry, you just gotta trust tp's on ball d and aggressive help defense and hope curry doesnt score 50 points

ElNono
05-08-2013, 11:59 PM
And that's fine..

Let Harrison Barnes shoot 30 times, stop double-teaming him, he'll get you 15-20 on bad efficiency, and he won't get his teammates involved..that's cool, tbh..

I have no problem with that, but the Spurs are wired to help... what's more, we're getting outrebounded (2 games in a row now, IIRC).

HarlemHeat37
05-09-2013, 12:04 AM
Winning a game down the stretch by going right at Parker is fine? The Spurs were scoring in the 4th, and the Warriors answered every single time by simply dumping the ball into the guy Parker was on. Thats how they stopped any sort of comeback.

Jarrett Jack is a good player and he dominated Parker down the stretch tonight..I still wouldn't double him, which is my point..guys like Jack and Barnes are black holes that take inefficient shots..if they want to shoot 20-30 times, that's fine..

Parker obviously needs to play much better on both ends of the floor..

hater
05-09-2013, 12:06 AM
Thompson defending him on the other end. Crumbling into the ball in the playoffs per par.

:lmao Thompson is probably the best defender for the warriors this series

Thompson is eating all our guards alive. It's not even funny. Too bad Stephen Jackson was waived

Cane
05-09-2013, 12:07 AM
But...but...+/-...and RAPM numbers.... ;)

siraulo23
05-09-2013, 12:08 AM
^ barnes can shoot over parker and make em at a high clip

parker on jack i dont mind, you live with those contested mid range js by jack, nobody misses mid range js against the spurs tho it seems :lol

HarlemHeat37
05-09-2013, 12:08 AM
:lmao Thompson is probably the best defender for the warriors this series

Thompson is eating all our guards alive. It's not even funny. Too bad Stephen Jackson was waived

Thompson has shot horribly when he's had to create his own shot, tbh..

Most of his points have been on jump shots off the pass and many have been wide open..that's the team defense, just as much as any individual defender..

siraulo23
05-09-2013, 12:10 AM
:lmao Thompson is probably the best defender for the warriors this series

Thompson is eating all our guards alive. It's not even funny. Too bad Stephen Jackson was waived

true, he's slowing down parker significantly and making him work too hard on offense, and when tp has to guard barnes/thompson, he doesnt have anything left on offense

Mugen
05-09-2013, 12:15 AM
Parker doesn't need help.

Thompson/Barnes post ups >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Curry breaking down the defense.

Why Pop hasn't realized this through 2 games is mind boggling tbh.

Absolutely no reason to send help, let alone send it on the catch.

UZER
05-09-2013, 12:29 AM
Yeah..texted my boy that they abusing parker every time. This is one thing i always criticize pop about. Sometimes you have throw the system out the window and exploit mismatches.

They abuse parker every time, yet pop let's them get away playing two little guys like Jack and curry together.

Punish them down low and force them to make a change.

jag
05-09-2013, 12:31 AM
Thompson is a very good defensive player. He was their defensive stopper this year. Only a retard who hasnt watched GS this season would keep referring to him as big and slow. He's 6'7", long and very quick. I think he's actually a better defender than Sefolosha because he's craftier and smarter than Sefolosha, while being just as athletic.

siraulo23
05-09-2013, 12:47 AM
Thompson is a very good defensive player. He was their defensive stopper this year. Only a retard who hasnt watched GS this season would keep referring to him as big and slow. He's 6'7", long and very quick. I think he's actually a better defender than Sefolosha because he's craftier and smarter than Sefolosha, while being just as athletic.

no.

but yes he's a very good defender and has made tp spent a lot of energy on offense

The key to GSW being this good is Bogut, he's legit down there

siraulo23
05-09-2013, 12:48 AM
Thompson/Barnes post ups >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Curry breaking down the defense.



This

FkLA
05-09-2013, 02:15 AM
Thompson is a very good defensive player. He was their defensive stopper this year. Only a retard who hasnt watched GS this season would keep referring to him as big and slow. He's 6'7", long and very quick. I think he's actually a better defender than Sefolosha because he's craftier and smarter than Sefolosha, while being just as athletic.

Im not saying hes Steve Nash or that hes a slow footed but hes not a defensive stopper by any means, and he definitely shouldnt be able to stay in front of Tony or neutralize him as easily as he has. :lmao at him being better than Sefolosha.


Parker doesn't need help.

Thompson/Barnes post ups >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Curry breaking down the defense.

Why Pop hasn't realized this through 2 games is mind boggling tbh.

Absolutely no reason to send help, let alone send it on the catch.

?

Pop didnt send help several times, and the Parker got burned each and every time. Thats why you have some people calling for Pop to help out Parker during the mismatches...there hasnt been much success with either strategy. Parker has to be able to guard someone, anyone or else the Spurs defense doesnt stand a chance.

Sean Cagney
05-09-2013, 02:18 AM
could bruce stop klay or steph? what do you guys think?

He rotated on to Kobe and Billups man, of course he would do alot better! Are you serious? He could make them frustrated beyond belief!

Kidd K
05-09-2013, 08:22 AM
If by fine you mean he got abused by him then yeah I guess he guarded Jack fine. Uh do you have any idea why Parker isnt on guarding someone his own size? Probably because Curry would go for 50 the way hes defending this series. Why doesnt Parker take advantage of his speed when the taller, slower Thompson is guarding him on the other end?

My man, there's a difference between a guy scoring 20 with wide open shots and layups, and a guy getting 20 with a guy in front of him with a hand in his face all night and having to work at it. Jack may have scored that way, but it will not continue every single night as if he was wide open.

Parker's defense isn't the best it's ever been, but it hasn't been terrible. They are going at him a lot to wear him down so his offense suffers. Have seen that tactic many times before throughout other series involving star players. The real problem is the broken rotations and ill-advised double teams on jumpshooters who rarely drive without a head of steam first (or lack of doubling when he's getting posted), and the lack of interior presence to help Duncan on both ends. Not to mention the terrible offensive consistency by everyone on the team not named Tim Duncan.

ThaBigFundamental21
05-09-2013, 08:29 AM
Interesting enough, usually everyone and their mom on Spurstalk brags about how Parker is a "good underrated defender."

kaji157
05-09-2013, 08:32 AM
Joseph has to be paired up with Jack, he did small job but better than parker on him.

EVAY
05-09-2013, 08:51 AM
Because he has to guard somebody not named Bogut. And whenever Pop tries to hide him on Barnes, Jackson posts Barnes. Whenever Pop tells him to guard Curry, Jackson calls a Curry play. Whenever Pop hides him on Jack, Jackson calls Jack number. They're targeting him for the fact of what you described above: he can't guard any of those guys, and there's no one else to hide him on. It's a mismatch and Jackson is going non-stop at it.

With all due respect, I don't think that Jackson is calling plays on Tony's guy because Tony can't guard any of them; he is calling plays on those guys to keep Tony playing so hard on defense he has nothing left on offense. Jackson knows that Tony is our best shooter; to the extent that he has to play against the ball handler every single time down court, he is going to be less effective and have less energy on the other end where he really hurts GS.

EVAY
05-09-2013, 08:56 AM
My man, there's a difference between a guy scoring 20 with wide open shots and layups, and a guy getting 20 with a guy in front of him with a hand in his face all night and having to work at it. Jack may have scored that way, but it will not continue every single night as if he was wide open.

Parker's defense isn't the best it's ever been, but it hasn't been terrible. They are going at him a lot to wear him down so his offense suffers. Have seen that tactic many times before throughout other series involving star players. The real problem is the broken rotations and ill-advised double teams on jumpshooters who rarely drive without a head of steam first (or lack of doubling when he's getting posted), and the lack of interior presence to help Duncan on both ends. Not to mention the terrible offensive consistency by everyone on the team not named Tim Duncan.

This.


This forum has a 'pile-on' mentality that is not exactly unbiased or overly objective in its assessment of games by players, Virtually everyone who trashes Parker on this forum has another Spur who is their favorite, whether Tim or Manu or Leonard. When a team loses, it normally is as a team, but on this forum, it is normally because of Parker.

Brazil
05-09-2013, 08:59 AM
GS is taking advantage of a significant mismatch, no doubt
Out of the fact that OP is clueless in most of his comments, this part of the serie is obviously key.

TP is going to be posted up every time by a 6'7 dude, he has not the physical tool to contest that play (and :lol at the idea that he is quick and can bother Thompson like Thompson is TMac slow). Let Parker Defend Curry / Jack this is where he has the most chance to be successful and he did an ok job tonight against Curry tonight.

So our stuff is to play big so play big and don't try to match small, they are better than us
Slow down the fucking pace, they are better than us at running
Stay with the shooters, don't double team scrubs
Let TP on Curry / Jack when both of the floor throw Leonard at Curry
Be physical for christ sake, if they want to lay up the shit out of us they have to pay the price
No more Neal and Bonner
Limit Manu's minute, I rather have 15/20 mn of 100% Manu than 30 mn of 70% on both side of the floor
Make Curry work on D, he needs to D parker as much as possible try to make GS switch to get there. Curry on Green is certain death for us cauz he doesn't to work his ass off on a spot up shooter

Obviously TP needs to play better in that serie for Spurs to have a chance, Spurs need his fourth quarter aggression the whole game.

Budkin
05-09-2013, 09:01 AM
Problem is not Tony, it's our team defense that is leaving the two best shooters in the league WIDE OPEN over and over and over.

Brazil
05-09-2013, 09:31 AM
I was looking at DefRtg of the team, against GS TP allowed 104 points per 100 possessions, Manu is at 102 and Neal at 100 (:lol). Leonard is at 107, Green at 111 same as Duncan, Bonner at 133 (at least no surprise there). Our D sucks.

jermaine
05-09-2013, 10:12 AM
Parker's defense is fine. Curry is just really good. Thompson and Barnes are much taller. Sometimes you just gotta give proprs to the other team. Best bet at this point is to hide Parker on Barnes. Let the Warriors go to him on every position. I'd rather lose with him scoring 50 than the other guys.
I'm with you. Parker is playing defense. He has never been known to be some lock down defender. But all of a sudden you folks want him to be. I dont understand some of you. Be upset at Ginobili if anybody. He cant do to much of shit. At least Tony is tryna be aggressive an getting some kinda buckets.

benstanfield
05-09-2013, 10:16 AM
why why WHY are we talking about defense? Yes it was bad, sure, but thhis team just has too many weapons to hold under 100+ ppg, PERIOD. Best thing to do is try to make Barnes/Jack beat us, but Curry and Thomson WILL ALWAYS get theirs.

The actual problem is scoring, as in, how the fuck do we miss so many layups and open threes???

FkLA
05-09-2013, 04:13 PM
Interesting enough, usually everyone and their mom on Spurstalk brags about how Parker is a "good underrated defender."

Product of timvps grades imo. Underrated member of the CoP.


Problem is not Tony, it's our team defense that is leaving the two best shooters in the league WIDE OPEN over and over and over.

The defense has collectively been bad for the most part but look at the 2nd half of Game 2. The Spurs actually played pretty good D and they were scoring on the other end prompting a semi comeback. Once it got down to single digits Jackson simply went right at Parker, whether he was guarding Jack or Barnes of Klay. Parkers defense was the weak link in an otherwise solid defensive second half.

FkLA
05-09-2013, 04:18 PM
My man, there's a difference between a guy scoring 20 with wide open shots and layups, and a guy getting 20 with a guy in front of him with a hand in his face all night and having to work at it. Jack may have scored that way, but it will not continue every single night as if he was wide open.

Parker's defense isn't the best it's ever been, but it hasn't been terrible. They are going at him a lot to wear him down so his offense suffers. Have seen that tactic many times before throughout other series involving star players. The real problem is the broken rotations and ill-advised double teams on jumpshooters who rarely drive without a head of steam first (or lack of doubling when he's getting posted), and the lack of interior presence to help Duncan on both ends. Not to mention the terrible offensive consistency by everyone on the team not named Tim Duncan.

Doggie you act like Parker was draped all over Jack. For the most part Jack got what he wanted and was rarely bothered on his little step back. Bonner is normally in front of his man with his hands straight up in the air but that doesnt mean the offensive players shot is being bothered. Parkers D is no different.

Kidd K
05-09-2013, 05:32 PM
This.


This forum has a 'pile-on' mentality that is not exactly unbiased or overly objective in its assessment of games by players, Virtually everyone who trashes Parker on this forum has another Spur who is their favorite, whether Tim or Manu or Leonard. When a team loses, it normally is as a team, but on this forum, it is normally because of Parker.

Yeah man, I don't get why people are doing that. Our team is in trouble, there's no question about that. . .but Parker is not near the top of the priority list on stuff I would fix. Some people here expect he should be able to guard guys half a foot taller than him.


Doggie you act like Parker was draped all over Jack. For the most part Jack got what he wanted and was rarely bothered on his little step back. Bonner is normally in front of his man with his hands straight up in the air but that doesnt mean the offensive players shot is being bothered. Parkers D is no different.

I didn't say he was draped all over Jack, I was providing an example of how the way in which a guy gets his numbers matters more than the numbers themselves. They're more of an indicator of the numbers they will put up in the future. Parker wasn't leaving Jack wide open, he was playing him fairly well. Sometimes guys just hit. It happens.

As for the hands up thing, that's how the Spurs usually play defense. They're trying to play D without fouling. It isn't like they're stacked with athleticism and size and can play athletic defense like the Grizzlies and Bulls. Hate to say it, but Parker needs to conserve his energy when on defense because barely anyone else on the team can handle the ball anymore. Manu has declined so much that he is unreliable now. Parker should only be just staying in front of people and forcing them to take somewhat contested 18-20 footers. Not trying to get blocks or some shit and wearing himself out so he goes 5-20 every night.

FkLA
05-09-2013, 06:39 PM
I didn't say he was draped all over Jack, I was providing an example of how the way in which a guy gets his numbers matters more than the numbers themselves. They're more of an indicator of the numbers they will put up in the future. Parker wasn't leaving Jack wide open, he was playing him fairly well. Sometimes guys just hit. It happens.

As for the hands up thing, that's how the Spurs usually play defense. They're trying to play D without fouling. It isn't like they're stacked with athleticism and size and can play athletic defense like the Grizzlies and Bulls. Hate to say it, but Parker needs to conserve his energy when on defense because barely anyone else on the team can handle the ball anymore. Manu has declined so much that he is unreliable now. Parker should only be just staying in front of people and forcing them to take somewhat contested 18-20 footers. Not trying to get blocks or some shit and wearing himself out so he goes 5-20 every night.

What? First off its not like hes doing much on offense, hes disappearing on that side for long periods at a time. Apparently hes struggling to use his speed advantage over the same guy that easily uses his size advantage on the other end (Thompson). Secondly, no he shouldnt be doing that in the 4th quarter when the Spurs are trying to mount a comeback...go look at the tape, once the Spurs got within single digits Mark Jackson went right at Parker. Thats how they held the Spurs off, basically by trading baskets down the stretch.

gilmor
05-09-2013, 06:47 PM
What? First off its not like hes doing much on offense, hes disappearing on that side for long periods at a time. Apparently hes struggling to use his speed advantage over the same guy that easily uses his size advantage on the other end (Thompson). Secondly, no he shouldnt be doing that in the 4th quarter when the Spurs are trying to mount a comeback...go look at the tape, once the Spurs got within single digits Mark Jackson went right at Parker. Thats how they held the Spurs off, basically by trading baskets down the stretch.

Maybe the simple reason why Jackson is doing that is because he knows Parker is typically will be worn out in the 4th quarter. The best strategy is to beat the worn out player and prevent him from scoring by making him play defence.

Bill_Brasky
05-09-2013, 07:36 PM
Thompson is having a way better post season than Sefolosha. I think someone might have actually had to have ingested crack in their disgustingly fat be@nermom's shitwomb to think he isn't just as good or even a little better.

hater
05-09-2013, 07:42 PM
Sefolosha? :lol try Dwayne Wade

therealtruth
05-09-2013, 09:36 PM
Curry said before the series his toughest matchup was Parker. The Spurs are bailing him out by allowing him to not play defense. They've got to figure out that to even the matchup and allow TP to be TP.

itzsoweezee
05-09-2013, 09:42 PM
Spurs have got to let Parker guard Barnes one-on-one. I'd rather they run the offense through Barnes than Thompson or Curry any day.

FkLA
05-09-2013, 10:03 PM
Maybe the simple reason why Jackson is doing that is because he knows Parker is typically will be worn out in the 4th quarter. The best strategy is to beat the worn out player and prevent him from scoring by making him play defence.

This is so retarded. By that logic shouldnt Parker use his speed advantage over Klay, and shouldnt Klay be tired and not have anything left in the tank for offense?


Thompson is having a way better post season than Sefolosha. I think someone might have actually had to have ingested crack in their disgustingly fat be@nermom's shitwomb to think he isn't just as good or even a little better.

The comparison is strictly about defense you moron.

Kori Ellis timvp can yall reprimand this douche for his racism too, please. Thanks.

gilmor
05-09-2013, 10:28 PM
This is so retarded. By that logic shouldnt Parker use his speed advantage over Klay, and shouldnt Klay be tired and not have anything left in the tank for offense?

It is not retarded if you consider Parker is hurt/worn down coming into this playoffs. He has been playing unbelieveably for the whole season and that's the reason Spurs get to play Lakers in Round 1. Thompson is younger and obviously not worn down coming into this playoffs.

Have you considered the reason why Spurs lost is because there is only one day between the 1st 2 games, and that the team is mostly all veterans who took longer to recover. Case in point, Manu and Tim, haven't been stellar in this first 2 games.

Bill_Brasky
05-09-2013, 10:41 PM
Apparently the guy who hates French people has room to play the racism card.

Brazil
05-09-2013, 11:17 PM
Apparently the guy who hates French people has room to play the racism card.

Utsa ****** also cannot articulate two sentences without saying faggot

007nites
05-10-2013, 12:26 AM
could bruce stop klay or steph? what do you guys think?

No doubt

FkLA
05-10-2013, 04:48 AM
Apparently the guy who hates French people has room to play the racism card.

Do you even know what playing the racism card is, you moron ?


Utsa ****** also cannot articulate two sentences without saying faggot

Look at you, Ive made you so angry youve begun to call me a be@ner too. :lol

Kidd K
05-10-2013, 10:10 AM
What? First off its not like hes doing much on offense, hes disappearing on that side for long periods at a time. Apparently hes struggling to use his speed advantage over the same guy that easily uses his size advantage on the other end (Thompson). Secondly, no he shouldnt be doing that in the 4th quarter when the Spurs are trying to mount a comeback...go look at the tape, once the Spurs got within single digits Mark Jackson went right at Parker. Thats how they held the Spurs off, basically by trading baskets down the stretch.

He's not playing well on offense because they are going at him so hard. That's why he needs to not be trying to play bulldog defense for the entire game. Obviously excluding late in the 4th quarter.

Parker's defense is nowhere near the #1 problem, so I don't see the point in harping on it like he cost us the game. Klay Thompson going 8-9 from three and scoring 34 points while Green/Neal going a combined 6/21 (28.5%) might be the bigger problem. Not Parker's defense on Jack who has been contained in both games or Curry who got held to 22/4/4 on 35% shooting in game 2.

Thompson has killed us both games. That's the real problem defensively. And that isn't a guy Parker is supposed to be responsible for.

rmt
05-10-2013, 11:56 AM
Yeah man, I don't get why people are doing that. Our team is in trouble, there's no question about that. . .but Parker is not near the top of the priority list on stuff I would fix. Some people here expect he should be able to guard guys half a foot taller than him.



I didn't say he was draped all over Jack, I was providing an example of how the way in which a guy gets his numbers matters more than the numbers themselves. They're more of an indicator of the numbers they will put up in the future. Parker wasn't leaving Jack wide open, he was playing him fairly well. Sometimes guys just hit. It happens.

As for the hands up thing, that's how the Spurs usually play defense. They're trying to play D without fouling. It isn't like they're stacked with athleticism and size and can play athletic defense like the Grizzlies and Bulls. Hate to say it, but Parker needs to conserve his energy when on defense because barely anyone else on the team can handle the ball anymore. Manu has declined so much that he is unreliable now. Parker should only be just staying in front of people and forcing them to take somewhat contested 18-20 footers. Not trying to get blocks or some shit and wearing himself out so he goes 5-20 every night.

Why are they trying to play D without fouling? Look at CHI - they don't care how many fouls they lay on MIA - they're not going to allow MIA to push them around. I say foul them a lot - then do hack-a-Bogut - that'll affect their interior defense and TP can penetrate. This trying to not foul is for the birds and encourages their free-flowing offense. If Pop is going to play Bonner and Neal, put them to use, make them foul whoever's wearing out TP and slow down the game.

Horse
05-10-2013, 12:50 PM
I think he's done fine against jack but hes just one luck chuck motherfucker hopefully that cools off. I mean can they continue to take so many low percentage shots and keep hitting them? I would say no. However they need to never leave curry or thompson everyone else we can live with. If they drive let Timmy and Tiago take care of them and most important make them pay.

Brazil
05-10-2013, 03:18 PM
Look at you, Ive made you so angry youve begun to call me a be@ner too. :lol

u remember me english not good, me learning new words, be@ner bad ?

monkeypunk
05-10-2013, 03:24 PM
Why are they trying to play D without fouling? Look at CHI - they don't care how many fouls they lay on MIA - they're not going to allow MIA to push them around. I say foul them a lot - then do hack-a-Bogut - that'll affect their interior defense and TP can penetrate. This trying to not foul is for the birds and encourages their free-flowing offense. If Pop is going to play Bonner and Neal, put them to use, make them foul whoever's wearing out TP and slow down the game.

Agreed, we have defensive muscles in there somewhere, we've seen it in the 2nd half of both games. We just need to flex those muscles from the start and use all of our bench fouls in the process.

On Tony, it's obvious he's not 100% movement wise which affects his mobility on defense.

Also agree about Thompson, let Curry get his but stop Thompson and the game opens up. He's the reason we won the 1st game (by fouling out) and why they won the 2nd game (by not fouling out.)

Brazil
05-10-2013, 03:30 PM
FUCK YOU!! This is just disrespectful to TONY.. Stop making thread like this man.. Have some respect for the guy.. His trying to give everything for this team...

EricB
05-10-2013, 03:35 PM
:lmao Thompson is probably the best defender for the warriors this series

Thompson is eating all our guards alive. It's not even funny. Too bad Stephen Jackson was waived


Yeah play a slow wing against Thompson. That would've worked...