George Hill is a Chucker Too

[DMC]

It rarely fails that, when I look at a box score for the Pacers, Hill will have at least as many shot attempts as the points leader and be something like 5 for 20.

Just out of curiosity, why is he starting? He wasn't worth a fuck as a PG in SA, and he's not worth a fuck as a PG in Indiana. Nothing against George or the photo of his penis, but surely there are some decent shooters out there that Indiana could use. Is it a homerism issue with those yokels?

[100%duncan]

who fucking cares about Hill, Indiana or the East. Heat is coming out of that shit hole.

/thread.

[DMC]

who fucking cares about Hill, Indiana or the East. Heat is coming out of that shit hole.

/thread.

Heat is coming out of your shithole?

[100%duncan]

Heat is coming out of your shithole?

Your takes/threads have been awful this year imho. Just a heads up. :tu

Edit: Must be experiencing mid-life crisis :lol

[DMC]

I fully expect to see Hill traded again asap. If you look back even into the beginning of the 1st series, he's had a couple of games where he shot 50%. The rest of the time he's been around 30%. When a PG takes 15 or more shots a game and goes 0-6 from 3, 1-7 from 3, 4 for 17 for the night... regularly... something is wrong. Hill is not cut out to be a PG.

[DMC]

Your takes/threads have been awful this year imho. Just a heads up. :tu

Be nice to me. I just hosted a Filipino engineer for two weeks. Your country will be changed forever (for the better). Sorry our middle earners moved there and fucked all your tribal looking women from the province. It happens.

[apalisoc_9]

Who do you want to take the shots op? Hibbert-West-George arnt exactly the type of guys who would average 20 shots a game even if you wanted them to shot 20..

[100%duncan]

Be nice to me. I just hosted a Filipino engineer for two weeks. Your country will be changed forever (for the better). Sorry our middle earners moved there and fucked all your tribal looking women from the province. It happens.

:cry Country smack

:lmao that's for middle school kids :lmao
:lmao midlife crisis :lmao

[DMC]

Who do you want to take the shots op? Hibbert-West-George arnt exactly the type of guys who would average 20 shots a game even if you wanted them to shot 20..

Read my question. Why is Hill a starting PG? The Pacers should acquire a true PG which would mean George only gets shots when he's open and isn't the 1st option after the inbounds play.

[DMC]

:cry Country smack

:lmao that's for middle school kids :lmao
:lmao midlife crisis :lmao

Thanks for the midlife comment, makes me feel young again.

How many of your family are owned by Americans over there? Just out of curiosity...

[100%duncan]

Thanks for the midlife comment, makes me feel young again.

How many of your family are owned by Americans over there? Just out of curiosity...

:cry country smack because he can't rebutt properly :cry

I called you out for having shitty takes, opening up stupid threads brah seriously, don't get hurt although the truth sometimes hurts. :lol You want me to bump all your fucking threads? :lmao

[DMC]

I posed a claim and asked a question. Your rebuttal was that it didn't matter and you're attempting to project your homerism ass hurt onto me. It's ok, you're from upstairs and you don't know better.

The "grade school" comment right before "midlife crisis" makes a lot of sense too. Then you follow up with that "shitty takes brah" predictable response. You're a George Hill lover.

[100%duncan]

I posed a claim and asked a question. Your rebuttal was that it didn't matter and you're attempting to project your homerism ass hurt onto me. It's ok, you're from upstairs and you don't know better.

The "grade school" comment right before "midlife crisis" makes a lot of sense too. Then you follow up with that "shitty takes brah" predictable response. You're a George Hill lover.

Homerism? Was there any mention of the Spurs? :lmao I said the Heat right, and it all makes sense becasue no one's going to beat em there.

George Hill lover? :lol Drawing a stupid conclusion again, classic DMC. :lmao just like all your shitty takes :lmao

[apalisoc_9]

Read my question. Why is Hill a starting PG? The Pacers should acquire a true PG which would mean George only gets shots when he's open and isn't the 1st option after the inbounds play.

Maybe because Agustin is the next guy of the bench? Hill has always been overrated but he's probably one of the better combo guards in the league top 10-15..Not bad of a player. And where the hell did you get the idea that he's a 1st option? Hardly..

[HarlemHeat37]

He's open a lot, tbh..

In tonight's game, for instance, the Knicks left him open all game and overplayed the rest of the Pacers, leading to like 8-9 open 3 attempts for Hill..

Indiana has been actively interested in acquiring a PG IIRC, but the options are scarce..I'd be surprised if they don't actively pursue a PG in the off-season, especially with Granger's contract ending next year..

[DMC]

Maybe because Agustin is the next guy of the bench? Hill has always been overrated but he's probably one of the better combo guards in the league top 10-15..Not bad of a player. And where the hell did you get the idea that he's a 1st option? Hardly..
The PG is always the 1st option because he brings the ball up the court. Not the 1st option on designed plays, but by the nature of the role of PG. The number of shots he takes says he's a shooting PG. The fact he doesn't get a lot of assists attests to that a bit as well. A PG who averages 35 minutes a game and less that 5 assists isn't a pass first guard unless you just think his team cannot hit from the setups he gives them. The number of shots he takes says he's not looking to set people up or that he simply cannot do that effectively (just like in SA). He doesn't have great court vision or court awareness and his handles aren't that great. Combo perhaps, but any decent SG in the league can do that if called upon. He's just bringing the ball up.

[DMC]

He's open a lot, tbh..

In tonight's game, for instance, the Knicks left him open all game and overplayed the rest of the Pacers, leading to like 8-9 open 3 attempts for Hill..

Indiana has been actively interested in acquiring a PG IIRC, but the options are scarce..I'd be surprised if they don't actively pursue a PG in the off-season, especially with Granger's contract ending next year..

Now see, take notes. This is a decent answer. Hill isn't their first choice, they just don't have any options right now.

Hill is left open, which is why I find it odd that he shoots so poorly from 3. Someone told me he was taking 1000 shots a day during the summer. What happened with that?

It just never fails when I check their box scores Hill is always the sucky one.

Meh, they also have Hansburro, so I shouldn't be surprised. Hibbert is looking good though.

[DMC]

Homerism? Was there any mention of the Spurs? :lmao I said the Heat right, and it all makes sense becasue no one's going to beat em there.

George Hill lover? :lol Drawing a stupid conclusion again, classic DMC. :lmao just like all your shitty takes :lmao

I stirred up your hornet's nest I see. Get over it, aso.

[Chinook]

I fully expect to see Hill traded again asap.

I don't know if I agree. Hill's contract is pretty toxic. He's not a great starter, nor is he an elite sixth man. I think the Pacers need to make a run at a Ginobili-like guard to play next to him, like Kidd could do with Terry. Maybe they'll be interested in De Colo this off-season.

[Chinook]

He's open a lot, tbh..

In tonight's game, for instance, the Knicks left him open all game and overplayed the rest of the Pacers, leading to like 8-9 open 3 attempts for Hill..

Indiana has been actively interested in acquiring a PG IIRC, but the options are scarce..I'd be surprised if they don't actively pursue a PG in the off-season, especially with Granger's contract ending next year..

A couple of things: First, I wonder if Devin Harris is an option. Second, if the Pacers can unload Granger onto a team that has cap space (I could see Dallas renting him for a year), do you think they have a chance to land an elite free-agent point-guard? I don't think they do. The best they could hope for is overpaying Jennings, which would be a horrible waste of money.

[apalisoc_9]

The PG is always the 1st option because he brings the ball up the court. Not the 1st option on designed plays, but by the nature of the role of PG. The number of shots he takes says he's a shooting PG. The fact he doesn't get a lot of assists attests to that a bit as well. A PG who averages 35 minutes a game and less that 5 assists isn't a pass first guard unless you just think his team cannot hit from the setups he gives them. The number of shots he takes says he's not looking to set people up or that he simply cannot do that effectively (just like in SA). He doesn't have great court vision or court awareness and his handles aren't that great. Combo perhaps, but any decent SG in the league can do that if called upon. He's just bringing the ball up.

yeah, I thought you were talking about design plays. You said it yourself though, hill doesn't have great court vision or court awareness so naturally scoring would be his first option regardless if you told him to pass first, he's just not the type of player.

Indiana is way to obsessed with "2 way" players. He's still an average offensive player that can make shots at times and a decent but overrated defender. Indiana is probably trying to find a better PG, but there arnt many options in the market tbh. So it's either him or Agustin. Indiana is also a below average offenisve team, so if you could end up with a streaking Hill it's probably worth the risk.

[DMC]

The Pacers don't need a shoot first PG. They need a really good point foward.

[100%duncan]

I stirred up your hornet's nest I see. Get over it, aso.

Wanna play this game? :lol

Bump threads or post of me being a homer to GHill :lol

And I'll bump your threads with stupid takes :lol let's see who wins :lol

Get over it, grandpa. :lmao

[DMC]

Wanna play this game? :lol

Bump threads or post of me being a homer to GHill :lol

And I'll bump your threads with stupid takes :lol let's see who wins :lol

Get over it, grandpa. :lmao

It's my thread. Looks like others have no problem participating. It's just you.

[100%duncan]

It's my thread. Looks like others have no problem participating. It's just you.

Nice way to subtly submit pops. :lol

[DJ Mbenga]

hill is the rare guy who's getting paid about what he earns. and thats bad. george gonna look at his contract and be like "lol, give me the max then"

[DMC]

Nice way to subtly submit pops. :lol

What exactly did I submit to? Go ahead pigmy, bump till your heart's content.

[Quadzilla99]

A lot of this is based on his contract. Its funny how much of NBA player evaluations are based on contracts. Same guy makes 2 million and he's a steal and everybody loves him.

[DMC]

So his contract makes him a chucker. Got it.

[Raven]

i think a chucker is one that doesn't want to pass and prefers to take ill advised shots, but hill has been wide open so many times that he had to shoot a lot. He wasn't taking bad shots, it's just that he was ice cold, he usually is not that bad and defends very well.

[DMC]

So then by that line of reasoning, if Roy Hibbert was open from 25" he should shoot.

Also, PG, < 5 assists a game, shooting 34%, playing 35 minutes a game.

There's a reason he's open.

[Quadzilla99]

So his contract makes him a chucker. Got it.

You're such a shitty poster. A lot of it comes from your love of this term "chucker" which you throw around and then act like its some kind of high level basketball analysis. Hills TS was 55.8 perfectly fine, efficient shooting. He could help himself by getting to the line more if he wants to increase his shooting efficiency. Learn basketball.

[Quadzilla99]

So, Steph Curry is a chucker because he shoots too many threes even though he hits 45% and a 55.8 TS is inefficient shooting. Just to summarize.

[DMC]

You're such a shitty poster. A lot of it comes from your love of this term "chucker" which you throw around and then act like its some kind of high level basketball analysis. Hills TS was 55.8 perfectly fine, efficient shooting. He could help himself by getting to the line more if he wants to increase his shooting efficiency. Learn basketball.

What exactly is a chucker?

[DMC]

So, Steph Curry is a chucker because he shoots too many threes even though he hits 45% and a 55.8 TS is inefficient shooting. Just to summarize.

No, he's a chucker because he takes ill advised shots even if he makes them more often than most people would. When he's off, he still takes those shots. Some of you seem to think the term "shot selection" only applies to average shooters. It applies to everyone. Heat check on every possession is bad basketball.

[Brazil]

I, for one, call chucker a guy who constantly takes ill advised shots and "forget" his team mates that have better looks than him... see Bryant, Iverson... Hill is not in that category imho.

As mentioned the other teams let him open so when he is on the floor he must take these shots, better taking those than passing them. When Diaw / Bonner are wide open I get mad when they don't take the shots cauz it kills the offense and you never do something good out of that. Even if they miss team is on position to grab a rebound.

Hill the guy who supposedly was good enough to trade parker according to spurs fans :lol is a borderline nba starter, I believe he would be better at SG. Never saw Hill as a PG tbh.

[Raven]

So then by that line of reasoning, if Roy Hibbert was open from 25" he should shoot.

Also, PG, < 5 assists a game, shooting 34%, playing 35 minutes a game.

There's a reason he's open.

well no, if he doesn't have that range, that's automatically an ill advised shot. Hill has shown he can knock those down.

[DMC]

well no, if he doesn't have that range, that's automatically an ill advised shot. Hill has shown he can knock those down.

So you think 32 percent on wide open shots means he has "that range"?

[Raven]

So you think 32 percent on wide open shots means he has "that range"?
he's a career .37 3pt shooter which is good enough..

[DMC]

he's a career .37 3pt shooter which is good enough..

Only 35 in the playoffs, and that's where he is now.

[DMC]

Kevin Martin is shooting 36% in the playoffs from 3 and 38% from the floor.

Is that good enough for the Thunder?

[hater]

If Curry and HIll are chukers

what does that make Ginobili, Bonner, Green and Neal :lol and Parker and Duncan for that matter

we have an entire roster full of chukers according to the OP :lmao

[DMC]

If Curry and HIll are chukers

what does that make Ginobili, Bonner, Green and Neal :lol

Ginobili is a 3 time champ, bad motherfucking gold medalist (beat the USA).

Green is a chucker

Neal is shitty rapist chucker

[hater]

Ginobili is a 3 time champ, bad motherfucking gold medalist (beat the USA).


well he's a chuker now

[DMC]

well he's a chuker now

He's an anomaly. He has other things he does that makes his chucking bearable. Hill doesn't really do anything else. Cannot dribble, isn't a good time management person, isn't clutch. Manu is a clutch motherfucker, game closing bad Argentinian beef master.

Would you rather have Manu or Hill taking the last shot of the game when you need it to win? Would you close with Manu or Hill if you had to choose?

[Raven]

Kevin Martin is shooting 36% in the playoffs from 3 and 38% from the floor.

Is that good enough for the Thunder?

it would be if he wasn't a turnstile tbh

[DMC]

it would be if he wasn't a turnstile tbh

So it's not good enough.

[Raven]

So it's not good enough.

it wouldn't even if it was .420, since Hill is not a turnstile, that percentage is decent tbh.

[spurraider21]

Ginobili is a 3 time champ, bad motherfucking gold medalist (beat the USA).

Green is a chucker

Neal is shitty rapist chucker
:lmao :lmao

:lol Danny Green averaging less than 9 shots per game and is a chucker
:lol bitches about homerism the gives an elnono-esque take on Manu (not that i disagree tbh, but he's playing favorites. if you call george hill/danny green chuckers, Manu HAS TO apply)
:lol by his standards chucker = a guard that scores more than 8 points per game besides Manu

[DMC]

2013 Playoffs George Hill



Rk
G
Date
Age
Tm

Opp

GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
GmSc


1
1
2013-04-21 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201304210IND.html)
26-352
IND (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/IND/2013.html)

ATL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2013.html)
W (+17)
1
36:43
7
10
.700
3
4
.750
1
1
1.000
0
3
3
2
0
0
1
2
18
14.3


2
2
2013-04-24 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201304240IND.html)
26-355
IND (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/IND/2013.html)

ATL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2013.html)
W (+15)
1
32:07
7
12
.583
4
7
.571
4
4
1.000
1
2
3
3
2
0
2
1
22
19.4


3
3
2013-04-27 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201304270ATL.html)
26-358
IND (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/IND/2013.html)
@
ATL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2013.html)
L (-21)
1
28:24
1

8
.125
0

3
.000
1
2
.500
0
2
2
3
1
1
3
1
3
-1.6


4
4
2013-04-29 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201304290ATL.html)
26-360
IND (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/IND/2013.html)
@
ATL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2013.html)
L (-11)
1
40:49
4

15
.267

0

6
.000
4
4
1.000
0
2
2
6
3
0
2
1
12
8.5


5
5
2013-05-01 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305010IND.html)
26-362
IND (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/IND/2013.html)

ATL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2013.html)
W (+23)
1
35:49
5
10
.500
1

5
.200
4
4
1.000
1
4
5
10
1
0
1
3
15
17.7


6
6
2013-05-03 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305030ATL.html)
26-364
IND (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/IND/2013.html)
@
ATL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2013.html)
W (+8)
1
35:34
7
14
.500
2
5
.400
5
7
.714
1
6
7
2
2
0
4
3
21
13.9


7
7
2013-05-05 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305050NYK.html)
27-001
IND (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/IND/2013.html)
@
NYK (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2013.html)
W (+7)
1
42:55
5

17
.294
2

9
.222
2
2
1.000
0
7
7
6
0
0
1
0
14
9.4


8
8
2013-05-07 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305070NYK.html)
27-003
IND (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/IND/2013.html)
@
NYK (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2013.html)
L (-26)
1
33:54
4

11
.364
2

5
.400
2
4
.500
0
3
3
7
0
1
4
3
12
6.4


9
9
2013-05-11 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305110IND.html)
27-007
IND (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/IND/2013.html)

NYK (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2013.html)
W (+11)
1
40:46
5

16
.313
5

12
.417
2
2
1.000
0
6
6
1
1
0
3
4
17
6.7

[DMC]

2013 Playoffs Danny Green






Rk
G
Date
Age
Tm

Opp

GS
MP
FG
FGA
FG%
3P
3PA
3P%
FT
FTA
FT%
ORB
DRB
TRB
AST
STL
BLK
TOV
PF
PTS
GmSc


1
1
2013-04-21 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201304210SAS.html)
25-303
SAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2013.html)

LAL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2013.html)
W (+12)
1
25:13
2

6
.333
2
5
.400
0
0

0
4
4
0
1
0
0
1
6
4.4


2
2
2013-04-24 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201304240SAS.html)
25-306
SAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2013.html)

LAL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2013.html)
W (+11)
1
20:14
1

5
.200
0
1
.000
0
0

0
3
3
2
1
1
2
2
2
0.1


3
3
2013-04-26 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201304260LAL.html)
25-308
SAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2013.html)
@
LAL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2013.html)
W (+31)
1
23:54
5
7
.714
1
3
.333
0
0

0
4
4
4
1
0
0
1
11
12.7


4
4
2013-04-28 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201304280LAL.html)
25-310
SAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2013.html)
@
LAL (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2013.html)
W (+21)
1
23:37
4

11
.364
1
3
.333
0
0

2
3
5
2
0
1
0
1
9
6.9


5
5
2013-05-06 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305060SAS.html)
25-318
SAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2013.html)

GSW (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2013.html)
W (+2)
1
44:09
8

14
.571
6
9
.667
0
0

0
1
1
1
3
2
2
0
22
18.8


6
6
2013-05-08 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305080SAS.html)
25-320
SAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2013.html)

GSW (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2013.html)
L (-9)
1
31:39
4

12
.333
2

6
.333
0
0

2
4
6
2
1
1
0
4
10
7.3


7
7
2013-05-10 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305100GSW.html)
25-322
SAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2013.html)
@
GSW (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2013.html)
W (+10)
1
33:20
1

3
.333
1
3
.333

0
0

1
3
4
3
0
1
1
3
3
3.5


8
8
2013-05-12 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305120GSW.html)
25-324
SAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2013.html)
@
GSW (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2013.html)
L (-10)
1
39:25
4

13
.308
2

9
.222
0
2
.000
4
3
7
0
2
1
0
2
10
7.3

[DMC]

Because Green had the game in blue, the games in red are automatically being ignored.


Hill had more "good" games this post season than Danny, but Hill stunk it up more and took more shots in the games where he was bad.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I don't watch enough Pacers basketball (too brutal on the eyes) to comment on George Hill, but watching Tim's Bank Manager trying to talk smack about any other poster is lolworthy, considering his ST resume

[Clipper Nation]

Hill's been chucking up ridiculous shit tonight and it's going in, tbh.....

[Josepatches_]

Can' t understand the hate on Hill.

He's a good player and his team is one of the best in the league with him at PG

[dunkman]

Hill is a combo guard, hence better suited for a sixth-man type of role.
He's an very efficient scorer, he drives well, shots great, can bring the ball up, but he can't create for others. On defense, he play reasonably well.
He had one good series for the Spurs vs the Mavs.
He's carrying the Pacers right now to a probable 3:1 win. No way the Knicks came back from that.

[DMC]

Didn't say he didn't have decent shooting nights. Still a chucker. Would have chucked more if he wasn't pulled.

[Quadzilla99]

He's not "carrying" the Pacers.

[HI-FI]

Can' t understand the hate on Hill.

He's a good player and his team is one of the best in the league with him at PG
there is no reason to hate on him. but it's ST, we hate each other and everything.