Zen Master carpet bombing Kobe Nation

[spurraider21]

Link to full article (http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-phil-jackson-kobe-20130516,0,4853067.story?page=1&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedburner&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fsports%2Fbasketball %2Fnba%2Flakers+%28Lakers+Now%29&track=rss)

Long story short, calls him an inferior offensive player, defensive player, and leader to MJ.


:downspin: that

[Splits]

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[jeebus]

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[Clipper Nation]

"Michael was more charismatic and gregarious than Kobe. He loved hanging out with his teammates and security guards, playing cards, smoking cigars, and joking around," Jackson said in the book, which was obtained in advance by The Times.


While Jackson coached, he often jabbed at Bryant's seemingly annual appearance on the NBA (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/national-basketball-association-15008001.topic)'s All-Defensive team. Now we know why.

"No question, Michael was a tougher, more intimidating defender. He could break through virtually any screen and shut down almost any player with his intense, laser-focused style of defense," said Jackson, who coached Jordan to six championships and Shaq, Pau, and Horry to five.


"One of the biggest differences between the two stars from my perspective was Michael's superior skills as a leader," Jackson said. "Though at times he could be hard on his teammates, Michael was masterful at controlling the emotional climate of the team with the power of his presence. Kobe had a long way to go before he could make that claim. He talked a good game, but he'd yet to experience the cold truth of leadership in his bones, as Michael had."


If Bryant talked to teammates in his earlier Lakers years, it was usually, "Give me the damn ball," Jackson wrote.

:downspin: dat shit, Al-Quobe!

[lefty]

Mike liked to hang out with his teammates ?

Not early in his career, he had his personal area in the Bulls plane :lol

[lefty]

:lol


"Jordan was also more naturally inclined to let the game come to him and not overplay his hand, whereas Kobe tends to force the action, especially when the game isn't going his way. When his shot is off, Kobe will pound away relentlessly until his luck turns. Michael, on the other hand, would shift his attention to defense or passing or setting screens to help the team win the game."

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[Cry Havoc]

Water is wet, Jordan is a much better player than Kobe, etc.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol at least this wasn't as bad as the knockout punches he launched at Vino in his first book, tbh..

[spurraider21]

:lol at least this wasn't as bad as the knockout punches he launched at Vino in his first book, tbh..

true, but keep in mind that this book was written after PJ coached the Kobe-Gasol championship teams, as opposed to the Kobe that just ran shaq out of town :lol

[baseline bum]

:lol at least this wasn't as bad as the knockout punches he launched at Vino in his first book, tbh..

Examples?

[whitemamba]

Why should we be mad, he is comparing him to the greatest player to ever play??

I dont see anyone comparing TD to MJ

:downspin:

[Splits]

Examples?


The controversy surrounding the book concerns Jackson's characterization of Bryant and treatment of the breakup. In The Last Season Jackson suggests Bryant's influence on the dissolution and labels him "uncoachable". According to Jackson, in Bryant's exit interview with him he stated that O'Neal's fate with the Lakers would affect his decision to return, saying "I'm tired of being a sidekick." Later in a phone call with Lakers owner Jerry Buss, Jackson recounts Buss's explanation of the team's preference for Bryant rather than O'Neal, of which Jackson disapproved: "It's not that I'm enamored with Kobe's character. But he is twenty-six in August. The seven years ahead are the prime years of his career....I have to serve the people who are loyal to me. My mail runs about 5-1 on Kobe to Shaq." Jackson makes his own departure sound like a mutual decision with Laker management, saying he was "at peace" with the outcome, but he recorded Buss's remark: "We're going in a different direction." But Jackson's thoughts on Bryant caused the most stir. While calling coaching O'Neal "an experience I will cherish forever," his inflammatory comment on Bryant continued to draw attention when Jackson returned for a second coaching stint with the Lakers on June 15, 2005.

[HarlemHeat37]

Examples?

The book covers all of these subjects, in great detail:

- Phil wasn't fully surprised to hear of Kobe's rape accusations

- Kobe's defense is overrated and not worthy of praise

- Kobe was a stat-padder that didn't mind keeping games close so he could inflate his numbers

- Kobe was an angry child and still angry as an adult

- Blamed Kobe for the feud with Shaq

- Kobe is antisocial

- Kobe is selfish on and off the court

- Kobe is a money-hungry diva

- Kobe doesn't have leadership skills

- Kobe was responsible for the only fights that occurred in the Lakers locker room during Jackson's tenure

- Kobe sabotaged the 2004 Finals to get out of Shaq's shadow

- Kobe was angry that Phil said he wasn't the heir apparent to Dad Killer

[AaronY]

Lol, "dad killer"..lettuce C how many dat one catches..

[HarlemHeat37]

It's a great book, btw, I highly recommend it..

[AaronY]

I pre-ordered this book and am excited, if its half as good as the last one Ill be delirious..

[Splits]

Phil wasn't fully surprised to hear of Kobe's rape accusations


Just released footage of when Ms. Faber awoke next to Kirbs:


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[Clipper Nation]

Why should we be mad, he is comparing him to the greatest player to ever play??

I dont see anyone comparing TD to MJ

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That's because Phil didn't coach Duncan, tbh.... he did, however, coach Dad Killer and the Rapist, hence the comparison....

[Thebesteva]

HOLY SHIT....


Jackson even talked about how the sexual-assault charges levied against Bryant in 2003 temporarily changed his outlook on the perennial All-Star.

It "cracked open an old wound" because Jackson's daughter was the victim of an assault while on a date with an athlete in college.

"Brooke expected me to get angry and make her feel protected. Instead I suppressed my rage — as I'd been conditioned to do during childhood by my parents … it left her feeling alone and unsupported. (In the end, after filing a report with the police, Brooke chose not to press charges.)

"The Kobe incident triggered all my unprocessed anger and tainted my perception of him. ... It distorted my view of Kobe throughout the 2003-04 season. No matter what I did to extinguish it, the anger kept smoldering in the background."

[JamStone]

Michael better than Kobe? No shit. Only the most extreme and delusional Kobe fanbois don't realize and acknowledge that.

Not like Jackson is making some new, bold and controversial statement. Pretty much everyone already knows it.

[baseline bum]

LOL, gotta get a copy of both books now.

[Hemotivo]

:reading

[LkrFan]

Michael better than Kobe? No shit. Only the most extreme and delusional Kobe fanbois don't realize and acknowledge that.

Not like Jackson is making some new, bold and controversial statement. Pretty much everyone already knows it.
This. But I understand why this thread exists. Kobe has been a thorn in Duncan's ass for over a decade. It's understandable tbh. :lol

[lefty]

Michael better than Kobe? No shit. Only the most extreme and delusional Kobe fanbois don't realize and acknowledge that.

Not like Jackson is making some new, bold and controversial statement. Pretty much everyone already knows it.
I thought you were a Kobe fanboy

[angelbelow]

Time to download the audiobooks.

[JamStone]

I thought you were a Kobe fanboy

I'm a Kobe fan. Doesn't mean I'm unreasonable or delusional about his status and legacy as a player.

[hater]

:lmao zenmaster

saying shit that even 5 year old half retard can conclude in 5 minutes

writing it in a "book", calling it literature and asking money for it

:lmao ppl paying for his book

[lefty]

I'm a Kobe fan. Doesn't mean I'm unreasonable or delusional about his status and legacy as a player.
fair enough

[whitemamba]

That's because Phil didn't coach Duncan, tbh.... he did, however, coach Dad Killer and the Rapist, hence the comparison....

:lol

[Sportcamper]

I totally agree that Michael Jordon is one of the top 10 players of all time…But lets get real…Kobe destroyed him & chased that old man out of the NBA…As far as Phil Jackson goes…He was given the privilege of coaching the Lakers and he did a good job…But quite frankly even Mike Brown would have won several championships with Shaq, Kobe, Fox, Horry, Fish and Dance Master Mark Madsen….

The Lakers will return to greatness under the leadership of Jim Buss…Time for the Old Zen Master to ride off in the sunset…Nobody cares what he has to say…:toast

[whitemamba]

I totally agree that Michael Jordon is one of the top 10 players of all time…But lets get real…Kobe destroyed him & chased that old man out of the NBA…As far as Phil Jackson goes…He was given the privilege of coaching the Lakers and he did a good job…But quite frankly even Mike Brown would have won several championships with Shaq, Kobe, Fox, Horry, Fish and Dance Master Mark Madsen….

The Lakers will return to greatness under the leadership of Jim Buss…Time for the Old Zen Master to ride off in the sunset…Nobody cares what he has to say…:toast

:tu going ham

[DMC]

"It was as if the other players were now his partners, not his personal spear-carriers." -Phil Jackson



Phil calling Kobe a spear chucker.

[DMC]

I totally agree that Michael Jordon is one of the top 10 players of all time…But lets get real…Kobe destroyed him & chased that old man out of the NBA…As far as Phil Jackson goes…He was given the privilege of coaching the Lakers and he did a good job…But quite frankly even Mike Brown would have won several championships with Shaq, Kobe, Fox, Horry, Fish and Dance Master Mark Madsen….

The Lakers will return to greatness under the leadership of Jim Buss…Time for the Old Zen Master to ride off in the sunset…Nobody cares what he has to say…:toast
You've sucked his balls so fucking dry he'd have to reconstitute them to cum again. Sure you're done with him?

[Asif Ali Zardari]

Phil is a bitter old man, angry that the Lakers didn't hire him this year, thus taking out his frustrations on Kobe. Obviously blind haters choose to ignore this and share his sentiment of biased hatred.

Michael Jordan played in the weakest era of basketball with defenses that were not advanced or sophisticated. He's ahead of Kobe because 6>5, but it's close.

[Venti Quattro]

During his coaching career, Phil also carpet-bombed Pop's face.

Props to him for saying the truth and not sugar-coating it.

[Thebesteva]

"Kobe was hell-bent on surpassing Jordan as the greatest player in the game. His obsession with Michael was striking," Jackson said. "When we played in Chicago that season, I orchestrated a meeting between the two stars, thinking that Michael might help shift Kobe's attitude toward selfless teamwork. After they shook hands, the first words out of Kobe's mouth were, 'You know I can kick your ass one on one.'"

[lefty]

Delusional :lol

[HI-FI]

Shouldn't we be comparing Kobe Bryant realistically? You know, with um... Tracy McGrady, Allen Iverson, Vince Carter, etc.? Guys that are actually in that same talent level?

true. but those guys never bitched their way onto the league's golden franchise, so their careers ended up much worse. Hopefully McGrady can ring with us. also, none of them had this weird need to emulate MJ, including his voice. that's some eerie shit tbh.


what's funny is how many Kobestans on here now claim "of course he's not as good as MJ, but least he's next in line". I pretty much guarantee that any Kobe fanboy was proclaiming him capable of being better than MJ a few years ago, when most of us knew he'd never reach that pinnacle. no matter how many championships, Kobe is like a shitty knockoff brand of MJ. ever since Achilles happened, now I see a lot of history revisionists.

it's funny to see that Phil repeats what we've been saying on ST, that Kobe is a crappy defender, will sabotage a team if he isn't given his due, is uncoachable, a sociopath and rapist. I still don't know why Laker fans prefer him over Magic who is a true top 5 player and good person, not a top 15 player, but to each their own.

[whitemamba]

true. but those guys never bitched their way onto the league's golden franchise, so their careers ended up much worse. Hopefully McGrady can ring with us. also, none of them had this weird need to emulate MJ, including his voice. that's some eerie shit tbh.


what's funny is how many Kobestans on here now claim "of course he's not as good as MJ, but least he's next in line". I pretty much guarantee that any Kobe fanboy was proclaiming him capable of being better than MJ a few years ago, when most of us knew he'd never reach that pinnacle. no matter how many championships, Kobe is like a shitty knockoff brand of MJ. ever since Achilles happened, now I see a lot of history revisionists.

it's funny to see that Phil repeats what we've been saying on ST, that Kobe is a crappy defender, will sabotage a team if he isn't given his due, is uncoachable, a sociopath and rapist. I still don't know why Laker fans prefer him over Magic who is a true top 5 player and good person, not a top 15 player, but to each their own.

lol, hollywood.

[HI-FI]

lol, hollywood.
by good person, I don't mean sexually responsible. Obviously he banged tons of people and let the boys of SUnset Blvd blow loads inside of him....which unfortunately I think the DNA mutations got passed to his son.

but overall Magic will always be a better person than Kobe. and least he's a true top 10 player....

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol

[lefty]

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[DMC]

If Phil doesn't mention how overrated he was as a coach, it's all bullshit and he's not to be trusted.