Kobbie Pippen reacts to Phil's comparison tothe GOAT

[lefty]

:lol Asshurt

:lol if MJ played with Shaq, he would have at least 10 titles


Kobe Bryant ‏@kobebryant (https://twitter.com/kobebryant)17 May (https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/335485124219129856)
The comparisons are #apples2oranges (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23apples2oranges&src=hash) Wonder what the perception would be if M played wit @shaq (https://twitter.com/SHAQ) instead #differentroles (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23differentroles&src=hash) #differentcareerpaths (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23differentcareerpaths&src=hash)

[rayjayjohnson]

#rapist

[irishock]

He's so fucken sensitive it's unbelievable.

[Spurs da champs]

lol @ a couple of Kobe's fans reassuring him:

"you're still my favorite"

"I still think you're still the goat"

:rolleyes

[rayjayjohnson]

lol @ a couple of Kobe's fans reassuring him:

"you're still my favorite"

"I still think you're still the goat"

:rolleyes
I bet they're Asian tbh

[lefty]

I bet they're Asian tbh
:lol

[LkrFan]

MJ is GOAT period point blank. No question. However...

He would not be the MJ as we know him if he had to play with Shaq. Shaq would have still been the first option and MJ would have been relegated to Robin status. In order to make his claim as a top-10 player all time, Shaq had to go. So when Shaq's lease was up, Kobe decided not to renew it.

MJ's Era was weaker in competition in terms of players that were comparable to him size wise. Nique, Reggie, Dumars, Majerle. That's it. Now compare Kobe's Era of comp. Bron, Wade, Vincanity, Ray Allen, AI, Allen Houston (before his decline), Sprewell - just off the top of my head. Simply put, I know if they were switched, Kobe would dominate the same players that MJ did. No doubt in my mind. And of course, vice versa.

The biggest difference for me between the two is discipline/shot selection. MJ took bad shots, but not nearly at the same clip as Kobe. Now in Kobe's defense, he was put in that situation more often than not. 3 seconds left on the clock: pass it to Kobe! End of game, Shaq's in foul trouble: pass it to Kobe! But also from Kobe's perspective: my teammates are Smush, Cook, Kwame, Inconsistent Odumb - I'm shooting! :lol

Kobe will never get his due, especially around these parts. His legacy, for better or for worst, is sealed. I'm comfortable as a Laker Fan in knowing that despite his shortcomings or perceived failures by some, I'm proud of the fact that he left it all on the court. MJ recognized that. That's why he said he would choose Kobe over Bron. You may hate Kobe for whatever reason, but you must respect him.

[spurraider21]

If like Kobe, MJ spent his first 8 seasons with a dominant big man, he'd have 10+ rings tbh

[rayjayjohnson]

...and he raped.

[jeebus]

I bet they're Asian tbh

and not the fun asian where they make cheap clothes for us or let us use their women as sex toys. they're probably the shitty asian from one of the 'stans

[JoeTait75]

MJ is GOAT period point blank. No question.

I don't necessarily agree, tbh.

[whitemamba]

...and he raped.

innocent tbh, she had had humanities semen reserve in her panties.

[rayjayjohnson]

innocent tbh, she had had humanities semen reserve in her panties.
Doesn't prove shit.

[Richie]

The question is whether MJ would have hounded Shaq out of Chicago if they had played together.

Kobe would rather lose on his own than win with Shaq. If Jordan really is the winner everybody says he was, would he really make the same choice or would he be happy challenging Russells rings record with Shaq?

[HI-FI]

MJ is GOAT period point blank. No question. However...

He would not be the MJ as we know him if he had to play with Shaq. Shaq would have still been the first option and MJ would have been relegated to Robin status. In order to make his claim as a top-10 player all time, Shaq had to go. So when Shaq's lease was up, Kobe decided not to renew it.

MJ's Era was weaker in competition in terms of players that were comparable to him size wise. Nique, Reggie, Dumars, Majerle. That's it. Now compare Kobe's Era of comp. Bron, Wade, Vincanity, Ray Allen, AI, Allen Houston (before his decline), Sprewell - just off the top of my head. Simply put, I know if they were switched, Kobe would dominate the same players that MJ did. No doubt in my mind. And of course, vice versa.

The biggest difference for me between the two is discipline/shot selection. MJ took bad shots, but not nearly at the same clip as Kobe. Now in Kobe's defense, he was put in that situation more often than not. 3 seconds left on the clock: pass it to Kobe! End of game, Shaq's in foul trouble: pass it to Kobe! But also from Kobe's perspective: my teammates are Smush, Cook, Kwame, Inconsistent Odumb - I'm shooting! :lol

Kobe will never get his due, especially around these parts. His legacy, for better or for worst, is sealed. I'm comfortable as a Laker Fan in knowing that despite his shortcomings or perceived failures by some, I'm proud of the fact that he left it all on the court. MJ recognized that. That's why he said he would choose Kobe over Bron. You may hate Kobe for whatever reason, but you must respect him.
well according to Phil, MJ also had much better defense, leadership skills along with better shot selection.

but you probably know MJ and Kobe better than Phil.

i don't know what's worse, the shit you wrote above or the fact I read it.

[Thebesteva]

:lol Asshurt

:lol if MJ played with Shaq, he would have at least 10 titles


Kobe Bryant ‏@kobebryant (https://twitter.com/kobebryant)17 May (https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/335485124219129856)
The comparisons are #apples2oranges (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23apples2oranges&src=hash) Wonder what the perception would be if M played wit @shaq (https://twitter.com/SHAQ) instead #differentroles (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23differentroles&src=hash) #differentcareerpaths (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23differentcareerpaths&src=hash)

He actually said that? :lol I love how on instagram for Throw Back Thursday he posted a pic of him and Phil Jackson. He's prolly gonna go back to the Kobe that hates Phil.

Tbh, while I laugh at Kobe for comparing himself to MJ, you must admit it would be annoying if Popovich released a book trying to 'expose' Tim Duncan or something. Phil should get on his knees and pleasure MJ, Kobe, and Shaq for hookin a nigga up.

[Thebesteva]

well according to Phil, MJ also had much better defense, leadership skills along with better shot selection.

but you probably know MJ and Kobe better than Phil.

i don't know what's worse, the shit you wrote above or the fact I read it.

Ultimately,

the difference between 24 and 23 is as Phil said and LG is in SEVERE denial about this right now. MJ would rarely force the issue, if the shots didn't fall in he'd find other openings and play harder defense or rebound more. For Kobe, if the shots don't fall in, well fuck it I'm gonna keep shooting and take my team out of rhythm.

It cracks me up that Laker fans are arguing over this now as if they know something more than the guy who groomed Kobe into a champion.

[JoeTait75]

MJ would rarely force the issue, if the shots didn't fall in he'd find other openings and play harder defense or rebound more.

MJ had 64 points and 1 assist in a game the Bulls lost and you're saying he didn't chuck it?

[Clipper Nation]

Don't insult Pippen by comparing Kirby to him, tbh....

[Thebesteva]

MJ had 64 points and 1 assist in a game the Bulls lost and you're saying he didn't chuck it?

Go drink some faygo faggot

[Brunodf]

:rollin

[bdubya]

The question is whether MJ would have hounded Shaq out of Chicago if they had played together.

The answer, of course, is FUCK NO. Anybody that could put up with a green-haired Rodman would have been just fine with Shaq.

[LkrFan]

well according to Phil, MJ also had much better defense, leadership skills along with better shot selection.

but you probably know MJ and Kobe better than Phil.

i don't know what's worse, the shit you wrote above or the fact I read it.
Read again numbnutz. I said "For me..." And WGAF that PJ went into more detail than I did about their differences? You act as if I disagreed with Phil. I mentioned Kobe's shot selection and clarified those thoughts.

My other notion that Kobe's individual comp > MJ's is also true. Am I wrong? If their roles were switched, MJ would have been 2nd fiddle to Shaq (and rightfully so I might add), he would have had to close quarters/games, he would have to feed Shaq constantly, while simultaneously being expected to give his squad 20-30ppg - just like Kobe had to.

And I stand by my opinion that Kobe would have dominated the same players that MJ did.

I'd like to see you:downspin: anything I wrote. I'll wait. :wakeup

[LkrFan]

I don't necessarily agree, tbh.
Me neither tbh. I think it is KAJ. But the media wants us to believe that so I went against my better judgment and ran with it.

GOAT argument aside, MJ > Kobe. I believe Kobe is entrenched in the top 10 though.

[LkrFan]

Ultimately,

the difference between 24 and 23 is as Phil said and LG is in SEVERE denial about this right now. MJ would rarely force the issue, if the shots didn't fall in he'd find other openings and play harder defense or rebound more. For Kobe, if the shots don't fall in, well fuck it I'm gonna keep shooting and take my team out of rhythm.

It cracks me up that Laker fans are arguing over this now as if they know something more than the guy who groomed Kobe into a champion.
Disagree with bolded. In his now infamous 6/24 game, he had 15 rebounds (equalling KG, PP and RA combined (http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300617013)), and he played great team defense in helping hold them bums to 79 points (players he guarded - PP/RA were a combined 8/29 which is on par with his 6/24 outing). But all we GAF about is Kobe. Even though his HOF counterparts shot just as bad. SMH

[Sean Cagney]

lol @ a couple of Kobe's fans reassuring him:

"you're still my favorite"

"I still think you're still the goat"

:rolleyes

Most annoying fans on the planet, Kobe FAN BOYS.

[HI-FI]

Read again numbnutz. I said "For me..." And WGAF that PJ went into more detail than I did about their differences? You act as if I disagreed with Phil. I mentioned Kobe's shot selection and clarified those thoughts.

My other notion that Kobe's individual comp > MJ's is also true. Am I wrong? If their roles were switched, MJ would have been 2nd fiddle to Shaq (and rightfully so I might add), he would have had to close quarters/games, he would have to feed Shaq constantly, while simultaneously being expected to give his squad 20-30ppg - just like Kobe had to.

And I stand by my opinion that Kobe would have dominated the same players that MJ did.

I'd like to see you:downspin: anything I wrote. I'll wait. :wakeup

Kobe wouldn't do very well in MJ's shoes, because he wouldn't have HOF bigs surrounding him to put back all the shit he bricks. Lakers under Kobe always spent like sailors in a whorehouse, whereas Reinsdorf was a cheapsake even during their dynasty years, so it's not like MJ had the best team money can buy like Rapist. Plus Kome's defense would be sporadic at best, saving his energy for....you guessed it....more ridiculous shots. MJ had some really good players in his era, not sure why you want to make this about competition. but :downspin: away at whatever you can to win your argument. truth is you shouldn't be comparing the two, yes I know deep down you want to say Kobe is better, and before Achilles (peace be upon it), you were probably holding out hope that he could get another ring so you could say they are even.

But now you can only fap to the Time Warner contract giving your team a chance. so:downspin: a little of this :elephant.

[Flintstones32]

I would have loved to have seen Kobe have to deal with all the hand checking that MJ had to deal with as well as no defensive 3 seconds.

If MJ played today with the current rules he would average 20 FT's a game, and over 45 ppg.

Today's players are a bunch of cry baby whiners who wouldn't know a real foul even if Bill Laimbeer came out of retirement and knocked them on their ass.

[Monkeyboy14]

This site is so fucking racist :lmao Its like the thoughts you randomly get in your head sometimes that you dont mean, you are just like "woah.. what the hell is wrong with me" haha

[callo1]

Jordan won a championship with Luke Longely, Will Perdue, and Bill Wennington. Longely as starting center of the second three-peat. LUKE LONGELY!!!

Kobe needed Shaq to win, and when Shaq was gone, he had to have Pau.

The rules in the Kobe era are more friendly to peremiter players than they were during the Jordan era.

Kobe failed to get his team to the playoffs in 2005.

I'm done.

[LkrFan]

Jordan won a championship with Luke Longely, Will Perdue, and Bill Wennington. Longely as starting center of the second three-peat. LUKE LONGELY!!!

Kobe needed Shaq to win, and when Shaq was gone, he had to have Pau.

The rules in the Kobe era are more friendly to peremiter players than they were during the Jordan era.

Kobe failed to get his team to the playoffs in 2005.

I'm done.
You forgot Cartwright. :lol

Lets explore how MJ's teams beat teams lead by all star or HOF bigs, shall we? 18-24 strategic fouls to use on the likes of HOF bigs like Shaq or Ewing. Then MJ/Pip dominated the perimeter players. MJ/Pip were good for 50+ppg/night. they Had good role players who defended and lights out 3pt shooting (Paxon or Kerr). very balanced team that could lock you down and score at will. That's why MJ never needed 20/10 center. But it started with perimeter D. Most offenses back then were dominated by PG play. Mark Jackson (Knicks or when he played for Indiana), Mark Price (Cleveland), Zeke Thomas (Pistons), Magic (post Showtime). MJ/Pip either outplayed or flat out dominated their perimeter counterparts...and their bigs had just enough fouls to go around to keep players like Shaq in (relative) check.

Not making a case for Kobe. He just so happen to win with scoring bigs. They just won differently.

And stop with the 2005 nonsense. We tanked to get Bynum just like Robinson feigned an injury so you guys could get TD. I'm glad though. He should have been a Celtic.

[Baseline]

:lol Asshurt

:lol if MJ played with Shaq, he would have at least 10 titles


Kobe Bryant ‏@kobebryant (https://twitter.com/kobebryant)17 May (https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/335485124219129856)
The comparisons are #apples2oranges (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23apples2oranges&src=hash) Wonder what the perception would be if M played wit @shaq (https://twitter.com/SHAQ) instead #differentroles (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23differentroles&src=hash) #differentcareerpaths (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23differentcareerpaths&src=hash)

If Bryant hadn't played with Shaq when he was a punk kid, he'd only have two rings at this point, not five.

Fact: Jordan has 6 Finals MVPs. Bryant has two, and one of those was a total joke (6-24 in Game 7).

[callo1]

And stop with the 2005 nonsense. We tanked to get Bynum just like Robinson feigned an injury so you guys could get TD. I'm glad though. He should have been a Celtic.

Why would a team with a GOAT ever tank to begin with?

[LkrFan]

Why would a team with a GOAT ever tank to begin with?
Who called him GOAT?

[Legacy]

No I don't. He's the most overrated athlete of my lifetime.

:wow HUH?? Not... sure... if... serious, tbh... :wow

[lefty]

No I don't. He's the most overrated athlete of my lifetime.
yup

Glorified healthier T-Mac
or a Scottie Pippen who takes more shots, minus the defense

[Legacy]

Well, of course I agree with the remark as well... but this is Laker fan not showing Kobe any love?! Unheard of!! :wow

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This site is so fucking racist :lmao Its like the thoughts you randomly get in your head sometimes that you dont mean, you are just like "woah.. what the hell is wrong with me" haha

It's a lightly moderated Texas based board. It is what it is.

[lefty]

Well, of course I agree with the remark as well... but this is Laker fan not showing Kobe any love?! Unheard of!! :wow
so what?

I'm Spurs fan, and that's because of the Admiral

But man, after a few years I realized Robinson was a soft faggot

[Legacy]

Well major props to Charlie, tbh. :lol

[FkLA]

I love how Kobe acts like landing on the Lakers actually hindered his career. When in reality landing in the second winningest (and most consistent) franchise actually was a huge boost to his career because the title teams hes been on are literally the only reason hes considered Top 10 all-time and yet he still didnt match MJ. Can you imagine if he ended up in Charlotte, hed be nowhere near 5 titles much less 6. :lol

[DMC]

Well, of course I agree with the remark as well... but this is Laker fan not showing Kobe any love?! Unheard of!! :wow

Look, I know you claim to be female but recognize a random troll for what it is. Many troll accounts don't pick their actual favorite teams else it's a dead giveaway, plus some of them want to troll the other teams' fan base.

[Legacy]

:lol Troll has always been recognized, tbh... but thanks for the advice, DMC. :tu