Syria devolving into proxy war

[RandomGuy]

You may not be aware, but Hezbollah, Iran's proxy in Lebanon, is now throwing in with Assad, likely more than encouraged by the ayatollahs in Tehran.

Gegenseits, we have Sunni powers beginning to back the rebels, and oh by the way, Israel is sifting around somwhere as well.

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By Khaled Yacoub Oweis and Dominic Evans

AMMAN/BEIRUT (Reuters) - About 30 Lebanese Hezbollah fighters and 20 Syrian soldiers and militiamen loyal to President Bashar al-Assad have been killed in the fiercest fighting this year in the rebel stronghold of Qusair, Syrian activists said on Monday.

Sunday's reported death toll was the highest for Hezbollah in a single day's conflict in Syria, highlighting the increasing intervention by the guerrilla group originally set up by Iran in the 1980s to fight Israeli occupation troops in south Lebanon.

If confirmed, the Hezbollah losses also reflect the extent to which Syria is becoming a proxy conflict between Shi'ite Iran and Gulf Arab states such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar, which back Assad's mostly Sunni enemies.

Western countries and Russia, an ally of Damascus, back opposing sides in this regional free-for-all which is also sucking in Israel. Three times this year Israeli planes have bombed presumed Iranian weapons destined for Hezbollah.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his country was "preparing for every scenario" in Syria and held out the prospect of more Israeli strikes on Syria to stop Hezbollah and other opponents of Israel obtaining advanced weapons.

Israel has not confirmed or denied reports by Western and Israeli intelligence sources that its raids targeted Iranian missiles stored near Damascus that it believed were awaiting delivery to Hezbollah, which fought a war with Israel in 2006.

FOG OF WAR

Syrian opposition sources and state media gave widely differing accounts of Sunday's ferocious clashes in Qusair, long used by rebels as a supply route from the nearby Lebanese border to the provincial capital Homs.

Hezbollah has not commented but in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley on Monday several funeral processions could be seen. Pictures of dead fighters were plastered on to cars and mourners waved yellow Hezbollah flags.

Several ambulances were seen on the main Bekaa Valley highway and residents said hospitals had appealed for blood to treat the wounded brought back to Lebanon.

The air and tank assault on the strategic town of 30,000 people appeared to be part of a campaign by Assad's forces to consolidate their grip on Damascus and secure links between the capital and government strongholds in the Alawite coastal heartland via the contested central city of Homs.

The government campaign has coincided with efforts by the United States and Russia, despite their differences on Syria, to organize peace talks to end a conflict now in its third year in which more than 80,000 people have been killed.

A total of 100 combatants from both sides were killed in Sunday's offensive, according to opposition sources, including the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Troops have already retaken several villages around Qusair and have attacked increasingly isolated rebel units in Homs.

"If Qusair falls, God forbid, the opposition in Homs city will be in grave danger," said an activist who called himself Abu Jaafar al-Mugharbil.

State news agency SANA said the army had "restored security and stability to most Qusair neighborhoods" and was "chasing the remnants of the terrorists in the northern district".

Syrian television also showed footage of what it said was an Israeli military Jeep which it said the rebels had been using and which showed the extent of their foreign backing. An Israeli military spokeswoman said the vehicle was decommissioned a decade ago and dismissed the footage as "poor propaganda".

Opposition activists said rebels in Qusair, about 10 km (six miles) from the Lebanese border, had pushed back most of the attacking forces to their original positions in the east of the town and to the south on Sunday, destroying at least four Syrian army tanks and five light Hezbollah vehicles.

The Western-backed leadership of the Free Syrian Army, the loose umbrella group trying to oversee hundreds of disparate rebel brigades, said the Qusair fighters had thwarted Hezbollah with military operations it dubbed "Walls of Death".

Syrian government restrictions on access for independent media make it hard to verify such videos and accounts.

"NO DIALOGUE WITH TERRORISTS"

The fighting raged as Western nations are seeking to step up pressure on Assad - Britain and France want the European Union to allow arms deliveries to rebels - while preparing for the peace talks brokered by Russia and the United States next month.

British Foreign Secretary William Hague said "no option is off the table" over the possible arming of rebels if the Syrian government does not negotiate seriously at the proposed talks.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, whose country has shielded Syria from U.N. Security Council action, said Syrian opposition representatives must take part without precondition, apparently referring to their demands for Assad's exit before they come to the table.

Assad has scorned the idea that the conference expected to convene in Geneva could end a war that is fuelling instability and deepening Sunni-Shi'ite rifts across the Middle East.

"They think a political conference will halt terrorists in the country. That is unrealistic," he told the Argentine newspaper Clarin, in a reference to Syria's mainly Sunni rebels.

Assad ruled out "dialogue with terrorists", but it was not clear from his remarks whether he would agree to send delegates to a conference that may in any case falter before it starts due to disagreements between its two main sponsors and their allies.

The fractured Syrian opposition is to discuss the proposed peace conference at a meeting due to start in Istanbul on Thursday, during which it will also appoint a new leadership.

Attacks by troops and militias loyal to Assad, who inherited power in Syria from his father in 2000, have put rebels under pressure in several of their strongholds in recent weeks.

Assad, from Syria's minority Alawite sect, has been battling an uprising which began with peaceful protests in March 2011. His violent response eventually prompted rebels to take up arms.

Hezbollah has supported Assad throughout the crisis but for months denied reports it was fighting alongside Assad's troops.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights put the Hezbollah casualties on Sunday at 28 dead and more than 70 wounded, while 48 rebel fighters and four civilians were also killed.

Tareq Murei, an activist in Qusair, said six more people were killed on Monday as Syrian army artillery and Hezbollah rocket launchers bombarded rebel-held parts of the town.

Video footage purportedly showed a Syrian tank on fire at a street corner in the town. In another video a warplane was shown flying over the town amid the sound of explosions.

Lebanese security sources said at least 12 Hezbollah fighters were killed in Qusair on Sunday. Seven were to be buried in the Lebanese town of Baalbek and nearby villages on Monday, they said.

(Additional reporting by Erika Solomon in Hermel and Dan Williams in Jerusalem; Writing by Dominic Evans,; Editing by Samia Nakhoul, Alistair Lyon and Giles Elgood)
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The Chinese century cannot come fast enough for me. Their army is certainly big enough to keep the peace in the middle east, c'est va?

[Nbadan]

it's been a proxy war since the beginning....and its between Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, and Saudi Arabia, the US and Al Queda...

[Spurs da champs]

it's been a proxy war since the beginning....and its between Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, and Saudi Arabia, the US and Al Queda...

Yes & based off the airstrikes by Israel on Syria, you better include Israel on that list with the Al-Quaeda.

Hopefully Assad wins the war to stop those extremists from taking over.

[TDMVPDPOY]

israel has no business getting involve in this war when syria hasnt dont shit to them yet

if they are going after hezbolah, why not bomb lebanon or where these clowns are, instead they are just using every excuse to be the police in the region to bomb anything

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lumping all Sunni militants together as AQ isn't very accurate. It's sunni vs shiite sure but not all salafi are associated with yemeni types.

And Israel has an obvious interest in Syrias outcome. A civil war on their border is very much a concern and Syria has been the conduit Iran has been using to get arms to both palestine and lebanon. If you have a sunni syria then Iran is severely hampered in their regional influence.

[George Gervin's Afro]

You may not be aware, but Hezbollah, Iran's proxy in Lebanon, is now throwing in with Assad, likely more than encouraged by the ayatollahs in Tehran.

Gegenseits, we have Sunni powers beginning to back the rebels, and oh by the way, Israel is sifting around somwhere as well.

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By Khaled Yacoub Oweis and Dominic Evans

AMMAN/BEIRUT (Reuters) - About 30 Lebanese Hezbollah fighters and 20 Syrian soldiers and militiamen loyal to President Bashar al-Assad have been killed in the fiercest fighting this year in the rebel stronghold of Qusair, Syrian activists said on Monday.

Sunday's reported death toll was the highest for Hezbollah in a single day's conflict in Syria, highlighting the increasing intervention by the guerrilla group originally set up by Iran in the 1980s to fight Israeli occupation troops in south Lebanon.

If confirmed, the Hezbollah losses also reflect the extent to which Syria is becoming a proxy conflict between Shi'ite Iran and Gulf Arab states such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar, which back Assad's mostly Sunni enemies.

Western countries and Russia, an ally of Damascus, back opposing sides in this regional free-for-all which is also sucking in Israel. Three times this year Israeli planes have bombed presumed Iranian weapons destined for Hezbollah.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his country was "preparing for every scenario" in Syria and held out the prospect of more Israeli strikes on Syria to stop Hezbollah and other opponents of Israel obtaining advanced weapons.

Israel has not confirmed or denied reports by Western and Israeli intelligence sources that its raids targeted Iranian missiles stored near Damascus that it believed were awaiting delivery to Hezbollah, which fought a war with Israel in 2006.

FOG OF WAR

Syrian opposition sources and state media gave widely differing accounts of Sunday's ferocious clashes in Qusair, long used by rebels as a supply route from the nearby Lebanese border to the provincial capital Homs.

Hezbollah has not commented but in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley on Monday several funeral processions could be seen. Pictures of dead fighters were plastered on to cars and mourners waved yellow Hezbollah flags.

Several ambulances were seen on the main Bekaa Valley highway and residents said hospitals had appealed for blood to treat the wounded brought back to Lebanon.

The air and tank assault on the strategic town of 30,000 people appeared to be part of a campaign by Assad's forces to consolidate their grip on Damascus and secure links between the capital and government strongholds in the Alawite coastal heartland via the contested central city of Homs.

The government campaign has coincided with efforts by the United States and Russia, despite their differences on Syria, to organize peace talks to end a conflict now in its third year in which more than 80,000 people have been killed.

A total of 100 combatants from both sides were killed in Sunday's offensive, according to opposition sources, including the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Troops have already retaken several villages around Qusair and have attacked increasingly isolated rebel units in Homs.

"If Qusair falls, God forbid, the opposition in Homs city will be in grave danger," said an activist who called himself Abu Jaafar al-Mugharbil.

State news agency SANA said the army had "restored security and stability to most Qusair neighborhoods" and was "chasing the remnants of the terrorists in the northern district".

Syrian television also showed footage of what it said was an Israeli military Jeep which it said the rebels had been using and which showed the extent of their foreign backing. An Israeli military spokeswoman said the vehicle was decommissioned a decade ago and dismissed the footage as "poor propaganda".

Opposition activists said rebels in Qusair, about 10 km (six miles) from the Lebanese border, had pushed back most of the attacking forces to their original positions in the east of the town and to the south on Sunday, destroying at least four Syrian army tanks and five light Hezbollah vehicles.

The Western-backed leadership of the Free Syrian Army, the loose umbrella group trying to oversee hundreds of disparate rebel brigades, said the Qusair fighters had thwarted Hezbollah with military operations it dubbed "Walls of Death".

Syrian government restrictions on access for independent media make it hard to verify such videos and accounts.

"NO DIALOGUE WITH TERRORISTS"

The fighting raged as Western nations are seeking to step up pressure on Assad - Britain and France want the European Union to allow arms deliveries to rebels - while preparing for the peace talks brokered by Russia and the United States next month.

British Foreign Secretary William Hague said "no option is off the table" over the possible arming of rebels if the Syrian government does not negotiate seriously at the proposed talks.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, whose country has shielded Syria from U.N. Security Council action, said Syrian opposition representatives must take part without precondition, apparently referring to their demands for Assad's exit before they come to the table.

Assad has scorned the idea that the conference expected to convene in Geneva could end a war that is fuelling instability and deepening Sunni-Shi'ite rifts across the Middle East.

"They think a political conference will halt terrorists in the country. That is unrealistic," he told the Argentine newspaper Clarin, in a reference to Syria's mainly Sunni rebels.

Assad ruled out "dialogue with terrorists", but it was not clear from his remarks whether he would agree to send delegates to a conference that may in any case falter before it starts due to disagreements between its two main sponsors and their allies.

The fractured Syrian opposition is to discuss the proposed peace conference at a meeting due to start in Istanbul on Thursday, during which it will also appoint a new leadership.

Attacks by troops and militias loyal to Assad, who inherited power in Syria from his father in 2000, have put rebels under pressure in several of their strongholds in recent weeks.

Assad, from Syria's minority Alawite sect, has been battling an uprising which began with peaceful protests in March 2011. His violent response eventually prompted rebels to take up arms.

Hezbollah has supported Assad throughout the crisis but for months denied reports it was fighting alongside Assad's troops.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights put the Hezbollah casualties on Sunday at 28 dead and more than 70 wounded, while 48 rebel fighters and four civilians were also killed.

Tareq Murei, an activist in Qusair, said six more people were killed on Monday as Syrian army artillery and Hezbollah rocket launchers bombarded rebel-held parts of the town.

Video footage purportedly showed a Syrian tank on fire at a street corner in the town. In another video a warplane was shown flying over the town amid the sound of explosions.

Lebanese security sources said at least 12 Hezbollah fighters were killed in Qusair on Sunday. Seven were to be buried in the Lebanese town of Baalbek and nearby villages on Monday, they said.

(Additional reporting by Erika Solomon in Hermel and Dan Williams in Jerusalem; Writing by Dominic Evans,; Editing by Samia Nakhoul, Alistair Lyon and Giles Elgood)
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The Chinese century cannot come fast enough for me. Their army is certainly big enough to keep the peace in the middle east, c'est va?


Why isn't Obama sending in the troops.. he's leading from behind...

[RandomGuy]

Yes & based off the airstrikes by Israel on Syria, you better include Israel on that list with the Al-Quaeda.

Hopefully Assad wins the war to stop those extremists from taking over.

Assad will go. It is simply a matter of time, now. Too many forces have aligned against him now, and the use of chemical weapons means that it will be impossible for any goverment to accept him.

Hell, even th Russians are starting to backpedal a bit.

[RandomGuy]

israel has no business getting involve in this war when syria hasnt dont shit to them yet

if they are going after hezbolah, why not bomb lebanon or where these clowns are, instead they are just using every excuse to be the police in the region to bomb anything

Syria = Iran proxy.

Israel can't operate freely in Lebanon without triggering more bullshit, but within the borders of Syria, they have more room to hit targets.

[RandomGuy]

Lumping all Sunni militants together as AQ isn't very accurate. It's sunni vs shiite sure but not all salafi are associated with yemeni types.

And Israel has an obvious interest in Syrias outcome. A civil war on their border is very much a concern and Syria has been the conduit Iran has been using to get arms to both palestine and lebanon. If you have a sunni syria then Iran is severely hampered in their regional influence.

Bingo.

[Spurs da champs]

Assad will go. It is simply a matter of time, now. Too many forces have aligned against him now, and the use of chemical weapons means that it will be impossible for any goverment to accept him.

Hell, even th Russians are starting to backpedal a bit.
McCain admitted Assad was winning, & by the Russians backpedaling you mean sending advanced warship killers?

[RandomGuy]

McCain admitted Assad was winning, & by the Russians backpedaling you mean sending advanced warship killers?

There is that, as well as the air defense stuff.

I mean distancing them selves publicly. I think they are hedging their bets.

At the moment pro-assad forces are winning, bolstered by hezbollah, and new alowite militias, but demography is against them. I think the Israelis will start doign the dirty work of arming the rebels, if they aren't already, now that Hezbollah is jumping in.

"winning" is not going to be clear until the dust settles. Too fluid a situation.

[Spurs da champs]

What Russia says publicly is really just pandering to the West, as their actions indicate otherwise. And Israel as well as the U.S's hypocrisy on this issue is just astounding, they're supporting rebel groups that include extremists who eat the hearts of their adversaries & do these suicide bombings, obviously terrorists. I don't see how arming these rebels who include extremists, is in Israel's so called best interests?

And you're right, it is too fluid a situation to tell who would win, but would Israel rather have a potential extremist Govt in Syria just to suffocate an Iran who has never attacked or invaded another country unprovoked or an Assad govt who has never even responded to the airstrikes done by Israel over the years?

This makes little sense on Israel's part.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

McCain admitted Assad was winning, & by the Russians backpedaling you mean sending advanced warship killers?

The Sunni states and political parties got spooked when the rebels started taking over the coastal cities. They have now begun to intervene directly whereas before they were at least publicly 'waiting on the sidelines.' Now that they have intervened the coast is being more hotly contested but just a couple months ago Assad was losing key military bases and the coast.

This is a very good opportunity for Israel to garner goodwill to a neighboring state by assisting in the resistance movement. They can help pick the winner so to speak or at least insure preferred factions have influence in a post Assad state.

RG is straight up right. In Syria, the Alawite and Shiites are a significant minority. 75% of the population is Sunni and the minority has only been able to prop itself up by superior funding and arms. The Syrian army over the last 2 years has been decimated by defections, loss of resources and straight up attrition. It's hard to win a war of attrition when you are outnumbered 3 to 1.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What Russia says publicly is really just pandering to the West, as their actions indicate otherwise. And Israel as well as the U.S's hypocrisy on this issue is just astounding, they're supporting rebel groups that include extremists who eat the hearts of their adversaries & do these suicide bombings, obviously terrorists. I don't see how arming these rebels who include extremists, is in Israel's so called best interests?

And you're right, it is too fluid a situation to tell who would win, but would Israel rather have a potential extremist Govt in Syria just to suffocate an Iran who has never attacked or invaded another country unprovoked or an Assad govt who has never even responded to the airstrikes done by Israel over the years?

This makes little sense on Israel's part.

Iran has been arming Hezbollah in Palestine for 30 years. Syria along with Egypt was the state that they bombed the hell out of in the preemptive strike in the 1970s. Iran has declared jihad on the Israelis and has an open policy of hostility towards Israel.

Syria is Iran's lynchpin. To the south you have the Sauds which do not like the the shiite theocracy. To the Southwest you have Iraq who has a historical enmity to Iran. To the East you have the Afghans with our puppet government and Pakistan which is run by a secular military government for all its democratic trappings. To the north you have Russia who influences Iran and not the other way around. You take away Syria and you isolate Iran from regional influence overall.

Without Syria, they cannot move ordinance and supplies to Lebanon and Palestine easily. That gets them off of Israel's ass and off the Mediterranean. It also means for all intents and purposes the beginning of the end to Hezbollah.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

THE VERY SAME JEWS who brought us the lie (http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/9226/) of Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction (http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/9226/) are at it again trying to stir up a US war against Syria. In its recent “Israel Has Proof That Syria Used Chemical Weapons” (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/24/world/middleeast/israel-says-syria-has-used-chemical-weapons.html?nl=afternoonupdate&emc=edit_au_20130423&_r=0) written by Jews David Sanger (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/david_e_sanger/index.html) and Jodi Rudoren (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/jodi_rudoren/index.html), the NY Times is pushing once again to send countless Gentile American soldiers to their deaths and back home in body bags.
(Jews don’t send their own to die in their wars. ‘Let the Goyim bleed for us!’)
The Jew-owned (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=493) Washington Post didn’t waste a moment of time to chime in with “Honoring A ‘Red Line’ in Syria Over Chemical Weapons (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/honoring-a-red-line-in-syria-over-chemical-weapons/2013/04/23/ce30c978-ac42-11e2-a8b9-2a63d75b5459_story.html).”
The Post (and all the neocon Jews (http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/content/fpi-and-additional-resources-syria) at Foreign Policy Initiative) contends (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/honoring-a-red-line-in-syria-over-chemical-weapons/2013/04/23/ce30c978-ac42-11e2-a8b9-2a63d75b5459_story.html) that since Israel (and its puppet states Britain and France) “concludes” that Assad has “very likely” used chemical weapons, then this crosses the “red line” drawn by Obama warranting a US military intervention.

Can anyone tell me how a “very likely” scenario concludes that Assad is definitely using chemical weapons?
This is Jewish DOUBLE-SPEAK right in your face.
But now Russia’s foreign minister Sergei Lavrov is challenging the war-mongering line touted by blood-thirsty, scare-mongering Jews.
Lavrov is calling (http://rbth.asia/news/2013/04/24/lavrov_urges_caution_over_syria_chemical_weapons_r eports_46367.html) for an “on-site investigation” which he claims Assad will comply with.
The Russian minister described (http://rbth.asia/news/2013/04/24/lavrov_urges_caution_over_syria_chemical_weapons_r eports_46367.html) the delays in sending a UN mission to investigate the reports as an attempt to “politicize the issue” and force the “Iraqi scenario” on Syria.
But all that matters to Jews is what’s good for their genocidal state of Israel. And to hell with the money and lost Gentile lives it will cost our Jew-ruined country.

ADDED TO THE LIST of profound disappointments is Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel…once hailed (http://mondoweiss.net/2013/01/lobbys-unending-battle.html) as an opponent of the Jewish Lobby.
Hagel has since sold his soul to the Jews. He’s just another sucker for the Jews, poor sap.
For with Hagel groveling (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/04/21/iran-israel-hagel-us/2100641/) in Israel last week stuttering out (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/04/21/iran-israel-hagel-us/2100641/), “Iran is a threat, a real threat,” followed (http://news.yahoo.com/hagel-says-syria-used-chemical-weapons-155008837--politics.html) by, “with some degree of varying confidence, US intelligence concludes that Syria has used sarin gas as a weapon,” the new Pentagon chief can be added to the list of Jewish arse-kissers.
Again, it’s Jewish DOUBLE SPEAK in your face.
Can anyone tell me how “some degree” of “varying confidence” indicates that Syria has definitely been using chemical weapons? Surely we’re all being played as morons by the Jewish headline-crafters and their shills on Capitol Hill.
Sweetening the bitter Jewish pie of endless warmongering, Hagel promised (http://www.timesofisrael.com/reversing-policy-us-will-sell-israel-aerial-refueling-planes/) the anti-Christ Jews whose feet he licks a massive new and unprecedented arms deal.

Hagel committed (http://www.timesofisrael.com/reversing-policy-us-will-sell-israel-aerial-refueling-planes/)to “selling” (Read: “subsidized” by US taxpayers) KC-135 refueling planes that would prove vital to any Israel strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities.
“This is a game changer,” boasts (http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/changing-the-iran-game/) the Times of Israel. “Up until now Israel could not launch an attack against Iran on its own. That’s no longer the case once the tankers arrive.”
And with Jewry’s new errand boy Chuck Hagel who also proclaimed (http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/04/22/hagel-israel-has-unilateral-right-to-strike-iran.html) that “Israel has a right to attack Iran,” the Jews now have a free pass to create another hell on earth.
Just yesterday, the Iranian Defense Minister announced (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/04/24/300035/attacking-iran-will-be-israel-last-mistake/) that striking Iran will be Israel’s “last mistake,” echoed (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/04/14/298169/attack-on-iran-may-spark-wwiii-envoy/) by Iran’s envoy to France that an attack will “lead” to WW3.
And both (http://news.antiwar.com/2011/11/07/russia-china-warn-us-against-attacking-iran/) China and Russia have also warned (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/01/russia-should-anything-happen-to-iran-this-will-be-a-direct-threat-to-our-national-security.html) that they will protect their interests (Russia will never (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=765) relinquish their naval port in Syria’s Tartus) in the Middle East.
Surely, a brand new global war will be good for the Jews but VERY BAD for everyone else.

http://www.resist.com/CARTOON%20GALLERY/KIKES/jews_image08.jpg

[TDMVPDPOY]

Iran has been arming Hezbollah in Palestine for 30 years. Syria along with Egypt was the state that they bombed the hell out of in the preemptive strike in the 1970s. Iran has declared jihad on the Israelis and has an open policy of hostility towards Israel.

Syria is Iran's lynchpin. To the south you have the Sauds which do not like the the shiite theocracy. To the Southwest you have Iraq who has a historical enmity to Iran. To the East you have the Afghans with our puppet government and Pakistan which is run by a secular military government for all its democratic trappings. To the north you have Russia who influences Iran and not the other way around. You take away Syria and you isolate Iran from regional influence overall.

Without Syria, they cannot move ordinance and supplies to Lebanon and Palestine easily. That gets them off of Israel's ass and off the Mediterranean. It also means for all intents and purposes the beginning of the end to Hezbollah.

arabs arming themselves, i see nothing wrong with that when the other clown has a nuke

[FuzzyLumpkins]

arabs arming themselves, i see nothing wrong with that when the other clown has a nuke

But it's not just arab vs arab. Persians are not Arabs and the muslim schism has more to do with this than anything. The Sunnis control Arabia and are the majority around Israel. Once you start getting east of the euphrates the ethnicity and sect changes to more persian etc and shiite.

For good or ill, the Saudis, Turkey, and Israel are our allies. We have strong, historical ties to Egypt. IOW, most of the Sunni majority states. Despite the presence of salafi sunni militant types, many are foreign and regardless, a Sunni nation is more likely to align with the other neighboring sunni states ie our allies and countries that are tolerant of israel and not vehemently anti west like Jordan.

More importantly you cut Hezbollah off from palestine and if their influence dies, the political division and militant wing of palestine fades away. That has been the crux of the hawks in Israels refusal to back talks with palestinian leadership. It'll curb that iranian made rockets being shot into tel aviv if nothing else.

[Rick Santorum]

THE VERY SAME JEWS who brought us the lie (http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/9226/) of Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction (http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/9226/) are at it again trying to stir up a US war against Syria. In its recent “Israel Has Proof That Syria Used Chemical Weapons” (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/24/world/middleeast/israel-says-syria-has-used-chemical-weapons.html?nl=afternoonupdate&emc=edit_au_20130423&_r=0) written by Jews David Sanger (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/david_e_sanger/index.html) and Jodi Rudoren (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/jodi_rudoren/index.html), the NY Times is pushing once again to send countless Gentile American soldiers to their deaths and back home in body bags.
(Jews don’t send their own to die in their wars. ‘Let the Goyim bleed for us!’)
The Jew-owned (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=493) Washington Post didn’t waste a moment of time to chime in with “Honoring A ‘Red Line’ in Syria Over Chemical Weapons (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/honoring-a-red-line-in-syria-over-chemical-weapons/2013/04/23/ce30c978-ac42-11e2-a8b9-2a63d75b5459_story.html).”
The Post (and all the neocon Jews (http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/content/fpi-and-additional-resources-syria) at Foreign Policy Initiative) contends (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/honoring-a-red-line-in-syria-over-chemical-weapons/2013/04/23/ce30c978-ac42-11e2-a8b9-2a63d75b5459_story.html) that since Israel (and its puppet states Britain and France) “concludes” that Assad has “very likely” used chemical weapons, then this crosses the “red line” drawn by Obama warranting a US military intervention.

Can anyone tell me how a “very likely” scenario concludes that Assad is definitely using chemical weapons?
This is Jewish DOUBLE-SPEAK right in your face.
But now Russia’s foreign minister Sergei Lavrov is challenging the war-mongering line touted by blood-thirsty, scare-mongering Jews.
Lavrov is calling (http://rbth.asia/news/2013/04/24/lavrov_urges_caution_over_syria_chemical_weapons_r eports_46367.html) for an “on-site investigation” which he claims Assad will comply with.
The Russian minister described (http://rbth.asia/news/2013/04/24/lavrov_urges_caution_over_syria_chemical_weapons_r eports_46367.html) the delays in sending a UN mission to investigate the reports as an attempt to “politicize the issue” and force the “Iraqi scenario” on Syria.
But all that matters to Jews is what’s good for their genocidal state of Israel. And to hell with the money and lost Gentile lives it will cost our Jew-ruined country.

ADDED TO THE LIST of profound disappointments is Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel…once hailed (http://mondoweiss.net/2013/01/lobbys-unending-battle.html) as an opponent of the Jewish Lobby.
Hagel has since sold his soul to the Jews. He’s just another sucker for the Jews, poor sap.
For with Hagel groveling (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/04/21/iran-israel-hagel-us/2100641/) in Israel last week stuttering out (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/04/21/iran-israel-hagel-us/2100641/), “Iran is a threat, a real threat,” followed (http://news.yahoo.com/hagel-says-syria-used-chemical-weapons-155008837--politics.html) by, “with some degree of varying confidence, US intelligence concludes that Syria has used sarin gas as a weapon,” the new Pentagon chief can be added to the list of Jewish arse-kissers.
Again, it’s Jewish DOUBLE SPEAK in your face.
Can anyone tell me how “some degree” of “varying confidence” indicates that Syria has definitely been using chemical weapons? Surely we’re all being played as morons by the Jewish headline-crafters and their shills on Capitol Hill.
Sweetening the bitter Jewish pie of endless warmongering, Hagel promised (http://www.timesofisrael.com/reversing-policy-us-will-sell-israel-aerial-refueling-planes/) the anti-Christ Jews whose feet he licks a massive new and unprecedented arms deal.

Hagel committed (http://www.timesofisrael.com/reversing-policy-us-will-sell-israel-aerial-refueling-planes/)to “selling” (Read: “subsidized” by US taxpayers) KC-135 refueling planes that would prove vital to any Israel strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities.
“This is a game changer,” boasts (http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/changing-the-iran-game/) the Times of Israel. “Up until now Israel could not launch an attack against Iran on its own. That’s no longer the case once the tankers arrive.”
And with Jewry’s new errand boy Chuck Hagel who also proclaimed (http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/04/22/hagel-israel-has-unilateral-right-to-strike-iran.html) that “Israel has a right to attack Iran,” the Jews now have a free pass to create another hell on earth.
Just yesterday, the Iranian Defense Minister announced (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/04/24/300035/attacking-iran-will-be-israel-last-mistake/) that striking Iran will be Israel’s “last mistake,” echoed (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/04/14/298169/attack-on-iran-may-spark-wwiii-envoy/) by Iran’s envoy to France that an attack will “lead” to WW3.
And both (http://news.antiwar.com/2011/11/07/russia-china-warn-us-against-attacking-iran/) China and Russia have also warned (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/01/russia-should-anything-happen-to-iran-this-will-be-a-direct-threat-to-our-national-security.html) that they will protect their interests (Russia will never (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=765) relinquish their naval port in Syria’s Tartus) in the Middle East.
Surely, a brand new global war will be good for the Jews but VERY BAD for everyone else.

http://www.resist.com/CARTOON%20GALLERY/KIKES/jews_image08.jpg



Dirk oneanddoneski just dropping the truthbombs about zionists he's supposed to drop. No surprises here.

[Winehole23]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/27/us-usa-syria-rebels-idUSBREA0Q1S320140127?irpc=932

[boutons_deux]

The wonderful strategy of dickhead/PNAC/neocons invading Iraq-for-oil was to cause democracy to spread throughout the M/E.

Well, even if the Reugs totally destabilized the M/E for decades of permanent turmoil, at least Americans and UK got SOME oil.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So we are giving guns to the arab league army?

[Nbadan]

http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20140127&t=2&i=833167330&w=580&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=CBREA0Q1QQP00
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/27/us-usa-syria-rebels-idUSBREA0Q1S320140127?irpc=932

Damn....

[byrontx]

Nope. It was China. The massive incompetence of the Bush administration will haunt this country for well over a generation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/03/world/middleeast/china-reaps-biggest-benefits-of-iraq-oil-boom.html?_r=0



The wonderful strategy of dickhead/PNAC/neocons invading Iraq-for-oil was to cause democracy to spread throughout the M/E.

Well, even if the Reugs totally destabilized the M/E for decades of permanent turmoil, at least Americans and UK got SOME oil.

[Wild Cobra]

LOL...

Blame everyone but the current administration.

LOL...

[TDMVPDPOY]

was listening to late night radio, hearing how alqaeda are turning on militant groups and shit, seems like multiple groups are not on the same page, every man for themselves

[boutons_deux]

LOL...

Blame everyone but the current administration.

LOL...

What would WC have done in Syria if, nightmare, WC was the Unitary Executive in the WH? And how did Obama mishandle the Syrian shitstorm?

He certainly didn't deserve ANY blame for causing it. That goes to dubya/dickhead/necons/BigOil for destabilizing the M/E by invading Iraq for oil.

[Wild Cobra]

What would WC have done in Syria if, nightmare, WC was the Unitary Executive in the WH? And how did Obama mishandle the Syrian shitstorm?

He certainly didn't deserve ANY blame for causing it. That goes to dubya/dickhead/necons/BigOil for destabilizing the M/E by invading Iraq for oil.
I wouldn't be arming the rebels just to remove Assad.