Simmons blasts Spurs fans...

[da_suns_fan]

Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 4m
San Antonio fans are funny - if you don't pick their Spurs to win a series, they honestly believe this means you HATE the Spurs.

Theyre easily the most insecure. Probably because the know all that "boring" stuff is actually true.

[capek]

Just another talking head moron trying to spin the fact that he's shit with predictions. Doesn't like getting called out for sucking at his job :cry

[jimbo]

it's true, most insecure fanbase in sports (that I can think of)

:cry stern out to get us :cry

:rolleyes still got 4 rings under his reign and won Tim Duncan vs a much more storied franchise

[Clipper Nation]

Simmons is a faggot... if people don't pick his Celtics to win, he melts down and writes a whiny, homeriffic column about it....

[midnightpulp]

Don't get the Simmons hate from Spursfans, honestly. He was one of the few "journalists" back in the day to really gush over Duncan. When the KG vs. Duncan debate was raging in the mid-00s, he was the only talking head I can remember who trumpeted Duncan's superiority, using none of the "supporting cast" excuses that KG fans often resorted to.

So what he didn't pick the Spurs.? They didn't look as strong as Memphis going into this series. He had good reason.

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[davidbowie]

he thinks the refs rigged it for the spurs vs the suns back in the day + all his predictions against the spurs are wrong

[HarlemHeat37]

I fully agree with Simmons, tbh..

He actually defends the Spurs more than any mainstream writer, yet Spurs fans shit on him every time he picks the Spurs:lol..

[Frank Dux]

Theyre easily the most...

The obsession continues...

[ohmwrecker]

Theyre easily the most insecure.

I'm always interested to hear a valid opinion on this because I am inclined to agree but . . .


Probably because the know all that "boring" stuff is actually true.

This isn't it.

[Cry Havoc]

it's true, most insecure fanbase in sports (that I can think of)

:cry stern out to get us :cry

:rolleyes still got 4 rings under his reign and won Tim Duncan vs a much more storied franchise

There's no chance that we are the most insecure fanbase when we're playing in the same sport as Lakers fans.

[benefactor]

Eh...he's not too far off. Plenty of proof upstairs.

[jeebus]

Agree with Simmons. He's a huge Timmy fan and is a fan of the Spurs; tbh I'm glad he's picking the Grizzlies cuz he's been so far off this whole playoff series. regarding the fat fucks in this town, they throw around the term hater so much. if anyone has an opinion that doesn't fit their greasy, high blood pressure opinion, they're a hater.

[Phillip]

troof bombs by simmons

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

There have been times where he's been guilty of the charge, but I don't think this is one of them.

[Venti Quattro]

Bill Simmons with the truth.

[Fpoonsie]

"_____ fans are funny..."

Completely interchangeable. There're faggot fans in each and every base.

[midnightpulp]

troof bombs by simmons

The prodigal son returns to our Raiders, brother!

[ohmwrecker]

"_____ fans are funny..."

Completely interchangeable. There're faggot fans in each and every base.

Well, that's settled. Good to know we won't waste our time arguing about this again.

[SupremeGuy]

Just another talking head moron trying to spin the fact that he's shit with predictions. Doesn't like getting called out for sucking at his job :cryThis.

[DAF86]

Don't get the Simmons hate from Spursfans, honestly. He was one of the few "journalists" back in the day to really gush over Duncan. When the KG vs. Duncan debate was raging in the mid-00s, he was the only talking head I can remember who trumpeted Duncan's superiority, using none of the "supporting cast" excuses that KG fans often resorted to.

So what he didn't pick the Spurs.? They didn't look as strong as Memphis going into this series. He had good reason.

Not really, anyone that could see beyond OKC's lack of offensive system could see that Memphis lack of shooting was going to be a problem against a team as balanced as the Spurs.

[spursfan1000]

Bill who?

[hater]

Tbh id be worried if simmons picks the spurs. The most moronic know nothing commentator in sports :lol

[DAF86]

Regarding Simmons, I like him but he has made some retarded predictions against the Spurs in these playoffs. I don't matter him picking against us but give me a good reason. His analisis on the last two Spurs' series have been way off and instead of acknowledging this and give the Spurs some props he has been dissmising them and blaming his retarded predictions on injuries, bad ref calls, etc. Not to mention that he has been blatantly cheering for the Warriors and now Memphis, everyone has favorites in any given series but if you're working for the network broadcasting those games you should show a little more impartiallity, imvho.

[eric365]

This column right after game 2 vs OKC last year was really great:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7988382/the-spurs-zombies-retro-diary

Not a spurs hater at all IMO

[hater]

This column right after game 2 vs OKC last year was really great:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7988382/the-spurs-zombies-retro-diary

Not a spurs hater at all IMO

and spurs proceeded to get swept after that :lol

that is why I said, when this stupid fuck gives you props and cheers you, that's when you should be worried :lol

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

and spurs proceeded to get swept after that :lol

that is why I said, when this stupid fuck gives you props and cheers you, that's when you should be worried :lol

He had his nose so far up the ass of SSOL Suns too.

[Rummpd]

Funny columist but with any basketball knowledge = no. They did hire Lowe who is 100x better for the same site who admires the Spurs so perhaps it is just he is still bitter Duncan did not go to Boston....

[Dex]

:cry Why doesn't ESPN like us? :cry

[mercos]

Simmons pretty accurately described fans of any team in any sport. Thinking the whole world is against your team is a pretty common sentiment, as people in general are insecure. The fact that he said this about the Spurs, and not any of the other teams when it is equally applicable, fuels the fire of those who feel that way.

[Humberto]

I am one of the biggest Spurs fans since 1989 and I actually like Bill Simmons a lot. He's a homer for Boston sports but grew up going to Celtics games with his dad so it's understandable. A majority of his articles and books are always good reads... good sense of humor combined with basketball knowledge. He's basically just a small dude that grew up as a basketball junkie and now gets paid to continue to be a basketball junkie, I am kind of jealous tbh.

[Juggity]

all that "boring" stuff is actually true.

From 1998-2007, I feel you.

From 2007-2013, I can't think of a comment that rings more false. Spurs play at one of the fastest paces in the league. That's the opposite of boring.

[hater]

I am one of the biggest Spurs fans since 1989 and I actually like Bill Simmons a lot. He's a homer for Boston sports but grew up going to Celtics games with his dad so it's understandable. A majority of his articles and books are always good reads... good sense of humor combined with basketball knowledge. He's basically just a small dude that grew up as a basketball junkie and now gets paid to continue to be a basketball junkie, I am kind of jealous tbh.

I don't mind him writing books and radio shows whatever. but commentating at halftime and doing post game analysis is fucking retarded. He knows nothing about the game and proves it everytime he opens his mouth.

[Humberto]

Yeah.. especially in game 1 when they were on air and he had no idea. Doesn't make sense how he sees co hosts discussing and looking at each other yet he just keeps fixing his shirt and tie.

[mrjap2x]

From 1998-2007, I feel you.

From 2007-2013, I can't think of a comment that rings more false. Spurs play at one of the fastest paces in the league. That's the opposite of boring.
I'd probably agree that the spurs were boring pre-Manu but after Manu got decent minutes, he provided highlights. I still don't get the "boring tag" at all.

[Thebesteva]

:cry Why doesn't ESPN like us? :cry

Since 08, ESPN trolls every fan base except for the team Lebron is one(Cavs, or Heat). Even as a Laker fan, I can remember so many times they would constantly on a weekly basis have a new article up by Henry Abbott, Bill Simmons, or Arash Markazi about how Kobe is statistically not as good as Carmelo Anthony and is overrated. That shit boiled Laker fans, this was at a time Kobe was leading his team to the finals and winning championships.

Even after winning, they were talking about statistically he wasn't as good as Lebron was in the finals in 2007. It was a constant comparison and bashing of Kobe Bryant against Lebron and MJ. It's well known that the base of ESPN is on the East Coast, with the majority of them being homer fans for Celtics and Lebron for some odd reason.

[Kidd K]

Bill Simmons is butthurt because he made yet another awful prediction picking against the Spurs and people are calling him out on being dead wrong yet again and for refusing to admit it. . .but rather keep making excuses for it.

He's just trying to deflect his ignorant picks and lack of knowledge of the Spurs and turn it around to attack Spurfans being upset about his picks. . .as if they're the ones who made two straight awful predictions concerning that team.

He clearly did not watch much NBA this year. And I'm pretty sure of that because most of his opinions about the NBA from years ago are sound imo, but his opinions and predictions for this season are pretty awful. He obviously skipped most of this season, and probably last season too besides "hot teams" like OKC, Heat, and Lakers. His Spurs' knowledge in particular is obviously very shitty.

[td4mvp2k]

troof bombs by simmons

fan of cuban talkn :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Since 08, ESPN trolls every fan base except for the team Lebron is one(Cavs, or Heat). Even as a Laker fan, I can remember so many times they would constantly on a weekly basis have a new article up by Henry Abbott, Bill Simmons, or Arash Markazi about how Kobe is statistically not as good as Carmelo Anthony and is overrated. That shit boiled Laker fans, this was at a time Kobe was leading his team to the finals and winning championships.

Even after winning, they were talking about statistically he wasn't as good as Lebron was in the finals in 2007. It was a constant comparison and bashing of Kobe Bryant against Lebron and MJ. It's well known that the base of ESPN is on the East Coast, with the majority of them being homer fans for Celtics and Lebron for some odd reason.
:cry "ESPN hates Kirby so much!" :cry

Never mind all the time and energy they've put into perpetuating the "Kirby is clutch" and "Kirby is a warrior" myths, or the fact that 90% of SportsCenter during the NBA season is devoted to the Lakers....

[Thebesteva]

:cry "ESPN hates Kirby so much!" :cry

Never mind all the time and energy they've put into perpetuating the "Kirby is clutch" and "Kirby is a warrior" myths, or the fact that 90% of SportsCenter during the NBA season is devoted to the Lakers....

The point is that they arent just out to get the Spurs. They troll every fan base. The overall message is, they know "irk the fan base" news makes more attention and gets them paid better, than "make the fan base feel good about themselves" news.

[hater]

The point is that they arent just out to get the Spurs. They troll every fan base. The overall message is, they know "irk the fan base" news makes more attention and gets them paid better, than "make the fan base feel good about themselves" news.

disagree. ESPN's main goal is to grab the attention of average ignorant fat sports fan. They show the highlights, dunks and ride monkeyballing teams like the Clippers and Thunder. Of course Lebron is their #1 product. And they occasionally ride the big market teams like Boston, NY and LA. That's about it. Their editors have already concluded that Spurs are bad bad news for ratings. Some announcers have already publicly admitted the ESPN inner family secretly roots for whoever the Spurs play and wants them out. They detest talking about them.

furthermore, it's understandable. Who wants to watch 48 minutes of the same play over and over. That's what the Spurs do. It's all understandable except ESPN should be a litle more professional, nonbiased about it, at least try to act like a neutral news org

[J.T.]

Simmons is 100% right. He actually knows a lot more about basketball than any of the other non-player "experts" ESPN hires to talk out of their ass, and praises Duncan and the Spurs all the time in his writing. But Spur fan just sees him pick the Warriors and the Grizzlies and think he hates the Spurs, or doesn't know shit, when he actually does.

Other half of the problem is Spur fan is a gigantic oversensitive 16 year old girl constantly getting her panties in a wad over whether or not the cute boys in school like her.

[FkLA]

I never read much of Simmons work as a journalist, but he is terrible on the air.

The Warriors pick was retarded, I dont see how calling that out as being retarded=being butthurt by spurfan. A smart basketball fan/analyst doesnt take the Warriors in a 7 game series. He also used weak shit like Currys hobbled ankle, Lee out, and Barnes injury played a role in deciding the series...even though the Spurs had Tiago and Parker injured as well. His comment of 'you dont comeback from 2-0 vs SA...' yesterday also bothers me, for someone thats supposedly a great journalist and makes a living by talking basketball how does he forget last years WCF ?

[Beaverfuzz]

Simmons is a blow hard, nothing more and nothing less. Go back to Beantown you pussy, the West Coast is not for you.

[AaronY]

Don't get the Simmons hate from Spursfans, honestly. He was one of the few "journalists" back in the day to really gush over Duncan. When the KG vs. Duncan debate was raging in the mid-00s, he was the only talking head I can remember who trumpeted Duncan's superiority, using none of the "supporting cast" excuses that KG fans often resorted to.

So what he didn't pick the Spurs.? They didn't look as strong as Memphis going into this series. He had good reason.
In his last podcast he went on a LONG harangue about Duncan was better than Kobe and how it bothered him that more people didn't see this..

[Phillip]

Simmons pretty accurately described fans of any team in any sport. Thinking the whole world is against your team is a pretty common sentiment, as people in general are insecure. The fact that he said this about the Spurs, and not any of the other teams when it is equally applicable, fuels the fire of those who feel that way.

butthurt response from an easily butthurt fanbase, tbh

[TDfan2007]

Spurs fans, at least the ones on this board, are extremely insecure. Almost every week somebody posts a thread bitching about ESPN or some commentator. Reading game blogs is hilarious too, because Spurs fans are so sensitive to announcers saying anything nice/positive about the other team.

[Kidd K]

Simmons is 100% right. He actually knows a lot more about basketball than any of the other non-player "experts" ESPN hires to talk out of their ass, and praises Duncan and the Spurs all the time in his writing. But Spur fan just sees him pick the Warriors and the Grizzlies and think he hates the Spurs, or doesn't know shit, when he actually does.

Other half of the problem is Spur fan is a gigantic oversensitive 16 year old girl constantly getting her panties in a wad over whether or not the cute boys in school like her.

That's not it though. I respect most of Simmons' opinions, but the "facts" he's been using when speaking about the Spurs recently have been terrible and mostly irrelevant. He's been a classic case of looking for facts to suit theories rather than making a theory to suit the facts.

Simmons was positive the Spurs would lose to the Warriors after game 1, and he was wrong. . .so he made a bunch of excuses for why he was wrong. Then he picks the Grizzlies in 6. ..and they get blown out in game 1. So instead of admit he was wrong, he continues to ride his pick (again) rather than admit he was wrong. . .again.

On top of that, if you listen to his reasoning of why he thought each team would beat the Spurs, it isn't sound. It's like typical ESPN logic (oh oh, last year against the Thunder! Hurr durr, 2 years ago um!, yeah!). Basically just looking at a piece of paper with outcomes of their last 2 elimination series and devising his entire opinion around JUST that, then filling airspace with what he likes about the Grizzlies/Warriors.

In other words, he had basically barely any logical grounds for his pick, or sticking to it. And unlike the other ESPN talking heads, never admits he was wrong. He makes excuses for why the team he picked lost. That's why Spurs fans are talking shit about him. Not that he picked against them. Sorry for the long read, but I felt like explaining why Simmons is actually just being a dipshit here, and is not correct at all. He's just deflecting to take attention away from his terrible and clearly wrong opinions about the Spurs this year.

[AaronY]

^thats actually pretty spot on and I'm big Simmons fan..in his defense the Spurs did collapse at points in the last two playoffs so its reasonable to wonder if that will happen again..

[HI-FI]

i could care less if Simmons or anyone picks against the Spurs. I like the underdog status tbh. it's just Simmons is becoming increasingly butthurt about how bad his picks have been. He keeps making more excuses, plus last night after Grizzlies dropped an important game in OT, he was like "you get the sense that Grizzlies are boxers just figuring everything out " or some bullshit. Simmons appears to have a DeadlyDynastyesque gambling problem, so it could be more than a loss of pride for his shitty logic.

[100%duncan]

Jared>Melo
Horry> Shaq and Kobe

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[siraulo23]

if ST spursforum upstairs represent majority of spurs fans, he's right tbh :lol

[siraulo23]

Spurs fans, at least the ones on this board, are extremely insecure. Almost every week somebody posts a thread bitching about ESPN or some commentator. Reading game blogs is hilarious too, because Spurs fans are so sensitive to announcers saying anything nice/positive about the other team.

more like every other day :lol

[DMC]

All these mainstream writers want to write about big market teams and superstars. They hate being told to write about San Antonio. There's nothing new to say. They get nothing from Pop, none of the Spurs are interesting enough to write about, they don't do stupid shit too often, and you could find an article from years ago and it would apply today if you changed the names. So it's a given that the Spurs will play a certain way and reach a certain level IF other teams don't live up to their talent levels. Few teams can have everything, those that have basically destroyed the league for years. Now you have teams that have a lion's share of the NBA talent and yet they don't have the poise, or they don't have the chemistry, or they don't have the coach, or they don't have the luck in terms of injuries. When they don't, the Spurs will probably be the team to challenge them since the Spurs maintain a constant level of performance year in and year out. They just don't have the collective talent or the superstars to be a preseason favorite every year.

So why write about them? Why not predict that other teams will beat them? If you pick the Spurs and they win, big deal. No one cares. If you picked the Grizz and they win, hey you picked a lower seeded team, you have foresight, you're an oracle.

[AaronY]

All these mainstream writers want to write about big market teams and superstars. They hate being told to write about San Antonio. There's nothing new to say. They get nothing from Pop, none of the Spurs are interesting enough to write about, they don't do stupid shit too often, and you could find an article from years ago and it would apply today if you changed the names. So it's a given that the Spurs will play a certain way and reach a certain level IF other teams don't live up to their talent levels. Few teams can have everything, those that have basically destroyed the league for years. Now you have teams that have a lion's share of the NBA talent and yet they don't have the poise, or they don't have the chemistry, or they don't have the coach, or they don't have the luck in terms of injuries. When they don't, the Spurs will probably be the team to challenge them since the Spurs maintain a constant level of performance year in and year out. They just don't have the collective talent or the superstars to be a preseason favorite every year.

So why write about them? Why not predict that other teams will beat them? If you pick the Spurs and they win, big deal. No one cares. If you picked the Grizz and they win, hey you picked a lower seeded team, you have foresight, you're an oracle.
Spot on tbh

[Suspect]

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[da_suns_fan]

Spurs fans know why no one cares about the Spurs they just pretend not to.

They like big, explosive games from superstars just as much as everyone else. They just pretend not to because it never happens on their team. I know several Spurs fans had DVD copies made of Ginobilis "50 point game" against the Suns back in 2005. They love the extraordinary as much as anyone else, they just cant admit it because they live in San Antonio.

The highest scoring game of any Spur this season was 34. To put that in perspective, Jared Dudley had a season of 36 this year.

So why would the media talk about the Spurs? What is there to say and why would anyone care?

[Clipper Nation]

They like big, explosive games from superstars just as much as everyone else. They just pretend not to because it never happens on their team.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nejQMtkyLgY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpT0QdUDIY

I'd like to see Jared Dudley do that, tbh....

[chapnis]

He's right, and one of the best writers out there at the moment tbh.

[da_suns_fan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nejQMtkyLgY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpT0QdUDIY

I'd like to see Jared Dudley do that, tbh....


Thanks for David Robinson highlights. Not please tell me which Spur had a big game this season, douche.

[rjv]

sports "writer" letting fan base get under his skin

[DAF86]

Jared Dudley :lol

[KaiRMD1]

I don't really hate on Simmons because of that, the guy works for ESPN so over time, I've just assumed everybody their has shit takes but sometimes, I listen to Simmons and the guy sometimes has good takes. But there are a ton of Spurs fans along with fans of a lot of other teams that will call you a hater if you pick against their team. The life of sports I guess.

[J.T.]

That's not it though. I respect most of Simmons' opinions, but the "facts" he's been using when speaking about the Spurs recently have been terrible and mostly irrelevant. He's been a classic case of looking for facts to suit theories rather than making a theory to suit the facts.

Simmons was positive the Spurs would lose to the Warriors after game 1, and he was wrong. . .so he made a bunch of excuses for why he was wrong. Then he picks the Grizzlies in 6. ..and they get blown out in game 1. So instead of admit he was wrong, he continues to ride his pick (again) rather than admit he was wrong. . .again.

On top of that, if you listen to his reasoning of why he thought each team would beat the Spurs, it isn't sound. It's like typical ESPN logic (oh oh, last year against the Thunder! Hurr durr, 2 years ago um!, yeah!). Basically just looking at a piece of paper with outcomes of their last 2 elimination series and devising his entire opinion around JUST that, then filling airspace with what he likes about the Grizzlies/Warriors.

In other words, he had basically barely any logical grounds for his pick, or sticking to it. And unlike the other ESPN talking heads, never admits he was wrong. He makes excuses for why the team he picked lost. That's why Spurs fans are talking shit about him. Not that he picked against them. Sorry for the long read, but I felt like explaining why Simmons is actually just being a dipshit here, and is not correct at all. He's just deflecting to take attention away from his terrible and clearly wrong opinions about the Spurs this year.

He's still 100% right about Spur fan being an oversensitive little bitch when you don't say nice things about her. Seriously. I love the Spurs but I hate almost all the fans who post here because it's a non stop attention whore fest for negative articles about the Spurs. "Guys! Look what these fuckers said about the Spurs! Boring?!?!?! Have you seen the scoreboards?!?!? And did you hear what this faggot said on ESPN today?!?!" Seriously. GNSF needs to stop being an oversensitive bitch. Not many people like the Spurs outside of San Antonio. When you go out into the world and mingle with other folks, like, oh, I dunno, the fans and media representatives of 29 other teams, you're going to find out people don't like you.

I don't think Simmons hates the Spurs at all. And I honestly don't blame him for trying to save face when he was wrong. Everyone does that.

[Sean Cagney]

Theyre easily the most insecure. Probably because the know all that "boring" stuff is actually true.

Blahhhhhhhhhh, more hate from this guy here! Go watch your Suns... Wait.

[Kidd K]

He's still 100% right about Spur fan being an oversensitive little bitch when you don't say nice things about her. Seriously. I love the Spurs but I hate almost all the fans who post here because it's a non stop attention whore fest for negative articles about the Spurs. "Guys! Look what these fuckers said about the Spurs! Boring?!?!?! Have you seen the scoreboards?!?!? And did you hear what this faggot said on ESPN today?!?!" Seriously. GNSF needs to stop being an oversensitive bitch. Not many people like the Spurs outside of San Antonio. When you go out into the world and mingle with other folks, like, oh, I dunno, the fans and media representatives of 29 other teams, you're going to find out people don't like you.

I don't think Simmons hates the Spurs at all. And I honestly don't blame him for trying to save face when he was wrong. Everyone does that.

You seem to be a lot more oversensitive about this than the Spurfans you're talking about. Look at all your nerd rage insults about them. Pretty embarrassing and ironic imo.

Grey or bolded names don't mean shit on here or anywhere either. There's an equal proportion of shitty bolded name fans than there are grey names. Completely meaningless. Post count doesn't mean shit either. It just means that they were around and being shitty posters for even longer.

I also never said Simmons hates the Spurs, I said he had shitty Spurs knowledge due to his fail predictions and refusal to admit he was wrong. Strawman.

[TDMVPDPOY]

this kent wont last long if he rego onto spurstalk....

[jimbo]

There's no chance that we are the most insecure fanbase when we're playing in the same sport as Lakers fans.

I just consider them more retarded than insecure. There's at least some storyline you could make yourself believe as a Spurs fan to why the world hates you. As a Laker fan you've gotta be just dumber than shit to believe some of the stuff posted on LG.

[Raven]

he may not hate the spurs, but his ignorance sure is annoying.

[AaronY]

He's still 100% right about Spur fan being an oversensitive little bitch when you don't say nice things about her. Seriously. I love the Spurs but I hate almost all the fans who post here because it's a non stop attention whore fest for negative articles about the Spurs. "Guys! Look what these fuckers said about the Spurs! Boring?!?!?! Have you seen the scoreboards?!?!? And did you hear what this faggot said on ESPN today?!?!" Seriously. GNSF needs to stop being an oversensitive bitch. Not many people like the Spurs outside of San Antonio. When you go out into the world and mingle with other folks, like, oh, I dunno, the fans and media representatives of 29 other teams, you're going to find out people don't like you.

I don't think Simmons hates the Spurs at all. And I honestly don't blame him for trying to save face when he was wrong. Everyone does that.
Unadulterated pure fucking truth..casual fan loves to see showboaty displays of pure athleticism like highlight reel dunks and only one the Spurs have that makes really impressive ones of those is Kawhi and if you gathered all of his highlight reel dunks from this year they would like have a hard time rivaling any five game stretch from Lebron or a healthy Blake..

[chapnis]

Anyone who reacts to this by getting annoyed at Simmons just proves his point.

[lmbebo]

All sports fans are annoying when national media constantly down plays them. I don't think its anything specific to SA Spurs fans. All teams are equally bad.

[J.T.]

You seem to be a lot more oversensitive about this than the Spurfans you're talking about. Look at all your nerd rage insults about them. Pretty embarrassing and ironic imo.

Grey or bolded names don't mean shit on here or anywhere either. There's an equal proportion of shitty bolded name fans than there are grey names. Completely meaningless. Post count doesn't mean shit either. It just means that they were around and being shitty posters for even longer.

You're right, BNSF also starts a ton of threads whining and crying any time the media doesn't get down on its knees and suck a silver and black dick. I was wrong to only accuse GNSF of doing it. My bad. And nerd rage insults? The only one who seems to be insulted here is you and I didn't even single you out. Besides, I was just giving a sarcastic example of how your generic "Oh no! Look at this negative comment someone made about the Spurs!" thread goes upstairs. I've been here for seven years and it happens damn near almost every day. The only thing embarrassing or ironic going on right now is how you said my use of sarcasm was embarrassing and ironic when you essentially did the exact same thing in detailing typical ESPN logic when picking against the Spurs in your previous post:


It's like typical ESPN logic (oh oh, last year against the Thunder! Hurr durr, 2 years ago um!, yeah!)

I might have used more swearing to get my point across, but you can't have it both ways, dipshit. There are a lot of oversensitive Spurs fans upstairs, that's a fact. You can talk about how post counts and username typesetting doesn't mean shit because you've only been here for a year and don't want to get lumped in with the crowd of folks who clearly don't know what they're talking about, but they can also indicate whether or not someone has the experience to speak on certain subjects like the propensity of a lot of Spurs fans here to take anti-Spurs media comments way too personally. And if you mean to insinuate that the kind of topics and comments I've just described don't frequently go on upstairs, then, well, you're an idiot.


I also never said Simmons hates the Spurs, I said he had shitty Spurs knowledge due to his fail predictions and refusal to admit he was wrong. Strawman.

You're really on some kind of crusade with this one, aren't you? The original post in this thread features a tweet of Simmons saying all Spurs fans think you hate the Spurs if you pick against them. All I said was I don't think Simmons hates the Spurs because he picked against them. I never said you said anything. Try to keep up.

[GaryJohnston]

Simmons should be big boy enough to know that some fans of any and every team expect their team to win and get upset when they are picked against.

Simmons should also be big boy enough to of learned not to pick against the Spurs when its not warranted.Such as the Golden State and Grizzlies series.

[GaryJohnston]

Simmons also needs to be careful how he qualifies Spurs fans as a whole. Case in point, I can easily say he's a douchy Boston sports fan just like every single one of them.

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

Isn't this true of nearly all fans of all sports teams?

[romain.star]

He admitted during one of his interview at the 2013 AS Break that he's never been to San Antonio. I guess he needs some time to get used to SA fans

[Phillip]

Isn't this true of nearly all fans of all sports teams?

Somewhat.

SA fans are far more notorious for this than any other fanbase I have ever seen though. In fact, this is probably about the only nauseating thing about Spurs fans. Other than this, they are okay. Nowhere nearly as obnoxious as LA or OKC fans.

[DMC]

Spurs fans know why no one cares about the Spurs they just pretend not to.

They like big, explosive games from superstars just as much as everyone else. They just pretend not to because it never happens on their team. I know several Spurs fans had DVD copies made of Ginobilis "50 point game" against the Suns back in 2005. They love the extraordinary as much as anyone else, they just cant admit it because they live in San Antonio.

The highest scoring game of any Spur this season was 34. To put that in perspective, Jared Dudley had a season of 36 this year.

So why would the media talk about the Spurs? What is there to say and why would anyone care?

You guys still trophy case shopping? The first one you looked at a few decades ago is back in style, just letting you know.

[Mel_13]

You guys still trophy case shopping? The first one you looked at a few decades ago is back in style, just letting you know.

:lol

Phoenix Suns: highest cumulative regular season winning percentage of all current NBA franchises that have failed to win a championship.

[snickles]

Probably because the know all that "boring" stuff is actually true.

if by boring you mean we don't have players in the news all time time for drunk driving, wife beating, owing mad money to jewelry stores, dog fighting, incidents at strip clubs at 3am, partying the night before a game, pulling guns out in the locker room, coach choking, writing hot checks, shooting a limo driver in the face, or dating mediocre pop stars, then yeah, we're totally boring.

[jeebus]

who says the spurs are boring?????


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbIPh-CBtIM

[Kidd K]

You're right, BNSF also starts a ton of threads whining and crying any time the media doesn't get down on its knees and suck a silver and black dick. I was wrong to only accuse GNSF of doing it. My bad. And nerd rage insults? The only one who seems to be insulted here is you and I didn't even single you out. Besides, I was just giving a sarcastic example of how your generic "Oh no! Look at this negative comment someone made about the Spurs!" thread goes upstairs. I've been here for seven years and it happens damn near almost every day. The only thing embarrassing or ironic going on right now is how you said my use of sarcasm was embarrassing and ironic when you essentially did the exact same thing in detailing typical ESPN logic when picking against the Spurs in your previous post:



I might have used more swearing to get my point across, but you can't have it both ways, dipshit. There are a lot of oversensitive Spurs fans upstairs, that's a fact. You can talk about how post counts and username typesetting doesn't mean shit because you've only been here for a year and don't want to get lumped in with the crowd of folks who clearly don't know what they're talking about, but they can also indicate whether or not someone has the experience to speak on certain subjects like the propensity of a lot of Spurs fans here to take anti-Spurs media comments way too personally. And if you mean to insinuate that the kind of topics and comments I've just described don't frequently go on upstairs, then, well, you're an idiot.



You're really on some kind of crusade with this one, aren't you? The original post in this thread features a tweet of Simmons saying all Spurs fans think you hate the Spurs if you pick against them. All I said was I don't think Simmons hates the Spurs because he picked against them. I never said you said anything. Try to keep up.

Don't flatter yourself assuming I personally felt insulted. I was pointing out the obvious, and the irony of your complaints. People don't have to be insulted to post about it. I'm glad you can agree BN fans aren't any better than GN fans though, I personaly see no difference between them except that the arrogance of BN fans is greater.

Swearing isn't really the point, it's the repetative insults. Those just hurt your point instead of help it since it just displays your bias. Post count and color of name have nothing at all to do with basketball knowledge. It's just how long they've been on the forum posting about random garbage. I've been on more than enough forums to know that the posters with the highest post counts are generally the posters least worth reading. Always the case? No. Usually? Yes. A garbage poster who posts about garbage ten times as much as a good poster who likes to just post about basketball doesn't magically make him a better poster because his post count is higher. Post count means nothing, and I would still say that if I had a million posts.

Lastly, if you weren't referring to me specifically when you said that, maybe you shouldn't say it immediately after referring to me personally three times in the sentence right before it. As if I had a problem with anything except the trolling defense of Simmons who was just acting butthurt over being called out on his repetative excuse making after his picks turned out to be wrong due to lack of being informed.

[apalisoc_9]

Simmons is one of the better analyst we have today. He just doesn't really have enough time to better articulate his thoughts on half-time shows that's why he sounds dumb.

[da_suns_fan]

if by boring you mean we don't have players in the news all time time for drunk driving, wife beating, owing mad money to jewelry stores, dog fighting, incidents at strip clubs at 3am, partying the night before a game, pulling guns out in the locker room, coach choking, writing hot checks, shooting a limo driver in the face, or dating mediocre pop stars, then yeah, we're totally boring.

So Miami and OKC dont have any of those and no one ever called them boring.

The Suns were the most exciting team of the last decade and they didnt have any of those either.

btw - Be sure to download a copy of Tony Parkers rap album. While youre at it, take a look at Stephen Jackson's assault of the fans of detroit.

[benefactor]

You're really on some kind of crusade with this one, aren't you? The original post in this thread features a tweet of Simmons saying all Spurs fans think you hate the Spurs if you pick against them. All I said was I don't think Simmons hates the Spurs because he picked against them. I never said you said anything. Try to keep up.
You've probably figured it out by now...but Kidd K is a pretty huge faggot with awful takes. He's basically upstairs Spur fan in a nutshell.

[cheguevara]

Simmons is one of the better analyst we have today. He just doesn't really have enough time to better articulate his thoughts on half-time shows that's why he sounds dumb.

so jumping on Warriors wagon, claiming they still have a shot every single game, then jumping on grizz wagon, claiming game 2 is proof grizz are getting it together, all those shitty opinions are due because he does not have enough time to explain them??

[Clipper Nation]

Simmons is one of the better analyst we have today. He just doesn't really have enough time to better articulate his thoughts on half-time shows that's why he sounds dumb.
He has plenty of time to articulate his thoughts in his columns, yet he sounds retarded in those too....

[DMC]

I happen to be sitting in SH airport in Phoenix right now. The stench of Nash is no longer here. I bet LA smells like Ben Gay and Deep Heet. I wonder what a torn Achilles smells like.

[J.T.]

Don't flatter yourself assuming I personally felt insulted. I was pointing out the obvious, and the irony of your complaints. People don't have to be insulted to post about it. I'm glad you can agree BN fans aren't any better than GN fans though, I personaly see no difference between them except that the arrogance of BN fans is greater.

Swearing isn't really the point, it's the repetative insults. Those just hurt your point instead of help it since it just displays your bias. Post count and color of name have nothing at all to do with basketball knowledge. It's just how long they've been on the forum posting about random garbage. I've been on more than enough forums to know that the posters with the highest post counts are generally the posters least worth reading. Always the case? No. Usually? Yes. A garbage poster who posts about garbage ten times as much as a good poster who likes to just post about basketball doesn't magically make him a better poster because his post count is higher. Post count means nothing, and I would still say that if I had a million posts.


This spat going on between you and I right now has nothing to do with basketball takes and how much someone knows about the sport. At this point it's essentially about your absolute lack of reading comprehension and your inability to accept the fact that a lot of Spurs fans, particularly the oversensitive bitch variety that posts upstairs, take anti-Spurs media analysis extremely personally, whether or not said anti-Spurs media analysis is grounded in fact or fiction. It's not a given for the entire fanbase, but it happens enough to be a trend... You know, like black people dealing cocaine or Mexican women being fat.

That being said, I don't know how the pejorative nature of the "oversensitive bitch" monicker I bestowed upon Spurs fans who take anti-Spurs media analysis too personally hurts the point I'm making at all. It's true and backs up what Simmons said in his tweet. That's all I was trying to point out and I'm absolutely confident that I succeeded in getting that point across. I agree that post count generally just means someone has nothing better to do and posts a lot. But what I said in my previous post remains no less true. I've seen enough threads get made upstairs and in here by Spurs fans crying about anti-Spurs media comments. It's not your fault that you haven't been here long enough to properly digest the frequency at which that happens, but that's not an excuse to act like it doesn't happen as frequently as it does.


Lastly, if you weren't referring to me specifically when you said that, maybe you shouldn't say it immediately after referring to me personally three times in the sentence right before it. As if I had a problem with anything except the trolling defense of Simmons who was just acting butthurt over being called out on his repetative excuse making after his picks turned out to be wrong due to lack of being informed.

Lastly, I think it's funny that you called me out for strawmanning when I wasn't doing it and then immediately turned around and did it yourself. You absolutely took what I said out of context. Here's the entire context just for the sake of pointing this out to you:


GNSF needs to stop being an oversensitive bitch. Not many people like the Spurs outside of San Antonio. When you go out into the world and mingle with other folks, like, oh, I dunno, the fans and media representatives of 29 other teams, you're going to find out people don't like you.

I "refer to you personally" a grand total of zero times in that excerpt (and in the entire post). What I did here was speak in second person when describing the nature of GNSF taking anti-Spurs media comments too personally whilst drinking silver and black Kool-Aid out of a silver and black glass in their silver and black bubble that's wallpapered in silver and black. I'd apologize for not being more clear about that, but I don't feel that's necessary as you're the only one whose reading comprehension was low enough to be insulted by that comment. Try to keep up, guy. I'm not asking much of you.

[J.T.]

You've probably figured it out by now...but Kidd K is a pretty huge faggot with awful takes. He's basically upstairs Spur fan in a nutshell.

Seems like you know what you're talking about so I'll take your word for it braj. It's just funny because he keeps reading to far into what I'm saying. Probably one of those guys that thinks when a girl smiles at him and talks to him for more than two minutes that she wants to bang. :lmao

[Kirk Nowitzki]

This spat going on between you and I right now has nothing to do with basketball takes and how much someone knows about the sport. At this point it's essentially about your absolute lack of reading comprehension and your inability to accept the fact that a lot of Spurs fans, particularly the oversensitive bitch variety that posts upstairs, take anti-Spurs media analysis extremely personally, whether or not said anti-Spurs media analysis is grounded in fact or fiction. It's not a given for the entire fanbase, but it happens enough to be a trend... You know, like black people dealing cocaine or Mexican women being fat.

That being said, I don't know how the pejorative nature of the "oversensitive bitch" monicker I bestowed upon Spurs fans who take anti-Spurs media analysis too personally hurts the point I'm making at all. It's true and backs up what Simmons said in his tweet. That's all I was trying to point out and I'm absolutely confident that I succeeded in getting that point across. I agree that post count generally just means someone has nothing better to do and posts a lot. But what I said in my previous post remains no less true. I've seen enough threads get made upstairs and in here by Spurs fans crying about anti-Spurs media comments. It's not your fault that you haven't been here long enough to properly digest the frequency at which that happens, but that's not an excuse to act like it doesn't happen as frequently as it does.



Lastly, I think it's funny that you called me out for strawmanning when I wasn't doing it and then immediately turned around and did it yourself. You absolutely took what I said out of context. Here's the entire context just for the sake of pointing this out to you:



I "refer to you personally" a grand total of zero times in that excerpt (and in the entire post). What I did here was speak in second person when describing the nature of GNSF taking anti-Spurs media comments too personally whilst drinking silver and black Kool-Aid out of a silver and black glass in their silver and black bubble that's wallpapered in silver and black. I'd apologize for not being more clear about that, but I don't feel that's necessary as you're the only one whose reading comprehension was low enough to be insulted by that comment. Try to keep up, guy. I'm not asking much of you.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzxsyufYi61qfmgozo1_500.gif

[Bill_Brasky]

Kidd K fails on so many levels.

[AaronY]

J.T. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4114) droppin troof nukes

mushroom clouds comin out of this tred and shit

[J.T.]

J.T. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4114) droppin troof nukes

mushroom clouds comin out of this tred and shit

Not only are most Spurs fans here oversensitive bitches, they're also in denial about being oversensitive bitches. I'm as big a homer as the next fan for any of the teams that I like. Everybody wants their team to win and thinks that haters are the bad guys. But you can't just ignore common sense because your world revolves around the teams you like.

[Kidd K]

This spat going on between you and I right now has nothing to do with basketball takes and how much someone knows about the sport. At this point it's essentially about your absolute lack of reading comprehension and your inability to accept the fact that a lot of Spurs fans, particularly the oversensitive bitch variety that posts upstairs, take anti-Spurs media analysis extremely personally, whether or not said anti-Spurs media analysis is grounded in fact or fiction. It's not a given for the entire fanbase, but it happens enough to be a trend... You know, like black people dealing cocaine or Mexican women being fat.

That being said, I don't know how the pejorative nature of the "oversensitive bitch" monicker I bestowed upon Spurs fans who take anti-Spurs media analysis too personally hurts the point I'm making at all. It's true and backs up what Simmons said in his tweet. That's all I was trying to point out and I'm absolutely confident that I succeeded in getting that point across. I agree that post count generally just means someone has nothing better to do and posts a lot. But what I said in my previous post remains no less true. I've seen enough threads get made upstairs and in here by Spurs fans crying about anti-Spurs media comments. It's not your fault that you haven't been here long enough to properly digest the frequency at which that happens, but that's not an excuse to act like it doesn't happen as frequently as it does.



Lastly, I think it's funny that you called me out for strawmanning when I wasn't doing it and then immediately turned around and did it yourself. You absolutely took what I said out of context. Here's the entire context just for the sake of pointing this out to you:



I "refer to you personally" a grand total of zero times in that excerpt (and in the entire post). What I did here was speak in second person when describing the nature of GNSF taking anti-Spurs media comments too personally whilst drinking silver and black Kool-Aid out of a silver and black glass in their silver and black bubble that's wallpapered in silver and black. I'd apologize for not being more clear about that, but I don't feel that's necessary as you're the only one whose reading comprehension was low enough to be insulted by that comment. Try to keep up, guy. I'm not asking much of you.

It has everything to do with basketball takes no matter how much you desire to devolve Spurfans' complaints into a convienient strawman to cry about in atypical internet troll fashion. There are always faggots in every fanbase. Nobody debates that and you're just trying to cloud the argument. "Some" is not "all", nor is it "most".

Onto the actual argument: Nearly half of ESPN's analysts picked the Grizzlies, yet barely anyone's talking about them negatively. It's almost solely Bill Simmons because he not only picked wrong, but continues to make excuses for why he was wrong. . .insisting that flukes are the only reason he could have been wrong, not that he just misperceived it.

Apparently you cannot grasp this simple concept though, and instead insist on strawmanning a significant portion of the Spurs' fanbase instead since that's easier and lazier to do. You don't seem to understand what strawmanning is either (no surprise considering you're a long-time Spurstalk poster). I quoted you directly in context, which is not strawmanning. Learn to speak better English if you don't want your words to be mistaken. Your entire argument on the other hand, is one big strawman argument.

Since you hugely fail at understanding what strawmanning is, I will post it's definition for you:




Person 1 has position X.
Person 2 disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y. The position Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:


Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position

Inventing a fictitious persona (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Persona) with actions or beliefs which are then criticized, implying that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.

Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking this oversimplified version.

In other words, exactly what you're doing. Ignoring my point that Spurfans are annoyed that Simmons keeps making excuses for his shitty takes being wrong, and not that he makes them in the first place (as many others have picked against the Spurs and barely anyone's talking about them).

Then you just post a made up position that Spurfans are just "oversensitive bitches who take anti-Spurs analysis extremeley personally whether or not said analysis is based on fact or fiction". Entirely ignoring the point I made to begin with, replacing it with an oversimplified shitty strawman to argue against.

You barely have a leg to stand on. And it's a straw leg at that. Keep up? I've already passed you up and this is my second lap.

[J.T.]

I'm ignoring your comments about Simmons making excuses for his picks because I don't give a shit about his picks, his basketball takes and whether or not he's full of shit. I came into this thread to agree with him that Spurs fans get all pissed off at you when you don't say nice things about the team or pick against them in a playoff series. Surely his Twitter got blown up by Spurs fans talking shit to him when he made his pick. And have you seen some of the things that get posted on Twitter, YouTube comments and other places like that? Not exactly a breeding ground for intellectual discussion. I'm sure some fans had legitimate gripes with him because they didn't agree with his takes. But I'm just as sure that he got a lot of comments from oversensitive bitches too. That's just how it goes. So for all this shit that you keep throwing in my face about how all Spurs fans aren't oversensitive bitches (something I never said, just that a lot of the Spurs fans who post upstairs are like that), I'm sure all people hating on Simmons right now don't simply just disagree with his take or dislike that he's making excuses. So now that we've got that out of the way, more on making you look like an idiot.

Here's the first definition of a strawman argument, straight from your post so you won't have any disagreement with it:


Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position

You accused me of strawmanning because you misinterpreted damn near everything I've fucking said in this thread. Happens to a lot of people so I'm not going to blame you for being a dipshit who's apparently new to talking to people on the Internet. I'd have to misrepresent your position to strawman against you and the only discussion I've been perpetuating in this thread is that Simmons is right because Spurs fans tend to be oversensitive bitches when it comes to anti-Spurs media analysis. All I did was make that point and stand by it. I didn't even address your position that Spurs fans were hating on Simmons because they think his recent takes are bad and he's making excuses until this post, so I couldn't possibly have strawmanned you at the point you accused me of doing it. Them's just the facts, sonny boy.

Furthermore, the point at which you accuse me of strawmanning, you grossly misinterpreted the post in which you accused me of doing it. You said I personally addressed you three times in one sentence, but in that sentence I was still speaking on the nature of Spurs fans to be oversensitive bitches. Once again, the excerpt from my post:


GNSF needs to stop being an oversensitive bitch. Not many people like the Spurs outside of San Antonio. When you go out into the world and mingle with other folks, like, oh, I dunno, the fans and media representatives of 29 other teams, you're going to find out people don't like you.

None of that is addressed at you. Not a single fucking part of it. Once again, all I'm pointing out is the tendency of Spurs fans to be oversensitive bitches and overreact to anti-Spurs media analysis by taking it too personally. Somehow you read that, interpreted it as me saying YOU hate Simmons and then responded to me by saying that I said you said you hate Simmons. Which I didn't. Based on the definition you dug up, you strawmanned me. Your comment on Simmons making bad predictions and following them up with excuses is duly noted, but don't you dare try to act like every Spurs fan who responded to him even read his analysis before they responded. And I didn't insinuate that the oversensitive bitch variety of Spurs fan was even close to qualifying as "all" or "most" of them. Like I said in my last post:


It's not a given for the entire fanbase, but it happens enough to be a trend... You know, like black people dealing cocaine or Mexican women being fat.

My advice is lay off trying to pull an argument out of your ass to try and earn more SpursTalk cred. You're obviously new here and from your arguing tactics pretty young too. If you apply yourself and stop connecting the wrong dots like you have so egregiously done in this thread, you could actually turn into a decent poster. It's like you're actively trying to be a dipshit.

[Kidd K]

I'm ignoring your comments about Simmons making excuses for his picks because I don't give a shit about his picks, his basketball takes and whether or not he's full of shit. I came into this thread to agree with him that Spurs fans get all pissed off at you when you don't say nice things about the team or pick against them in a playoff series. Surely his Twitter got blown up by Spurs fans talking shit to him when he made his pick. And have you seen some of the things that get posted on Twitter, YouTube comments and other places like that? Not exactly a breeding ground for intellectual discussion. I'm sure some fans had legitimate gripes with him because they didn't agree with his takes. But I'm just as sure that he got a lot of comments from oversensitive bitches too. That's just how it goes. So for all this shit that you keep throwing in my face about how all Spurs fans aren't oversensitive bitches (something I never said, just that a lot of the Spurs fans who post upstairs are like that), I'm sure all people hating on Simmons right now don't simply just disagree with his take or dislike that he's making excuses. So now that we've got that out of the way, more on making you look like an idiot.

Here's the first definition of a strawman argument, straight from your post so you won't have any disagreement with it:



You accused me of strawmanning because you misinterpreted damn near everything I've fucking said in this thread. Happens to a lot of people so I'm not going to blame you for being a dipshit who's apparently new to talking to people on the Internet. I'd have to misrepresent your position to strawman against you and the only discussion I've been perpetuating in this thread is that Simmons is right because Spurs fans tend to be oversensitive bitches when it comes to anti-Spurs media analysis. All I did was make that point and stand by it. I didn't even address your position that Spurs fans were hating on Simmons because they think his recent takes are bad and he's making excuses until this post, so I couldn't possibly have strawmanned you at the point you accused me of doing it. Them's just the facts, sonny boy.

Furthermore, the point at which you accuse me of strawmanning, you grossly misinterpreted the post in which you accused me of doing it. You said I personally addressed you three times in one sentence, but in that sentence I was still speaking on the nature of Spurs fans to be oversensitive bitches. Once again, the excerpt from my post:



None of that is addressed at you. Not a single fucking part of it. Once again, all I'm pointing out is the tendency of Spurs fans to be oversensitive bitches and overreact to anti-Spurs media analysis by taking it too personally. Somehow you read that, interpreted it as me saying YOU hate Simmons and then responded to me by saying that I said you said you hate Simmons. Which I didn't. Based on the definition you dug up, you strawmanned me. Your comment on Simmons making bad predictions and following them up with excuses is duly noted, but don't you dare try to act like every Spurs fan who responded to him even read his analysis before they responded. And I didn't insinuate that the oversensitive bitch variety of Spurs fan was even close to qualifying as "all" or "most" of them. Like I said in my last post:



My advice is lay off trying to pull an argument out of your ass to try and earn more SpursTalk cred. You're obviously new here and from your arguing tactics pretty young too. If you apply yourself and stop connecting the wrong dots like you have so egregiously done in this thread, you could actually turn into a decent poster. It's like you're actively trying to be a dipshit.

Simmons' terrible takes (with lack of logic to them) and excuses for being wrong are why fans have made fun of him for being wrong. You ignoring that proves my point about your strawmanning and ignorace. It's the key point that can't be ignored, but that's exactly what you're doing.

I haven't misinterpretted a single thing you've said. I'm just calling it what it is. Your whole argument is a strawman, and you actively ignore my point to redundantly keep spewing shit about how so many Spurfans are overly sensitive.

You're on a Spurs team forum. It will be loaded with diehard Spursfans, calm Spurfans, shitty Spurfans, and overly sensitive Spurfans. Go to any team forum, you will see many crybabies. The presence of crybabies on this forum does not reinforce or prove your terrible point that Spurfans didn't have a legit beef with Simmons in this particular scenerio.

Your refusal to acknowledge that and refusal to even continue speaking about it doesn't change the fact that it's the main reason they've said as many negative things about him as they have. Like I said, many other sports personalities picked against the Spurs in both series, and none of them are being targeted for insults, its mainly just Simmons. If you don't want to acknowledge that, then I'm done arguing with you about it. You're like a baby with your inability to process new information.

Spurstalk cred? Am I supposed to give a fuck about that? I couldn't care less if the shitty posters on here agree with me or not. I don't post for their approval. :lmao Lastly, you aren't a very good debator yourself, so your opinions on my "arguing tactics" don't mean anything.

[J.T.]

Whatever, dude. You're apparently going to keep coming back for more because you're a dipshit little faggot who doesn't even know what we're talking about anymore. You disagree with Simmons's takes. You don't like that he's making excuses to cover his ass. I get it.

I'm sure he got some shit from Spurs fans on Twitter because he made a shitty take. That doesn't mean ALL Spurs fans think his takes are full of shit or dislike that he's making excuses to cover his ass and chose to give him shit for it, just like what I've been saying doesn't mean ALL Spurs fans are oversensitive bitches. I don't see how this is so hard for you to understand. If anything, the point that you are so vehemently defending is the one that's made of straw. I'm not even questioning your point. I'm ignoring it because it has no relevance to what I'm talking about. I'm just explaining my position to you... that's actually all I've been doing. You're the one that's getting so butthurt that I'm ignoring your own over-fucking-valued opinion that you perpetuated this worthless argument around. Then you played the predictable "I'll just say he strawmmaned me!" card that every forum noob in the history of forums has played when someone makes them look bad in a discussion to try and devalue my point. You like accusing people of strawmanning?


The presence of crybabies on this forum does not reinforce or prove your terrible point that Spurfans didn't have a legit beef with Simmons in this particular scenerio.

There's your strawman statement you stupid fucking faggot. Stay in school.

I give zero fucks about anything you're trying to say here. Zero. You misinterpreted a previous post of mine as a direct personal attack against you as a strawman in an argument that I wasn't even making. You're an idiot of the highest fucking degree and no wonder several people in this thread have either laughed at you or said your takes are full of shit. I'm making two points in this thread. The first one is that Simmons is right because Spurs fans tend to be oversensitive bitches. It's the truth and we could be on a fucking Milwaukee Bucks forum for all I care, wouldn't make it less true. And two, you're a fucking dipshit who has no common sense and uses generalizations to drive his own points off a fucking cliff.

All you've done is move the goal posts and try to put words in my mouth any time I've flayed you. You're almost as bad at this as Avante, and that's about the furthest thing from a compliment I can give your faggot ass.

[Brodie Bruce]

:lmao Kidd K wouldn't know a Strawman if it kicked him in the dick

[Michael Jordan.]

Well he's right. That's why the Tony Parker being denied service ia a thread upstairs.

[Kidd K]

Whatever, dude. You're apparently going to keep coming back for more because you're a dipshit little faggot who doesn't even know what we're talking about anymore. You disagree with Simmons's takes. You don't like that he's making excuses to cover his ass. I get it.

I'm sure he got some shit from Spurs fans on Twitter because he made a shitty take. That doesn't mean ALL Spurs fans think his takes are full of shit or dislike that he's making excuses to cover his ass and chose to give him shit for it, just like what I've been saying doesn't mean ALL Spurs fans are oversensitive bitches. I don't see how this is so hard for you to understand. If anything, the point that you are so vehemently defending is the one that's made of straw. I'm not even questioning your point. I'm ignoring it because it has no relevance to what I'm talking about. I'm just explaining my position to you... that's actually all I've been doing. You're the one that's getting so butthurt that I'm ignoring your own over-fucking-valued opinion that you perpetuated this worthless argument around. Then you played the predictable "I'll just say he strawmmaned me!" card that every forum noob in the history of forums has played when someone makes them look bad in a discussion to try and devalue my point. You like accusing people of strawmanning?



There's your strawman statement you stupid fucking faggot. Stay in school.

I give zero fucks about anything you're trying to say here. Zero. You misinterpreted a previous post of mine as a direct personal attack against you as a strawman in an argument that I wasn't even making. You're an idiot of the highest fucking degree and no wonder several people in this thread have either laughed at you or said your takes are full of shit. I'm making two points in this thread. The first one is that Simmons is right because Spurs fans tend to be oversensitive bitches. It's the truth and we could be on a fucking Milwaukee Bucks forum for all I care, wouldn't make it less true. And two, you're a fucking dipshit who has no common sense and uses generalizations to drive his own points off a fucking cliff.

All you've done is move the goal posts and try to put words in my mouth any time I've flayed you. You're almost as bad at this as Avante, and that's about the furthest thing from a compliment I can give your faggot ass.


You mad son? Sure looks like it. :lmao

You haven't flayed shit, all you've done is ignore the argument and keep redundantly saying the same shit over and over, insisting that your original comment (that Spurfans are crybabies all the time and can never be rightly complaining about someone's comments) is somehow infallable and beyond reproach.

Your argument was shitty and flawed to begin with, now you're just floundering in anger because you got hammered. You can pretend calling a spade a spade is some kind of special "card" if you want, but you're just once again taking the lazy way out rather than admit you were wrong to begin with. You did strawman, and strawmanning is a shitty logical fallacy. Get mad over being called out on it, but your point sucked in the first place.

What you quoted isn't a strawman at all. You continued to post that the argument wasn't about basketball takes, and that it was just about how the fans are overly sensitive. It's exactly what you said. If you say something is turquoise, and I later say you said it was blue, I'm not strawmanning you moron.

And here you go again, claiming I thought the attacks were about me. Thanks for proving my point earlier that you were talking about me and that I wasn't strawmanning you when I said you were talking about me. :lmao

You also just concluded your post with yet another strawman, broad brushing a nearly entire fanbase because of your very limited experience with a small pocket of fans on one forum full of shitty posters such as yourself. You're one of the biggest fools I've ever seen on a forum. Almost every point you make about other people is a strawman, yet you attack other people for strawmanning when you're the only one doing it. Your main argument was a generalization, yet you're attacking me for generalizing. :lmao What a fuckin moron. If someone caught you blowing a guy, you'd probably call them a faggot for catching you do it.

[J.T.]

Explain to me how this is a strawman. Given the things we already know, such as the fact that this excerpt is not addressed at you nor is it addressed at your shitty fucking take on this topic, prove that this is a strawman and I will not only leave this thread, but I'll say you won before I do.


GNSF needs to stop being an oversensitive bitch. Not many people like the Spurs outside of San Antonio. When you go out into the world and mingle with other folks, like, oh, I dunno, the fans and media representatives of 29 other teams, you're going to find out people don't like you.

I don't think Simmons hates the Spurs at all. And I honestly don't blame him for trying to save face when he was wrong. Everyone does that.

All you're doing is reading my post and saying I strawmanned you without properly digesting what I'm talking about. We've been going on about this for days now because you're apparently some gigantic shithead who has no reading comprehension. This thread is about Simmons saying Spurs fans hate him for picking against the Spurs. Somehow you think all of the comments he got from Spurs fans were made by fans who said what they did because they didn't agree with his take or his backpedaling. That cannot possibly be true. It's a generalization. Are you all Spurs fans? Did you read all the comments on his Twitter page? From my vantage point, all I've seen you do is come into this thread, say I'm wrong because YOU disagree with Simmons's take and YOU don't like that he backpedaled after the Spurs won games in this series and are projecting YOUR thoughts onto the entire Spurs fanbase, or at least the subsection of it that responded to Simmons on Twitter.

Me on the other hand has just come in here to agree with Simmons because Spurs fans are oversensitive bitches and he's right. We're not even arguing the same thing. And when accused me of a strawman, I. Wasn't. Mother. Fucking. Talking. To. You. Yeah, I'm getting a little mad because you're a fucking dipshit and it's frustrating to talk to you. You have the reasoning of a 12 year old boy, probably because you are one. As much as you want my comments in that particular clip to be directed at you, they aren't. No amount of you coming in here and making nonsensical analogies about my post can change that. I know what I was thinking when I posted that. You don't. So stop fucking acting like you do. If I say something is turquoise, and then you say "I like turtles," that doesn't make it a strawman you stupid fucking faggot.

[Brodie Bruce]

Kidd K in this thread

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[The Joker]

Kidd K in this thread

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:lmao Dude is shitting his pants all over this thread

[Kirk Nowitzki]

:lmao Kidd K wouldn't know a Strawman if it kicked him in the dick

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