New Chernobyl cover/sarcophagus

[DeadlyDynasty]

Pretty interesting project, set for completion between 2013-2015 (I think). Do you think it'll work--and for how long? The first one didn't last long.

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/uploadedImages/wnn/Images/Chernobyl%20New%20Safe%20Confinement.jpg
http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2012/11/28/20121128122148851734_20.jpg
http://www.theengineer.co.uk/Pictures/web/v/b/v/chernobyl_472.jpg

http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_7bowyrykpzq7l4qv81da4pvbvargevyb.jpg

[CubanMustGo]

Looks more like a new stadium for the Chernobyl Atomics basketball team.

[jeebus]

from what I read up on it in the past, I believe it's supposed to last for 100 years. first one wasn't supposed to last long, not that it would what with soviet engineering and all.

[baseline bum]

Pretty interesting project, set for completion between 2013-2015 (I think). Do you think it'll work--and for how long? The first one didn't last long.

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/uploadedImages/wnn/Images/Chernobyl%20New%20Safe%20Confinement.jpg
http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2012/11/28/20121128122148851734_20.jpg
http://www.theengineer.co.uk/Pictures/web/v/b/v/chernobyl_472.jpg

http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_7bowyrykpzq7l4qv81da4pvbvargevyb.jpg

Shit's gotta last 150,000 years, so no, I don't think it'll work. Have you ever seen the original NOVA episodes about when they went in to survey the damage, how the first sarcophagus was built, how the radiation destroyed all their robots so they used Red Army "Human Robots" (the Soviets' term, not ours) to do the dirty work?

e3FjkBozlu0

There are a couple more PBS Nova episodes on Chernobyl, and they're some of the best newsmagazine episodes I have ever seen.

[TDMVPDPOY]

wtf is it meant to protect it from? when the shit is scattered everywhere within radius?

[baseline bum]

Here's another one:

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[baseline bum]

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[DeadlyDynasty]

Shit's gotta last 150,000 years, so no, I don't think it'll work. Have you ever seen the original NOVA episodes about when they went in to survey the damage, how the first sarcophagus was built, how the radiation destroyed all their robots so they used Red Army "Human Robots" (the Soviets' term, not ours) to do the dirty work?

e3FjkBozlu0

There are a couple more PBS Nova episodes on Chernobyl, and they're some of the best newsmagazine episodes I have ever seen.
Yes, the Battle of Chernobyl documentary is great too. Saw them a few years back--didn't even know wtf a Roentgen was till then:lol Crazy to think of the dose certain people received in such a short period of time

[baseline bum]

Yes, the Battle of Chernobyl documentary is great too. Saw them a few years back--didn't even know wtf a Roentgen was till then:lol Crazy to think of the dose certain people received in such a short period of time

Yeah, that helicopter pilot who took the famous video of the core on fire took in a lethal dose the first second he was over that plume, and was dead something like 18 hours later.

[baseline bum]

Yes, the Battle of Chernobyl documentary is great too. Saw them a few years back--didn't even know wtf a Roentgen was till then:lol Crazy to think of the dose certain people received in such a short period of time

While we're on the topic of documentaries, do you know of any about the Dresden or Hamburg bombings that are any good? The only stuff I have found on Dresden is all from a Neo-Nazi viewpoint and they call it the "real holocaust" to suggest the holocaust of the Jews/Gypsies/leftists/communists never took place. Those bombings surely were worthy of being considered war crimes (as virtually all of the WWII air campaign was from both sides), but I don't want to watch white nationalist propaganda.

[DeadlyDynasty]

While we're on the topic of documentaries, do you know of any about the Dresden or Hamburg bombings that are any good? The only stuff I have found on Dresden is all from a Neo-Nazi viewpoint and they call it the "real holocaust" to suggest the holocaust of the Jews/Gypsies/leftists/communists never took place. Those bombings surely were worthy of being considered war crimes (as virtually all of the WWII air campaign was from both sides), but I don't want to watch white nationalist propaganda.

Nah, no no good ones like you said. The BBC one on Coventry was great though. The Luftwaffe's strategy/plan of attack was tactically amazing (but brutal).

[baseline bum]

Nah, no no good ones like you said. The BBC one on Coventry was great though. The Luftwaffe's strategy/plan of attack was tactically amazing (but brutal).

I thought the Nazis made some enormous mistakes in the Battle of Brittain. They had virtually crippled the RAF in the initial attack but then moved on to terrorist bombing of London instead of finishing off the RAF airfields, and the Luftwaffe ended up paying bigtime for it. Hitler's decisions just seem so questionable and I can understand why his Wehrmacht (not SS) generals thought he was an idiot.

[jeebus]

wtf is it meant to protect it from? when the shit is scattered everywhere within radius?
well, there's still tons (literally tons) of radioactive dust, plutonium/uranium, radioactive soil, and the always fun radioactive corium, which is like nuclear lava. since Chernobyl was a complete clusterfuck of a power plant, there was no containment structure like what Fukushima had. so when shit went downhill and a spurfan, backdoor swept sized meltdown occurred, there was no nice strong structure to keep in most of the radioactive material; it went straight out to Ukraine and beyond. so they quickly and poorly built a huge concrete sarcophagus around it to keep all that crap contained.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why didnt they just dig that shit up and put it down a volcano burn that shit up

[DeadlyDynasty]

why didnt they just dig that shit up and put it down a volcano burn that shit up

Are you autistic?

[jeebus]

Are you autistic?
:lol

[leemajors]

While we're on the topic of documentaries, do you know of any about the Dresden or Hamburg bombings that are any good? The only stuff I have found on Dresden is all from a Neo-Nazi viewpoint and they call it the "real holocaust" to suggest the holocaust of the Jews/Gypsies/leftists/communists never took place. Those bombings surely were worthy of being considered war crimes (as virtually all of the WWII air campaign was from both sides), but I don't want to watch white nationalist propaganda.

The best description I have read of it is still in Slaughterhouse Five.

[Bill_Brasky]

Are you autistic?

:lmao

[mouse]

They could have save billions of dollars according to Agloco the radiation dangers are about the same as eating a banana.

[jeebus]

They could have save billions of dollars according to Agloco the radiation dangers are about the same as eating a banana.
so only gay people are in danger?

[Biernutz]

Please someone tell me that we are not paying for this......

[mouse]

Yeah, that helicopter pilot who took the famous video of the core on fire took in a lethal dose the first second he was over that plume, and was dead something like 18 hours later.

Then how do you explain him in the documentary made years later?

go to 4:20 on the video.
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[mouse]

Here he is today.

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/04/25/1226044/660117-first-to.jpg

[baseline bum]

The how do you explain him in the documentary made years later?

go to 4:20 on the video.
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I don't think that's the same pilot. The one who took that first video I was talking about was a Red Army pilot who was trying to drop neutrons onto the core in an attempt to stop the reaction, and thus had to fly directly through the plume.

[mouse]

I don't think that's the same pilot. The one who took that first video I was talking about was a Red Army pilot who was trying to drop neutrons onto the core in an attempt to stop the reaction, and thus had to fly directly through the plume.

he was the first to arrive he is age 74 now.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/first-to-record-the-horror-of-chernobyl/story-e6frg6so-1226044660129

[jeebus]

Please someone tell me that we are not paying for this......
Naw, the EU is.

I haven't heard anything about the pilots and their dying except for that one chopper that crashed while dumping dirt/lead/etc on the site.

[DeadlyDynasty]

That`s not the pilot in the video...it's the journalist who was in that chopper

[mouse]

The radiation was so strong it locked up his camera, in fact to this day the photographer cant feel his teeth or taste food.

actual photographs, notice the radiation ruining the film.

(Taken from the documentary film was hosted on my photo bucket account and used in many radiation debates I used to participate in)
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/radiation.jpg

That is why many of us question the photographs of the Apollo 11 moon mission not to try and look like conspiracy theorists, but just asking questions like why the photos of space don't show signs of any radiation.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/apollo-hoax/th_NASARadiation.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/apollo-hoax/NASARadiation.mp4)

[hehateme]

here we go again...I swear if conspiracy theorists turned out to be correct about everything they would just become conspiracy of conspiracy theorists and say everything that was faked was really true just to bitch about something else.

[mouse]

Just because you hate a certain group of people doesn't make you special.

[mouse]

That`s not the pilot in the video...it's the journalist who was in that chopper

yes that is true in fact I believe he died within hours I may have to research it. I do know the pilots who flew on a daily basis to pour sand down the reactor core 28 of them died. That is where back to basics and myself had a disagreement we was both right.

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[mouse]

I don't think that's the same pilot.

Just now saw you was referring to the pilot good call!