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HarlemHeat37
05-24-2013, 10:30 PM
1-1 against the champions in the ECFs with a team consisting of:

- No consistent go-to guys for shot creation
- One of the worst 3 benches in the NBA
- No shooters
- No reliable ball-handlers
- Two monkeyballers at starting guard positions, the worst position for monkeyballers

Crazy, I'm intrigued by what he can do if they can swap Granger for a PG and/or more depth, tbh..

100%duncan
05-24-2013, 10:32 PM
Hyping up the Pacers so the Heat looks good. :lol

HI-FI
05-24-2013, 10:32 PM
good coach, i'm a fan. doing a good job against Philibeaner Jackson.

HarlemHeat37
05-24-2013, 10:32 PM
I've been saying Vogel is a top-tier coach all year, tbh..

I also said Indiana was Miami's toughest challenge last year, while half this forum thought :lolKC would beat the Heat out of blind loyalty to the West:lol..

thunderup
05-24-2013, 10:33 PM
On this we agree.

Robz4000
05-24-2013, 10:34 PM
Don't consider him Top 3 or 5 because of his costly slip-ups that always seem to happen at big moments, but the guy can put together a system. He's pretty young too. If he gets more comfortable on the big stage he could be the next big-name coach.

baseline bum
05-24-2013, 10:35 PM
The main reason the Pacers look better this playoffs is that Barbosa is gone tbh

Rogue
05-24-2013, 10:35 PM
Pacers with Hibert in the mid have always been a nightmare to miami since day one imho, and it doesn't mean the Pacers are really that good or shit. give spurs them pacers in the finals and spurs will win it in 5 games. miami are just poorly matched against pacers, and their coach is such an idiot

Killakobe81
05-24-2013, 10:37 PM
Don't consider him Top 3 or 5 because of his costly slip-ups that always seem to happen at big moments, but the guy can put together a system. He's pretty young too. If he gets more comfortable on the big stage he could be the next big-name coach.

This is very true. But he is still young like Spo in 2011 ...

Rogue
05-24-2013, 10:39 PM
the best NBA team hiring the shittiest coach :lol

Killakobe81
05-24-2013, 10:52 PM
An let's not forget Indy choked some in Game 1 ... and in NY series ...
He seems to have a bright future but let's hold off on top 3 talk ...

Killakobe81
05-24-2013, 10:53 PM
1. Pop
2. RC
3. Doc
3. Tibs

All have won it all (tibbs as top assistant) and are better than Vogel ...Spo outcoached him game 1 as well and has a ring.

HarlemHeat37
05-24-2013, 10:55 PM
:lmao Doc Rivers :lmao..

midnightpulp
05-24-2013, 10:55 PM
1. Pop
2. RC
3. Doc
3. Tibs

All have won it all (tibbs as top assistant) and are better than Vogel ...Spo outcoached him game 1 as well and has a ring.

:lol

Fenix
05-24-2013, 10:56 PM
he is the same age as ray allen btw

mercos
05-24-2013, 10:59 PM
I gotta give props for correcting his mistake from game 1. He actually put in Hibbert to close the game, and they got two turnovers down the stretch. A lot of coaches can't get over themselves and admit they were wrong.

Calispursfan11
05-24-2013, 11:01 PM
1-1 against the champions in the ECFs with a team consisting of:

- No consistent go-to guys for shot creation
- One of the worst 3 benches in the NBA
- No shooters
- No reliable ball-handlers
- Two monkeyballers at starting guard positions, the worst position for monkeyballers

Crazy, I'm intrigued by what he can do if they can swap Granger for a PG and/or more depth, tbh.. I want the Heat to go down as much as anyone, but this is premature ejac tbh. Save it for if the Pacers win the next one.

Killakobe81
05-24-2013, 11:02 PM
:lmao Doc Rivers :lmao..

i think he is a good coach. Not sure if he could rang without TT but willing to give him benefit of the doubt. his inbounds plays are just a notch below Pop but he doesnt have as good as offensive talent and he makes it work. Plus i like his ra-rah hoarse voice speeches ...

Killakobe81
05-24-2013, 11:03 PM
I also think PG is not as big a need Hill is serviceable if they get a two guard who can create offense to help Paul G

HarlemHeat37
05-24-2013, 11:07 PM
I'm not a fan of PGs, but George Hill's ball-handling is embarrassing, tbh..

His ideal role is 6th man IMO..Lance Stephenson shouldn't be starting, either..

spurraider21
05-24-2013, 11:35 PM
Hyping up the Pacers so the Heat looks good. :lol
How did he hype them? He just shot on everybody besides the coach

DeadlyDynasty
05-24-2013, 11:36 PM
The most glaring thing you mentioned is the ball-handling. Holy hell...George Hill played well but he looks so uncomfortable out there when pressed. I think Stephenson is a better ball-handler (George definitely is), but he's not a true PG and his decision-making is obviously suspect.

Mugen
05-24-2013, 11:47 PM
Vogel is easily a Top 3-4 coach in the league. Losing Granger helps a lot as well but he's put together a solid gameplan against the Heat.

Pacers have zero fear of Miami and a large part of that is due to Vogel tbh.

DAF86
05-24-2013, 11:54 PM
So I guess what we can all get from this is that the Spurs would give the Heat a hell of a challenge.

-Beast coach.
-Several go to guys
-One of the best bench in the NBA
-Great shooters
-No monkeyballers at guard positions.

:hat

Dingle Barry
05-24-2013, 11:55 PM
I'm not a fan of PGs

You dislike the position?

dunkman
05-24-2013, 11:58 PM
The Pacers are a very good team and a really tough match-up for Miami.

LakerHater
05-25-2013, 12:06 AM
As Hibbert goes so does he.....

Trainwreck2100
05-25-2013, 12:08 AM
money frontline in a conference with jack shit in terms of having teams with quality front lines.

Nathan89
05-25-2013, 12:19 AM
Pacers with Hibert in the mid have always been a nightmare to miami since day one imho, and it doesn't mean the Pacers are really that good or shit. give spurs them pacers in the finals and spurs will win it in 5 games. miami are just poorly matched against pacers, and their coach is such an idiot

Your posts read just like Laterians(not sure how to spell it).

SupremeGuy
05-25-2013, 12:29 AM
1. Pop
2. RC
3. Doc
3. Tibs

All have won it all (tibbs as top assistant) and are better than Vogel ...Spo outcoached him game 1 as well and has a ring.It might be the alcohol but I can't figure out who the fuck RC is for the life of me...

Carlisle, maybe?

Rogue
05-25-2013, 12:41 AM
Your posts read just like Laterians(not sure how to spell it).
like i ever tried to hide it. im too tired to hide it anymore, just like my Scarlett Johansson obssession

DeadlyDynasty
05-25-2013, 12:46 AM
Is blade ever coming back?

Me gusta blade

Rogue
05-25-2013, 01:09 AM
that nigga blade is one of my most successful trolls tbh. hope there's another amnesty day so i can request it back :cry

Lincoln
05-25-2013, 01:37 AM
that nigga blade is one of my most successful trolls tbh. hope there's another amnesty day so i can request it back :cry

I miss frodo tbh

DAF86
05-25-2013, 12:54 PM
blade era mi amigo, lo extraño. :(

AaronY
05-25-2013, 12:59 PM
he is the same age as ray allen btw
Oh..

Rogue
05-25-2013, 10:00 PM
blade escribío muchos posts buenos, él se ha prohibido porque al marido joven no le gustara él :cry

hater
05-26-2013, 09:45 PM
:lmao bump

:lmao great coach

HarlemHeat37
05-26-2013, 09:47 PM
What did he do wrong tonight?..

Mugen
05-26-2013, 09:54 PM
Not putting a hit out on Lance Stephenson between Games 2 & 3 IMO.

Robz4000
05-26-2013, 09:56 PM
Went away from the PnR that was working all series to run ISO for PG tbh.

HarlemHeat37
05-26-2013, 09:56 PM
Indiana is a good team, Miami is a historic team, tbh..

:lol these fans that got their hopes up..

Mugen
05-26-2013, 09:59 PM
:lol Ain't no gameplans against Haslem starting out 5-5 and Bosh raining 3s tbh

racm
05-26-2013, 10:01 PM
:lol Ain't no gameplans against Haslem starting out 5-5 and Bosh raining 3s tbh

Game 3 of last year's WCF, tbh

TIMMYtoZO
05-26-2013, 10:01 PM
:lol Why are people shitting on Vogel? I'd easily take him over Spoelstra's overrated ass. He doesn't even have close to the team Miami has, yet he is not a fantastic coach because he can't beat the best team in the league? :lmao

HarlemHeat37
05-26-2013, 10:02 PM
:lol it's these fans that get their hopes up that the Heat might lose and invest all their fandom in Miami's opponent..

When that opponent inevitably loses, those fans shit on their entire team out of frustration:lol..

These same fans that picked the Celtics, Bulls and Thunder to beat the Heat the past 2 seasons..

Clipper Nation
05-26-2013, 10:03 PM
:lol Haters who aren't even Pacerfans blaming Vogel for the Heat not fulfilling their false hopes and dreams of a loss

DUNCANownsKOBE
05-26-2013, 10:04 PM
:lol it's these fans that get their hopes up that the Heat might lose and invest all their fandom in Miami's opponent..

When that opponent inevitably loses, those fans shit on their entire team out of frustration:lol..

These same fans that picked the Celtics, Bulls and Thunder to beat the Heat the past 2 seasons..
:lol truth bombs

It's why they still talk about the Mavs letting Chandler go. They're so heartbroken that the one team that beat the Heat in a 7 game series wouldn't keep itself together :lol

Clipper Nation
05-26-2013, 10:09 PM
It's why they still talk about the Mavs letting Chandler go. They're so heartbroken that the one team that beat the Heat in a 7 game series wouldn't keep itself together :lol
It's especially funny considering how Chandler's regressed since leaving Dallas, as evident from his horrible performance against Indiana in the playoffs this year :lol

HarlemHeat37
05-26-2013, 10:10 PM
:lol Jacob and Batmanu are gonna go Ted Kaczynski on Lance Stephenson tonight, tbh..

DUNCANownsKOBE
05-26-2013, 10:12 PM
:lol Jacob and Batmanu are gonna go Ted Kaczynski on Lance Stephenson tonight, tbh..
Hopefully Jacob goes Ted Kaczynski on himself afterwards, tbh.

hater
05-26-2013, 10:15 PM
:lol he's just a mediocre coach at the same levels of black coaches IMO

no he's not all to blame, but he really is pretty awful

:lol playing Stephenson so much

dude is a blackhole :lol

midnightpulp
05-26-2013, 10:17 PM
:lol it's these fans that get their hopes up that the Heat might lose and invest all their fandom in Miami's opponent..

When that opponent inevitably loses, those fans shit on their entire team out of frustration:lol..

These same fans that picked the Celtics, Bulls and Thunder to beat the Heat the past 2 seasons..

And I'm seeing that same mentality present with bandwagon Grizzlies fans at the moment, especially on Lakers boards.

Before the series:

"Lionel Hollins is a great coach who should be able to match wits with Pop."

"Z-bo is the best power forward in the league right now. Now way Duncan will outplay him."

"Marc Gasol will lockdown the paint."

"Mike Conley will contain Parker."

"Memphis is peaking. They should win the series in 5 or 6 games."

Now:

"Lionel Hollins is a moron!"

"Zach Randolph is a fat mental midget!"

"Marc Gasol is overrated!"

"Mike Conley sucks and can't stop a chair!"

"Fuckin lucky Spurs got another easy opponent!"

HarlemHeat37
05-26-2013, 10:18 PM
How did he take a team with so many flaws to 2 consecutive deep playoff runs?..

Who do you want ahead of Lance Stephenson?..have you taken a look at their bench?..they have a bottom 3 bench in the NBA..

Robz4000
05-26-2013, 10:20 PM
How did he take a team with so many flaws to 2 consecutive deep playoff runs?..

Who do you want ahead of Lance Stephenson?..have you taken a look at their bench?..they have a bottom 3 bench in the NBA..

To be fair, they do play in the East. That aside, he's a borderline top 5 coach but as I said, he makes head-scratching decisions on the big stage.

hater
05-26-2013, 10:25 PM
East

TD 21
05-26-2013, 10:49 PM
What did he do wrong tonight?..

Fair enough, but he talks the exact same cliche motivational/false bravado nonsense that a lot of "black" coaches (and really, coaches in general) do and it's not like their offense is any more sophisticated than the vast majority of teams, yet he's a "beast coach" and someone like Hollins is an idiot? As is often the case, the truth is they're both somewhere in between.

lefty
05-26-2014, 10:03 PM
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a485/ventiquattro24/lmao-tika_zpsc0d789c4.gif

lefty
05-26-2014, 10:09 PM
HH :lol

Same dude who thinks today's NBA is better and that Lebron shits on Jordan :lol