Latest on Oberto - awaiting Spurs' offer

[Solid D]

Here is an article from an on-line newspaper link I check occasionally. It's got the latest on Oberto. He's in "High" demand in Europe and he's holding teams at bay while he awaits a bid from RC and Pop.

It's from yesterday, July 11, 2005

http://www.lmcba.com.ar/2005/05-07-11/6_podio_16.htm

Lo quieren muchos

Los principales clubes españoles y uno de los más importantes de Italia, están a la caza y se «pelean» por fichar a Fabricio Oberto, quien mantiene como prioridad saltar a la NBA y espera tranquilo.
Tres de los cuatro mejores equipos de España; el campeón Real Madrid, Barcelona y Unicaja Malaga y que disputarán la Euroliga en la próxima campaña, tienen al cordobés como «la figura» a contratar. Mientras Benetton Treviso italiano, que también disputará la Euroliga, es otro de los grandes interesados en el pivote de Las Varillas.
«Oberto es el más deseado» tituló el diario Marca, en su edición del sábado. Los presidentes de los dos clubes más grandes de España, Florentino Pérez (Madrid) y Joan Laporta (Barcelona) dieron la venia y los euros necesarios para ficharlo. El periódico deportivo de la capital española graficó que «El pivote argentino está en letras mayúsculas en las agendas del Barza y Madrid, aunque también el Unicaja y Benetton mantienen sus opciones. Sin embargo, Oberto tiene la intención de probar la NBA y espera una oferta convincente de San Antonio Spurs».
Mientras en Unicaja, su técnico Sergio Scariolo exigió su contratación antes de renovar su contrato y fue promesa de los directivos. Si no ficha a Oberto, Scariolo pensaría dejar el club malagueño, según informó el diario Malaga Hoy.
Cuando Oberto rescindió su contrato con Pamesa Valencia, dijo que su prioridad era la NBA, pero no descarta seguir en el viejo continente, aunque en equipos que disputen la Euroliga.
Espera NBA

Oberto sigue esperando por una propuesta formal de la NBA. La semana pasada, RC Buford, general manager de los Spurs dijo que le interesa, igual que Luis Scola. Los equipos de la Liga estadounidense están dando los primeros pasos, como el fichaje de los mejores agentes libres y después irán por los nuevos jugadores.

Here is the transliterated version with Google translation tool.

http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.lmcba.com.ar/2005/05-07-11/6_podio_16.htm

They want many to it

Main Spanish clubs and one of most important of Italy, are to the hunting and "they are fought" to file to Fabricio Oberto, that maintains as priority to jump to the NBA and hopes calm.
Three of the four better equipment of Spain; the Real champion Madrid, Barcelona and Unicaja Malaga and that will dispute the Euroliga in the next campaign, must to the Cordovan like "the figure" to contract. While Benetton Italian Treviso, that also will dispute the Euroliga, is another one of the great ones interested in the pivot of the Rods.
"Oberto is wished" titled the daily Mark, in its edition of Saturday. The presidents of both greater clubs of Spain, Florentino Perez (Madrid) and Joan Laporta (Barcelona) gave venia and the euros necessary to file it. The sport newspaper of the Spanish capital graficó that "the Argentine pivot is in capital letters in the agendas of the Barza and Madrid, although also the Unicaja and Benetton maintains their options. Nevertheless, Oberto has the intention to prove the NBA and waits for a convincing supply of San Antonio Spurs ".
While in Unicaja, his technician Sergio Scariolo demanded his hiring before renewing his contract and it was promise of the directors. If noncard to Oberto, Scariolo would think to leave to the club malagueño, according to informed the Malaga newspaper Today.
When Oberto terminated its contract with Pamesa Valencia, it said that its priority was the NBA, but does not discard to follow in the old continent, although in equipment that disputes the Euroliga.
It waits for NBA

Oberto continues hoping by a formal proposal of the NBA. The last week, RC Buford, general to manager of the Spurs it said that it interests to him, just as Luis Scola. The equipment of American Liga is taking the first steps, as the draftee of the best free agents and later goes by the new players.

[spurster]

I wonder whether the Spurs are going to play Scola Vs. Oberto, specifically to keep Scola's contract low by threatening to sign Oberto otherwise.

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

Why not:

Use the LLE to sign Oberto

Half of the MLE to sign Scola.

Trade Rasho and Beno for AD

Nazr/Oberto
Tim/Horry/Scola
Bowen/LJ3/Brown
Manu/Brent/Brown
TP/AD/Wilks(?)

IR. Marks or Someone else

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Or use the MLE to sign both Oberto and Scola.

And then use the LLE for someone else. Maybe Big Dog.

[ducks]

sounds like spurs soured on scola

[Marcus Bryant]

Why not:

Use the LLE to sign Oberto

Half of the MLE to sign Scola.

Trade Rasho and Beno for AD


Worst. Trade. Ever.

[constantstate]

Well you'd have to get rid of Nazr or Rasho, if Oberto and Scola come over. I wonder if Spurs equipment general to manager RC, is going to get both of them. That would be one hell of a Spurs equipment.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, it's not quite Bruce for Mike James.

But close.

[Solid D]

That would be one hell of a Spurs equipment.

:lol

This website is from Fabricio's home area so it's going to be focused on him a little more than Luis. Don't construe this to mean that the Spurs have soured on Luis.

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

If Oberto was brought in, you have to trade Rasho. And why not get AD He proved he can play point and run a team.

Him backing up Tony would be sweet.

[constantstate]

Oberto sigue esperando por una propuesta formal de la NBA. La semana pasada, RC Buford, general manager de los Spurs dijo que le interesa, igual que Luis Scola.
Oberto continues to wait for a formal proposal from the NBA. This past week, RC Buford, general manager of the Spurs said he was interested in him, AS WELL as Luis Scola.

I dont think that means anything, except that he'd like to join the Spurs if possible. (if they offer him a contract)

[Solid D]

Oberto continues to wait for a formal proposal from the NBA. This past week, RC Buford, general manager of the Spurs said he was interested in him, AS WELL as Luis Scola.

I dont think that means anything, except that he'd like to join the Spurs if possible. (if they offer him a contract)

Exactly.

[ducks]

why would ad want to play back up when he can start on other teams?

[Marcus Bryant]

If Oberto is down with the possibilty of wearing street clothes a lot next season, come on over.

[timvp]

I'm not sure how Scola and Oberto would work on this team. You'd have to let Massenburg go and trade Rasho for a small ... and then one of either Scola or Oberto will be the 12th man.

C Nazr/Oberto
PF Duncan/Horry/Scola
SF Bowen/Brown
SG Ginobili/Barry
PG Parker/Udrih

That's 11. Then you'd have room for either a long three (GRob, JJames, Kukoc) or a third point guard.





Hmmmm ... but that's not counting who the Spurs trade Rasho for.

[spurschick]

I'm not sure how Scola and Oberto would work on this team. You'd have to let Massenburg go and trade Rasho for a small ... and then one of either Scola or Oberto will be the 12th man.

C Nazr/Oberto
PF Duncan/Horry/Scola
SF Bowen/Brown
SG Ginobili/Barry
PG Parker/Udrih

That's 11. Then you'd have room for either a long three (GRob, JJames, Kukoc) or a third point guard.
Hmmmm ... but that's not counting who the Spurs trade Rasho for.

:wow I really like this lineup! You know that both Oberto and Scola are hard workers - this could be one helluva bench.

[E20]

How big is Oberto, both Scola and Oberto are unproven in the NBA so people should stop jumping to conclusions.

[SUNDVOLD 20]

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease bring in Scola and Oberto! Have you people seen what these incredible players can do??????????????? Lets talk about a bench from hell.....Barry,Oberto,Scola,Daniels,brown........a nd the usual starting 5?????????? can you say dynasty????? I have watched both Scola and Oberto play in the World Championship in Indianapolis and the olympics and was at least salivating at the fact that Scola will one year be a spur, but now Oberto???????? If we get both players I will crap out monkeys!!!!! Nobody realizes how f***!#* great these spurs will be, the only player the spurs will be missing is Nocioni....R.C. is a schmuck for not locking him up!!!!!!Ill take a Fabricio Oberto over a Radnosoft Nesterovich anyday!!!!! :elephant

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Google's translation was harder to read than the Spanish version. . .and I don't speak Spanish!!

[Chris]

cross your fingers

[ace3g]

the only player the spurs will be missing is Nocioni....R.C. is a schmuck for not locking him up!!!!!!Ill

It wasnt RC's fault for not signing Nocioni, the spurs scouting team knew about him and very interested in Nocioni but were given wrong information about his eligibility and no one drafted him. The person on the scouting team that made the mistake was later fired

[ducks]

I think it is scola or him not both

[spvrs]

Google's translation was harder to read than the Spanish version. . .and I don't speak Spanish!!
seriously!

can someone translate the google translator?

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm not sure how Scola and Oberto would work on this team. You'd have to let Massenburg go and trade Rasho for a small ... and then one of either Scola or Oberto will be the 12th man.

C Nazr/Oberto
PF Duncan/Horry/Scola
SF Bowen/Brown
SG Ginobili/Barry
PG Parker/Udrih

That's 11. Then you'd have room for either a long three (GRob, JJames, Kukoc) or a third point guard.





Hmmmm ... but that's not counting who the Spurs trade Rasho for.


Yeah, if the Spurs are able to trade Radoslav for a 3 that would work well. A Rasho for Battier trade would seem quite nice, but Battier is a BYC player.

[ducks]

what did this dude average last year

[Gummi]

I'm sure that Oberto won't commend more then the LLE. He's got experience and knows how to play TEAM basketball.

I'm not sure if the Spurs would bring both him and Scola, but I hope they do. If Oberto accepts playing limited minutes and possibly take Massenburg's minutes, I'm for it.

[spurster]

Right now, the Spurs are paying 4 bigs more than the min: TD, Rasho, Nazr, and Horry. If Scola comes, that will be 5. I do not think Oberto comes for the min, and I do not think the Spurs will pay 6 bigs more than min money.

[Athenea]

Many wants him.

The most important Spanish clubs and one of the most predominant from Italy are targeting and “fighting” to land Fabricio Oberto, whose main priority is making the NBA while he calmly waits.
Three of the four best teams in Spain (Champs Real Madrid, Barcelona and Unicaja Malaga) and which be participating in the Euroleague next season, have the “cordobes” (Oberto) as “the star” to hire. Meanwhile Italian Benetton Treviso, which is also playing the Euroleague, is one of the most interested on Oberto.
“Oberto is the most wanted” was the headline of Marca newspaper, last Saturday. Presidents Florentino Perez (Madrid) and Joan Laporta (Barcelona) agreed and provided the euros required to sign him. The same sports newspaper added “The Argentinean forward is atop of Barza and Madrid’s agenda as well as Unicaja and Benetton’s. However Oberto is fully intended to try the NBA and is waiting a convincing offer from San Antonio Spurs”.
Unicaja’s HC Sergio Scariolo demanded Oberto staying before his re-signing and that was promised by the club managers. Otherwise Scariolo might leave the club, according to “Malaga Hoy” (newspaper).
When Oberto left Pamesa Valencia, said his priority was the NBA, but staying in Europe is a possibility on teams taking part in the Euroleague. He is waiting for the NBA.
Oberto hopes for a formal proposal. Last week RC Buford, Spurs GM, said that he was interested on him and Luis Scola. NBA teams are just starting their off season moves by signing the best free agents and then they’ll go after new players.

[timvp]

If he'll accept the LLE ... welcome aboard.

[ducks]

if scola does not come I give half the mle to him the other half to big dog
or the mle to big dog the lle to him

[ducks]

rasho is gone

[ducks]

sean marks is gone

[Russ]

I always had the impression that Oberto was better than Scola. I believe he is much older though. Maybe he'll take less realizing this is his last chance to play in the NBA, especially to play with Manu.

[drivanroca]

I always had the impression that Oberto was better than Scola. I believe he is much older though. Maybe he'll take less realizing this is his last chance to play in the NBA, especially to play with Manu.

Yeah, me too.

Scola and Oberto??? mmm... Not both.

[spurschick]

I always had the impression that Oberto was better than Scola. I believe he is much older though. Maybe he'll take less realizing this is his last chance to play in the NBA, especially to play with Manu.

Oberto is only 2 years older than Manu. Scola is 3 years younger.

[Dave McNulla]

i thought teams could have 14 on the active roster this year? wasn't that in the collective bargaining agreement?

i found it:
All Sports (http://www.allsports.com/cgi-bin/showstory.cgi?story_id=54664)

"We were not looking to develop this complete minor league system a la baseball, where you have the right to keep someone down for three times or long durations," Stern said. "It was about true development for us."

A player sent to the NBDL will count against the team's NBA roster, which will remain at 15 players. But rosters are guaranteed to be at a minimum of 14 players - 12 active - and there will no need to "stash" players on an injured list.

[milkyway21]

hey! i like this player-he's a good scorer. Enjoyed his moves while watching the World, Olympic Qualifying and Olympic games with Manu.

why can't we just sign Oberto, then retain Rasho? I think it'll take him more than a few months to get into the Spurs system.

Sign Scola or Oberto.
i don't think signing both Scola & Oberto at the same time is the right move. We'll have two players new to the team, there's too much to learn for them to get adjusted...remember what Horry said, the Spurs have about 1,000 setplays in the playbook...:D

[Gummi]

From what I've seen of Oberto is that he's a hard nosed player. Physical and doesn't back down as Rasho does.

If the Spurs can find a team that's ready to take Rasho and send a quality player back or picks, then do it. Oberto IS NOT WORSE then Rasho, that's for sure. So if Oberto doesn't play up to standard or has a hard time adjusting the NBA game, then it's better to have a strugling backup center that makes $2 million then $7 million.

[milkyway21]

I'm sorry as much as I want to sign players from Olympic Champs Argentina, I still want The Spurs to retain Rasho right now.

Maybe next yr. if we can see how these new recruits fit in the Spurs system.

[Mr. Body]

If they want Oberto, it's to replace Rasho in all likelihood. Which means they think he can check Shaq in spot minutes (and/or they can outscore/take care of Miami in other ways).

There's absolutely no reason to think interest in Oberto means Scola is out. In fact, it suggests otherwise.

I disagree with those above thinking Oberto will be the better player in the NBA. I feel that will be Scola.

I truly hope we bring both over. They rock the flowing-scraggly locks of hair school of basketball even better than Nash.

Note: Is there a chance this is simply an Argentine homer site not really considering Oberto could go elsewhere other than the new-favorite San Antonio Spurs?

[milkyway21]

Note: Is there a chance this is simply an Argentine homer site not really considering Oberto could go elsewhere other than the new-favorite San Antonio Spurs?if Manu could influence Rasho in signing with the Spurs(Rasho called him before he agreed to sign with the team), there's a big chance the Argentineans sign with this team, esp Scola who is his best friend. :angel

[Mark in Austin]

If you need to fill the Massenberg/Marks role, might is well be with somebody that understands motion offenses well. Smart passing big men aren't easy to find for the LLE.

[WalterBenitez]

Well you'd have to get rid of Nazr or Rasho, if Oberto and Scola come over. I wonder if Spurs equipment general to manager RC, is going to get both of them. That would be one hell of a Spurs equipment.

If Spurs have to trade anyone of Nazr or Rasho, Sorry Rasho ... but I see more future in Nazr.

[beirmeistr]

if Manu could influence Rasho in signing with the Spurs(Rasho called him before he agreed to sign with the team), there's a big chance the Argentineans sign with this team, esp Scola who is his best friend. :angel
I was not aware of this story before reading it in this post (the rasho part).

[GhostofAlfrederickHughes]

Google's translation was harder to read than the Spanish version. . .and I don't speak Spanish!!
"Nevertheless, Oberto has the intention to prove the NBA and waits for a convincing supply of San Antonio Spurs ".

Pinches gringos de Google! Es obvio que no hablan espanol!

[spvrs]

Athenea many thanks for the translation. well done.

IF we could dump Rasho for anything and have Scola and Oberto this would be tremendous. Would there be a team with better passing than: Duncan, Scola, Oberto, Manu, Barry.... all those guys are sweet

GO RC!!!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

We should just get it over with and sign the Argentinian National Team, the whole team, add Tony, Bowen, and Duncan to it, bring in Magnano to run the offense, and let the good times commence :lol

[waly.mg]

Hey guys

Do you know how Scola or Oberto are playing?

Scola and Oberto together beat not one time, twice the Dream Team as the Big guys, that´s is both beat, Ben Wallace, Tim Duncan, Jermaine, Amare and Odom

Is that enough?

Can Rasho beat them, or Nazr?

[waly.mg]

If Spurs have to trade anyone of Nazr or Rasho, Sorry Rasho ... but I see more future in Nazr.

Remember, the Ramadan

We need one Big Man when Nazr is in the ramadan

[waly.mg]

There are more possibilities than both will play in San Antonio that no of the 2 plays

[kskonn]

if Manu could influence Rasho in signing with the Spurs(Rasho called him before he agreed to sign with the team), there's a big chance the Argentineans sign with this team, esp Scola who is his best friend. :angel


He does not have to convince Scola, the spurs own his rights so they either trade them, sign him, or not use them.

Oberto I am not sure about.

[Rummpd]

Damm Spurs are going to be strong whoever they end up with = full pot of upside!

[spurster]

I do not see the Spurs trading Rasho unless

1) They can take a shorter-term salary back. Part of the motivation behind the Malik-Nazr trade was that Nazr's contract will end sooner.

2) They can ensure that they resign Nazr or get someone of comparable ability. If the Spurs trade Rasho now and Nazr leaves after next season, the Spurs will only have the MLE to go after a center. Maybe Scola and/or Oberto can fill in, but they are NBA unknowns.

[Mark in Austin]

We should just get it over with and sign the Argentinian National Team, the whole team, add Tony, Bowen, and Duncan to it, bring in Magnano to run the offense, and let the good times commence :lol


There you go. And even if they didn't sign the whole team, they could bring in Magnano and sign Legolas (Walter Herrmann) as the future Bowen replacement, too.


:lol

[hendrix]

We should just get it over with and sign the Argentinian National Team, the whole team, add Tony, Bowen, and Duncan to it, bring in Magnano to run the offense, and let the good times commence :lol
:lol
But remember... Magnano is from Argentina... he'll kick TP for another PG. :lol
Tony is the :devil
:lol

[Notorious H.O.P.]

Posted this in another thread but it's probably more relevant here.

In the Oberto AND Scola scenario, Rasho has to be the one out (not that I want that). Duncan and Horry aren't going anywhere, the Spurs see a lot of potential in Nazr's aggressiveness and they aren't going to bring in both Oberto and Scola unless they plan on giving them some minutes. This could be the time you could get something good back for Rasho since you're trading a big for a small and some team that is size challenged could send the Spurs the long 3 they've been looking for.

But in the end, training camp will decide on the Nazr/Rasho ranking. I wouldn't count Rasho out just yet although it doesn't look too good sometimes. Rasho will benefit from having better hands, passing skills and defensive positioning. But if Nazr can pick up the defensive rotations and increase his aggressiveness on the offensive side and rebounding, he'll take it rather easily.

[ALVAREZ6]

:wow I really like this lineup! You know that both Oberto and Scola are hard workers - this could be one helluva bench.
Especially since Manu, Scola, and Oberto have been playing together for many years...pop can just put all of them in and let them dominate.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I think it will be EITHER Scola or Oberto, not both, but damn I'm having flashbacks of Argentina cutting people up with their motion O in the Olympics with those three on the floor at the same time.

:drunk

[vanvannen]

Bringing both Scola & Oberto won't happen. I wouldn't trade Rasho either, I like the guy and he is a good defender.
Besides, I wouldn't bring to international not proven at NBA level players to a potential dinasty team. Too risky... :nope

[nkdlunch]

Oberto > Rasho???

I don't know. I'd like to think so.

[spvrs]

I wouldn't bring to international not proven at NBA level players to a potential dinasty team. Too risky...

Rasho played exactly 16 seconds in the playoffs and we won it all... I see it about as risky as cutting Marks...

[temple.of.the.dog]

I've heard tell that these foreign players do something called "pass the ball". That sounds like some kind of euro-nonsense offense. I hear they also play with a square ball and that the hoop stands just 2 feet tall. To me, thats just too unproven for the nba.

Scola and Oberto sound like they would be perfect playing in the Spurs new run and gun / motion offense. (at least they're used to it) but I doubt very much they'd bring in Oberto without knowing what they're going to do with either Nazr or Rasho? (one or the other)

[vanvannen]

Rasho played exactly 16 seconds in the playoffs and we won it all... I see it about as risky as cutting Marks...

Seems you forgot about all 82 of the regular season games. Rasho has been useful for this team. Let's be a little less ungrateful.

[T Park]

We need one Big Man when Nazr is in the ramadan

of course.

Let guess, the Spurs need, OBERTO

of course.

A center thats neer played in the NBA before who is almost 30 and no one knows how good he is.

Of course, replace your starting NBA Finals center with him.

[T Park]

Rasho played exactly 16 seconds in the playoffs

and how many games in the regular season to set them up for the playoffs??

Afraid to tell you genius, Rasho doesnt hurt his ankle VS the Clippers on that day in April, he starts for the whole playoffs.

[spvrs]

Seems you forgot about all 82 of the regular season games. Rasho has been useful for this team. Let's be a little less ungrateful.

Playoffs count, no awards for the best regular season record. Was he really any good in the regular season anyway?

[T Park]

Was he really any good in the regular season anyway?

let me guess, if he didnt put up 15 and 10 he sucked right...


His defense wasn't shit right?

Typical ignorant moron.

[spvrs]

and how many games in the regular season to set them up for the playoffs??

Afraid to tell you genius, Rasho doesnt hurt his ankle VS the Clippers on that day in April, he starts for the whole playoffs.

good point chicken little... I know how you love sticking by your team and all but you notice how Rasho played last year in the playoffs? Nazr was here for like half the year and Pop STILL didn't play Rasho at all after he was healthy...

we don't need a 7 million per year guy averaging 2 minutes and .0001 points and rebounds per game

[spvrs]

let me guess, if he didnt put up 15 and 10 he sucked right...

damn a year goes by quick!

I'd rather be hearing from 'T Park.'...

I count wins and losses I don't care about stats. Why doesn't this legendary defense translate into wins?

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

let me guess, if he didnt put up 15 and 10 he sucked right...


His defense wasn't shit right?

Typical ignorant moron.

Look at his check statements bitch then ask if the numbers he's putting up are worth it.

Bring someone who will fucking produce for that amount.

[T Park]

ou notice how Rasho played last year in the playoffs? Nazr was hear for like half the year and Pop didn't play Rasho at all...


what about him, in the first two games Rasho played Shaquille O'Neal about as good as your gonna play him.

Name me a player that can DEFEND Shaq better? Oh yeah Oberto.. :rolleyes

Once again, Ill take Pop's opinion of a player over yours

[T Park]

Look at his check statements bitch then ask if the numbers he's putting up are worth it.

Bring someone who will fucking produce for that amount.



For a starting center in the NBA what he gets paid is market to below market value "bitch"

His defense against the top centers in the league is bar none, PERIOD.


Go back to jacking off to your justin timberlake poster next to your drawing of a dog park on the alamodome parking lot freak.

[spvrs]

Once again, Ill take Pop's opinion of a player over yours

since when did you hold your opinion for Pop's? you think pop thought his team gave up? you think pop started sucking his thumb and cr@pped in his diapers...

Frankly I'll be happy with whatever Pop and RC decide, I agree... they have alot more info than I do... just my opinion

[T Park]

Why doesn't this legendary defense translate into wins?
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It does you moron, you watch one game that Nesterovic plays in??

He practically helped the Spurs win a game in April against the Rockets thanks to his second half defense on Yao Ming.

[spvrs]

what about him, in the first two games Rasho played Shaquille O'Neal about as good as your gonna play him.


you know it's best of 7 right... not first to 2 games wins. They got lucky and fronted shaq and it worked for a little bit. I think timvp said it but it stuck...
the next momentum changing block rasho makes will be his first

[T Park]

they have alot more info than I do... just my opinion
[QUOTE]
yeah popovich thinks Nesterovic is fantastic, what do you think of that genius.

[spvrs]

WOW Rasho had 1 good game... BFD.

The guy SUCKS... serioulsy... .I could play with Duncan at center and get his stats...

[T Park]

They got lucky and fronted shaq and it worked for a little bit

But I thought Rasho didnt do anything though.....

[spvrs]

WTF are you talking about??? I think Oberto getting paid 2 million a year would be about 11024 times better than the towel boy at center... and the towel boy > Rasho.

so you know what CIA pop thinks right?

You realize we won the championship right? didn't the blubbering, chicken little , pussy statement like you made say somethign about that?

[T Park]

I think Oberto getting paid 2 million a year would be about 11024 times better than the towel boy at center

He wants someone to fill Massenburg, maybe even Mark's role.

Whats your point.

Nesterovic, more than likely will be the second big off the bench next year after Horry.

Popovich likes him for his defense and the stuff you rotisserie geeks dont see.

[waly.mg]

what about him, in the first two games Rasho played Shaquille O'Neal about as good as your gonna play him.

Name me a player that can DEFEND Shaq better? Oh yeah Oberto.. :rolleyes

Once again, Ill take Pop's opinion of a player over yours

No one in the NBA

Probably Rasho can defend better than Oberto, but Shaq vs Rasho is aprox. -20 Points, probably 25-5, but Oberto can score so if Oberto score 10 points Shaq needs 30

[T Park]

Since when did Robert Horry because of center?

huh? English translation please?



The only time your bastard lover got into the game was when Nazr was in foul trouble or Horry got tired of making clutch shots.

Otherwise you were always out of luck and could only jerk off to Rasho when he was on camera going to commerical

uh yeah. Thats what I just got done saying.

Horry played the majority of the minutes and Mohammed's minutes went down cause he was playing terrible.

WTF is your point Buddy Timberlake?

[T Park]

but Oberto can score so if Oberto score 10 points Shaq needs 30


when did Oberto score in the NBA??

Link please?



Malik traded for a fucking bad contract.

Rasho will be traded for a fucking bad contract.

We just need a team as dumb as TPark who would take on such a bad contract.

I'm sure RC has the Knicks on speed dial.

Once again, other than a pathetic attempt at insulting me, what is your point please.

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[Buddy Holly]

Ah man, Spurodamus, I loved your other one, why'd you change? Why'd it go away!

Rock and roll will never die!

[Kori Ellis]

TPark and Badly Drawn Boy, you both are so lame it's incredible.

BDB, when you stole (yes, stole - plagiarizing is stealing (webster definition (http://webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=+Plagiarize))) Slomo's pictures and posted them on the NSYNC board, you set yourself up for a lifetime of internet ridicule.

TPark, when you bailed on the Spurs repeatedly and then had the lamest excuse of reverse psychology, you did the same. But you both are to the point of being embarrassing in this thread.

I understand it's hot outside and you guys both probably rarely (never?) get laid (see, I can play the immature insult game too), so you guys are both irritable. But it's time for both of you to back away from the keyboard and mellow out.

Every squabble on this board that's not basketball related (and this one isn't) involves one (or both) of you two.

I suggest you both simmer down. I hate wasting my time deleting posts. This isn't a joke to me anymore.

Thanks.

[Jdspur20]

so, who's bigger scola or oberto?