Weakest team to win Western Conference in 30+ years

[Homeland Security]

The Spurs took advantage of a weak West, an injured Russell Westbrook, and lucky draws (7-6-5 seeds), to be the worst team to emerge from the West since the 1981 Rockets.

2012 -- Thunder: good team, 3 elite players, beat Lakers and overhyped Spurs team
2011 -- Mavericks: won championship over elite Miami team
2010 -- Lakers: champs, self-explanatory
2009 -- Lakers: see 2010
2008 -- Lakers: great team, lost to greater Boston team
2007 -- Spurs: benefited from #1 seed Dallas losing and questionable suspensions against Phx, but overall decent
2006 -- Mavs: should have won championship but refs intervened
2005 -- Spurs: beat champion Pistons
2004 -- Lakers: 4 Hall-of-Famers
2003 -- Spurs: backed into Finals because of depleted Lakers, injuries to C-Webb, Dirk, but they were a 1 seed
2002 -- Lakers: greatness
2001 -- Lakers: super-greatness
2000 -- Lakers: greatness
1999 -- Spurs: benefited from 50-game season, but had Twin Towers
1998 -- Jazz: peak of Stockton-Malone era
1997 -- Jazz: see 1998
1996 -- Sonics: 64-18 team would have won most years, but ran into 72-10 Bulls
1995 -- Rockets: beat 3, 2, and 1 seeds in order
1994 -- Rockets: won championships, Hakeem was best center of his era
1993 -- Suns: Barkley-led team gave Bulls all they wanted
1992 -- Blazers: ultra-loaded team
1991 -- Lakers: greatness
1990 -- Blazers: see 1992
1989 -- Lakers: greatness despite injury
1988, 87 -- Lakers: greatness
1986 -- Rockets: upset great Lakers team, had original and best Twin Towers
1985, 84, 83, 82 -- Lakers: greatness
1981 -- Rockets: 40-42. I agree this team was worse than the 2013 Spurs.

So the 2013 Spurs are a testament to how far the West has fallen and how lacking it is in depth behind Oklahoma City. The only way Miami doesn't sweep 4-0 is if the Heat get bored.

[EJFischer]

Huh. Now I know how Wizards fans spend their time during the postseason.

[moisaenz]

Yeah and the east is so powerful at the moment..

[look_at_g_shred]

:wakeup

[greensborohill]

nice troll job, guy. . .

[George Gervin's Afro]

why is this even a thread? this needs to be locked to stop the stupidity from spreading..

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

How many times have the Wizards won the Eastern Conference? :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

[Mel_13]

Nine days until Game 1. Plenty of stupidity is bound to ensue in this forum.

[elbamba]

lol under .500 Bucks
lol Bulls playing with four players
lol Indiana in the ECF
lol Wizards can't make the playoffs in the past 10 years with some of the weakest teams of all time.
lol the point guard whose name no one remembers and they mix up with Kyle Irving.

[DejuanorwhatDude]

The Spurs took advantage of a weak West, an injured Russell Westbrook, and lucky draws (7-6-5 seeds), to be the worst team to emerge from the West since the 1981 Rockets.

2012 -- Thunder: good team, 3 elite players, beat Lakers and overhyped Spurs team
2011 -- Mavericks: won championship over elite Miami team
2010 -- Lakers: champs, self-explanatory
2009 -- Lakers: see 2010
2008 -- Lakers: great team, lost to greater Boston team
2007 -- Spurs: benefited from #1 seed Dallas losing and questionable suspensions against Phx, but overall decent
2006 -- Mavs: should have won championship but refs intervened
2005 -- Spurs: beat champion Pistons
2004 -- Lakers: 4 Hall-of-Famers
2003 -- Spurs: backed into Finals because of depleted Lakers, injuries to C-Webb, Dirk, but they were a 1 seed
2002 -- Lakers: greatness
2001 -- Lakers: super-greatness
2000 -- Lakers: greatness
1999 -- Spurs: benefited from 50-game season, but had Twin Towers
1998 -- Jazz: peak of Stockton-Malone era
1997 -- Jazz: see 1998
1996 -- Sonics: 64-18 team would have won most years, but ran into 72-10 Bulls
1995 -- Rockets: beat 3, 2, and 1 seeds in order
1994 -- Rockets: won championships, Hakeem was best center of his era
1993 -- Suns: Barkley-led team gave Bulls all they wanted
1992 -- Blazers: ultra-loaded team
1991 -- Lakers: greatness
1990 -- Blazers: see 1992
1989 -- Lakers: greatness despite injury
1988, 87 -- Lakers: greatness
1986 -- Rockets: upset great Lakers team, had original and best Twin Towers
1985, 84, 83, 82 -- Lakers: greatness
1981 -- Rockets: 40-42. I agree this team was worse than the 2013 Spurs.

So the 2013 Spurs are a testament to how far the West has fallen and how lacking it is in depth behind Oklahoma City. The only way Miami doesn't sweep 4-0 is if the Heat get bored.

John Wall is your future.

[TE]

Extra Stout forgot to login into his Kool account.

[SpursChampsIII]

Dang, it must be tough on you this time every month, huh sissy?

[Sean Cagney]

Have fun with your lottery again this year lol.

[manufan10]

But they're there, and that's all that matters. :toast

[buttsR4rebounding]

You are an idiot. Last year took an off-the-charts effort by Ibaka and Perkins going 21 of 24 primarily on jump shots to including Ibaka going 11 of 11 and one of the worst officiated games in last year's playoffs in game 6 to stop the Spurs from going to the Finals. 2008 the Spurs were clearly better than the Mavs. They shot 50 free throws in game one of that series in San Antonio. Even then it took Manu's brain fart in game 7 to lose. Miami will have no answer for Parker plus Duncan will probably average close to 20 and 15 for the series. Miami may win, but no way they can sweep the Spurs.

[Homeland Security]

Yeah and the east is so powerful at the moment..
The likely Eastern champion won 66 games, including 27 in a row at one point, and features one of the 5 greatest players of all time at his absolute peak.

[Homeland Security]

How many times have the Wizards won the Eastern Conference? :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
3 times as the Bullets. I wouldn't expect you to have the intelligence to know that.

[George Gervin's Afro]

why is this even a thread? this needs to be locked to stop the stupidity from spreading..

[DejuanorwhatDude]

3 times as the Bullets. I wouldn't expect you to have the intelligence to know that.

John Wall is your future.

[Homeland Security]

You are an idiot. Last year took an off-the-charts effort by Ibaka and Perkins going 21 of 24 primarily on jump shots to including Ibaka going 11 of 11 and one of the worst officiated games in last year's playoffs in game 6 to stop the Spurs from going to the Finals. 2008 the Spurs were clearly better than the Mavs. They shot 50 free throws in game one of that series in San Antonio. Even then it took Manu's brain fart in game 7 to lose. Miami will have no answer for Parker plus Duncan will probably average close to 20 and 15 for the series. Miami may win, but no way they can sweep the Spurs.
This is definitely a Spurs fan. Can't even tell the difference between 2008 and 2006.

[Homeland Security]

John Wall is your future.

What does John Wall have to do with the Spurs' being the worst Western Conference "champion" since the Space Shuttle first launched?

[moisaenz]

The likely Eastern champion won 66 games, including 27 in a row at one point, and features one of the 5 greatest players of all time at his absolute peak.

Ok. You compare one team Spurs to its conference to validate the West is weak, then your answer that the East is strong is only the record of one team?

If Miami played in the West they wouldn't have won that many games, everybody knows that... The west is weaker but east still the weakest.

[TampaDude]

http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/da036c1e6016f54d00887907c82f6059/http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii375/Trueflame08/unsuccessful-troll.jpg

[davidbowie]

who gives a shit about any of this

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

Best part of being a Spurs fan = get to watch the Spurs play in the NBA Finals on June 6

Best part of being a Wizards fan = get to watch the Spurs play in the NBA Finals on June 6

[rjv]

last time wiz (or the formerly named bullets that had to change name due to the incredible homicide rate of the city) won a title was when carter was president. nice.

[RD2191]

:lmao

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

I'll give credit to the thread poster for this, though: It takes courage to be a Wizards fan and yet try to talk trash to fans of a team that's in the NBA Finals.

[Homeland Security]

Ok. You compare one team Spurs to its conference to validate the West is weak, then your answer that the East is strong is only the record of one team?

If Miami played in the West they wouldn't have won that many games, everybody knows that... The west is weaker but east still the weakest.
Miami against the East: 41-11 .788
Miami against the West: 25-5 .833

Fail.

[RD2191]

The so called beast from the east played a losing record bucks team and a rose-less injury depleted bulls team, not impressed at all.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Augusto Pinochet presents the template for what the next leaders of America should be like.

your signature says it all

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

Thread was good for a laugh, but let's just stop feeding the troll.

[TampaDude]

FWIW, the ECF ain't over yet. Yeah, Miami will likely win the ECF in 5, but it's just 2-1 right now. If the Pacers win tonight, look out.

[wut]

this smells of butthurt Lakers fan; No other team benefited from ANY injuries or questionable calls, right? Lakers vs Blazers 2000 game 7, Lakers vs Kings 2002 game 6

[Homeland Security]

The so called beast from the east played a losing record bucks team and a rose-less injury depleted bulls team, not impressed at all.
It won't get any more impressive when they beat the worst Western Conference champion in 30+ years. They'll have to take solace in having beaten a fantastic Indiana team, and the back-to-back nature of the title.

[polandprzem]

:wrongf

[RD2191]

It won't get any more impressive when they beat the worst Western Conference champion in 30+ years. They'll have to take solace in having beaten a fantastic Indiana team, and the back-to-back nature of the title.
:lmao lay off the crack, buddy

[Homeland Security]

this smells of butthurt Lakers fan; No other team benefited from ANY injuries or questionable calls, right? Lakers vs Blazers 2000 game 7, Lakers vs Kings 2002 game 6
I am a die-hard fan of the Washington Wizards, just like my profile says.

[moisaenz]

Miami against the East: 41-11 .788
Miami against the West: 25-5 .833

Fail.

you are a dumb troll... how can you compare data from playing 30 games against one conference to playing 52..... Besides Miami got 41 wins against a conference where not even the #2 seed would have playoffs homecourt advantage in the West.

[TampaDude]

this smells of butthurt Lakers fan; No other team benefited from ANY injuries or questionable calls, right? Lakers vs Blazers 2000 game 7, Lakers vs Kings 2002 game 6

Lakers vs Spurs 2008 Game 4. The NBA even stated that it should have been a foul on Fisher.

[Homeland Security]

I notice nobody has been able to argue that any of the past 30+ Western champions are worse than the 2013 Spurs. All I've heard is that the East is weak too, that Serge Ibaka once hit a bunch of jump shots, and that the Wizards suck.

So it is firmly established that the 2013 Spurs are the worst team to win the Western Conference in 30+ years.

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

A bit of advice for you:

Trolling is best done in a subtle manner. You're being too obvious. It takes skill and you're just a bit of a rookie at this profession so far.

You'll be better at it with practice, just like the Wizards may get better with practice.


You're welcome.

[moisaenz]

I notice nobody has been able to argue that any of the past 30+ Western champions are worse than the 2013 Spurs. All I've heard is that the East is weak too, that Serge Ibaka once hit a bunch of jump shots, and that the Wizards suck.

So it is firmly established that the 2013 Spurs are the worst team to win the Western Conference in 30+ years.
The Spurs are the worst West Champion in 30 years. Move along then.

[CitizenDwayne]

I am a die-hard fan of the Washington Wizards, just like my profile says.

Must be a sad life.

[Homeland Security]

A bit of advice for you:

Trolling is best done in a subtle manner. You're being too obvious. It takes skill and you're just a bit of a rookie at this profession so far.

You'll be better at it with practice, just like the Wizards may get better with practice.


You're welcome.

34 responses in 40 minutes.

[Homeland Security]

Must be a sad life.

I dab my tears with 100 dollar bills.

[Man In Black]

So how many games can the Spurs win against the Heat there Kevin Grevey?

[crc21209]

Sup, how's WizardsTalk.com? Oh wait...:lol

[houston spurs fan]

I dab my tears with 100 dollar bills.
Nice one Floyd Pacquiao, you racist.

[wut]

It's funny that people don't give the Spurs any credit. If Heat sweep a team, it's because the Heat are just that good. Spurs sweep a team, it's because their competition is weak. Heat played the Bucks (lulz wut) and Bulls (without their star) and now actually have to play a halfway decent team in the Pacers (who would've been 6th seed in the West).

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I notice nobody has been able to argue that any of the past 30+ Western champions are worse than the 2013 Spurs. All I've heard is that the East is weak too, that Serge Ibaka once hit a bunch of jump shots, and that the Wizards suck.

So it is firmly established that the 2013 Spurs are the worst team to win the Western Conference in 30+ years.

Spurs are 12-2 this postseason. Best ratio of all the other 4.

So using your logic, this team is worse than any of the other 4, including the 2005's which happened to beat the Pistons at their peak after having dismantled the chokejob 2004 Lakers.

Following good logic, however, one can infer that the SPurs are actually dominating this postseason like never before.

Keep trolling

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

If the Spurs are a weak Western Conference winner, then the Wizards are a strong 29-53 Eastern Conference basement dweller.

[HI-FI]

sup Extra Stout.

[spurspokesman]

Good teams are supposed to take advantage of breaks and weaker teams. Weak take tbh

[Man In Black]

Also,

If you really want to go there...You're missing some FACTS.
2012 -- Thunder: good team, 3 elite players, beat Lakers and overhyped Spurs team(gifted Game 5)
2011 -- Mavericks: won championship over elite Miami team
2010 -- Lakers: champs, self-explanatory(First Lakers team to not get Phil a 3peat. That's why the hat says ELEVEN and not TWELVE because the Lakers of 2011 sucked against Dallas.)
2009 -- Lakers: see 2010(Beat a weaker Boston team, does the Kendrick Perkins knee injury ring a bell?)
2008 -- Lakers: great team, lost to greater Boston team(Benefitted from a great start in game 1, a game where the Spurs had to sleep on the tarmac because of plane issue in New Orleans)
2007 -- Spurs: benefited from #1 seed Dallas losing and questionable suspensions against Phx, but overall decent
2006 -- Mavs: should have won championship but refs intervened
2005 -- Spurs: beat champion Pistons
2004 -- Lakers: 4 Hall-of-Famers (that proceeded to lose what amounts a 5 game sweep to the Pistons. Benefit from a time keeper with a slow hand that was brought in by the NBA. Remember, the staffing changes for time keeper once the playoffs start.)
2003 -- Spurs: backed into Finals because of depleted Lakers, injuries to C-Webb, Dirk, but they were a 1 seed(Depleted how, they were all together, plus the Spurs weren't even a designated threat, I mean an Argentine player by way of Italy, a difference maker?)
2002 -- Lakers: greatness
2001 -- Lakers: super-greatness(It's funny how you don't talk about the fact that Juwan Howard took out the Spurs Starting Shooting Guard and that their starter at point guard was an old, old man in Terry Porter and Sean ****** came back AFTER a kidney replacement) But sure...greatness.
2000 -- Lakers: greatness-(Tim Duncan was injured and didn't play in the playoffs at all. You were saying?)
1999 -- Spurs: benefited from 50-game season, but had Twin Towers(So, why doesn't anyone say the same shit about Miami's 66 game season that ended with a title?_
1998 -- Jazz: peak of Stockton-Malone era
1997 -- Jazz: see 1998
1996 -- Sonics: 64-18 team would have won most years, but ran into 72-10 Bulls
1995 -- Rockets: beat 3, 2, and 1 seeds in order
1994 -- Rockets: won championships, Hakeem was best center of his era
1993 -- Suns: Barkley-led team gave Bulls all they wanted
1992 -- Blazers: ultra-loaded team
1991 -- Lakers: greatness(so great they lost in 5 and Magic never approached the Finals again. Hey it took a Euro center in Vlade Divac to give him a competent enough big to play well enough to win the West but man...lost in 5 and it wasn't even that close-SEE 2004 Lakers)
1990 -- Blazers: see 1992
1989 -- Lakers: greatness despite injury
1988, 87 -- Lakers: greatness
1986 -- Rockets: upset great Lakers team, had original and best Twin Towers
1985, 84, 83, 82 -- Lakers: greatness
1981 -- Rockets: 40-42. I agree this team was worse than the 2013 Spurs.

See- You can twist it a myriad of ways and so can I. It's easy, when you've been watching this game for as long as I have.

[Budkin]

:lol Wizards
:lol Your existence

[Man In Black]

I dab my tears with 100 dollar bills.
Is that a $100 bet Kevin Grevey?

[KaiRMD1]

I like how pretty much every Spurs team that made it to the finals "benefited" from injuries except the 05 team, they were justified because they beat the Pistons. You sir, belong on ESPN

[NASpurs]

sup Extra Stout.

this, tbh.

[Cry Havoc]

zzzzzz thread is zzzzzzzz

[FromWayDowntown]

Miami against the East: 41-11 .788
Miami against the West: 25-5 .833

Fail.

San Antonio against the East: 25-5 .833

[ThePop]

:lol people feeding the troll

[Homeland Security]

Is that a $100 bet Kevin Grevey?
lol that is awesome sherlock

[Homeland Security]

I like how pretty much every Spurs team that made it to the finals "benefited" from injuries except the 05 team, they were justified because they beat the Pistons. You sir, belong on ESPN
Thank you. I worked hard on that subtlety and I appreciate your catching it.

[CosmicCowboy]

LOL @ you guys getting trolled.

[superbigtime]

Hey it's not the Spurs fault that they faced the 5, 6, and 7 seeded teams; that's the advantage of being in the 2-7 and 3-8 bracket. They beat them handily, only losing two games and winning 12. Shoulda beaten GSW in 5 games. 12 post season wins is more than a Wizards fan can hope for in a lifetime lol.

Spurs are the #2 seed and won the west, how is that the weakest WC champ in 30 years. Houston won as a 6th seed with a shit record of 47-35, and they swept a shittier eastern conference champ Orlando.

[DarrinS]

Does the OP know how playoff seeding works?

[baseline bum]

The only better troll job would be Amused creating the game threads again. This thread is particularly funny since you can make a good case he's right (other than the shots he took at previous Spurs teams). Not the Spurs fault Denver shit the bed and Westbrook had pussy knees though.

[Splits]

Yeah, a team with 4 HOFers is weak. Cute thread.

[703 Spurz]

The likely Eastern champion won 66 games, including 27 in a row at one point, and features one of the 5 greatest players of all time at his absolute peak.

Uh, b/c the East sucks. You just fucked yourself in the ass with that comment.

[SupremeGuy]

http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/da036c1e6016f54d00887907c82f6059/http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii375/Trueflame08/unsuccessful-troll.jpgPretty fucking much.

[DejuanorwhatDude]

What does John Wall have to do with the Spurs' being the worst Western Conference "champion" since the Space Shuttle first launched?

Theres no need for quotes dipshit. 12 wins is 12 wins. The Spurs beat the teams that were in front of them. Your subjective opinion on the subject doesn't change that.

What is undisputable is John Wall is the face of your franchise. Do I have to explain how shitty that is? Or that a Wizards fan would talk shit about the Spurs being 'weak' champions when they can't even avoid drafting garbage heaps like Jan Vesley?

Im guessing you're a troll but if so you're doing a pretty bad job of it. At least be funny. Otherwise go back to wailing in misery at your joke of a franchise.

[capek]

Nine days until Game 1. Plenty of stupidity is bound to ensue in this forum.

[Knoxxx]

East sux 20 years running now?

[The Reckoning]

trolling upstairs is bush league tbh

[ThaBigFundamental21]

And so if the Spurs win it all, what is the knock???

[ThaBigFundamental21]

For the record, I like the Spurs over the Thunder with Westbrook. The truly important loss was Harden. Btw, injuries happen every year to many teams. When the Spurs have a hurt player, do you think anyone gives a shit??? Of course not.

[Splits]

:lol bullets. I go to the Verizon center to catch games when intriguing teams are in town, and they don't even have any fans. More people of the opposing team attend the game than bullet fans, nobody gives a shit about meaningless franchise except OP. :lol bullets

[Knoxxx]

For the record, I like the Spurs over the Thunder with Westbrook. The truly important loss was Harden. Btw, injuries happen every year to many teams. When the Spurs have a hurt player, do you think anyone gives a shit??? Of course not.

Spot on. OKC effed up when they declined to pay Harden. No way they beat us last year without him, he freakin' killed us with his epic flopping and by getting hot on low percentage forced long 3s. That whole rule about flopping penalties or fines was due to him, but too late for us!

Also we all know the Spurs have been QUITE plagued by injuries, often of the nagging sort where the player comes back but can't play at full efficiency for an extended period. Prime example was people thinking Duncan was washed up 3-4 years ago due to various lingering leg/foot injuries. Manu of course is the poster child, and exactly right nobody could give a damn!

[Drew2354]

Didnt even realise Wizards was an NBA Team...could of sworn they came from the WNBA.

[hater]

:lmao what does that make the 2013 Heat :lmao

Bucks :lol

Nate Robinson :lol

Pacers :lmao

[Gervin44Silas13]

Your post is as shitty as your team......The wizards is the gayest name for a team....then again you team sucks...anyway so why do we care what you think.....

[Baynes]

Huh. Now I know how Wizards fans spend their time during the postseason.
there are fans of Wizards? :wow

[McGusto55]

Fuck you....

[Horse]

The Spurs took advantage of a weak West, an injured Russell Westbrook, and lucky draws (7-6-5 seeds), to be the worst team to emerge from the West since the 1981 Rockets.

2012 -- Thunder: good team, 3 elite players, beat Lakers and overhyped Spurs team
2011 -- Mavericks: won championship over elite Miami team
2010 -- Lakers: champs, self-explanatory
2009 -- Lakers: see 2010
2008 -- Lakers: great team, lost to greater Boston team
2007 -- Spurs: benefited from #1 seed Dallas losing and questionable suspensions against Phx, but overall decent
2006 -- Mavs: should have won championship but refs intervened
2005 -- Spurs: beat champion Pistons
2004 -- Lakers: 4 Hall-of-Famers
2003 -- Spurs: backed into Finals because of depleted Lakers, injuries to C-Webb, Dirk, but they were a 1 seed
2002 -- Lakers: greatness
2001 -- Lakers: super-greatness
2000 -- Lakers: greatness
1999 -- Spurs: benefited from 50-game season, but had Twin Towers
1998 -- Jazz: peak of Stockton-Malone era
1997 -- Jazz: see 1998
1996 -- Sonics: 64-18 team would have won most years, but ran into 72-10 Bulls
1995 -- Rockets: beat 3, 2, and 1 seeds in order
1994 -- Rockets: won championships, Hakeem was best center of his era
1993 -- Suns: Barkley-led team gave Bulls all they wanted
1992 -- Blazers: ultra-loaded team
1991 -- Lakers: greatness
1990 -- Blazers: see 1992
1989 -- Lakers: greatness despite injury
1988, 87 -- Lakers: greatness
1986 -- Rockets: upset great Lakers team, had original and best Twin Towers
1985, 84, 83, 82 -- Lakers: greatness
1981 -- Rockets: 40-42. I agree this team was worse than the 2013 Spurs.

So the 2013 Spurs are a testament to how far the West has fallen and how lacking it is in depth behind Oklahoma City. The only way Miami doesn't sweep 4-0 is if the Heat get bored.

Hard to tell if he's a laker fan a mav fan a spur hater or just a fucking faggot!

[Horse]

I notice nobody has been able to argue that any of the past 30+ Western champions are worse than the 2013 Spurs. All I've heard is that the East is weak too, that Serge Ibaka once hit a bunch of jump shots, and that the Wizards suck.

So it is firmly established that the 2013 Spurs are the worst team to win the Western Conference in 30+ years.

Both maverick teams were worse in '11 they got lucky shooting and played a laker team that was done. in '06 the refs raped the spurs. Last year thunder as we saw in the finals were a fluke. Hitting low percentage well defended shots against the Spurs. 08-10 the Spurs, Duncan in particular were not healthy. '04 derek fisher buzzer beater were they started the clock late. 2000 Duncan was hurt so they could not defend their championship. Shall I continue?