Pacers-Heat FT disparity..

[HarlemHeat37]

Got this from a Heat poster on another board..

Game 1
Pacers: 32
Heat: 25

Game 2
Pacers: 32
Heat: 26

Game 3
Pacers: 44
Heat: 28

Game 4
Pacers: 33
Heat: 27

Now, before some smart-ass comments on Indiana's style of play and their tendency to pound the paint, here are the points in the paint numbers..

Game 1
Pacers: 48
Heat: 60

Game 2
Pacers: 40
Heat: 40

Game 3
Pacers: 36
Heat: 52

I understand Joey Crawford's job tonight was to extend the series, since the Spurs already swept, you can't have 2 sweeps in the conference finals, and more Lebron on TV is always good for ratings, tbh..however, this was an issue even before this game..

Hopefully games 5 and 6 are officiated fairly, tbh..

[LkrFan]

cHeat: How many of those points in the paint were from fastbreaks?

[HarlemHeat37]

Does anybody remember a more lopsided series in terms of officiating, tbh?..

Indiana and Miami were 6th and 7th in FT/FGA during the regular season, and 10th/14th in defensive FT/FGA..there shouldn't be a disparity of this nature, tbh..

[hater]

haven't seen these many tears since Kobe stepped on a pressure cooker tbh :lol

[LkrFan]

haven't seen these many tears since Kobe stepped on a pressure cooker tbh :lol:lmao

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

I agree that the Pacers have been favored, but maybe the reason the points in the paint is low for the Pacers is because fouls have been called, so 2 pointers in the paint instead become FT attempts. The 12 foul discrepancy for the series is quite large though.

[jeebus]

true. heat fan tears are delish


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzhYNcd4OM

[Kidd K]

I'd love it if the Spurs got at least 25 FTAs every game.

[HarlemHeat37]

I agree that the Pacers have been favored, but maybe the reason the points in the paint is low for the Pacers is because fouls have been called, so 2 pointers in the paint instead become FT attempts. The 12 foul discrepancy for the series is quite large though.

Maybe, but until somebody analyzes the fouls(which they won't, since it's against the Heat), the point remains valid..Indiana is getting a ton of calls..

[RD2191]

:cry:cry:cry

[TDMVPDPOY]

heat low post defense is overrated and non existent, nothing but a foul machine trading 2 for 1 baskets...

[Killakobe81]

paint poinst include transition layups which dont always lead to fouls ... and the heat excell at ...

Harlem, reaching ...

[HarlemHeat37]

I just checked the numbers and Miami barely has more fastbreak opportunities than Indiana:lmao..the Heat have 4 extra fastbreak points, included in the FTAs and points in the paint stats..

Any more theories?..

[Jacob1983]

A Heat fan crying about the refs is like a Nazi begging a Jew for forgiveness.

[Richie]

The Heat foul when the bigs get the ball in the paint to stop dunks. If nothing else, the fact that the Heat score more in the paint backs that up, as the free throws they get from fouls in the paint aren't included.

[Jacob1983]

Stop being pussies and go to the damn basket, Superfriends.

[Chinook]

I agree that the Pacers have been favored, but maybe the reason the points in the paint is low for the Pacers is because fouls have been called, so 2 pointers in the paint instead become FT attempts. The 12 foul discrepancy for the series is quite large though.

Free throws from fouls in the paint are considered points in the paint.

[Chinook]

Jump-shooting teams don't get as many foul calls. I know the Heat drive a lot. But the Pacers do, too, and instead of shooting as many threes, they give the ball to Hibbert and West. I think if you took out fouls on bigs, the Heat are probably favored in the free-throw disparity.

[Thebesteva]

OP would suck venom out of Lebron's thigh if he got bit by a snake

[Nathan89]

I just checked the numbers and Miami barely has more fastbreak opportunities than Indiana:lmao..the Heat have 4 extra fastbreak points, included in the FTAs and points in the paint stats..

Any more theories?..

Perhaps the Heat fouled the Pacers more.

[sook]

LOL maybe because the Pacers do their work in the post and the Heat shoot jumpers all day? :lol :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Meh, i thought the officiating was fine.

That said, the officiating does not favor Miami which for some reason your average Casual fans aka kobe fan seems to believe.

[Jacob1983]

Heat fans crying over the refs. Hilarious. I guess they have already forgotten Wade's fuckfest at the FT line in the 2006 Finals? Bandwagon fans!

[HarlemHeat37]

LOL maybe because the Pacers do their work in the post and the Heat shoot jumpers all day? :lol :lol

Miami has had more points in the paint by a substantial margin, try again..

Whatever reason is provided, an 8.8 per game FT disparity is massive, especially for a team that apparently gets all the calls according to NBA fan:lol..

[racm]

Spurs had more points in the paint than Memphis in Game 4 and still had fewer FTs. Er?

[jimbo]

One thing's for sure, George Hill is getting superstar treatment this series. I have no clue why.

Every time he drives someone breathes on him and he'll get a foul. Must be nice.

[HarlemHeat37]

I've said this all year, not just based on this series, search my history, tbh..

1. Lakers
2. Thunder
3. Grizzlies
4. Pacers

is the order of officiating bias in the NBA this year, tbh..

[whitemamba]

OP would suck venom out of Lebron's thigh if he got bit by a snake

Probably suck it out of yo momma too.

[spurraider21]

maybe if lebron/wade/battier stopped flopping all the time the refs would respect them enough to call the game fairly.

and shot clock violation? really?

[mercos]

Games 1, 2, and 4 seem fine, especially considering Indiana's size advantage inside. Indiana is pounding the ball inside, and Miami can't defend it. Didn't watch much of game 3, but if those stats are true that is an abomination. No team should be getting 44 free throw attempts in a game unless Hack-a-Shaq is being employed. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.

[AaronY]

Cliffs:

http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/tin-foil-hat.jpg?3d6f98

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol I don't think there's a conspiracy, at all, I'm not one of those niggas, although I do frequently complain about officiating..

This thread is just additional data to my previous thread, proving that Miami isn't anywhere near the Lakers or Thunder in "teams that get every call", which NBA fan seems to blindly believe..

[Thebesteva]

Probably suck it out of yo momma too.

Yo momma jokes? Really?

[Jacob1983]

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/2b1/67e/63f/resized/bad-timing-bob-meme-generator-tells-funny-yo-mama-joke-at-friend-s-mom-s-funeral-f41b0c.png?1348523941.jpg

[sook]

Miami has had more points in the paint by a substantial margin, try again..

Whatever reason is provided, an 8.8 per game FT disparity is massive, especially for a team that apparently gets all the calls according to NBA fan:lol..
fast break points count as points in the paint. Try those stats iwthin the context of the game, the Pacers have been running legit post plays the entire series and the Heat are fouling them more...hence = more FTs.

I don't have a dog in this fight, just an unbiased observer.

[whitemamba]

Yo momma jokes? Really?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5gTZjuo0rc?

[Warlord23]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18p4oblhv9c83gif/ku-xlarge.gif

[HarlemHeat37]

fast break points count as points in the paint. Try those stats iwthin the context of the game, the Pacers have been running legit post plays the entire series and the Heat are fouling them more...hence = more FTs.

I don't have a dog in this fight, just an unbiased observer.

Miami only has 4 fastbreak points more than the Pacers:lol..

[Jacob1983]

Was Lecrab honestly trying to get the refs to buy that he was hit in the mouth on that flop?

[chunticakes]

Meh, i thought the officiating was fine.

That said, the officiating does not favor Miami which for some reason your average Casual fans aka kobe fan seems to believe.

vica kerekes ftmfw.

[HI-FI]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18p4oblhv9c83gif/ku-xlarge.gif
as great as Lebron is, he still does a lot of bitch moves like this. what's funny is how West so quickly reacts with his own flop so he doesn't get in trouble.

[kidd_91]

LeBron is like the kid with chocolate all over his face but refuses to admit he stole the candy. He keeps saying he doesn't flop, but there are countless videos showing him flopping. I think the NBA office has had enough of his and the Heat's crap and are just calling the game how it is.

[romsey31]

Got this from a Heat poster on another board..

Game 1
Pacers: 32
Heat: 25

Game 2
Pacers: 32
Heat: 26

Game 3
Pacers: 44
Heat: 28

Game 4
Pacers: 33
Heat: 27

Now, before some smart-ass comments on Indiana's style of play and their tendency to pound the paint, here are the points in the paint numbers..

Game 1
Pacers: 48
Heat: 60

Game 2
Pacers: 40
Heat: 40

Game 3
Pacers: 36
Heat: 52

I understand Joey Crawford's job tonight was to extend the series, since the Spurs already swept, you can't have 2 sweeps in the conference finals, and more Lebron on TV is always good for ratings, tbh..however, this was an issue even before this game..

Hopefully games 5 and 6 are officiated fairly, tbh..

Lmao. A heat fan complaining about calls. Unbelievable!

Btw you forget to mention how you get your points in the paint, mostly from uncontested bird man and wade back door cuts., and fast break points. You guys have zero post play or offensive rebounding.

Btw pacers had 50 points in the paint compared to miami's 32 last night

[racm]

Indiana gets more free throws because that's their style of play. Ground and pound.

Like San Antonio Miami prefers the open shot to just pounding it in the post. Easy to generate FT/FGA if the team's scoring methodology involves a lot of contact, and post-ups and isolations do not freeflowing basketball make.

[pikkiwoki]

LeBron is like the kid with chocolate all over his face

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_lHQLVRtyg#t=3m24s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnqgmgOJ4iI#t=1m09s

[Phillip]

this series has definitely been officiated to favor indy heavily

[Ghazi]

:lol Harlem Heat asking if anyone remembers a lopsided series as far as officiating worse than this

2006 Finals, Kings/Lakers, shit ton of others, etc.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I like how everyone in this thread is presenting arguments Harlem has already addressed in the OP.

[Clipper Nation]

Harlem dropping truth bombs, but it won't matter, people have simply decided they hate the Heat so every call they get is Stern rigging it for them, tbh..... it's the same thing as how every casual NBA fan yells "FLOP!!! FLOP CITY!!!" every time a Clippers player is legitimately fouled....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Refs aside, this series shows how bad of a coach Phillibeaner really is.

[Asif Ali Zardari]

:lmao Heat fans complaining while Anderson gets away with a shove without an ejection.

[Phillip]

Refs aside, this series shows how bad of a coach Phillibeaner really is.

this

Bosh should be able to score easily on West and Hibbert. He is too fast and skilled to be stopped by them. He should be driving more, and especially being used in the PnR. But they are having him do nothing but spot up.

[HarlemHeat37]

I wasn't here for game 6 and the days leading up to it, but game 6 was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen against a defending champion, tbh..

- Lebron's offensive foul on Hibbert's "verticality" and 2 subsequent technical fouls

- Bosh goaltending call on a clear block

- Hansbrough offensive goaltending not called

NBA games always have 50-50 calls that can go either way, but those were 3 egregiously embarrassing calls that altered the game, tbh..

[Aztecfan03]

I wasn't here for game 6 and the days leading up to it, but game 6 was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen against a defending champion, tbh..

- Lebron's offensive foul on Hibbert's "verticality" and 2 subsequent technical fouls

- Bosh goaltending call on a clear block

- Hansbrough offensive goaltending not called

NBA games always have 50-50 calls that can go either way, but those were 3 egregiously embarrassing calls that altered the game, tbh..

You missed all the call on the other side of the coin.

[dbestpro]

The Heat flop and whine on e Rey play. Either the squeaky wheel gets the grease or merchandising rules. Pacers never were going to be allowed to go for the ring. Stern gets credit for the milk job.

[HarlemHeat37]

I can't remember a championship team in the 2000s that didn't flop excessively, tbh..

The Pacers had the officiating advantage in this series, it's not really arguable, the facts have been presented, tbh..