protests in istanbul

[turkish spurs fan]

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/31/world/meast/istanbul-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

to watch online http://geziparkitv.blogspot.it/

[George Gervin's Afro]

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/31/world/meast/istanbul-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

to watch online http://geziparkitv.blogspot.it/

are u there?

[turkish spurs fan]

nope i live in another city. maybe tomorrow (if one of my friend comes with me)

[turkish spurs fan]

http://www.vgtv.no/#!/video/65023/dirkete-oppt%C3%B8yer-i-istanbul

http://reuters.livestation.com/demo

[clambake]

what kind of shopping can be expected?

[MannyIsGod]

nope i live in another city. maybe tomorrow (if one of my friend comes with me)

What are they about?

[clambake]

What are they about?

pave paradise
put in a parking lot

[turkish spurs fan]

big shopping center but it is not the only problem. goverment's police force's terror has been incredible level. goverment trying to show everybody its force but publicians dont give up fighting againts.

[baseline bum]

:cry If only you guys had been up in arms to save the poor Armenians :cry

[MannyIsGod]

LOL its really about a shopping center? WTF?

[turkish spurs fan]

g (http://fakfukfon.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/atencionatencioattentionattention/)alatasaray.

[InRareForm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLnx8QXCEAA4XQR.jpg

[turkish spurs fan]

to understand this one may be helpful

http://hkubra.tumblr.com/post/51837417670/from-privileged-activism-to-an-outcry-against (http://hkubra.tumblr.com/post/51837417670/from-privileged-activism-to-an-outcry-against)

[turkish spurs fan]

http://rt.com/on-air/turkey-protest-istanbul-park/

[lefty]

GALATASARAY ARE GONNA BEAT REAL MADRID YOU WILL SEE

[turkish spurs fan]

"çare drogba" (çare means cure)

http://instagram.com/p/aBo5tVFyWj/

[turkish spurs fan]

GALATASARAY ARE GONNA BEAT REAL MADRID YOU WILL SEE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLsmxSWCAAA5oDc.jpg

[turkish spurs fan]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/74996bb1a0f241ef4f68b3ab36db351b/tumblr_mnq42qJXpq1qchpmvo1_500.jpg

[turkish spurs fan]

vaclav kadlec

[turkish spurs fan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLvw8QRCYAEobh4.jpg

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[turkish spurs fan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLwO7cbCAAA8Ss3.jpg

[turkish spurs fan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLwTAoECEAIWMC8.jpg

we re a really funny country

[Twisted_Dawg]

Another country headed for rule under the Muslim Brotherhood?

[boutons_deux]

Muslim/theocratic rule screws the minority voting bloc, just as it would if "Christians" Ruled America according to Bible/10 C's.

[boutons_deux]

Erdogan talking about protesters sounds like SpursTalkers slandering OWS

Turkish Leader Says Protests Will Not Stop Plans for ParkPrime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey dismissed the tens of thousands of protesters who battled for two days with police officers in the streets of Istanbul as “looters” and “bums” on Sunday. He vowed to push ahead with plans to demolish a public park — a trigger for the spasm of public anger that left Istanbul’s main commercial district strewn with graffiti and broken glass.

Mr. Erdogan criticized Twitter, which became an important conduit of news — and unfounded rumors — about the demonstrations, which were not covered aggressively in the Turkish news media.
“Now we have a menace that is called Twitter,” he said. “The best examples of lies can be found there. To me, social media is the worst menace to society.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/03/world/middleeast/turkey-premier-says-protests-will-not-stop-plans-to-demolish-park.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

yep, kill communications among citizens, keep people in the dark, and feed them govt propaganda.

[turkish spurs fan]

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[whitemamba]

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I wonder if the protests are being fueled by the syrians...

[turkish spurs fan]

I wonder if the protests are being fueled by the syrians...

this protest is not like any others. so original, so cleverly managed. againts police terror, young people from many sides showed a great civil resist. we succeded our challenge not to be owned by a political party. we showed recep tayyip erdogan you can not do what you want. you have to listen your all people. having power made him like a dictator. my english is not well enough so i can not tell myself good enough.

no syrians. so far from.

[Thebesteva]

:cry If only you guys had been up in arms to save the poor Armenians :cry

Germans hate Turks. Not sure bout u tho tbh

[velik_m]

LOL its really about a shopping center? WTF?

I'm guessing it no more about the shopping mall as world war 1 was about an assassination of Franz Ferdinand.

[boutons_deux]

LOL its really about a shopping center? WTF?

the Ataturk center is to be turned into a mosque, heard on NPR.

the park to be developed into business is about the last green space in that area. Surely the business developers greased lots of govt/mullah hands to destroy the park.

[whitemamba]

this protest is not like any others. so original, so cleverly managed. againts police terror, young people from many sides showed a great civil resist. we succeded our challenge not to be owned by a political party. we showed recep tayyip erdogan you can not do what you want. you have to listen your all people. having power made him like a dictator. my english is not well enough so i can not tell myself good enough.

no syrians. so far from.

2 questions if you dont mind? Are you muslim and if you are im assuming your sunni, second question, what are the reasons behind these protests?

[vy65]

:cry If only you guys had been up in arms to save the poor Armenians :cry

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maf4tqX4an1r1emlm.gif

[turkish spurs fan]

2 questions if you dont mind? Are you muslim and if you are im assuming your sunni, second question, what are the reasons behind these protests?

first question, i am a sunni muslim. this situation doesn't keep me from protest the state-police terrorism. turkey state always made terror againts his own people in history, including muslims, non-Muslims, kurdishs, ermenians, so others. as a muslim and as a human, it is my duty to protect anyone againts state terrorism and pressure.

second question, goverment (ak party) claims that marginal organizations are behinds this. but they re wrong. i watched the process of the first 2-3 days so close. it wasn't like goverment claims. they re trying to make this protest is seculars are behind. we all (my friendson on social media and streets) tryed to protect from this. but with their media they re trying to do that. it is still not clear if they will succeed or not. it is processing.

[whitemamba]

first question, i am a sunni muslim. this situation doesn't keep me from protest the state-police terrorism. turkey state always made terror againts his own people in history, including muslims, non-Muslims, kurdishs, ermenians, so others. as a muslim and as a human, it is my duty to protect anyone againts state terrorism and pressure.

second question, goverment (ak party) claims that marginal organizations are behinds this. but they re wrong. i watched the process of the first 2-3 days so close. it wasn't like goverment claims. they re trying to make this protest is seculars are behind. we all (my friendson on social media and streets) tryed to protect from this. but with their media they re trying to do that. it is still not clear if they will succeed or not. it is processing.






mashallah

[turkish spurs fan]

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[symple19]

Yeah, Erdogan has certainly been trending toward the dark side

Any sense where the Armed Forces are on this matter? They can get meddlesome when they don't like what's going on.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

this is another example of the American Government being able to save lives in the middle east but not caring. Turkey has been an American puppet for years and one call from the White House would end the violence asap.

[boutons_deux]

this is another example of the American Government being able to save lives in the middle east but not caring. Turkey has been an American puppet for years and one call from the White House would end the violence asap.

turkish govt might listen to USA, but protesters wouldn't, so the Turkish govt would keep battling the protesters.

[RandomGuy]

this protest is not like any others. so original, so cleverly managed. againts police terror, young people from many sides showed a great civil resist. we succeded our challenge not to be owned by a political party. we showed recep tayyip erdogan you can not do what you want. you have to listen your all people. having power made him like a dictator. my english is not well enough so i can not tell myself good enough.

no syrians. so far from.

I wish you luck.

That part of the world does not need another theocracy/dictatorship, and Erdoğan worries me.

Turkey is a great example of what can be achieved by ignoring the stupider parts of religion, IMO.

[RandomGuy]

this is another example of the American Government being able to save lives in the middle east but not caring. Turkey has been an American puppet for years and one call from the White House would end the violence asap.

Turkey has, by far, not been any kind of "puppet". They have been in the US/Nato corner since WW2 simply because it was better than being a soviet satellite.

They have been genuine friends for most of that time, from my understanding, and rightly so as one of the more democratic countries in that part of the world.

That said, the violence is being driven by a politician who is benefitting from economic growth, and thinking that he can do anything he wants without being held accountable.

He has systematically moved to consolidate power in a rather alarming way, and this is the outgrowth.

Sad to say that the US has less influence here than you might think.

[RandomGuy]

I'm guessing it no more about the shopping mall as world war 1 was about an assassination of Franz Ferdinand.

Bingo.

For those who care, the litany of stupidity from the current Turkish president:

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21579005-protests-against-recep-tayyip-erdogan-and-his-ham-fisted-response-have-shaken-his-rule-and

He got lucky and rose to power during a time of great economic progress that he had little to do with, but got to take credit for.

In response he has moved towards a religious-themed dicatorship in a way that has alarmed many within his country and without.

The park was the spark, but there was a large stack of dry kindling nearby.

I doubt his government will survive this.

[turkish spurs fan]

Yeah, Erdogan has certainly been trending toward the dark side

Any sense where the Armed Forces are on this matter? They can get meddlesome when they don't like what's going on.

turkey was managed by kemalist ideology and armed forces always was the real goverment of turkey. ak party's power come from the reaction of the public againts armed forces and kemalist ideology. for example recep tayyip erdogan was in prison because of just reading a poem. after recep tayyip erdogan been president, his party made the military coups passive and most of people live in turkey supported them. this was great.

it is good turkish armed forces not talking anything. most of old commanders are in prison and they deserved it.

now, i warn erdogan not to use his armed forces (police) againts people. it s not a good thing to do thing what is made againts you before. we r now afraid of when we see police on streets. it s comic.

[turkish spurs fan]

recep tayyip erdogan returned to turkey and made a speech at the airport.

now i am sure,

recep tayyip erdogan lost his control. he will destroy turkey. god bless us.

[turkish spurs fan]

can be a historical day. tonight.

[Winehole23]

Turkey's Internet watchdog blocked Twitter (http://quotes.wsj.com/TWTR) Inc. TWTR +0.10% (http://quotes.wsj.com/TWTR) on Thursday, hours after Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan (http://topics.wsj.com/person/E/recep-tayyip-erdogan/6387?lc=int_mb_1001) threatened to shut down the social-media site that has become a vehicle for allegations of government corruption ahead of elections.


The move, confirmed by the telecommunications regulator and the state news agency, sent shock waves across Turkey, which is one of the top 10 users of Twitter world-wide with millions of users.










Turkish citizens have increasingly turned to the medium to voice opposition to the government and organize demonstrations as mainstream media have avoided criticism of Mr. Erdogan.


The ban placed Turkey in the company of a small group of authoritarian states including Syria, North Korea and Iran that have muzzled Twitter and other social-media websites in a bid to stifle dissent.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304026304579451950514196232

[RandomGuy]

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304026304579451950514196232

Saw that. Not an encouraging development.

[Winehole23]

Over the weekend, Google reported that Turkey had intercepted traffic (http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/03/googles-public-dns-intercepted-in-turkey.html) to its public domain name system (DNS) service—part of prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s increasingly draconian crackdown against the social media networks that are being used to distribute damaging information (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25637710) about him.





To understand why the DNS interception is so troubling, you have to understand how a DNS works: websites use a simple name, such as IBM.com, for the convenience of users. But then domain name systems have to translate those names into their computer-readable numeric form, such as 129.42.38.1.




When Turkey initially blocked Twitter and then YouTube last week, internet users fought back by using Google’s DNS—even spray-painting (http://observers.france24.com/content/20140321-graffiti-turkey-DNS-twitter-ban) its numbers onto buildings and billboards in an attempt to spread the word. But now, to combat those guerilla tactics, Erdogan’s government and the country’s ISPs have taken a scary step that could affect all Turkish internet traffic—and even allow it to track down and punish users who try to evade the ban.




Renesys, which security experts consider a reliable source for information about the plumbing of the internet, says that other free DNS services have also been intercepted (http://www.renesys.com/2014/03/turkish-internet-censorship/).




If blocking Twitter is like putting a single phone number out of service, intercepting the DNS is like giving users an entire, fraudulent new phone book—and it’s a troubling escalation against Turkish internet users. http://qz.com/193533/turkeys-online-censorship-just-took-a-sinister-orwellian-turn/