Classy Bruce

[barakz21]

I turned on the TV to play some video games. When it came on, the channel was on ESPN and this guy and Bruce were talking about the ECF. Bruce was talking about Lebron being there many times, that many people have challenged him. He said it in a way that made it seem like none of those challengers ever got the best of Lebron. Except that HE did. I thought it was pretty funny and classy of him.

[sammy]

LOL! Love Bruce!

[davidbowie]

bruce is my hero

[hooperflash]

I saw it too, I wonder how often he talks to Whi-Whi..

[Obstructed_View]

The eleven of us that were watching know the truth. Lebron got shut the fuck down.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Bruce Bowen always had the best defensive player manning the paint on his team (Mourning, then Duncan). Just saying...

[barakz21]

The eleven of us that were watching know the truth. Lebron got shut the fuck down.

With authority. Probably still haunts 'Bron in his nightmares. :toast

[stxspurs]

the other day on the radio he said that he didnt think spurs were a dynasty cuz we didnt repeat as champs....i was disappointed in that comment...especially from him

[boutons_deux]

IIRC, this forum said Bruce slowed Lebron down a bit in 2007 Finals, did NOT shut him down.

[DeadlyDynasty]

the other day on the radio he said that he didnt think spurs were a dynasty cuz we didnt repeat as champs....i was disappointed in that comment...especially from him

Props to BB for telling it like it is.

[barakz21]

I dunno about what others said, but I did say he got the best of Lebron in that 07 finals. That's different from him shutting 'Bron down. IIRC, Bron's numbers were bad during the first 2 games, but they got better during the last 2.

[dunkman]

LeBron is a better play now, and Bruce is gone too.

[UZER]

the other day on the radio he said that he didnt think spurs were a dynasty cuz we didnt repeat as champs....i was disappointed in that comment...especially from him

Wait...so 4 rings in 9 years isnt, but the 90s Rockets are wIth only 2 rings and no other appearances?

[stxspurs]

never heard anyone call rockets a dynasty....lakerfan gonna hate. damn st8 spurs are dynasty

[UZER]

never heard anyone call rockets a dynasty....lakerfan gonna hate. damn st8 spurs are dynasty

But back to back automatically makes one no?

And yes I have heard people mention the Rockets "dynasty".

[Dingle Barry]

Bruce Bowen always had the best defensive player manning the paint on his team (Mourning, then Duncan). Just saying... Not sure what you are implying this could possibly have to do with Bowen being one of the greatest perimeter lock down defenders ever. It's not like his reputation was earned based on opponent teams' overall offensive stats.

[SA210]

the other day on the radio he said that he didnt think spurs were a dynasty cuz we didnt repeat as champs....i was disappointed in that comment...especially from him

Yea, I just posted this in another thread. I was very surprised and disappointed to hear him say that too. Even Bill Simmons disagreed with him. lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

Not sure what you are implying this could possibly have to do with Bowen being one of the greatest perimeter lock down defenders ever.

Yeah, not sure how playing with a premier defensive anchor your whole career could possibly impact Bowen. Solid point.

[Agloco]

Props to BB for telling it like it is.

Or more likely not wanting to come across as biased. The River Hate is flowing deeply and swiftly these days. 5 in 13 has a high likelihood of inducing mass suicides in Lakerland.

[texwheel]

With the 4 (so far) titles and the best winning percentage in all of pro sports in the US during Tim's reign, I don't see how it isn't a dynasty.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Or more likely not wanting to come across as biased.

Or the fact that every other team considered a dynasty has defended their title at least once. Don't let that faze you though:tu

[baseline bum]

Or the fact that every other team considered a dynasty has defended their title at least once. Don't let that faze you though:tu

Not the 1980s Celtics.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Not the 1980s Celtics.

I don't consider them a dynasty. Only one per decade:

50s: Lakers
60s: Celtics
70s: Nobody
80s: Lakers
90s: Bulls
2000s: Lakers
2010s: Miami Heat pretty much a lock

[Agloco]

Or the fact that every other team considered a dynasty has defended their title at least once. Don't let that faze you though:tu

Antiquated thinking on Bruces part tbh.

Unfazed fwiw.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Antiquated thinking.

Your opinion. What's not an opinion is that those aforementioned teams all defended their titles.

[baseline bum]

I don't consider them a dynasty.

Most non-Laker fans do.

[DeadlyDynasty]

If by non-Lakerfan you mean Spurfan and Bill Simmons, then sure.

[T Park]

If by non-Lakerfan you mean Spurfan and Bill Simmons, then sure.

Keep going troll. Leaving out more names.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Keep going troll. Leaving out more names.

lighten up, brah

[Agloco]

Your opinion.

Touche :toast

.....although one could argue that the winds of change are blowing here.


What's not an opinion is that those aforementioned teams all defended their titles.

Very true. This is an insufficient criterion unfortunately.

[Agloco]

Keep going troll. Leaving out more names.

Honestly I find DD to be quite levelheaded in these sorts of discussions, however biased he might be.

[baseline bum]

If by non-Lakerfan you mean Spurfan and Bill Simmons, then sure.

Goebbels rollin over in his grave at your disrespect for the greatest Aryan team of all-time tbh.

http://images.wikia.com/hitlerparody/images/7/71/Goebbels_Facepalm.jpg

[DeadlyDynasty]

Honestly I find DD to be quite levelheaded in these sorts of discussions, however biased he might be.

Exactly, my aim was to have a civil discourse about this--but in came T Park attacking me like I was a Big Montana

[baseline bum]

Exactly, my aim was to have a civil discourse about this--but in came T Park attacking me like I was a Big Montana

Had to google :vomit:

[Obstructed_View]

Exactly, my aim was to have a civil discourse about this--but in came T Park attacking me like I was a Big Montana

Okay, that seriously made me :lol

[spurs10]

The eleven of us that were watching know the truth. Lebron got shut the fuck down.
Hey!!! Make that 12!! :toast

[Agloco]

Exactly, my aim was to have a civil discourse about this--but in came T Park attacking me like I was a Big Montana

:lol

Roast beef is off the menu.

Carry on then.

[Aztecfan03]

I don't consider them a dynasty. Only one per decade:

50s: Lakers
60s: Celtics
70s: Nobody
80s: Lakers
90s: Bulls
2000s: Lakers
2010s: Miami Heat pretty much a lock

Not really. THey aren't a lock to win it this year, but even if they do, wade and a lot of the role players are only getting older. And who knows how long Lebron stays.

[cjw]

But back to back automatically makes one no?

And yes I have heard people mention the Rockets "dynasty".

Too bad the Rockets and Bulls teams never ran into each other in the Finals. Bulls probably still win, but prime Hakeem may have made it competitive.

[Budkin]

I would consider the Spurs a dynasty based on consistency alone. Look how many fucking years they've had 50+ wins and made the playoffs. Not many other teams, if any, can match up to that streak.

[KaiRMD1]

Apparently, Shawn Marion did

[thiste]

IIRC, this forum said Bruce slowed Lebron down a bit in 2007 Finals, did NOT shut him down.

Did not shut him down maybe, but did way more than "slowed him down a bit" tbh. We're not talking about a regular defender here, we're talking about Bruce Bowen.

To quote a post I wrote in 2008:




LeBron's performance in the 2007 playoffs:

LeBron's stats in the 1st round (against Washington)
- 27.7 pts, 8.5 rbs, 7.5 ast, 1.75 stls, .75 blk, 1.75 turnovers.
- FG: 42.5% (8.5/20) // 3P: 26.7% (1/3.75) // FT: 81.3%
- Hollinger Game Score avg = 24.575

LeBron's stats in the 2nd round (against the Nets)
- 24.6 pts, 7.33 rbs, 8.5 ast, 1.17 stls, .33 blk, 2.83 turnovers.
- FG: 42.3% (7.8/18.5) // 3P: 30.8% (1.33/4.33) // FT: 75.4%
- Hollinger Game Score avg = 19.97

LeBron's stats in the East Finals (against Detroit)
- 25.6 pts, 9.17 rbs, 8.5 ast, 2.67 stls, .5 blk, 3.17 turnovers.
- FG: 44.9% (8.83/19.67) // 3P: 35.7% (0.83/2.33) // FT: 74.1%
- Hollinger Game Score avg = 22.92

Average of those 3 series BEFORE San Antonio :
- 26.03 pts, 8.33 rbs, 8.17 ast, 1.86 stls, .53 blk, 2.58 turnovers.
- FG: 43.2% (8.38/19.39) // 3P: 31.1% (1.39/3.47) // FT: 76.9%
- Hollinger Game Score avg = 22.488


LeBron's stats in the NBA Finals (against San Antonio)
- 22 pts, 7 rbs, 6.75 ast, 1 stl, .5 blk, 5.75 turnovers.
- FG: 35.6% (8/22.5) // 3P: 18.2% (1/5.5) // FT: 69.0%
- Hollinger Game Score avg = 10.575

In short, he was worse in every single statistical category : minus 4 points, 1.33 rebounds and 1.42 assists from his playoffs average. All his percentages drop dramatically and he more than doubled his turnovers. His game score is less than half his playoffs' average.

Those are Bruce Bowen's stats for you right there :)

(data taken from basketball-reference.com)

[100%duncan]

The eleven of us that were watching know the truth. Lebron got shut the fuck down.

[barakz21]

Did not shut him down maybe, but did way more than "slowed him down a bit" tbh. We're not talking about a regular defender here, we're talking about Bruce Bowen.

To quote a post I wrote in 2008:

Thank you, kind sir, for providing the stats to support what I said in response to other gentleman. :toast

[Agloco]

But back to back automatically makes one no?

And yes I have heard people mention the Rockets "dynasty".

There must be a Pistons dynasty then no? Back to back champs with 3 straight Finals appearances. Just saying.

[DeadlyDynasty]

There must be a Pistons dynasty then no? Back to back champs with 3 straight Finals appearances. Just saying.

I'll give them Dynasty status for repping 3 straight seasons, including winning b2b titles. Rockets, no.

[UZER]

The "only back to back equals dynasty" is stupid. But hey, to each his own.

[PublicOption]

Our dynasty runs from 1997-2013 and if it weren't for the league changing rules, letting teams make ridiculously one sides trades (celtics, lakers) and some ridiculously called playoff games .la vs sac game 6. The spurs would be a dynasty. Ours is a dynasty not held back by other teams but by a conspiracy of an organization that would not let a small market team become a dynasty and ruin his league. David Stern is leaving this year and if the spurs win the title it's payback for all the bullshit he has put this organization and city through for his ratings and his leagues popularity. If the spurs win this year it's to make amends,