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desflood
07-13-2005, 09:58 AM
Mystery 'sex change' has curious flocking to Myanmar monk-to-be Tue Jul 12,10:53 PM ET


HLAING THAR YAR, Myanmar (AFP) - Thin Sandar, a chicken seller in Myanmar, had always dreamed of being a man. When she inexplicably grew a penis last month, the 21-year-old treated it as an awe-inspiring omen -- as have the thousands of stunned villagers who have traveled to a pagoda to see him.

"On the morning of the full moon day of June 21, I noticed my thing (sex organ) was not the same as before," Thin Sandar, who now goes by the male name Than Sein, told AFP in an interview at his home.

"And my breasts disappeared," Than Sein added. "So I called out and showed it all to my mom and dad. It was very strange."

Strange enough that he has attracted significant attention in this deeply superstitious country, where the unexplained can quickly be exalted to hold powerful spiritual significance.

People privately concede Than Sein is a hermaphrodite. Several medical experts have examined him, and he awaits test results from the central women's hospital.

But few have come forward with a medical explanation of the transformation as they await an official report by the health ministry, whose experts have also examined Than Sein.

"We can not say right now if she has really undergone a sudden gender change," said a township official who declined to be named, adding that Than Sein's birth certificate shows that he was born a girl.

"It can be confirmed when we receive the report from the health ministry, although some medical checkups have shown her to be a true man," he added.

Hermaphrodites, also known as intersexuals, are often born with ambiguous genitalia, or have both testicular and ovarian tissue in a single person.

Medical doctor Aye Sanda Khaing put it in layman's terms in a local journal: "Her penis appeared at the site of her clitoris," the doctor was quoted as saying.

Regardless of the official findings, local villagers and other curious Myanmar nationals are flocking to the Aung Myay Thar Yar pagoda, in this new satellite township 19 kilometers (12 miles) from Yangon, to see Than Sein for themselves and make donations to him or the temple.

Up to 400 gather at the pagoda each day, often in a courtyard under colorful umbrellas to ward off the sun's rays, waiting for the chance to talk with and touch Than Sein.

"I have never heard of anything like this, so I came to see him," 21-year-old housewife Thandar Win told AFP.

"If I was not married, then I too would want to become a man!"

When word spread of Than Sein's transformation, locals raced to his home to see for themselves. Authorities, sensing a possible security hazard -- and, perhaps, an opportunity -- hastily arranged for him to be moved to the pagoda to accommodate more visitors.

Than Sein appeared comfortable with the sudden attention in the new surroundings. Wearing a checkered longyi, the traditional Myanmar pants commonly worn by men, he sat on a rug in the pagoda's side building, flanked by his parents.

"I was so happy," father Kyaw Htay, 46, said about his son's developments. "I wanted other sons so they could offer themselves as Buddhist monks, but I had only two daughters."

Occasionally Than Sein stepped out to talk with excited visitors, who shook his hand, stroked his arm, and wished him well.

A Myanmar state television crew has already interviewed him and awaits the military junta's permission to air the broadcast nationwide.

As he waits for the final test results, Than Sein said he firmly believed he had been transformed, and would enter the monkhood for a period of time and seek spiritual contemplation and guidance before deciding whether to marry and raise a family.

"Whenever I went to the pagoda I prayed to become a man in my next life," he said, referring to the Buddhist concept of rebirth.

"Now I'm happy because my dream won't have to wait until my next life, it's already come true."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/myanmargenderoffbeat;_ylt=AoRaQL6hhb92APQsSLtGUO_t iBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Useruser666
07-13-2005, 10:16 AM
Ill take your word for it forum.

CosmicCowboy
07-13-2005, 10:53 AM
dang...now the dude just needs to go to the megaplex and get himself a set of ben wa balls and he will have the whole package...:lol

mookie2001
07-13-2005, 11:06 AM
hey religious rightwingers
since id bet gay marriage is illegal in wherever if he gets married to a...girl or opposite sex is he a sinner who will burn in hell for eternity?

cmc$purs
07-13-2005, 11:35 AM
innie & outtie :wow

go fuck your self :lol

ALVAREZ6
07-13-2005, 11:37 AM
:wtf :wtf :wtf

żżż☼???

Extra Stout
07-13-2005, 12:28 PM
I've heard of this happening before.

If they were to do a chromosomal sample on the person, it would be XY.

SWC Bonfire
07-13-2005, 01:38 PM
hey religious rightwingers
since id bet gay marriage is illegal in wherever if he gets married to a...girl or opposite sex is he a sinner who will burn in hell for eternity?

I don't know, but if he was a feminist I bet he hates himself now. :lol

SpursWoman
07-13-2005, 01:41 PM
Hmmmmmm.....that could be pretty convenient..........

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-13-2005, 02:35 PM
There was a hermaphrodite that was pretty famous in the late 70's and early 80's. Did some nude photo shoots. Very attractive if I remember correctly. I hope that doesn't make me gay.

Slomo
07-13-2005, 02:37 PM
There was a hermaphrodite that was pretty famous in the late 70's and early 80's. Did some nude photo shoots. Very attractive if I remember correctly. I hope that doesn't make me gay.
Half gay? :lol

Shelly
07-13-2005, 02:37 PM
There was a hermaphrodite that was pretty famous in the late 70's and early 80's. Did some nude photo shoots. Very attractive if I remember correctly. I hope that doesn't make me gay.

Are you talking about Jamie Lee Curtis? She's rumored to be one.

ShoogarBear
07-13-2005, 02:39 PM
Well, now at least we know there's hope for Vince Carter.

jalbre6
07-13-2005, 03:05 PM
There was a hermaphrodite that was pretty famous in the late 70's and early 80's. Did some nude photo shoots. Very attractive if I remember correctly. I hope that doesn't make me gay.

Are you thinking of the Bond girl that wound up being a hermaphrodite?

desflood
07-13-2005, 03:21 PM
I don't think she was a hermaphrodite, she was a man who got a sex change.

jalbre6
07-13-2005, 03:25 PM
I don't think she was a hermaphrodite, she was a man who got a sex change.

You're right.


http://www.007forever.com/films/faq011.html

Sex Change?

Caroline Cossey, other wise known as Tula, was a woman and working runway model by the time she had a small role in "For Your Eyes Only". In the film, she had no speaking part, and was simply a pool girl enjoying the sun at the villa of Hector Gonzalez. Her claim to fame has been widely exaggerated by the press and entertainment media.

Caroline, or rather Barry, in her teen years physically matured as any other young man. Barry had the normal amount of facial/body hair for a 16 year old and functioning genitalia. Barry most likely had less testoserone and more estrogen then average but this is not abnormal.

Caroline`s being born a man was certainly a mistake by nature but the exact cause of transexuality is still not known by medicine - only theories. What is known is that it causes extreme emotional pain in the affected person. It`s not any different from many diseases where the cause is not known but the treatment relieves the suffering.

Caroline`s offical position is that she has a genetic abnormality called Mosaicism (also known as Klienfelders Syndrome). She has had genetic testing which has proven she indeed has this abnormality.

What happens is occassionaly extra `X` chromosones get pasted on. Some of her sex chromosones are `XY` but others are `XXY` and XXXY`. This syndrome, in more severe forms, can cause mental retardation. The medical community is not convinced that this necessarily causes transexuality and many people live life as normal males.

This is NOT the same as being a 100% `XXY` she-male(such as several athletes in the Olympics have been). It is not the same as being a hermaphrodite either (both sets of sex organs).

The reason Caroline is so attractive is because she is a `first wave` transitioner. First Wave transitioners are transexuals who start female hormones in their school years(age 15-25). These tend to be the beautiful transexuals because the harsher male characteristics(facial hair, thick skin, thick big nose, thinning hair, prominent browbone, etc) have not happened. Yet, they tend to have the positive male characteristics of being tall and slender (think of how Super Models look). They also age very gracefully.

Transexualism falls in the realm of an actual medical syndrome which is why it is eventually treated surgically. It sharply differs from being gay, which is a preference, or transvestism, which is a fetish or hobby.

Caroline is not making any public appearances or giving interviews currently. She still models and runs a business in Atlanta. The early 1990s were so tramatic for her that she is enjoying her life with her husband. She is 45 years old now (her handsome husband is 35 years old).

The "mayor`s office" of Atlanta gave Caroline Cossey the key to the city. The mayor later recieved some protests and he reponded by saying the office gave her the key without his authority. In reality he wanted to appease the gay community by giving her the key but still wanted an escape hatch in case the conservative community complained. And they did.

At one point Caroline wanted to open a night club in Atlanta similar to the Lido in Paris. This never happened. She is a private person and gets tired of the exposure.

SpursWoman
07-13-2005, 04:08 PM
The next thing I am gonna see is a thread labeled "Eating your shit is nutritious". :lol



I was totally not expecting that.



:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

SpursWoman
07-13-2005, 04:17 PM
Haha I'm glad you like that. But really, what HAVENT we seen on this forum? :lol


Actually, though....I seem to remember somewhere a thread about the nutritional value of shit, but it might have been from before we moved from ezboard.

:lol

desflood
07-13-2005, 04:17 PM
Sorry, this is as close as I can get :lol

Sunday April 11, 4:09 PM

Pick your nose and eat snot to stay healthy!


Washington, Apr 11(ANI): It may sound weird, but an Austrian doctor believes that picking your nose and eating what you retrieve is one of the best ways to stay healthy.

Dr. Friedrich Bischinger, an Innsbruck-based lung specialist believes that people who pick their noses with their fingers are healthy, happier and probably better in tune with their bodies.

He says society should adopt a new approach to nose-picking and encourage children to take it up.

"With the finger you can get to places you just can't reach with a handkerchief, keeping your nose far cleaner.And eating the dry remains of what you pull out is a great way of strengthening the body's immune system," Ananova quotes Dr. Bischinger, as saying.

"Medically it makes great sense and is a perfectly natural thing to do. In terms of the immune system the nose is a filter in which a great deal of bacteria are collected, and when this mixture arrives in the intestines it works just like a medicine," he added.

He pointed out that children happily pick their noses, yet by the time they have become adults they have stopped under pressure from a society that has branded it disgusting and anti-social.

"I would recommend a new approach where children are encouraged to pick their nose. It is a completely natural response and medically a good idea as well," he said. (ANI)

Hang on, let me find the link :lol :lol

http://in.news.yahoo.com/040411/139/2ci0w.html

jalbre6
07-13-2005, 04:22 PM
Actually, though....I seem to remember somewhere a thread about the nutritional value of shit, but it might have been from before we moved from ezboard.

:lol

I remember a thread on the nutritional content of semen.

SpursWoman
07-13-2005, 04:29 PM
Sorry, this is as close as I can get :lol


:lmao :lmao


Even better: Nutritional Value of CHICKEN SHIT

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11681699&dopt=Abstract


Nutritional value of fresh and composted poultry manure for house fly (Diptera: Muscidae) larvae.

Moon RD, Hinton JL, O'Rourke SD, Schmidt DR.

Department of Entomology, University of Minnesota, St. Paul 55108, USA. [email protected]

A sand dilution assay was developed to study how composting affects the nutritional value of stored laying hen manure for larvae of the house fly, Musca domestica L. Equal numbers of eggs were inoculated into graded amounts of stock manure and incubated under standardized moisture conditions. Survival and mass per emerging adult diminished with progressively lower supplies of manure per larva, whether the manure was diluted into clean, white sand or placed on top of an equal volume of sand. Mass of adults per original egg was an increasing linear function of log, manure supply, with extrapolated lower supply threshold, S(L) = 0.06 g per egg. It is proposed that S(L) is a measure of a substrate's nutritional value--the greater the threshold, the lower its value. Dilution of the same stock manure in loam or sandy loam reduced the manure's apparent nutritional value, and dehydration of the stock manure to 20% water before rehydration to 70% also reduced nutritional value. Assays of bulk samples from replicated piles of laying hen manure mixed with sunflower hulls indicated the mixture was nutritionally equivalent to the stock manure, but that 3-4 wk of subsequent aerobic, thermophilic composting reduced it to approximately 10% of its initial value. These results suggest that composting may be a useful technique for reducing the fly breeding potential of laying hen manure and other substrates that must be stored before spreading and incorporation on crop land.

:lol

ShoogarBear
07-13-2005, 04:46 PM
A classic essay available from Princeton University Press:

http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/video/frankfurt/

http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/images/k7929.gif

sa_butta
07-13-2005, 04:54 PM
Sorry, this is as close as I can get :lol

Sunday April 11, 4:09 PM

Pick your nose and eat snot to stay healthy!


Washington, Apr 11(ANI): It may sound weird, but an Austrian doctor believes that picking your nose and eating what you retrieve is one of the best ways to stay healthy.

Dr. Friedrich Bischinger, an Innsbruck-based lung specialist believes that people who pick their noses with their fingers are healthy, happier and probably better in tune with their bodies.

He says society should adopt a new approach to nose-picking and encourage children to take it up.

"With the finger you can get to places you just can't reach with a handkerchief, keeping your nose far cleaner.And eating the dry remains of what you pull out is a great way of strengthening the body's immune system," Ananova quotes Dr. Bischinger, as saying.

"Medically it makes great sense and is a perfectly natural thing to do. In terms of the immune system the nose is a filter in which a great deal of bacteria are collected, and when this mixture arrives in the intestines it works just like a medicine," he added.

He pointed out that children happily pick their noses, yet by the time they have become adults they have stopped under pressure from a society that has branded it disgusting and anti-social.

"I would recommend a new approach where children are encouraged to pick their nose. It is a completely natural response and medically a good idea as well," he said. (ANI)

Hang on, let me find the link :lol :lol

http://in.news.yahoo.com/040411/139/2ci0w.htmlSo the next time you are at a stop light and someone is picking their nose think of them as a health nut.:lol

SWC Bonfire
07-13-2005, 05:05 PM
Boing.

:lmao