LeBron James: Tim Duncan is most dominant player of last 15 years

[playblair]

Probably one of the best players to ever play the game of basketball. If I just look at the last 15 years, he's probably been the most consistent, most dominant player that we've had as far as 15 years all together. He's won four titles, multiple All-Stars, MVP, and so on and so on.I think he doesn't get a lot of recognition because he's not flashy like a lot of guys are. He's not jumping over people and high-flying and doing the things that attracts people to the game. But I think true basketball, true IQ people, players know how great he is. What else can you say?


http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22362572/lebron-james-tim-duncan-is-most-dominant-player-of-last-15-years

[GaryJohnston]

Fear brings about the appropriate respect

:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt:.....:lobt2:

[Arcadian]

Yes, he is. Since Jordan retired (1998):

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Lebron
4. Kobe
5. Dirk/Garnett/Nash

[Splits]

These pre-series press is a bunch of multimillionaires jerking each other off. Can't wait for another 6 hours

[Big Empty]

i like the respect in basketball but i wish there was alot more trash talking lol like boxing

[scramby eggs]

I agree with all that except Garnett. No way he makes it on that list over Nash, Pierce, Iverson,

[Arcadian]

I agree with all that except Garnett. No way he makes it on that list over Nash, Pierce, Iverson,

Really? Consider Garnett at his peak: his 2004 MVP season. (He was edged out by Duncan in 2003.) That year, he was the most versatile offensive player in the game (played a lot of point forward), and the best defensive player bar none. Per game stats:

24 ppg, 14 rpg, 5 apg, 2.2 bpg, 1.5 spg

He was like Lebron James that year, except with a better post game and the best rebounder in the league. I would take 04 Garnett over Kobe's best year, to be perfectly honest. The only players better at their peaks were Duncan and Shaq (after Jordan).

I get that he never led the Wolves to the title, and that tarnishes his legacy for a lot of people. But if we're talking about individual greatness, he's way up there.

[baseline bum]

I agree with all that except Garnett. No way he makes it on that list over Nash, Pierce, Iverson,

Really? How can anyone put Nash or Iverson over Garnett? I don't see that at all.

[scramby eggs]

Really? Consider Garnett at his peak: his 2004 MVP season. (He was edged out by Duncan in 2003.) That year, he was the most versatile offensive player in the game (played a lot of point forward), and the best defensive player bar none. Per game stats:

24 ppg, 14 rpg, 5 apg, 2.2 bpg, 1.5 spg

He was like Lebron James that year, except with a better post game and the best rebounder in the league. I would take 04 Garnett over Kobe's best year, to be perfectly honest. The only players better at their peaks were Duncan and Shaq (after Jordan).

I get that he never led the Wolves to the title, and that tarnishes his legacy for a lot of people. But if we're talking about individual greatness, he's way up there.


I see your point, I guess my view is just skewed because we never had any problems with Garnett-led teams. I still believe Nash was a more dominate player during that span

[CosmicCowboy]

i like the respect in basketball but i wish there was alot more trash talking lol like boxing

And then like Tim, like Bites LeBron's ear off when he tries to dunk over him!

http://guyism.com/wp-content/uploads/mike-tyson.jpg

[Arcadian]

I see your point, I guess my view is just skewed because we never had any problems with Garnett-led teams. I still believe Nash was a more dominate player during that span

Meh...I will always take a post player (and a 2-way player, who excels at both offense and defense) over a point guard who plays little to no defense.

Re: your original post, we never had trouble with Pierce or Ivers:loln led teams either.

But I do respect Nash, so if it makes you happy, I'll revise my #5 to include him.

[tesseractive]

Yes, he is. Since Jordan retired (1998):

1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Lebron
4. Kobe
5. Dirk/Garnett/Nash
Good list. But I've got Kobe over the fat man -- Shaq had the best natural gifts out of that entire list (even LeBron), but he didn't work nearly hard enough, and we forget that he had to make everything about him even more than Kobe does. Kobe is a relentless worker who simply does everything in his power to succeed. Kobe wasn't the star of all his title teams, and his 5 rings don't outrank Duncan, but he was pivotal in all of them, and busted his ass even when the Lakers around him were terrible in the mid 00s, unlike, e.g., Shaq's disastrous landing in Phoenix.

1. Duncan
2. Kobe
3. Shaq
4. LeBron
5. Dirk, barely

I expect LeBron to end up at #1 or #2 by the time he retires, but he hasn't submitted as good a body of work yet.

[CosmicCowboy]

Go watch a rerun of game 4 of the 2007 finals. Adversity is when champions shine and don't mail it in.

[Arcadian]

Good list. But I've got Kobe over the fat man [...] I expect LeBron to end up at #1 or #2 by the time he retires, but he hasn't submitted as good a body of work yet.

My list is more about the best players at their peaks, rather than accumulated bodies of work. What you said about Shaq and Kobe is true, but Shaq was still a better player at his peak. If I had to build a team around 2000 Shaq or 2006 Kobe (or any Kobe), I'd go with Shaq for sure. And current Lebron > Kobe's best year.

[SpursIndonesia]

My list is more about the best players at their peaks, rather than accumulated bodies of work. What you said about Shaq and Kobe is true, but Shaq was still a better player at his peak. If I had to build a team around 2000 Shaq or 2006 Kobe (or any Kobe), I'd go with Shaq for sure. And current Lebron > Kobe's best year.

Shaq at his peak was & is better than anyone in his generation, including Duncan & James. Granted that peak were only really lasted for 2-3 years.

[Arcadian]

Shaq at his peak was & is better than anyone in his generation, including Duncan & James. Granted that peak were only really lasted for 2-3 years.

Nah, I'll take 2002/2003 Timmy over Shaq's best. He could beat you in more ways, and was just as dominant in the post.

[TimmyDuncan21]

Nah, I'll take 2002/2003 Timmy over Shaq's best. He could beat you in more ways, and was just as dominant in the post.

Yup!