Obama appoints Rice as national security adviser

[BobaFett1]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/06/05/obama-rice-donilon-national-security-adviser/2391019/


Still cannot get over Obama thinking he above the law.

[CosmicCowboy]

Payback for taking one for the team.

But how the fuck is she qualified to be NSA?

[boutons_deux]

Barry with a BIG FUCK ALL Y'ALL CRACKAS to the Fox/Repug Benghazi scandal fabricators.

[ChumpDumper]

Payback for taking one for the team.

But how the fuck is she qualified to be NSA?How is she not qualified?

[CosmicCowboy]

How is she not qualified?

Oh, Please, Chump.

Maybe that her extensive resume of black rights issues and African issues has very fucking little to do with being NSA?

[bluebellmaniac]

Oh, Please, Chump.

Maybe that her extensive resume of black rights issues and African issues has very fucking little to do with being NSA?

LOL! Do you even know who she is? You think she is a black rights activist? OMG!!! LOL!!!!

[Rogue]

Like that's the worst appointment he's made...

[ChumpDumper]

Oh, Please, Chump.

Maybe that her extensive resume of black rights issues and African issues has very fucking little to do with being NSA?


LOL! Do you even know who she is? You think she is a black rights activist? OMG!!! LOL!!!!Yeah, you might want to fact check the email listbot that told you that, CC.

[Wild Cobra]

looks like the NSA will now be a joke too.

[Chomag]

Great, I feel safer already...

[boutons_deux]

Great, I feel safer already...

the NSA already knows how you feel

[BobaFett1]

boutons_deux is a sheep. He defend his Messiah,

[George Gervin's Afro]

boutons_deux is a sheep. He defend his Messiah,

lol..irony..

[BobaFett1]

lol..irony..

yes

[CosmicCowboy]

Yeah, you might want to fact check the email listbot that told you that, CC.

Why don't you read her resume?

[CosmicCowboy]

LOL! Do you even know who she is? You think she is a black rights activist? OMG!!! LOL!!!!

Do you even know who she is dumbass? Her entire career before the UN appointment has essentially been focused on Africa.

[ChumpDumper]

Why don't you read her resume?I did. You need to tell me what you think is required for that position and give examples of others you already know and aren't going to look up right after you read this.

[CosmicCowboy]

Seems it would help to have experience with intelligence, the military, the CIA, NSA, etc. Hardly seems like the place for a global social worker.

[ChumpDumper]

Eh, her time at the NSC probably gave her experience with all of that.

[CosmicCowboy]

Eh, her time at the NSC probably gave her experience with all of that.

check her sub specialty at the NSC chump. Emerging African nations.

[ChumpDumper]

check her sub specialty at the NSC chump. Emerging African nations.and this changes what?

[Winehole23]

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[CosmicCowboy]

C'mon Obama apologists...Seriously?

Besides her unquestioned loyalty to protect Obama do you really think she was the best the country had to offer as National Security Advisor?

[ChumpDumper]

I agree she would have made a better Secretary of State, but we'll have to see. Condi Rice was a failure as NSA no matter what her qualifications were.

[George Gervin's Afro]

C'mon Obama apologists...Seriously?

Besides her unquestioned loyalty to protect Obama do you really think she was the best the country had to offer as National Security Advisor?

All presidents prior to this one appointed people to positions ,in part, becasue of loyalty. the feigned outrage fails to move me in a direction that finds something wrong with this appointment

[Winehole23]

CC seems to be suggesting Susan Rice is an affirmative action hire; eligible only by dint of her gender and race.

[CosmicCowboy]

CC seems to be suggesting Susan Rice is an affirmative action hire; eligible only by dint of her gender and race.

Winehole seems to be hitting the wine too soon. I said nothing of the sort.

[CosmicCowboy]

All presidents prior to this one appointed people to positions ,in part, becasue of loyalty. the feigned outrage fails to move me in a direction that finds something wrong with this appointment

No feigned outrage here, bitch. Just a statement of fact.

[George Gervin's Afro]

No feigned outrage here, bitch. Just a statement of fact.

calm down john wayne..... it's fact that all presidents do this.. so why are you outraged now?

[Winehole23]

Winehole seems to be hitting the wine too soon. I said nothing of the sort.you suggested her professional interest in emerging African countries disqualifies her in some way. care to spell that out?

[CosmicCowboy]

you suggested her professional interest in emerging African countries disqualifies her in some way. care to spell that out?

Yeah. When I think of a National Security Advisor I think of someone that has actual experience and credentials in national security like Colin Powell had.

[clambake]

credentials don't mean much when you lie your way through a UN presentation.

[CosmicCowboy]

credentials don't mean much when you lie your way through a UN presentation.

You mean like Rice on Benghazi?

[CosmicCowboy]

I get it. Y'all are Obama supporters. You knee jerk support his choice, qualified or not. This was Obama just shooting the finger at Congress for not allowing her to be Secretary of State.

[Th'Pusher]

I get it. Y'all are Obama supporters. You knee jerk support his choice, qualified or not. This was Obama just shooting the finger at Congress for not allowing her to be Secretary of State.
See post #3 in this thread from the great buttons :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

See post #3 in this thread from the great buttons :lol

I agree. It was an irrational choice made for all the wrong reasons by a bad president.

[Th'Pusher]

I agree. It was an irrational choice made for all the wrong reasons by a bad president.
Meh. She is not completely unqualified. Lets see how she does.

[CosmicCowboy]

Meh. She is not completely unqualified. Lets see how she does.

:lol

It's not like we have a choice.

[clambake]

You mean like Rice on Benghazi?

i never praised rice's credentials like you did powell's.

[Winehole23]

Yeah. When I think of a National Security Advisor I think of someone that has actual experience and credentials in national security like Colin Powell had.four years on the National Security Council doesn't count, why? is that not actual experience?

[CosmicCowboy]

What years was she ON the National Security Council and what exact position did she hold on the council?

[CosmicCowboy]

A little help for you...


The NSC is chaired by the President. Its regular attendees (both statutory and non-statutory) are the Vice President, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Defense, and the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is the statutory military advisor to the Council, and the Director of National Intelligence is the intelligence advisor. The Chief of Staff to the President, Counsel to the President, and the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy are invited to attend any NSC meeting. The Attorney General and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget are invited to attend meetings pertaining to their responsibilities. The heads of other executive departments and agencies, as well as other senior officials, are invited to attend meetings of the NSC when appropriate.

[Winehole23]

1993-1997. Rice was an under-Secretary of State.

If you have a point, please share it,.

[CosmicCowboy]

1993-1997. Rice was an under-Secretary of State Africa Desk

If you have a point, please share it,.

That's not even close to being on the NSC.

busted.

[CosmicCowboy]

BTW, you have your dates wrong too. It was 97-2002

[Winehole23]

is something awry factually in this account?


Rice served in the Clinton administration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_administration) in various capacities: at the National Security Council (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Council) (NSC) from 1993 to 1997; as director for international organizations and peacekeeping from 1993 to 1995 and as special assistant to the president and senior director for African affairs from 1995 to 1997.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rice

[CosmicCowboy]

is something awry factually in this account?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rice

What does that have to do with being on the National Security Council?

[Winehole23]

whether on not Rice held a title at the NSC, attending NSC meetings over four years would seem to qualify as relevant NatSec experience at a high level.

why you're belittling the "Africa desk" somewhat escapes me. care to fill us in?

[Winehole23]

you consider Africa to be geopolitically unimportant, or something like that?

[CosmicCowboy]

whether on not Rice held a title at the NSC, attending NSC meetings over four years would seem to qualify as relevant NatSec experience at a high level.

why you're belittling the "Africa desk" somewhat escapes me. care to fill us in?

Where does it say she attended NSC meetings for 4 years? I assume you know that anyone that holds an executive position at the State Department is an "Assistant Secretary of State", right? There are like 30 of them.

[CosmicCowboy]

you consider Africa to be geopolitically unimportant, or something like that?

LOL strawman

You claimed she was on the NSC and I blew your claim all to shit.

[Winehole23]

best choice for the position? I doubt it, if we're going by CVs, but I also have no idea who she was up against.

getting along with the president probably counted for something. the Prez is entitled to have advisors of his/her own choosing right?

[Winehole23]

LOL strawman

You claimed she was on the NSC and I blew your claim all to shit.nothing factually awry, then.

I'm not sure what you think you blew to shit, but that don't bother me much.

[Winehole23]

why you're belittling the "Africa desk" somewhat escapes me. care to fill us in?

[boutons_deux]

you right wingers hate govt, so why the concern if Barry appoints someone who is, iyo, not qualified?

Where was your concern when dubya put Brownie, horse show organizer, at the head of FEMA, aluminum-tits Ashcroft, then Gonzo to head DoJ, etc, etc, in dubya's term?

don't all y'all actually WANT the hated govt to fail, so you can self-fulfill your hate-govt objective and recruit more haters?

[CosmicCowboy]

nothing factually awry, then.

I'm not sure what you think you blew to shit, but that don't bother me much.



four years on the National Security Council doesn't count, why? is that not actual experience?

She was never on the National Security Council.

[Winehole23]

She was never on the National Security Council.beg pardon, but so what? she was invited to attend its meetings over four years. it couldn't have been that big a room.

[Winehole23]

criticizing Obama's choice of advisors falls in the category of straining at molehills, in the leadership area.

[Winehole23]

btw, is there something disreputable about serving on the Africa desk at State? you never cleared that up.

[CosmicCowboy]

beg pardon, but so what? she was invited to attend its meetings over four years. it couldn't have been that big a room.

source?

[Winehole23]

on how big the room was, or whether Susan Rice was ever in it?

[Winehole23]

if you want to say she isn't the best choice, fine, but claiming she has no relevant experience is just silly.

[CosmicCowboy]

criticizing Obama's choice of advisors falls in the category of straining at molehills, in the leadership area.

how else do you judge a "leader"?

[CosmicCowboy]

btw, is there something disreputable about serving on the Africa desk at State? you never cleared that up.

:lol Boy, you just won't give that one up will you? The point was Africa has been her lifelong specialty even at the Brookings institute (her previous employer) . Is there even a top 10 national security threat in Africa?

[Winehole23]

how else do you judge a "leader"?lots of other ways. continuity in the war on terror and the development of the surveillance state are far more momentous, tbh. Obamacare, official secrecy, criminalization of newsgathering, etc..

[Winehole23]

:lol Boy, you just won't give that one up will you? The point was Africa has been her lifelong specialty even at the Brookings institute (her previous employer) . so what if it's her lifelong specialty? you just won't give this one up, will you?


Is there even a top 10 national security threat in Africa?I don't know; maybe there's more to it than that.

go ask Africom.

[Winehole23]

there must be some good reason why a new US command was created in Africa.

[BobaFett1]

:lol Boy, you just won't give that one up will you? The point was Africa has been her lifelong specialty even at the Brookings institute (her previous employer) . Is there even a top 10 national security threat in Africa?

:lol Winehole23 defends Obama no matter what.

[Winehole23]

I occasionally taunt his boneheaded detractors. there's a subtle difference you're probably unalive to. my comment at #65 was hardly meant as a compliment to Obama.

[George Gervin's Afro]

:lol honey boo boo whines about Obama no matter what.

[boutons_deux]

:lol Boy, you just won't give that one up will you? The point was Africa has been her lifelong specialty even at the Brookings institute (her previous employer) . Is there even a top 10 national security threat in Africa?

Africom has commandos, drones, etc in Africa. try to keep up.

[CosmicCowboy]

Africom has commandos, drones, etc in Africa. try to keep up.

:lmao

you really are a dumb motherfucker. I didn't say those backwards ass africans were angels, just not a huge national security threat.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Boy, you just won't give that one up will you? The point was Africa has been her lifelong specialty even at the Brookings institute (her previous employer) . Is there even a top 10 national security threat in Africa?Well, she's much less likely to shift US focus to her "life's work" in stark contrast to Condi Rice, who wanted to treat Russia as the main threat instead of stateless terra. All her qualifications and life's work led her to a rather epochal fuckup.

[RandomGuy]

:lol Boy, you just won't give that one up will you? The point was Africa has been her lifelong specialty even at the Brookings institute (her previous employer) . Is there even a top 10 national security threat in Africa?

Yes, actually.

You really should read PM Barnett's book, the Pentagon's New Map, and the reasons behind AFRICOM.

Welcome to the interconnected world that is vastly different than the one you, or I for that matter, grew up in.

Change has happened.

[RandomGuy]

Well, she's much less likely to shift US focus to her "life's work" in stark contrast to Condi Rice, who wanted to treat Russia as the main threat instead of stateless terra. All her qualifications and life's work led her to a rather epochal fuckup.

Eyup.

That is one way in which I think conservatives in general tend to be really really bad at the Secretary of State job. The entire mindset it takes to *be* a conservative leads one to be unable to deal with change and complexity effectively.