The Trayvon Martin Case

[Creepn]

The trial is nearing in a few days.

So far, the audio tester who has tested audio for the FBI for many years, has determined that it was not Zimmerman's voice screaming for help. Pretty devestating to the defense. The defense started attacking the credibility of the tester. We will be seeing a lot of attempts of character assasination during the trial imo.

Also the tester said that there is a less than 1% failure rate with those machines.

[boutons_deux]

Our very own congenital contrarian Wild Goober would that the 1% as the single reason to acquit. :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

I'm familiar with audio analysis strictly from a layman's/musician/engineer's pov. Still, a 1% failure rate is difficult to believe. Not questioning the results, but there's a fair amount of meatware in addition to the machines making voiceprint analysis possible.

[Wild Cobra]

The trial is nearing in a few days.

So far, the audio tester who has tested audio for the FBI for many years, has determined that it was not Zimmerman's voice screaming for help. Pretty devestating to the defense. The defense started attacking the credibility of the tester. We will be seeing a lot of attempts of character assasination during the trial imo.

Also the tester said that there is a less than 1% failure rate with those machines.
Link please.

[TeyshaBlue]

Really, really difficult to find.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-audio-ruling-20130607,0,903275.story

[Wild Cobra]

Oh.

I thought you meant the actual FBI. Not this guy trying to muster business for a new unproven software.

[Wild Cobra]

LOL...

You guys buying this?

A reenactment that doesn't have Zimmerman pumped up with adrenalin?

There is only a total of 2.7 seconds of audio that does not have other noise in it. The volume was low, the data rate is low, and compressed.

I like the questions at the end. where the guy admits to more sales after his notoriety in this case and that he is the promoter of the software.

[Creepn]

Really, really difficult to find.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-audio-ruling-20130607,0,903275.story

"Trayvon screams, 'I'm begging you'". That's a new tidbit for me.

Wow. that's pretty sad man. I seriously doubt that a man with a gun who is brave enough to follow a stranger and confront him would scream, "I'm begging you."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

LOL...

You guys buying this?

A reenactment that doesn't have Zimmerman pumped up with adrenalin?

There is only a total of 2.7 seconds of audio that does not have other noise in it. The volume was low, the data rate is low, and compressed.

I like the questions at the end. where the guy admits to more sales after his notoriety in this case and that he is the promoter of the software.

Thanks counselor, does the defense have anything else on this matter? We should change your name to white cobra.

[Creepn]

LOL...

You guys buying this?

A reenactment that doesn't have Zimmerman pumped up with adrenalin?

There is only a total of 2.7 seconds of audio that does not have other noise in it. The volume was low, the data rate is low, and compressed.

I like the questions at the end. where the guy admits to more sales after his notoriety in this case and that he is the promoter of the software.

I'm sure you read the part that other voice testers ruled out Zimmerman's voice? How many have to come to similar conclusions that maybe that was actually Trayvon screaming?

Let go your internet pride of being wrong for over a year in the name of justice.

[TeyshaBlue]

"Trayvon screams, 'I'm begging you'". That's a new tidbit for me.

Wow. that's pretty sad man. I seriously doubt that a man with a gun who is brave enough to follow a stranger and confront him would scream, "I'm begging you."

Yeah...can't really disagree.

[sjacquemotte]

When police arrived, Trayvon was face down in the grass with a fatal bullet wound to the chest. Zimmerman was standing with blood on his face and the back of his head and grass stains on his back, according to The Orlando Sentinel.

[sjacquemotte]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/opinion/blow-the-curious-case-of-trayvon-martin.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Although he seemed a little too pro-active, it seems like it was self-defense. I wonder if tripn would be this into it had trayvon been white and zimmerman black

[Creepn]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/opinion/blow-the-curious-case-of-trayvon-martin.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Although he seemed a little too pro-active, it seems like it was self-defense. I wonder if tripn would be this into it had trayvon been white and zimmerman black

Tripn? First time you ever address me and you call me tripn? Fuck you.

If race reversed, black guy would've been arrested the same night, open and shut case Johnny.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm sure you read the part that other voice testers ruled out Zimmerman's voice? How many have to come to similar conclusions that maybe that was actually Trayvon screaming?

Let go your internet pride of being wrong for over a year in the name of justice.
The FBI did not rule it out. This guy marketing his product did. He is the only one.

Consensus is not fact, especially when liberals, socialists, etc. outnumber right leaning people by a huge margin in Spurstalk.

[Wild Cobra]

qIWImVhBLgk

[boutons_deux]

if Z was black, he would be tried and jailed for life by now

http://www.upworthy.com/know-anyone-that-thinks-racial-profiling-is-exaggerated-watch-this-and-tell-me-when-your-jaw-drops-2?c=upw1 (http://www.upworthy.com/know-anyone-that-thinks-racial-profiling-is-exaggerated-watch-this-and-tell-me-when-your-jaw-drops-2?c=upw1)

[clambake]

george stalked and hunted this kid down.

[Wild Cobra]

Oooops, I was wrong. It was 2.53 seconds, not 2.7.

Link attached to pic:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Politics/zimmermanscream_zpsa23478fe.png (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/05/17/zimmerman.fbi.analysis.pdf)

[Trill Clinton]

if a brotha got out his cadillac and murdered a white skater kid, his ass would already be serving a life sentence.

[Wild Cobra]

if Z was black, he would be tried and jailed for life by now

http://www.upworthy.com/know-anyone-that-thinks-racial-profiling-is-exaggerated-watch-this-and-tell-me-when-your-jaw-drops-2?c=upw1 (http://www.upworthy.com/know-anyone-that-thinks-racial-profiling-is-exaggerated-watch-this-and-tell-me-when-your-jaw-drops-2?c=upw1)
Since when do statistics make fact?

[clambake]

if a brotha got out his cadillac and murdered a white skater kid, his ass would already be serving a life sentence.

bullshit. he'd be on death row.

[Wild Cobra]

if Z was black, he would be tried and jailed for life by now

http://www.upworthy.com/know-anyone-that-thinks-racial-profiling-is-exaggerated-watch-this-and-tell-me-when-your-jaw-drops-2?c=upw1 (http://www.upworthy.com/know-anyone-that-thinks-racial-profiling-is-exaggerated-watch-this-and-tell-me-when-your-jaw-drops-2?c=upw1)
LOL...

I actually watched that. The video was a setup, and they lie.

Indistrial size bolt cuttler?

LOL... Bullshit. Those are puny, and will not cut much.

Dressed similar? No way, but that shouldn't matter.

Age... the older white kid can be a threat to most. The younger boy, not so much. Far less danger in a confrontation.

Then...

How much editing was there? How many hours did they film to cherry pick what to put in it.

[spursncowboys]

Tripn? First time you ever address me and you call me tripn? Fuck you.

If race reversed, black guy would've been arrested the same night, open and shut case Johnny.
Doubt it

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I like how tea baggers know more about voice identification than voice identification experts.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Consensus is not fact, especially when liberals, socialists, etc. outnumber right leaning people by a huge margin in Spurstalk.

Bullshit. you, snc, yoni, teysha, cc, tsa, bobe, sjaq, SA210, DMC, darrin, viva los espuelas, jacob, xray, snakeboy, ignignokt, m>s, bradlouhaus, the reckoning, etc, etc

More of WC making up shit so as to fit his bias and inserting it for the truth.

[TeyshaBlue]

Oooops, I was wrong. It was 2.53 seconds, not 2.7.

Link attached to pic:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Politics/zimmermanscream_zpsa23478fe.png (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/05/17/zimmerman.fbi.analysis.pdf)

You realize that it's Zimmerman's legal defense making the claim that the voice on the phone was Zimmerman's, right? Cause this little bit of analysis blows that shit completely up.

[Creepn]

Although this case is racially charged, I'd like to keep it out of this thread and focus on actions and evidence.

[Rogue]

I like how tea baggers know more about voice identification than voice identification experts.
I also like it when a non-college graduate seems to know more about a college graduate does, because it'll kind of justify my admiration and glorification of my Goddess Scarlett (who's also non-college graduate)

[Wild Cobra]

You realize that it's Zimmerman's legal defense making the claim that the voice on the phone was Zimmerman's, right? Cause this little bit of analysis blows that shit completely up.
How?

please explain.

[Wild Cobra]

link:

New Recording of Travyon Martin's Voice Emerges (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/trayvon-martin-case-voice-recording-emerges-lawyers-ready-19346403)

[sjacquemotte]

Bullshit. you, snc, yoni, teysha, cc, tsa, bobe, sjaq, SA210, DMC, darrin, viva los espuelas, jacob, xray, snakeboy, ignignokt, m>s, bradlouhaus, the reckoning, etc, etc

More of WC making up shit so as to fit his bias and inserting it for the truth.
huh? FTR I'm snc

[Wild Cobra]

huh? FTR I'm snc

Fuzzy has problems with the finer details. That fuzzy logic gets a bit blurry...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

huh? FTR I'm snc

fair enough. didn't realize that holmes. why the new account?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy has problems with the finer details. That fuzzy logic gets a bit blurry...

the point still stands. its a texas board and acting like there is not a significant contingent of GOP supporters just goes to show how ignorant you are.

I think you are mistaken because even the board conservatives think you are a moron. People see you for what you are because of your stances on eugenics, racism, immigration, etc as well as your complete intellectual cowardice when faced with overwhelming evidence. Go back to your fantasy world where no one wants to join including a native AZ resident.

[sjacquemotte]

fair enough. didn't realize that holmes. why the new account?
I started with sjacquemotte, which is short for sean jacquemotte, and at the time didn't feel comfortable using my name. I wanted to be able to be critical of the government and not get in trouble. Reading through the forum I realized I should also protect my id. I wasn't worried about myself but more so of my kids, so i made snc. Then after reading up on all the protections people have now a days with online harassment laws, and the idea that people seem to lose some of their humanity when anonymous, I started using sjacquemotte. Now, I have one on chrome and one on firefox and I can't remember which one is on my phone. :lol so I'm just going to go back and forth until I get around to remember my pw. Damn autofill.

But my huh was why you listed everyone?

[sjacquemotte]

the point still stands. its a texas board and acting like there is not a significant contingent of GOP supporters just goes to show how ignorant you are.

I think you are mistaken because even the board conservatives think you are a moron. People see you for what you are because of your stances on eugenics, racism, immigration, etc as well as your complete intellectual cowardice when faced with overwhelming evidence. Go back to your fantasy world where no one wants to join including a native AZ resident.
I'm pretty sure conservatives are in the minority here.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I started with sjacquemotte, which is short for sean jacquemotte, and at the time didn't feel comfortable using my name. I wanted to be able to be critical of the government and not get in trouble. Reading through the forum I realized I should also protect my id. I wasn't worried about myself but more so of my kids, so i made snc. Then after reading up on all the protections people have now a days with online harassment laws, and the idea that people seem to lose some of their humanity when anonymous, I started using sjacquemotte. Now, I have one on chrome and one on firefox and I can't remember which one is on my phone. :lol so I'm just going to go back and forth until I get around to remember my pw. Damn autofill.

But my huh was why you listed everyone?

:lol you are conservative on both of your handles. I hope I am not too insulting to you. I do appreciate your approach in addition to your honesty.

I didn't list everyone. I just listed the major conservatives that i could recall. There are a whole bunch. What is with GOP types playing the martyr card all the time?

[sjacquemotte]

:lol you are conservative on both of your handles. I hope I am not too insulting to you. I do appreciate your approach in addition to your honesty.

I didn't list everyone. I just listed the major conservatives that i could recall. There are a whole bunch. What is with GOP types playing the martyr card all the time?
what do you mean martyr card? Half the people you listed don't post here anymore. No I take most of it with a grain of salt. I read your posts, even if I don't agree with them.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Whoi ig and yoni? Yoni is always in and out. I think he was disappointed by the last election and took some more time off.

I do agree that conservative presence is down after the election and boutox and dan make it seem like this is a liberal board but both groups are well represented in my opinion.

And by that martyr card I mean the act that conservatives are some minority that is being picked on.

[Sportcamper]

I like how tea baggers know more about voice identification than voice identification experts.
I have no experience in enhancing audio from a voice recognition perspective…Normally the game plan is to clean up the recording by eliminating un wanted back ground noises…(Q-Factor) The experts are the people (digital audio work station operators) who earn a paycheck doing this for the record & film industries, not a couple guys who teach at Universities…That is why I am skeptical by folks who can’t wait to get their name in the paper…Claiming to have analyzed the recording before being officially asked to do so…

[Wild Cobra]

Well, this Tea bag party supporter just read that an expert testified that there has never been a court that accepted voice analysis before between screaming and spoken words. Went on to explain why it is impossible to do comparisons.

He pretty much said what I contended last year.

[Creepn]

Well, this Tea bag party supporter just read that an expert testified that there has never been a court that accepted voice analysis before between screaming and spoken words. Went on to explain why it is impossible to do comparisons.

He pretty much said what I contended last year.

They better hope not because if they do, then Zimmerman is fucked. Lawyer will try everything he can to invalidate it but the tester will counter with everything because it's his livelihood.

The tester will win out.

[TSA]

:lol you are conservative on both of your handles. I hope I am not too insulting to you. I do appreciate your approach in addition to your honesty.

I didn't list everyone. I just listed the major conservatives that i could recall. There are a whole bunch. What is with GOP types playing the martyr card all the time?thats quite an assumption to assume I'm conservative just because I have an appreciation of guns.

[Wild Cobra]

They better hope not because if they do, then Zimmerman is fucked. Lawyer will try everything he can to invalidate it but the tester will counter with everything because it's his livelihood.

The tester will win out.
The tester of his own software could never be an expert witness in this case, because of the conflict of interest. He already had his 15 minutes of fame.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

thats quite an assumption to assume I'm conservative just because I have an appreciation of guns.

So what democrat, green party,etc candidate have you ever voted for.

For my independence, I have not voted dem or gop in a decade or more. I have voted only for green party, libertarian, or independents in that time.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

They better hope not because if they do, then Zimmerman is fucked. Lawyer will try everything he can to invalidate it but the tester will counter with everything because it's his livelihood.

The tester will win out.
I still say Jorge Zimmerman getting convicted is a long shot because of all the initial police fuckups, but it was obvious from the get go who was screaming help. That voice did not sound like Zimmerman's voice at all :lol

[Bill_Brasky]

if a brotha got out his cadillac and murdered a white skater kid, his ass would already be serving a life sentence.

Pretty much.

Don't really understand how shooting an unarmed kid who YOU provoked and calling it self defense isn't setting off more bullshit meters.

[elbamba]

Pretty much.

Don't really understand how shooting an unarmed kid who YOU provoked and calling it self defense isn't setting off more bullshit meters.

I think it is because the pictures and plenty of the testimony show that in the end Martin was who was physically beating Zimmerman. Not saying that Zimmerman's actins were right. But I do not think he broke Florida law from what I have read.

[Creepn]

I think it is because the pictures and plenty of the testimony show that in the end Martin was who was physically beating Zimmerman. Not saying that Zimmerman's actins were right. But I do not think he broke Florida law from what I have read.

Martin was practicing his right of self defense, while screaming and begging for his life..

[TSA]

So what democrat, green party,etc candidate have you ever voted for.

For my independence, I have not voted dem or gop in a decade or more. I have voted only for green party, libertarian, or independents in that time.

Clinton is the only candidate I've ever voted for. Not a fan of the two party system and I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils every four years. You done labeling me as a conservative now?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Clinton is the only candidate I've ever voted for. Not a fan of the two party system and I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils every four years. You done labeling me as a conservative now?

No especially considering your commentary on the CA budget situation and the locations you shoose to get your takes from.

What liberal views do you have?

[TSA]

No especially considering your commentary on the CA budget situation and the locations you shoose to get your takes from.

What liberal views do you have?
99% of Liberals are pussies. That's my view.

[BobaFett1]

if Z was black, he would be tried and jailed for life by now

http://www.upworthy.com/know-anyone-that-thinks-racial-profiling-is-exaggerated-watch-this-and-tell-me-when-your-jaw-drops-2?c=upw1 (http://www.upworthy.com/know-anyone-that-thinks-racial-profiling-is-exaggerated-watch-this-and-tell-me-when-your-jaw-drops-2?c=upw1)

Get over yourself.

[elbamba]

Martin was practicing his right of self defense, while screaming and begging for his life..

If you say so. I dont reach the same conclusion and there can not be any doubt with the jurors or no conviction. Was he begging for his life while he was kicking Zimmerman's ass? Was he screaming for help while he had Zimmerman pinned on the ground? Again, not saying what Zimmerman did was right; however, was it legal in Florida? Perhaps

[Clipper Nation]

I like how tea baggers know more about voice identification than voice identification experts.
:lol Wild Cobra probably trying to triangulate the echoes of Zimmerman's voice via Google Maps
:lol WC desperately hoping it's the black guy's fault

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol Wild Cobra probably trying to triangulate the echoes of Zimmerman's voice via Google Maps
:lol WC desperately hoping it's the black guy's fault
:lol tea baggers so giddy over a black kid dying they don't even realize they're supporting a spic

[boutons_deux]

:lol tea baggers so giddy over a black kid dying they don't even realize they're supporting a spic

That's part of Repugs "reachout" to Hispanics, totally screwed by Cruz and Sessions soon killing Senate immigration reform.

[Fabbs]

SANFORD — Two state audio experts testified Friday that it was not George Zimmerman screaming for help moments before Trayvon Martin was shot, but under cross-examination, both admitted they had doubts.

Not sure what makes you Travons supporters all giddy about the audio **experts**.

[Fabbs]

and this too
link:

New Recording of Travyon Martin's Voice Emerges (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/trayvon-martin-case-voice-recording-emerges-lawyers-ready-19346403)

[Fabbs]

The tester will win out.
bookmarked

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

That's part of Repugs "reachout" to Hispanics, totally screwed by Cruz and Sessions soon killing Senate immigration reform.

Or Spico Rubio voting against the immigration bill he wrote himself :lmao

[Wild Cobra]

:lol Wild Cobra probably trying to triangulate the echoes of Zimmerman's voice via Google Maps
:lol WC desperately hoping it's the black guy's fault
Any idea how empowering it is that you all invoke me for no relevant reason? What power you give up for always doing that? my God. I own so many of you, it's laughable.

[Wild Cobra]

:lol tea baggers so giddy over a black kid dying they don't even realize they're supporting a spic
That's right, call me a racist but show it is you who are one...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

That's right, call me a racist but show it is you who are one...
My post wasn't even targeting you or anyone in particular

:lol defensive

[clambake]

Any idea how empowering it is that you all invoke me for no relevant reason? What power you give up for always doing that? my God. I own so many of you, it's laughable.

invoke lol

[Trill Clinton]

i see they finally agreed on a jury. any word if they're going to keep the members of the jury confidential or not?

[symple19]

Would be nice if Zimmerman got the death penalty.

[boutons_deux]

Would be nice if Zimmerman got the death penalty.

I think fancy lawyering, not justice or judgement, will let him walk.

[Creepn]

bookmarked

lol.

I doubt the judge would even let these things be admissable for the trial. I don't even think that corrupted lie detector test would even be accepted either.

[sjacquemotte]

I think fancy lawyering, not justice or judgement, will let him walk.
Theres that. That and the fact there isn't enough evidence to prove wrongdoing let alone convict of murder.

[Creepn]

I have confidence that Zimmerman will be convicted. Even at Murder 2. If I wasn't masochistic, I would bet CosmicCowboy and become an instant millionaire.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I think fancy lawyering, not justice or judgement, will let him walk.
I think it'll simply be the cop fuckups that initially happened, and Florida's backwards law that the defendant doesn't have the burden to prove self defense.

[Fabbs]

i see they finally agreed on a jury. any word if they're going to keep the members of the jury confidential or not?
No they did not.
Selection continues.

Prosecution going for as many coons as possible.

Anyone know the ratio of whites/blacks/asians in this jurisdiction?

L.A. Times exerpt:
Although Sanford residents in general say racism is not prevalent in their city of some 55,000 about 20 miles from Orlando, views of the case and upcoming trial seem to skew along racial lines, with blacks saying that racial profiling propelled Zimmerman to shoot Martin and whites saying race should not come into play. Zimmerman identifies himself as Latino.

“This trial is 50% racial and 50% criminal. That’s why the whole country is watching — to see what will happen with the racial profiling part of it,” said Francis Oliver, curator at the Goldsboro Westside Historical Museum, which documents the once-independent black city of Goldsboro, now part of Sanford. “Every city that has the same problem of racial profiling is waiting to see how this case goes because it affects all of them.”

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

I have confidence that Zimmerman will be convicted. Even at Murder 2. If I wasn't masochistic, I would bet CosmicCowboy and become an instant millionaire.

If he's not will you chimp out on whites or Mestizos?

[Creepn]

If he's not will you chimp out on whites or Mestizos?

Lol when a black man displays visible frustration, its called "chimp out". When a white guy does it, it's called "venting". Guy that shot up the campus, oh he's just venting.

[Trill Clinton]

ethan hawke's take on the trayvon martin case. i haven't seen his new movie yet to see the similarities he mentioned.



http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_images/quote_box.png Ethan Hawke's New Film "The Purge" Reminds Him Of The Trayvon Martin Case
Posted June 4, 2013 by BlogXilla for Global Grind Staff

I had the opportunity to speak with Ethan Hawke about his new movie The Purge, and he said something that totally blew my mind.

If you haven't heard, the thriller/horror movie is set in a world where there is zero crime. They've accomplished this by allowing one day where all crime is legal; a way for residents to "purge" their souls.

The film's characters think this is their given right, as if God himself allows the opportunity to kill in order to make the world a better place. In the flick, most of the people who partake in the Purge come from well-off communities and they tend to wipe out the homeless and less fortunate. You know, keep the world a safe and better place and all that.

The arc of the movie happens when a homeless black man is spotted begging for help in a gated community. This man was merely trying to stay alive, when a group of crazed residents decided they wanted to take his life.

The Purge is not only thrilling and unique, it's also quite thought-provoking.

So while talking to the movie's star Ethan Hawke, he said something that caught my attention.

Ethan said The Purge reminds him of the Trayvon Martin case:

"This movie at it's best has something very subversive to say about race and class and economics," Ethan explained. "It's hard for me to watch the movie and not think about Trayvon Martin. Watching the guy run through this gated community begging for help. That's what's interesting to me about the movie."

I asked Ethan if he's been following the trial, and he revealed:

"I've only been following that I know it's about to go to trial and I'm watching it kind of anxiously. It happened while we were making this movie. It seem so odd...The parallels are obvious."

A black guy just walking down the block is attacked for basically no reason other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

It leads me to wonder ... was Trayvon purged?

Think about it: the fact that it took so long to charge George Zimmerman with a crime because society thought it was just another unidentified black man. The fact that there is no concern when a "thug" or "low life" is killed, but then you start to peel back the layers. You realize that this person you think is a thug, is actually a son, a brother, a boyfriend and a scared little teen trying to watch the all-star game.

It really makes you think. So with that said, do you think Trayvon Martin was purged?

The Purge hits theaters June 7th.

Read more: http://globalgrind.com/entertainment/ethan-hawkes-movie-the-purge-reminds-him-trayvon-martin-case-exclusive#ixzz2VwD457Iw

[CosmicCowboy]

purged? :lol

Two idiots met on a dark and rainy night and it ended badly. Shit happens all the time.

[CosmicCowboy]

Oh, and I'll take that bet Creepn . $100 says he doesn't get convicted of murder 2. Kori can hold the money. Put your money where your big mouth is.

[Trill Clinton]

purged? :lol

Two idiots met on a dark and rainy night and it ended badly. Shit happens all the time.

yea purged as in zimmerman supporters thinking he did society a favor by killing a kid who would have gone on to sell drugs, rape or murder. only idiot was zimmerman getting out of the car and following a kid trying to watch the allstar game with his lil bro.

[Trill Clinton]

a guest on a fox news show says its trayvon's fault he's dead. sad thing is this came from a former police officer.


"She was talking about the Skittles that he had, and the Coca-Cola that Trayvon Martin had. That doesn't look good for the defense because he's injecting something into their minds, like, this is a little kid with candy walking around the street. Listen, Trayvon Martin would be alive today if he didn't have a street attitude. That's the bottom line."
Holder immediately stepped in to say "'street attitude' is a very broad thing and is something that actually can be used as a — and I'm not saying this to you, personally — but something that can be used as something racist, like calling a kid a thug." She pointed out that she herself experienced backlash for using the word "thug" while involved in Chicago legal cases.

"That's insane," Houck chuckled.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4l37Fsw5XCE

[CosmicCowboy]

yea purged as in zimmerman supporters thinking he did society a favor by killing a kid who would have gone on to sell drugs, rape or murder. only idiot was zimmerman getting out of the car and following a kid trying to watch the allstar game with his lil bro.

They both made bad decisions. Shit happened. Zimmerman will not get convicted of murder 2. Trill will cry.

And I'm not a Zimmerman backer. I think he is a dumbass.

[Trill Clinton]

They both made bad decisions. Shit happened. Zimmerman will not get convicted of murder 2. Trill will cry.

And I'm not a Zimmerman backer. I think he is a dumbass.

cry? chill, no reason to we can't have a grown up debate here.

anyways, what bad decision did tray make? its weird how zimmerman supporters or those who think they were both dumb, feel that if a perfect stranger comes up to you and asks you who you are, what you are doing here and where you live, that you are obligated to answer them. if someone is following you, you go straight home. tray should have been a good lil boy and acquiesced to zimmerman's demands, thats silly to me.

the only person who i feel was using self defense is dead. no way would i teach my children to cower to a stranger if they feel threatened.

[TeyshaBlue]

cry? chill, no reason to we can't have a grown up debate here.

anyways, what bad decision did tray make? its weird how zimmerman supporters or those who think they were both dumb, feel that if a perfect stranger comes up to you and asks you who you are, what you are doing here and where you live, that you are obligated to answer them. if someone is following you, you go straight home. tray should have been a good lil boy and acquiesced to zimmerman's demands, thats silly to me.


That may well be, but he would most likely still be alive.

[TeyshaBlue]

Walking away from trouble is an unappreciated strat.

[Trill Clinton]

That may well be, but he would most likely still be alive.

so you teach your children to talk to strangers? okay

[Trill Clinton]

Walking away from trouble is an unappreciated strat.

tell that to zimmerman. should have just stayed in the truck but he chose to go looking for trouble.

[CosmicCowboy]

cry? chill, no reason to we can't have a grown up debate here.

anyways, what bad decision did tray make? its weird how zimmerman supporters or those who think they were both dumb, feel that if a perfect stranger comes up to you and asks you who you are, what you are doing here and where you live, that you are obligated to answer them. if someone is following you, you go straight home. tray should have been a good lil boy and acquiesced to zimmerman's demands, thats silly to me.

the only person who i feel was using self defense is dead. no way would i teach my children to cower to a stranger if they feel threatened.

hi. I'm Trayvon Martin. I'm staying at my dads house. He lives at XXXXXXXXXX. I walked to the store to get a soda and candy. Would you like my dads phone number so you can verify? It's XXX-XXXX

Breaking his nose and sitting on his chest while pounding his head into the concrete is hardly a way to make friends.

You are a fuckup Trill and I hope your kids are smart enough not to take your advice.

[Trill Clinton]

entitlement is real folks.

[TeyshaBlue]

so you teach your children to talk to strangers? okay

lol. No. I do teach them to walk away from trouble when possible. Anyone with a room temp IQ can tell that Z is an idiot with an attitude. Personally, I tend to wander off from idiots...especially when they're idiots with weapons.

[CosmicCowboy]

Doesn't matter what race he is you dumbass.

[TeyshaBlue]

tell that to zimmerman. should have just stayed in the truck but he chose to go looking for trouble.

Absolutely. Z is not off the hook for this. But there exists a set of actions that Trayvon might've survived had he opted for them.

[CosmicCowboy]

Of course, statistically speaking, Trill won't raise his kids anyway.

We are probably OK.

[TeyshaBlue]

Dude...

[Trill Clinton]

hi. I'm Trayvon Martin. I'm staying at my dads house. He lives at XXXXXXXXXX. I walked to the store to get a soda and candy. Would you like my dads phone number so you can verify? It's XXX-XXXX

Breaking his nose and sitting on his chest while pounding his head into the concrete is hardly a way to make friends.

You are a fuckup Trill and I hope your kids are smart enough not to take your advice.

lol at this bullshit. so you want tray to tell a perfect stranger, who followed him, where he lives and give him his parents phone number? yea i hope my kids take my advice too. don't talk to strangers, period.

and he was 17, not 25, not 30, not 50. a 17 year old kid who was confronted by a stranger and he felt threatened so he protected himself, zimmerman didn't need any medical attention so the ass whooping he got wasn't that bad.

[CosmicCowboy]

Dude...

Meh. Hopefully he doesn't fall into the norm, but from his macho/racist rants in here he fits the profile and would probably walk on a baby mama.

[Trill Clinton]

Absolutely. Z is not off the hook for this. But there exists a set of actions that Trayvon might've survived had he opted for them.

yea but he's a 17 year old kid and i don't expect him to make the wisest decisions. i do think he shouldn't have to answer to a stranger, though.



Dude...

yea i know, its all good.

[CosmicCowboy]

lol at this bullshit. so you want tray to tell a perfect stranger, who followed him, where he lives and give him his parents phone number? yea i hope my kids take my advice too. don't talk to strangers, period.

and he was 17, not 25, not 30, not 50. a 17 year old kid who was confronted by a stranger and he felt threatened so he protected himself, zimmerman didn't need any medical attention so the ass whooping he got wasn't that bad.

LMAO! He broke his nose and was sitting on his chest pounding his head into the concrete. It has been documented and entered into evidence.

[Trill Clinton]

LMAO! He broke his nose and was sitting on his chest pounding his head into the concrete. It has been documented and entered into evidence.

sorry we only have one side of the story and so far his word is not to be trusted. i'm not denying trayvon kicked his ass. a 17 year old kid who was approached by an armed stranger? i would have fought for my life too. but you would have chosen to cower and submit? you gotta be trolling me.


Meh. Hopefully he doesn't fall into the norm, but from his macho/racist rants in here he fits the profile and would probably walk on a baby mama.

what macho/racist rants? there were other posters who aren't black who've said the exact same things i've said, chill.

[CosmicCowboy]

sorry we only have one side of the story and so far his word is not to be trusted. i'm not denying trayvon kicked his ass. a 17 year old kid who was approached by an armed stranger? i would have fought for my life too. but you would have chosen to cower and submit? you gotta be trolling me.



what macho/racist rants? there were other posters who aren't black who've said the exact same things i've said, chill.

You shittin me? I've had a gun pulled on me before and the first thought that came to mind was tell this fool anything he wants to hear so he doesn't pull that fucking trigger. That's no time to prove your manhood unless you are a comic book superhero. Getting shot sucks. Just ask Trayvon. Oh Yeah. You can't. He was stupid. He's dead.

That's giving you the benefit of the doubt that Zimmerman drew on him like you claim.

[Trill Clinton]

You shittin me? I've had a gun pulled on me before and the first thought that came to mind was tell this fool anything he wants to hear so he doesn't pull that fucking trigger. That's no time to prove your manhood unless you are a comic book superhero. Getting shot sucks. Just ask Trayvon. Oh Yeah. You can't. He was stupid. He's dead.

That's giving you the benefit of the doubt that Zimmerman drew on him like you claim.

ive had a gun pulled on me as well but i was a grown man when it happened. how old were you? i hope you aren't comparing your decision making skills as a 40 year old man to a teen.

[CosmicCowboy]

So we agree Trayvon made a fatally bad decision to try to beat the fat beaners ass that (turns out) had a gun. That macho shit rarely ends good.

[Trill Clinton]

So we agree Trayvon made a fatally bad decision to try to beat the fat beaners ass that (turns out) had a gun. That macho shit rarely ends good.

no i don't agree he made a fatal decision by defending himself against the white-hispanic. real macho for a stranger to confront a kid while armed. real tough guy.

[Creepn]

Of course, statistically speaking, Trill won't raise his kids anyway.

We are probably OK.

Lol fucked up, but can I see those stats that you are statistically speaking from?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Lol tea baggers saying trayvon should have given his personal info to a fat spic who had no authority to be questioning him

[Creepn]

Lol tea baggers saying trayvon should have given his personal info to a fat spic who had no authority to be questioning him

When did tea baggers expand the Jim Crow rules to the mexican/hispanics? I must've missed that memo.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Meh. Hopefully he doesn't fall into the norm, but from his macho/racist rants in here he fits the profile and would probably walk on a baby mama.

rich in vitamin I, I tell you.

[Wild Cobra]

Lol tea baggers saying trayvon should have given his personal info to a fat spic who had no authority to be questioning him


When did tea baggers expand the Jim Crow rules to the mexican/hispanics? I must've missed that memo.
Yes, please send me that memo.

I've never seen it either.

[Wild Cobra]

So....

How many of you "convict him now" people moved and registered to vote, so you might be selected for that jury?

[CosmicCowboy]

Lol fucked up, but can I see those stats that you are statistically speaking from?

67%

http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=107

[boutons_deux]

Walking away from trouble is an unappreciated strat.

Z, a Neighborhood Watch Captain:

1) went on a vigilante watch run armed, against Neighborhood Watch rules

2) confronted his victim, against Neighborhood Watch rules

He went armed, looking for trouble, caused trouble, and murdered an innocent kid who "felt threatened" and who "stood his ground" under FL law. Then Z lied to the court about his money, and his passport.

[Creepn]

67%

http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=107

That's it? That is the stat white people like to throw in black people's faces? It says nothing about the kid being fatherless. It doesn't take into account if it's a father-led single family home or a mother-led single family honme either. It doesn't take into about divorces. The lopsided stats problem probably indicates the incaceration rates of blacks being thrown in jail for victimless crimes such as marijauna or maybe being killed like Trayvon here by vigilantes and cops or just thrown in jail just to be thrown in jail lol. Like I said in another thread, don't cry and bitch about black people on welfare or in jail if people continue to racially target them. It's a consequence. It's an effect from a cause.

[CosmicCowboy]

That's it? That is the stat white people like to throw in black people's faces? It says nothing about the kid being fatherless. It doesn't take into account if it's a father-led single family home or a mother-led single family honme either. It doesn't take into about divorces. The lopsided stats problem probably indicates the incaceration rates of blacks being thrown in jail for victimless crimes such as marijauna or maybe being killed like Trayvon here by vigilantes and cops or just thrown in jail just to be thrown in jail lol. Like I said in another thread, don't cry and bitch about black people on welfare or in jail if people continue to racially target them. It's a consequence. It's an effect from a cause.

:lmao

hit a nerve, did we? 67% is 67%

[elbamba]

Of course, statistically speaking, Trill won't raise his kids anyway.

We are probably OK.

I Dont think this contributes to the discussion.

[elbamba]

Absolutely. Z is not off the hook for this. But there exists a set of actions that Trayvon might've survived had he opted for them.

I agree. This is a unique case where justice will probably be served by either a conviction or acquittal. This does not mean that Zimmerman was correct in his actions. I think he was wrong to ever get out of the truck. He was right to originally call the police and should have left it at that. If convicted, (non-legal) justice is served because he is being punished for assuming a responsibility that was not his to assume. His bad decision leading to the death of an innocent child.

Martin should have just continued walking home. I highly doubt he gets shot if he just ignores Zimmerman and walks/runs to his house. If he does, Zimmerman has no self-defense claim and spends the rest of his life in jail. I do not believe in the wrong place at the wrong time general thought for Martin. He was in the right place at the right time. His aggressive actions seems to be what ultimately lead to his death.

Just my prediction but I think the self-defense claim will prevail. Not sure how I will feel either way.

[elbamba]

lol at this bullshit. so you want tray to tell a perfect stranger, who followed him, where he lives and give him his parents phone number? yea i hope my kids take my advice too. don't talk to strangers, period.

and he was 17, not 25, not 30, not 50. a 17 year old kid who was confronted by a stranger and he felt threatened so he protected himself, zimmerman didn't need any medical attention so the ass whooping he got wasn't that bad.

I dont think anyone is arguing that Martin was not justified in kicking Zimmerman's ass. But that is why he got shot and that is why Zimmerman has a self-defense affirmative defense.

[resistanze]

but from his macho/racist rants in here


he fits the profile and would probably walk on a baby mama.
Oh...

[Frank Dux]

LMAO! He broke his nose and was sitting on his chest pounding his head into the concrete. It has been documented and entered into evidence.

A reasonable response to being stalked and assaulted by a gun-wielding psychopath in the night. Innocent people don't have to bow down to some loser wannabe Dirty Harry, just because the guy is packing heat.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If it were me I would have said to Zimmerman, "I'm gonna keep walking home. You're free to call the police and if they stop me ill answer their questions," but there's no fuckin way I would have given any personal info to some random fat ass. The idea that a guy can play vigilante to extort info from any random person they see and then shoot the person in "self defense" if the person being questioned by the wannabe cop reacts with hostility is totally preposterous.

[SupremeGuy]

67%

http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=107Droppin' stat bombs. :lmao

[Fabbs]

No they did not.
Selection continues.

Anyone know the ratio of whites/blacks/asians in this jurisdiction?
So what jurisdiction are jurors being drawn from?

Sanford is the county seat of Seminole County, Florida. Although it experienced explosive growth during the economic boom and has several large, modern upscale subdivisions, it remains relatively poor.

With approximately 54,000 residents, it has a per capita income of only about $21,000, with about 18.5% of the city below the poverty line, according to the 2010 census. It is approximately 30% African-American and 20% Hispanic. It has a documented history of racial tensions between its police and its black residents.

Contrast this with Seminole County. Seminole County is more than 80% white (including white Hispanics) and only about 11% black. Overall, only 10% of the population is below the poverty line, and that factors in Sanford.

If Sanford is removed from the equation, Seminole County is overall a very affluent county, predominantly white and Republican and filled with pockets of substantial wealth and gated subdivisions. Seminole County has become more suburban, and as growth has skyrocketed, the white population has diluted the strength of Sanford's African-American vote and diminished its influence in elections.

[clambake]

hi. I'm Trayvon Martin. I'm staying at my dads house. He lives at XXXXXXXXXX. I walked to the store to get a soda and candy. Would you like my dads phone number so you can verify? It's XXX-XXXX

just couldn't envision you doing this.

[Creepn]

*waves at Martin from his car*, "Hi excuse me sir! I don't mean to startle you but I'm part of a neighborhood patrol thing because we had a rash of break ins lately. Sorry if I spooked you, it's just that you don't look familiar in the neighborhood."

Martin would've replied with-

"I'm just visiting my dad here for a little while."

Then he goes back to talking to his gf over the phone and Z continues on with his patrol.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

*waves at Martin from his car*, "Hi excuse me sir! I don't mean to startle you but I'm part of a neighborhood patrol thing because we had a rash of break ins lately. Sorry if I spooked you, it's just that you don't look familiar in the neighborhood."

Martin would've either replied with-

"I'm just visiting my dad here for a little while."

Then he goes back to talking to his gf over the phone and Z continues on with his patrol.
:lol I laugh whenever I see Zimmerman say he was part of the neighborhood watch. A neighborhood watch generally means a collective effort from the neighborhood where multiple people have patrolling shifts.....a loser with the maturity level of an 8 year old who still lives off his parents in a state of arrested development wanting an excuse to play cops and robbers with his gun isn't a neighborhood watch :lol

[The Batman]

It's no surprise that Wild Cobra defends Zimmerman. Google mapping a random woman's house is considered normal to him. He'd probably stalk her with a gun too and say "I was just trying to protect you"

[The Batman]

And stalk her some more after she calls the cops on him and didn't give him her personal info.

[Trill Clinton]

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd47/gingerspice108/null_zpsd3711be7.jpg

fox news would have a field day if trayvon was heath and zimmerman was d'anthony.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Trill why do you keep perpetuating the MSNBC bullshit that Jorge Zimmerman is white?

[Wild Cobra]

Wow.

I never thought I would say this.

Batman is a childish loser. Has to be a bully in threads instead of good recourse.

What grade are you in Batman? 3rd grade? You act like a grade school bully.

Grow up asshole.

[clambake]

ha ha, wc getting trolled by a 3rd grader.

[Trill Clinton]

Trill why do you keep perpetuating the MSNBC bullshit that Jorge Zimmerman is white?

he's white hispanic. his father is white so he white.

[CosmicCowboy]

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd47/gingerspice108/null_zpsd3711be7.jpg

fox news would have a field day if trayvon was heath and zimmerman was d'anthony.

It wouldn't even be on the news. The only reason Trayvon was news was because it was a rare case of a white/hispanic on black shooting.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

he's white hispanic. his father is white so he white.

Well hopefully it's really important for you to call him white. If people knew he was a spic there wouldn't have been an outcry of support from him and tea baggers wouldn't have created a six figure fund he could use to put together a great defense team.

[Trill Clinton]

Well hopefully it's really important for you to call him white. If people knew he was a spic there wouldn't have been an outcry of support from him and tea baggers wouldn't have created a six figure fund he could use to put together a great defense team.

but his brother is doing interviews speaking spanish and trying to push the latino angle and whites are still supporting him. they've adopted him as one of their own. zimmerman joined the illuminati.

[TeyshaBlue]

zimmerman joined the illuminati.

:lol:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

but his brother is doing interviews speaking spanish and trying to push the latino angle and whites are still supporting him. they've adopted him as one of their own. zimmerman joined the illuminati.

:lol really? I remember seeing Jorge's brother on Bill Maher and he did everything he could to avoid admitting to Maher he was hispanic. Maher kept asking about his race and he kept coming up with elusive answers like, "We're Americans!"

[Creepn]

It wouldn't even be on the news. The only reason Trayvon was news was because it was a rare case of a white/hispanic on black shooting.

And not because some innocent unarmed kid got shot walking home and wasn't arrested for it? Gotcha.

[CosmicCowboy]

And not because some innocent unarmed kid got shot walking home and wasn't arrested for it? Gotcha.

:lmao innocent unarmed kid

two stupid fucks met on a dark and rainy night and it ended badly. There's nothing innocent about either one of them.

[The Batman]

:lmao innocent unarmed kid

two stupid fucks met on a dark and rainy night and it ended badly. There's nothing innocent about either one of them.

Well he was unarmed and inocent. But I guess since he was black he wasn't innocent.

[CosmicCowboy]

innocent kids don't break peoples noses and then sit on their chest (instead of taking the opportunity to run away) and pound their heads into the concrete.

you guys crack me up. i'm gonna laugh my ass off when the not guilty verdict comes in, not because I like Zimmerman but because of all the Spurstalk pussies in these Trayvon threads.

[The Batman]

innocent kids don't break peoples noses and then sit on their chest (instead of taking the opportunity to run away) and pound their heads into the concrete.

you guys crack me up. i'm gonna laugh my ass off when the not guilty verdict comes in, not because I like Zimmerman but because of all the Spurstalk pussies in these Trayvon threads.

:rollin because everyone knows what to do when they're being followed, intimidated and provoked :lmao

[The Batman]

CC: "Even if you're black and defending yourself, you're still guilty of the crime of defending yourself which therefore makes you not innocent" :lmao fucking idiot.

[Trill Clinton]

:lol really? I remember seeing Jorge's brother on Bill Maher and he did everything he could to avoid admitting to Maher he was hispanic. Maher kept asking about his race and he kept coming up with elusive answers like, "We're Americans!"

i've read some interviews where he said he's hispanic, bi lingual and eats peruvian food. i vaguely remember the interview on real time. i'll have to watch it again.

[Trill Clinton]

CC has no problem if a man driving this van asks his children where they live and if he can offer them a ride

http://universalspectrum.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=253&d=1337242735

[Sportcamper]

innocent kids don't break peoples noses and then sit on their chest (instead of taking the opportunity to run away) and pound their heads into the concrete.

A 17 year old boy was being stalked by an overweight white guy in his 30’s…I think Treyvon was scared and his self defense mode & adrenalin kicked in...That is why Treyvon went Ham on Zimmerman…It is a sad and tragic set of circumstances but IMO both you & I would have had a similar response at age 17…

[clambake]

A 17 year old boy was being stalked by an overweight white guy in his 30’s…I think Treyvon was scared and his self defense mode & adrenalin kicked in...That is why Treyvon went Ham on Zimmerman…It is a sad and tragic set of circumstances but IMO both you & I would have had a similar response at age 17…

no....cc said he'd tell him how to call his daddy.

[Frank Dux]

innocent kids don't break peoples noses and then sit on their chest (instead of taking the opportunity to run away) and pound their heads into the concrete.

Innocent men don't carry loaded guns and stalk children in the night. That kind of behavior is reserved for perverts and psychopaths.

[Fabbs]

When the young child Trayvon was on his way to the store to buy milk and cookies for the church picnic the next day, did anything come out items found on him?

[tlongII]

From what I understand of Florida's "stand your ground" laws I see no way that Zimmerman gets convicted. That doesn't mean it's right, it just means he isn't guilty of the crime they are charging him with.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

From what I understand of Florida's "stand your ground" laws I see no way that Zimmerman gets convicted. That doesn't mean it's right, it just means he isn't guilty of the crime they are charging him with.

You haven't been following the case. There was a hearing about SYG earlier and the defense refused to press the issue.

Don't you have a militia meeting you need to attend with WC?

[tlongII]

You haven't been following the case. There was a hearing about SYG earlier and the defense refused to press the issue.

Don't you have a militia meeting you need to attend with WC?

It's unfortunate that you don't know what you're talking about.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

i've read some interviews where he said he's hispanic, bi lingual and eats peruvian food. i vaguely remember the interview on real time. i'll have to watch it again.

Yeah I believe you I just find it funny that he's suddenly pulling the beandip card. On real time he refused to acknowledge being part spic.

[boutons_deux]

It's unfortunate that you don't know what you're talking about.

Z told the court he would not be using FL's SYG law in his defense.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's unfortunate that you don't know what you're talking about.

I'm guessing you are from Eastern Oregon and there was said hearing and the defense did indeed drop the SYG defense.

I am not guessing on said hearing. You can play ostrich if you like. It's obvious that you have a preferred outcome.

[tlongII]

I'm guessing you are from Eastern Oregon and there was said hearing and the defense did indeed drop the SYG defense.

I am not guessing on said hearing. You can play ostrich if you like. It's obvious that you have a preferred outcome.

It doesn't matter what the defense is arguing. SYG is the law in Florida. The jury can still acquit based on that principle.

[tlongII]

Buehler?

[symple19]

Of course, statistically speaking, Trill won't raise his kids anyway.

We are probably OK.

I laughed

[Wild Cobra]

ha ha, wc getting trolled by a 3rd grader.
Well, it's a step up from you.

[Wild Cobra]

A 17 year old boy was being stalked by an overweight white guy in his 30’s…I think Treyvon was scared and his self defense mode & adrenalin kicked in...That is why Treyvon went Ham on Zimmerman…It is a sad and tragic set of circumstances but IMO both you & I would have had a similar response at age 17…
Self defense mode? are you crazy?

Self defense mode was one thing, but once you have someone down, in self defense, and continue beating them...

He deserved to be killed. You don't do things like that in a civilized society.

[CosmicCowboy]

Innocent men don't carry loaded guns and stalk children in the night. That kind of behavior is reserved for perverts and psychopaths.

You and Trill and Creepn can use all the weighted buzz words you want.

I think Zimmerman is an ass, but when all the facts get laid on the table the jury is gonna find Zimmerman not guilty of second degree murder.

Get used to it.

[Sportcamper]

He deserved to be killed. You don't do things like that in a civilized society.
You cheered when Ralphie was pummeling the bully in Christmas story...Did Ralphie also deserve to die?

http://venessalewis.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/ralphie-fighting-bully-a-christmas-story.jpg

[Frank Dux]

You and Trill and Creepn can use all the weighted buzz words you want.

I think Zimmerman is an ass, but when all the facts get laid on the table the jury is gonna find Zimmerman not guilty of second degree murder.

Get used to it.

OJ is innocent too. I get it. I'm used to it. Doesn't change the fact that George Zimmerman was a gun-toting maniac who stalked children in the night—and there's something about that that appeals to a lot of people.

[Sportcamper]

I think Zimmerman is an ass, but when all the facts get laid on the table the jury is gonna find Zimmerman not guilty of second degree murder.

Alan Dershowitz agrees with your perspective…I don’t think Zimmerman will walk because DOJ is involved…Eventually they will charge him with something that will stick…Violating Trayvon’s civil rights or something along those lines…

Dershowitz Blasts Zimmerman Prosecution: 'Not Only Immoral, But Stupid'
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/20/Dershowitz-prosecution-immoral

[Creepn]

You cheered when Ralphie was pummeling the bully in Christmas story...Did Ralphie also deserve to die?

http://venessalewis.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/ralphie-fighting-bully-a-christmas-story.jpg

:clap

[Bane.]

Wild Cobra is an idiot wrapped in a retard.

:lol google maps
:lol paying for sex

[Wild Cobra]

You cheered when Ralphie was pummeling the bully in Christmas story...Did Ralphie also deserve to die?

http://venessalewis.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/ralphie-fighting-bully-a-christmas-story.jpg

If you say so.

Are your fantasies anything like the fantasies the girl in Sucker Punch had? Are you also lobotomized?

[clambake]

he was just invoking you lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It doesn't matter what the defense is arguing. SYG is the law in Florida. The jury can still acquit based on that principle.

:lol Eastern Oregon
:lol more militia types than East Texas

I'm not at your beck and call douche. And SYG is presented as a defense by the defense. They declined to use it during the hearing. The judge does not just assert that defense. The defense has to present it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You and Trill and Creepn can use all the weighted buzz words you want.

I think Zimmerman is an ass, but when all the facts get laid on the table the jury is gonna find Zimmerman not guilty of second degree murder.

Get used to it.

You sounded much the same in the months leading up to the last election. Only one that was more asinine was Yoni.

Let's let the case play out and see what is what before posturing based on bullshit.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If you say so.

Are your fantasies anything like the fantasies the girl in Sucker Punch had? Are you also lobotomized?

More logical inconsistency from the village idiot.

[CosmicCowboy]

More logical inconsistency from the village idiot.

Pot, meet Kettle. The Yin to WC's Yang.

[Creepn]

WC, your boy CC is basically calling you an idiot.

[tlongII]

:lol Eastern Oregon
:lol more militia types than East Texas

I'm not at your beck and call douche. And SYG is presented as a defense by the defense. They declined to use it during the hearing. The judge does not just assert that defense. The defense has to present it.

It's a rule of law dumbass! :lol

Do you think the judge will tell the jury that SYG is irrelevant in this case? :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

WC, your boy CC is basically calling you an idiot.

I feel I'm more at the political fulcrum and there are a lot of extremists (like you) that are pretty clueless.

[CosmicCowboy]

It's a rule of law dumbass! :lol

Do you think the judge will tell the jury that SYG is irrelevant in this case? :lol

All Zimmerman has to use is self defense. He doesn't need SYG. Getting your bloodied head beaten into the concrete over and over usually ends very badly for the one getting his head slammed. That is clearly a reasonable fear for your life.

[tlongII]

All Zimmerman has to use is self defense. He doesn't need SYG. Getting your bloodied head beaten into the concrete over and over usually ends very badly for the one getting his head slammed. That is clearly a reasonable fear for your life.

Yes I know. That's exactly why he's not using SYG. However, that doesn't mean that it doesn't apply.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's a rule of law dumbass! :lol

Do you think the judge will tell the jury that SYG is irrelevant in this case? :lol

And the law has been administered.

Take for example the insanity defense. If the defense declines to use it then it's irrelevant to the case. Again, the defense declined to use it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Pot, meet Kettle. The Yin to WC's Yang.

What logical inconsistency?

Or are you just flailing around?

I'm guessing the latter.

[tlongII]

And the law has been administered.

Take for example the insanity defense. If the defense declines to use it then it's irrelevant to the case. Again, the defense declined to use it.

Wrong.

[CosmicCowboy]

What logical inconsistency?

Or are you just flailing around?

I'm guessing the latter.

:lmao

fucking dumbass.

you just did one.

Insanity has nothing to do with judicial procedure. You are either sane enough to stand trial or you aren't.

It's not a "defense" it's a condition that precludes being tried in the courts.

[TSA]

And the law has been administered.

Take for example the insanity defense. If the defense declines to use it then it's irrelevant to the case. Again, the defense declined to use it.
The defense can still use it, they just chose not to at this stage. You're such a smug dipshit. Have you been following the case?

"During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof."

Benjamin Crump, attorney for the Martin family, said Zimmerman's decision to "merge" the hearing and the trial "is very telling of his defense, or lack thereof."

"We believe the defense's decision to waive a pretrial hearing and to merge the 'stand your ground' hearing into the trial is to prevent putting George Zimmerman on the stand," Crump said in a press release, "and to preclude the public and the potential jury pool from previewing the many inconsistencies in George Zimmerman's story."



No doubt you'll still say you're right though. And in no way am I backing Zimmerman here, just helping bury your head further up your ass.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The defense can still use it, they just chose not to at this stage. You're such a smug dipshit. Have you been following the case?

"During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof."

Benjamin Crump, attorney for the Martin family, said Zimmerman's decision to "merge" the hearing and the trial "is very telling of his defense, or lack thereof."

"We believe the defense's decision to waive a pretrial hearing and to merge the 'stand your ground' hearing into the trial is to prevent putting George Zimmerman on the stand," Crump said in a press release, "and to preclude the public and the potential jury pool from previewing the many inconsistencies in George Zimmerman's story."



No doubt you'll still say you're right though. And in no way am I backing Zimmerman here, just helping bury your head further up your ass.

Just because I have zero respect for you does not make me smug. I just have no respect for you.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao

fucking dumbass.

you just did one.

Insanity has nothing to do with judicial procedure. You are either sane enough to stand trial or you aren't.

It's not a "defense" it's a condition that precludes being tried in the courts.

Just because two things are not the same does not mean that there are not similarities. I said 'it's like the insanity defense.' Note the use of the word 'like.' That makes it a simile. See how that works?

There are 50 states, DC, the feds, etc that all have different criminal statutes. To behave that they are all to be treated the same is pretty ignorant. Also, the point still stands: the defense has not chosen to use the statute. Like the insanity plea, defense or whatever else you want to call it, if they have no asserted it then it is not an issue.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If you would like an example of a logical inconsistency, I present the following.


Insanity has nothing to do with judicial procedure. You are either sane enough to stand trial or you aren't.

I bolded so you can quickly identify why it's logically inconsistent. If you are confused, then I will be happy to explain it to you.

Fucking dumbass

teehee

[TSA]

If the defense declines to use it then it's irrelevant to the case. Again, the defense declined to use it.
They've declined to use it at this time, that in no way means it will not and can not be used during the trial. You're dead wrong on this. Tuck your tail or chase your tail, up to you.

[TSA]

Just because I have zero respect for you does not make me smug. I just have no respect for you.

:lol Thinking I give a shit about spurstalk respect. Get a fucking life.

[TSA]

If the defense declines to use it then it's irrelevant to the case. Again, the defense declined to use it.


Also, the point still stands: the defense has not chosen to use the statute.





I see what you did there

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol Thinking I give a shit about spurstalk respect. Get a fucking life.

You are the one squealing that I am smug. You care enough to whine about it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

They've declined to use it at this time, that in no way means it will not and can not be used during the trial. You're dead wrong on this. Tuck your tail or chase your tail, up to you.

They also haven't used guilty by reason of insanity either.


Mark O'Mara, who is defending George Zimmerman against a second-degree murder charge in the fatal February shooting, said the traditional self-defense approach is appropriate because the facts suggest his client couldn't retreat from a beating Martin was giving him.

Zimmerman's attorneys had said last week that they would use Florida's controverial "stand your ground" law, which allows people to use deadly force - rather than retreat - if they believe their lives are in danger.

"The facts don't seem to support a 'stand your ground' defense," O'Mara said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57492488/george-zimmermans-attorneys-wont-use-stand-your-ground-defense/

Like I said, you guys should pay attention.

[Wild Cobra]

WC, your boy CC is basically calling you an idiot.
He's allowed to, especially when attacking shitheads like you or Fuzzy.. He at least has intelligence, which most of you lack.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He's allowed to, especially when attacking shitheads like you or Fuzzy.. He at least has intelligence, which most of you lack.

:lol solar burp
:lol ocean as soda
:lol flaglot
:lol AZ > WC
:lol what do capacitor do?
:lol partschanger
:lol union hating union member
:lol black surgeon
:lol village idiot
:lol napkin math

[CosmicCowboy]

Fuzzy isn't smug, he's just so fucking ignorant he doesn't even realize he doesn't know shit.

[TSA]

They also haven't used guilty by reason of insanity either.



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57492488/george-zimmermans-attorneys-wont-use-stand-your-ground-defense/

Like I said, you guys should pay attention.
I see you chose to chase your tail some more.

Thanks for linking an article from August 2012, nothing has changed since then. :lol

[TSA]

"During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing (stand your ground) to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof."



How Fuzzy will spin this into he knew this all along should be entertaining.

[Creepn]

He's allowed to, especially when attacking shitheads like you or Fuzzy.. He at least has intelligence, which most of you lack.

Let me get this straight. CC can call you any insult in the book regarding your intelligence level (which to be clear would be the likes of: idiot, village idiot, retard, moron, stupid ass, ect.) as long as he attacks the e-people that doesn't share your opinion?

Pretty submissive of you tbh, especially when I haven't even insulted you yet.

[BobaFett1]

Fuzzy isn't smug, he's just so fucking ignorant he doesn't even realize he doesn't know shit.

Fuzzy is towing the company line.

[tlongII]

"During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing (stand your ground) to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof."


How Fuzzy will spin this into he knew this all along should be entertaining.


:lol Fuzzy

[BobaFett1]

:lol Fuzzy

:lol The Boognish

[TSA]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57492488/george-zimmermans-attorneys-wont-use-stand-your-ground-defense/

Like I said, you guys should pay attention.

:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah Link to 2012 :blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah

[FuzzyLumpkins]

"During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing (stand your ground) to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof."



How Fuzzy will spin this into he knew this all along should be entertaining.

The initial SYG hearing was in 2012. There has not been any activity for quite some time. Dates of sources are only relevant when the data in it is made irrelevant. It has not been.

I don't see how I need to spin when O'Mara is on record as stating, "The facts don't seem to support a 'stand your ground' defense." That was the reason why I posted that link. Sure he has already backtracked. And :lol at O'Mara "(telling) Judge Debra Nelson." Anything.

When O'Mara's backtracking includes not declining to use the statute at the hearing, making statements about a lack of evidence being the reason why, and requesting a new hearing then you let me know. Until then my point still stands: SYG is not an issue in this case. He poisoned his own well.

You guys GOP circle jerk is so cute though. You guys going to buttfuck later?

[TSA]

The initial SYG hearing was in 2012. There has not been any activity for quite some time. Dates of sources are only relevant when the data in it is made irrelevant. It has not been.

What I'm quoting came from a pre-trial hearing in April, 2013. You have not been following as closely as you'd like some to believe. You are wrong about stand your ground being irrelevant, admit it and move on.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/george-zimmerman-wont-seek-immunity-hearing-0

[Wild Cobra]

Let me get this straight. CC can call you any insult in the book regarding your intelligence level (which to be clear would be the likes of: idiot, village idiot, retard, moron, stupid ass, ect.) as long as he attacks the e-people that doesn't share your opinion?

Pretty submissive of you tbh, especially when I haven't even insulted you yet.
I figured it would put a stop to comments from idiots like you that cannot help but take any pot-shot at me available. The Yin/yang relationship can mean several things. Without CC clarifying, it wasn't necessarily an insult, so I was going to allow people to think as they wanted. He could have meant I was the intelligence to Fuzzy's stupidity. And you know what...

The Yin represents the bad aspects, the Yang represents the good aspects.

Words associated with Yin: dark, passive, downward, cold, contracting, and weak.

Words associated with Yang: bright, active, upward, hot, expanding, and strong.

[TeyshaBlue]

I figured it would put a stop to comments from idiots like you that cannot help but take any pot-shot at me available. The Yin/yang relationship can mean several things. Without CC clarifying, it wasn't necessarily an insult, so I was going to allow people to think as they wanted. He could have meant I was the intelligence to Fuzzy's stupidity. And you know what...

The Yin represents the bad aspects, the Yang represents the good aspects.

Words associated with Yin: dark, passive, downward, cold, contracting, and weak.

Words associated with Yang: bright, active, upward, hot, expanding, and strong.

You probably need to read up on Taoism before you pretend to understand what Yin and Yang actually represent. As it stands, your understanding is abysmally stunted.

[TeyshaBlue]

In short, it's not simply good aspects + bad aspects. http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

[TeyshaBlue]

*cue* My God. Must you libtards twist everything I say?

[Trill Clinton]

DNA Tests Prove Trayvon Martin Did Not Inflict Serious Injury to George Zimmerman

June 12, 2013 News (http://breakingbrown.com/category/uncategorized/), ybw (http://breakingbrown.com/category/ybw/)
In order for George Zimmerman to be acquitted of murder charges, the defendant must show that he was in a fight for his life when he fired a fatal shot into Martin’s chest. This means Zimmerman must prove that Trayvon Martin caused his injuries in order to demonstrate that he fired in self defense, but as the Daily Kos points out (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/09/1214336/-DNA-Report-does-NOT-support-Zimmerman-s-claim-that-Trayvon-Martin-caused-his-injuries), the DNA tests in the case do not support Zimmerman’s story.
Firstly, the DNA tests do not show any of George Zimmerman’s skin under Trayvon Martin’s fingernails:
RESULTS
Exhibit ME2: Fingernail scrapings represented as being from Trayvon Benjamin Martin
“gave chemical indications for the presence of blood”
ME 2A Right hand: “No DNA results foreign to Trayvon Benjamin Martin (ME-3) were
found on Exhibit ME-2A”
ME 2B Left hand: “No DNA results were obtained from Exhibit ME-2B

But how could Trayvon Martin grab Zimmerman’s bald head and bash it into the ground without getting skin under his nails? And, as The Washington Post‘s Jonathan Capehart reported in September of 2012 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/george-zimmermans-dna-problem/2012/09/30/40605a58-0a46-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html), none of Zimmerman’s DNA was found on the cuffs/sleeves of Martin’s hoodie,
causing Kendall Coffey, former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida to conclude, “Unless Trayvon Martin was wearing gloves and a bonnet, it would normally be expected that there would be some evidence of him on the garment.”
From Daily Kos:

The Jury will see that the Autopsy report shows Trayvon had “a 1/4″ x 1/8″ small abrasion on the left fourth finger.” The Jury will also see that the Autopsy does not mention any: blood, dirt, defensive wounds or offensive wounds on Trayvon Martin’s knuckles, palms, wrists, fingers or thumbs — which dispels Zimmerman’s claim that Trayvon punched him in the nose 25-30 times, covered his nose and mouth while at the same slamming his head into the sidewalk over a dozen times.

Jurors will also see pictures of Zimmerman’s hands after he fatally shot Trayvon Martin, showing absolutely no abrasions or defensive wounds. A man who had been in the fight of his life wouldn’t have clean hands:
http://breakingbrown.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hands1.jpg (http://breakingbrown.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hands1.jpg)

In addition, even though Zimmerman said he’d been pinned down by Trayvon, there was no mud or grass on his back.
Zimmerman also admitted holding Trayvon Martin face down in the mud at one point, a story supported by the mud and dirt on Trayvon’s clothes:
I was on top of him, straddling him, he was face down, when he kept hitting me in the face it felt like something was in his hands, so I thought he had a weapon, so I grabbed his hands and pushed them away from his body, and I said, “STOP! Don’t move.” He was saying something like “ahhhh ahhhhh and cursing” and I said, “STOP, don’t move” and then somebody came and had a flashlight and I thought was a cop and I said – oh and I still had my gun in my hand as I was holding his hands apart and I said are you a cop he said “no” but I’ll call them. I said, “I don’t need you to do that I need you to help me restrain this guy.”

[Sportcamper]

That is some crazy stuff Trill…What possible explanation could there be for Zimmerman’s bloody head & broken nose? How does one break their own nose & not have blood on their own hands?

[Creepn]

DNA Tests Prove Trayvon Martin Did Not Inflict Serious Injury to George Zimmerman

June 12, 2013 News (http://breakingbrown.com/category/uncategorized/), ybw (http://breakingbrown.com/category/ybw/)
In order for George Zimmerman to be acquitted of murder charges, the defendant must show that he was in a fight for his life when he fired a fatal shot into Martin’s chest. This means Zimmerman must prove that Trayvon Martin caused his injuries in order to demonstrate that he fired in self defense, but as the Daily Kos points out (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/09/1214336/-DNA-Report-does-NOT-support-Zimmerman-s-claim-that-Trayvon-Martin-caused-his-injuries), the DNA tests in the case do not support Zimmerman’s story.
Firstly, the DNA tests do not show any of George Zimmerman’s skin under Trayvon Martin’s fingernails:
RESULTS
Exhibit ME2: Fingernail scrapings represented as being from Trayvon Benjamin Martin
“gave chemical indications for the presence of blood”
ME 2A Right hand: “No DNA results foreign to Trayvon Benjamin Martin (ME-3) were
found on Exhibit ME-2A”
ME 2B Left hand: “No DNA results were obtained from Exhibit ME-2B

But how could Trayvon Martin grab Zimmerman’s bald head and bash it into the ground without getting skin under his nails? And, as The Washington Post‘s Jonathan Capehart reported in September of 2012 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/george-zimmermans-dna-problem/2012/09/30/40605a58-0a46-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html), none of Zimmerman’s DNA was found on the cuffs/sleeves of Martin’s hoodie,
causing Kendall Coffey, former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida to conclude, “Unless Trayvon Martin was wearing gloves and a bonnet, it would normally be expected that there would be some evidence of him on the garment.”
From Daily Kos:

The Jury will see that the Autopsy report shows Trayvon had “a 1/4″ x 1/8″ small abrasion on the left fourth finger.” The Jury will also see that the Autopsy does not mention any: blood, dirt, defensive wounds or offensive wounds on Trayvon Martin’s knuckles, palms, wrists, fingers or thumbs — which dispels Zimmerman’s claim that Trayvon punched him in the nose 25-30 times, covered his nose and mouth while at the same slamming his head into the sidewalk over a dozen times.

Jurors will also see pictures of Zimmerman’s hands after he fatally shot Trayvon Martin, showing absolutely no abrasions or defensive wounds. A man who had been in the fight of his life wouldn’t have clean hands:
http://breakingbrown.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hands1.jpg (http://breakingbrown.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hands1.jpg)

In addition, even though Zimmerman said he’d been pinned down by Trayvon, there was no mud or grass on his back.
Zimmerman also admitted holding Trayvon Martin face down in the mud at one point, a story supported by the mud and dirt on Trayvon’s clothes:
I was on top of him, straddling him, he was face down, when he kept hitting me in the face it felt like something was in his hands, so I thought he had a weapon, so I grabbed his hands and pushed them away from his body, and I said, “STOP! Don’t move.” He was saying something like “ahhhh ahhhhh and cursing” and I said, “STOP, don’t move” and then somebody came and had a flashlight and I thought was a cop and I said – oh and I still had my gun in my hand as I was holding his hands apart and I said are you a cop he said “no” but I’ll call them. I said, “I don’t need you to do that I need you to help me restrain this guy.”


lol what in the hell is this? So where in the hell is the guy with the flashlight?

[Wild Cobra]

You probably need to read up on Taoism before you pretend to understand what Yin and Yang actually represent. As it stands, your understanding is abysmally stunted.
LOL...

Yin/Yang isn't strictly Taoism. That's why I didn't complain about CC's use, because I didn't ask him to elaborate.

You're a fucking idiot. Shouldn't you ask a person to elaborate before forming an opinion?




yin and yang
noun
(in Chinese philosophy and religion) two principles, one negative, dark, and feminine (yin) and one positive, bright, and masculine (yang) whose interaction influences the destinies of creatures and things.

[TeyshaBlue]

Never said it was a Taoist exclusive construct. Lrn to read, fucking moron.

In Taoist metaphysics, good-bad distinctions and other dichotomous moral judgments are perceptual, not real; so, yin-yang is an indivisible whole. In the ethics of Confucianism on the other hand, most notably in the philosophy of Dong Zhongshu, (c. 2nd century BCE) a moral dimension is attached to the yin-yang idea.

http://www.rosenpublishing.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&isbn=9780823940813&option=com_virtuemart

[TeyshaBlue]

Don't try to be a Google expert on this too, WC. I'm fairly familiar with this subject.

[Wild Cobra]

Never said it was a Taoist exclusive construct. Lrn to read, fucking moron.

In Taoist metaphysics, good-bad distinctions and other dichotomous moral judgments are perceptual, not real; so, yin-yang is an indivisible whole. In the ethics of Confucianism on the other hand, most notably in the philosophy of Dong Zhongshu, (c. 2nd century BCE) a moral dimension is attached to the yin-yang idea.

http://www.rosenpublishing.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&isbn=9780823940813&option=com_virtuemart
So, it only means one thing to you, rather than the many ways it has changed over the centuries.

Ok.....

[TeyshaBlue]

Read some books on the subject and get back to me, Capt. Google.:rolleyes

[Wild Cobra]

Don't try to be a Google expert on this too, WC. I'm fairly familiar with this subject.

Expert at what ever indoctrinated view you hold.

You're a fucking idiot to say that variations do not exist that support what I said.

I'm amazed at how many seemingly intelligent people like you are so butt-hurt over me that you have to attack over the simple shit, and make a thread about me...

[Wild Cobra]

Read some books on the subject and get back to me, Capt. Google.:rolleyes
I lived in SE Asia for two years idiot.

[TeyshaBlue]

Fuck you, Capn. Google. You have no idea how many iterations of yin/yang there are nor do you even have the slightest idea of it's origin and evolution. You simply regurgitate what you find in a 10 second google search and think you're a fucking expert. laughable.

[TeyshaBlue]

I lived in SE Asia for two years idiot.

So fucking what? You lived there and you still have no idea what you're talking about.:lmao

[Creepn]

I lived in SE Asia for two years idiot.

SE Asia as in not in China Asia?

[TeyshaBlue]

Sorry for the hijack, Trill. WC and Boutons just kill me.:lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What I'm quoting came from a pre-trial hearing in April, 2013. You have not been following as closely as you'd like some to believe. You are wrong about stand your ground being irrelevant, admit it and move on.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/george-zimmerman-wont-seek-immunity-hearing-0

He could plead insanity, no? You should admit that that is an option and move on.

[TeyshaBlue]

He could plead insanity, no? You should admit that that is an option and move on.

That's what I'm gonna do.

[TSA]

He could plead insanity, no? You should admit that that is an option and move on.

You're the one who claimed that stand your ground was irrelevant in the case, you were wrong. Is it really this hard for you to admit that?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You're the one who claimed that stand your ground was irrelevant in the case, you were wrong. Is it really this hard for you to admit that?

I was the one that pointed out that even if a defense is possible that does not make it relevant to the case. He could plead guilty, nolo contendre and all manner of things. He could probably ask for summary judgment etc. The end of the world by Xanu is a possibility too.

The defense attorney stated that he would not pursue the SYG defense because there was not enough evidence.

[TSA]

:blah:blah:blah"During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof.":blah:blah:blah

O'Mara will sit back and see how it plays out first with the defense's case, and will then decide on using stand your ground. It is still relevant, sorry.

[Trill Clinton]

That is some crazy stuff Trill…What possible explanation could there be for Zimmerman’s bloody head & broken nose? How does one break their own nose & not have blood on their own hands?

that's a good question. the lack of dna on tray just tells me it was a average brawl, zimmerman's ass whoopin' was nothing special.


lol what in the hell is this? So where in the hell is the guy with the flashlight?

here is the lank to the articlehttp://breakingbrown.com/2013/06/dna-tests-prove-trayvon-martin-did-not-inflict-serious-injury-to-george-zimmerman/

i think flashlight guy and the lady who saw it through her window gave the earliest accounts to what they saw.

[Wild Cobra]

I guess they think Travon was going to scratch like a girl...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:blah:blah:blah"During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof.":blah:blah:blah

O'Mara will sit back and see how it plays out first with the defense's case, and will then decide on using stand your ground. It is still relevant, sorry.

Show me where he recused his statement in court that there was insufficient evidence to pursue that defense. Further it is not up to him that he can revisit the hearing if he were to petition it. That is up to the judge.

[Th'Pusher]

You're a fucking idiot...



It's always amusing to see WC call someone an idiot, but seeing him call TB an idiot is particularly amusing to me fo some reason.

[TSA]

Show me where he recused his statement in court that there was insufficient evidence to pursue that defense. Further it is not up to him that he can revisit the hearing if he were to petition it. That is up to the judge.

No one is rehearing anything. Stand your ground hasn't been used, which still makes it an option, making it very relevant.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No one is rehearing anything. Stand your ground hasn't been used, which still makes it an option, making it very relevant.

SYG was invoked and then withdrawn. The statement that he made was at a hearing regarding that.

Pay attention.

[TSA]

I'd advise the same to you. We'll leave it as this and revisit later after the defense realizes it needs to be used. Either way, fuck Zimmerman. I hope he rots.

[Wild Cobra]

It's always amusing to see WC call someone an idiot, but seeing him call TB an idiot is particularly amusing to me fo some reason.
Why?

He's an idiot. It's obvious he fills in the blanks of things I don't say, so he can toot his horn. I just sit and laugh at you idiots.

Notice how he comes out of the gate, calling me stuopid, by his own assumptions?


In short, it's not simply good aspects + bad aspects. http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

Where did I say that? I didn't. The loser is making it up! I know there is more to it, but he is so fucking ignorant and full of himself, he thinks he knows what I know, or don't know.

He is intelligent, but at the same time, a pathetic idiot. If you think he is any better than me, or others, when he makes shit up...

What do you think of ethics and integrity? Don't bother. I know you lack it as well.

As long as you adolescent bullies are going to attack with assumption, I will laugh at your stupidity. I will only say enough as to keep the comedy club atmosphere...

I own you assholes, and you don't even realize it.

[BobaFett1]

If Zimmerman screwed up he deserves to rot in jail.

[Wild Cobra]

If Zimmerman screwed up he deserves to rot in jail.
It depends on how much by.

I think he will be found "not guilty," and from all I see, that is the correct verdict.

[TeyshaBlue]

Why?

He's an idiot. It's obvious he fills in the blanks of things I don't say, so he can toot his horn. I just sit and laugh at you idiots.

Notice how he comes out of the gate, calling me stuopid, by his own assumptions?



Where did I say that? I didn't. The loser is making it up! I know there is more to it, but he is so fucking ignorant and full of himself, he thinks he knows what I know, or don't know.

He is intelligent, but at the same time, a pathetic idiot. If you think he is any better than me, or others, when he makes shit up...

What do you think of ethics and integrity? Don't bother. I know you lack it as well.

As long as you adolescent bullies are going to attack with assumption, I will laugh at your stupidity. I will only say enough as to keep the comedy club atmosphere...

I own you assholes, and you don't even realize it.


The Yin represents the bad aspects, the Yang represents the good aspects.

Fucking idiot.

[Wild Cobra]

Fucking idiot.

Then tell us oh mighty one.

What is the truth?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol

WC once again completely misses the point.

[Fabbs]

here is the lank to the articlehttp://breakingbrown.com/2013/06/dna-tests-prove-trayvon-martin-did-not-inflict-serious-injury-to-george-zimmerman/

i think flashlight guy and the lady who saw it through her window gave the earliest accounts to what they saw.
:lol Breaking Brown.

So yeah, where is the flashlight guy? The BB article did not address. Seems he will be a key witness.

[Trill Clinton]

zimmerman's daddy writes a book and says "the true racists are blacks"

As the murder trial for George Zimmerman begins, his father has released an emotional and highly unusual e-book, publicly opining on all aspects of the case. The book by Robert Zimmerman Sr., called “Florida v. Zimmerman: Uncovering the Malicious Prosecution of my Son, George” was released today on Amazon for $3.99.

The most striking chapter is called “Who Are The True Racists,” an apparent effort to rebut claims that his son’s actions were racially motivated.

Previously, Zimmerman Sr. “believed generally racism was a thing of the past.” He says that, personally, he hadn’t encountered much racism, even though his wife is Hispanic. But after his son shot and killed Trayvon Martin, however, Zimmerman learned that racism is “flourishing at the insistence of some in the African American Community.” He then goes on to list various black leaders and organizations that he believes are racist:

Congressional Black Caucus. “[A] pathetic, self-serving group of racists… advancing their purely racist agenda.” He later adds that “all members of Congress should be ashamed of the Congressional Black Caucus, as should be their constituents.” And finally: “They are truly a disgrace to all Americans.”

The NAACP. “Simply promotes racism and hatred for their own, primarily finical, interests” and “without prejudice and racial divide, the NAACP would simply cease to exist.”

NAACP President Benjamin Jealous. “[W]hat I would expect of a racist.”

Trayvon Martin’s funeral director. A “racial activist and former head of the local NAACP.”

Benjamin Crump, Natialie Jackson and Darrly Parks, attorneys for Travyon Martin’s family. “The scheme team.”

The National Basketball Players Association.

Black Chamber of Commerce.

National Association of Black Law Enforcement Officers.

National Black United Fund.

United Negro College Fund.

While stopping short of explicitly calling President Obama a racist, Zimmerman Sr. does say that Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder have “shamelessly” sought to exploit his son’s case “to obtain great advantage in the African-American community.”



With the first week of his son George Zimmerman‘s trial coming to a close and Father’s Day just around the corner, the defendant’s father Robert Zimmerman Sr. must have thought now was the perfect time to release his new e-book, “Florida v. Zimmerman: Uncovering the Malicious Prosecution of my Son, George.” The controversial text contains the bold claim that April’s Boston Marathon bombing never would have happened had the FBI not been spending so much time investigating the death of Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman directs most of the blame to Attorney General Eric Holder, who he says “shamelessly” hyped his son’s alleged murder case “to obtain great advantage in the African-American community.” He goes on to claim that Holder’s decision to investigate whether Martin’s death constituted a federal civil rights violation led to the FBI to not have “adequate resources to investigate clearly identified potential terrorist” threat in Boston. “Tragically,” Zimmerman writes, “we have suffered the consequences of Mr. Holder’s politically motivated decisions.”

Until now, Robert Zimmerman, Sr. has not been nearly as vocal about the case as his other son, Robert Zimmerman, Jr., who himself has been accused of racism for various tweets he has sent out about the case over the last year.

[Trill Clinton]

its so funny when these devil's claim blacks are the most racist group hahaha. its their go to card when confronted with truth and bringing up their own hypocrisy. what are blacks doing that is so racist??? are we running around here lyching yt's, putting them in chains and making them our slaves, are we referring to grown ass men as "boys", making laws that set yt's up for failure, oppressing them??? what is it??? he doesn't know the first thing about being the victim of racism.

[Wild Cobra]

Well, I think most people agree blacks are the most racist group in America.

Whites don't treat blacks like they did two generations ago but blacks have taught their kids to hate whites. This is an obvious truth in society.

[Creepn]

Well, I think most people agree blacks are the most racist group in America.

Whites don't treat blacks like they did two generations ago but blacks have taught their kids to hate whites. This is an obvious truth in society.

How is it an obvious truth? I'm all ears.

I still read and hear a lot of the word "n****" being flown around and I recall you calling me one 5 times in a single thread. Remember that? Do homework and compare the amount of slurs you see on this site alone and get back to me.

[Wild Cobra]

How is it an obvious truth? I'm all ears.

I still read and hear a lot of the word "n****" being flown around and I recall you calling me one 5 times in a single thread. Remember that? Do homework and compare the amount of slurs you see on this site alone and get back to me.
I don't recall ever calling you that, but I have acknowledged if I wanted to piss someone off, I would use that words I thought it would work the best. That doesn't mean someone is a racist if they choose to use your weakness against you.

Link please.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well, I think most people agree blacks are the most racist group in America.

Whites don't treat blacks like they did two generations ago but blacks have taught their kids to hate whites. This is an obvious truth in society.

So what you think black folks sit around the living room discussing ways to hate whitey?

The only thing that is obvious is that you make shit up as you go along.

You think lay man thinks as you do but the lay man is not dumb enough to think as you do.

[Fabbs]

How much have the taxpayers paid so far in Trayvons prosecution of Zimmerman?
What is the anticipated total when finished?

Zimmermans private defense fund.
http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/index.php/updates-2/21-zimmerman-defense-fund-out-of-money

[boutons_deux]

How much have the taxpayers paid so far in Trayvons prosecution of Zimmerman?


it's state of florida vs GZ, not Martins parents vs GZ

If FL loses the criminal suit, I figure the Martins will start a civil suit (as in the OJ trial, worked great), maybe even the US govt vs GZ as a civil rights crime.

[Fabbs]

How much have the taxpayers paid so far in the State of Floridas prosecution of Zimmerman?
What is the anticipated total when finished?

[boutons_deux]

I figure it will run to $1M

then if he goes to jail, $30K/year to jail him.

[TeyshaBlue]

Breaking news.

A jury of six women has been chosen to hear the George Zimmerman second-degree murder case.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/justice/florida-zimmerman-trial/index.html

[clambake]

lol