Trumotion

[sjacquemotte]

TV co. are pushing real hard with b.s.
For instance. LG has 120hz Trumotion which is only 60hz, essentially. Just giving a heads up.

[leemajors]

My Samsung was 240/120 on box. Everything looks too smooth and unrealistic. Had to turn it off fast.

[sjacquemotte]

My Samsung was 240/120 on box. Everything looks too smooth and unrealistic. Had to turn it off fast.
Yeah the Soap Opera effect. I wanted to be able to turn mine on for sports but nothing else. But with Trumotion, there are no controls. It's allegedly on. But it's just a 60hz. Glad you got what you wanted.

[leemajors]

Yeah the Soap Opera effect. I wanted to be able to turn mine on for sports but nothing else. But with Trumotion, there are no controls. It's allegedly on. But it's just a 60hz. Glad you got what you wanted.

It's buried in the settings, but I can turn it off on mine.

[Wild Cobra]

Well, if it actually reduces the judder, I'm all for it. That shit bothers the hell out of me.

[leemajors]

Well, if it actually reduces the judder, I'm all for it. That shit bothers the hell out of me.

It sounds great in theory, but the execution just doesn't cut it. It smooths everything out too much and people end up walking/moving like the robots in I. Robot. It just doesn't work right.

[DJR210]

HDTV's w/ 120/240/480hz are taking a base signal refresh rate of 60hz and multiplying it by adding "predicted" frames in between the normal frames. It's all a gimmick w/ HDTV's.

Now if you get a true 120hz monitor, and run something like a game at 120 FPS, you WILL notice the difference. Hard to imagine much improvement from 60 FPS, but 120 FPS is SILKY smooth. It will take a good deal of graphical horsepower to push a locked in 120 FPS with today's games however.

[spursncowboys]

HDTV's w/ 120/240/480hz are taking a base signal refresh rate of 60hz and multiplying it by adding "predicted" frames in between the normal frames. It's all a gimmick w/ HDTV's.

Now if you get a true 120hz monitor, and run something like a game at 120 FPS, you WILL notice the difference. Hard to imagine much improvement from 60 FPS, but 120 FPS is SILKY smooth. It will take a good deal of graphical horsepower to push a locked in 120 FPS with today's games however.

Yeah I realize that most tv co. compress and push out 60hz but to call a 60hz a 120hz is a scam.

[ElNono]

I don't understand what's the complaint. The display is indeed 120hz/240hz/480hz (120/240/480 refreshes per second).

Things like 3:2 pulldown (duplicating frames) to convert from 30hz to 60hz has been done since the old CRT TVs. The source signals just don't provide enough frames per second.

The difference now is that these TVs can do motion compensation (as DJR210 said) to reduce blur, etc, instead of just duplicating frames.

Not sure where the 'scam' is. Heck, as I was pointing out the other day, providers like Dish broadcast movies at 1080p24 (24hz) max, and rely on the TV to do the motion compensation so you don't end up with choppy video.

[DJR210]

I don't think scam is the proper term. I'm sure Samsung puts the fine print somewhere to the public. It's also a refresh rate at the number advertised, but most people don't understand the technology. TV manufacturers understand the average electronics consumer is attracted to numbers, and something like a refresh rate attached to a growing yearly number is good marketing.

It's the same way Plasma tries to shove 600hz down your throat even though there's more to the "600hz" claim.

[ElNono]

I don't think scam is the proper term. I'm sure Samsung puts the fine print somewhere to the public. It's also a refresh rate at the number advertised, but most people don't understand the technology. TV manufacturers understand the average electronics consumer is attracted to numbers, and something like a refresh rate attached to a growing yearly number is good marketing.

It's the same way Plasma tries to shove 600hz down your throat even though there's more to the "600hz" claim.

Agreed.