Manu is done

[benefactor]

I tried to believe he had one run left in him, but the writing is very plainly on the wall now.

Thanks for everything Manu. Please retire.

[BatManu20]

Nope, he's done. And i'm the biggest Manu fan here. Guy is officially done. Sad to see tbh.




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[dg7md]

Fuck Manu.

He will cost us this series.

[smackdaddy11]

2yr 4 mil contract. 1 penny more is worthless

[Richie]

It's honestly sad watching him in this series

[Tmac3]

Tmac still ready to use...

[baseline bum]

Is this series for Manu Ginobili? He's just out of control and his retarded turnovers and long threes give Miami so many easy running opportunities.

[slick'81]

Hello 7 mill a year for 2 seasons

[cute_spursfan]

yup. former shell of himself.

[Typhoon]

same here huge manu fan and i have to say, every time hes on the floor i fear the worst for the spurs, he is making zero impact in this series, which is really sad, because this is do or die for the spurs.

[dallasmaverickslose]

Stop trashing Manu. He's just not good anymore. He's old. It's not like he's trying to lose

[stephen jackson]

he still out there lmaooooo

[EIC]

He makes me long for Bonner.

[2centsworth]

they all get old. Even the great Muhammad Ali looked terrible

[MannyIsGod]

Hello 7 mill a year for 2 seasons

Would be a gigantic mistake. If Manu wants to play here he needs to do it at maybe 1.5 million per year. It sounds harsh, but Manu is not a good player right now. I can't imagine he's going to be very good next year.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Spurs give him a "thank you" contract I guess, but I think it would be a tremendous mistake.

[Spurs Brazil]

One of my favorites player all time. But he looks done :depressed

[Johnny RIngo]

Maybe Stephen Jackson had a point about him being better than Ginobili. Manu fucking sucks. Has for a while now.

[Shabazz]

Take away that one wide open shot to beat the Warriors, and evaluate the rest of his postseason. He's been terrible.

They shouldn't even try to resign him. That is a waste of money. Time to draft a replacement.

[phxspurfan]

Dude kinda sucks now for sure. Let's hope he can dig deep and sink a few big shots in game 5.

[ernest787]

It sucks, I don't want to believe he is done, but right now it's hard not to. Hoping he has a little left in the tank ala Dwade tonight

[100%duncan]

Yep. Sad. Fucking. Sad. Couldn't have waited for fucking July.

[DatBoyGood]

Damn...and for TP to think Manu would be saving his best for the finals.

[benefactor]

Stop trashing Manu. He's just not good anymore. He's old. It's not like he's trying to lose
I've been leading the fucking charge for him to break through in these finals tbh.

[stephen jackson]

jack couldnt be worse than him. now i see what he saw

[Warlord23]

Hello 7 mill a year for 2 seasons

Wtf? More like 5-6 mil total for 2 seasons

[spurspokesman]

To all who defend manu, the fans aren't asking him for a 30 point game they are only asking him not to give the heat 30 points aka stay out of the way and make a few plays

[2centsworth]

Manu is one of my all time favorite players . Massive heart and winner, but every player gets old. He's done :(

[baseline bum]

God I hate seeing this because Manu is one of my favorite players in the history of the league. But it's not an accident that the team is -18 with Manu out there. I cringe every time he checks into the game this series. Miami's ability to close passing lanes and tip passes and their transition game are just a horrible matchup for Manu.

[dg7md]

It was a realistic possibility to win this in 5 if not for Ginobili ruining all chances for us.

He's done. I don't care if he blows up for more than 20 points ever again.

He's DONE.

[timtonymanu]

He's past the point of getting a "thank you" contract. His performance in these playoffs has been atrocious.

[noles1983]

fuck this has been, thanks for the memories(the good ones), now go away turnobili

[spursparker9]

Manu mentioned that he want to play 1 more season no matter it is with Spurs or not. (he hopes will be with spurs).

Maybe he will sign with Miami.

[Rapper]

The game2 loss and game 4 are on Manu

[ALVAREZ6]

He and Splitter were straight garbage tonight. Pathetic. Green and Leonard please play 38 minutes for the remaining games. Manu, don't play.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I don't know whether he's done or not. I'm a huge Manu homer and I think he's played horrendous tonight. There is no way to sugarcoat that. I don't want him to retire but playing like this it doesn't justify his minutes at all. Sorry.

[EIC]

Hopefully the extra day will give Pop a chance to get someone else up to speed before Game 5. Manu = Power Play for Heat. We know it. They know it.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The game2 loss and game 4 are on Manu

There is no such a thing as a loss on one player in a game of basketball.

[HI-FI]

he used to be one of my favorite players but all season I was saying in threads I thought he looked way too sloppy and shitty there. all you would hear is NonIssue or he's worth the money from CoM members.

If he's not fucking done, then maybe he can give us a few games left til this series is over. But beyond that, yeah....pretty fucking sad. Dude hasn't really shown up for a few years now.

[EIC]

I don't know whether he's done or not. I'm a huge Manu homer and I think he's played horrendous these playoffs. There is no way to sugarcoat that. I don't want him to retire but playing like this it doesn't justify his minutes at all. Sorry.

FIFY tbh.

[Johnny RIngo]

Damn...and for TP to think Manu would be saving his best for the finals.

Manu saves his best for Argentina. Doesn't give a fuck about the Spurs anymore. I could see the hunger from Parker and Duncan and the rest of the players(Leonard, Green) but all I see from Manu is someone waiting for the off-season.

[stephen jackson]

surprised manu can even dribble it out tbh

[Johnny RIngo]

Damn...and for TP to think Manu would be saving his best for the finals.

Manu saves his best for Argentina. Doesn't give a fuck about the Spurs anymore. I could see the hunger from Parker and Duncan and the rest of the players(Leonard, Green) but all I see from Manu is someone waiting for the off-season.

[KaiRMD1]

Yeah, Manu is done. He hasn't shown up the whole series tbh. The guy totally cost us the game tonight and I still remember when he was the Spurs' savior

[SpurSpurSpurs]

I tried to believe he had one run left in him, but the writing is very plainly on the wall now.

Thanks for everything Manu. Please retire.

He's not done, but he's half way there. Miami's defense is the culprit. Blitz double teams, block shots, straight up defense, anticipation to corner threes or any defense you can think of. Miami did it tonight. Game 2 all over again turnover wise. :(

[dg7md]

Manu should just play for the Heat in general. I'm sure the Heat won't mind him as their 8th option.

[Juggity]

Maybe Stephen Jackson had a point about him being better than Ginobili. Manu fucking sucks. Has for a while now.

:tu

[stephen jackson]

manu got us one chip, but now hes on pace too take away two chips
2006 & 2013

[baseline bum]

Manu saves his best for Argentina. Doesn't give a fuck about the Spurs anymore. I could see the hunger from Parker and Duncan and the rest of the players(Leonard, Green) but all I see from Manu is someone waiting for the off-season.

That's ridiculous. Manu plays at only one speed.

[baseline bum]

Manu saves his best for Argentina. Doesn't give a fuck about the Spurs anymore. I could see the hunger from Parker and Duncan and the rest of the players(Leonard, Green) but all I see from Manu is someone waiting for the off-season.

That's ridiculous. Manu plays at only one speed.

[SpursOwn]

He is literally my fav player ever. But fuck him for this series, fuck off manu you fucking suck

[TheGreatYacht]

This is where the Spurs could have used Stephen Jackson. Thanks a lot Pop. I agree with everyone. Manu needs to hang it up. The only way I'll forgive him is if he shows up for Game 5 and the Spurs end up winning the title. Tiago played like a complete scrub too. Soft as* little bit*h can't go up with two hands and dunk. Spurs better not resign him Go after DH12, Al Jefferson, or David West.

[slick'81]

Even 5-6 a year is stretching it and were gonna use our cap slave on tiago/manu ?!

[slick'81]

Even 5-6 a year is stretching it and were gonna use our cap space on tiago/manu ?!

[ElNono]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216903&p=6659112#post6659112

[Tmac3]

Meanwhile......mcgrady waits

[Dverde]

Dude is still good enough for an NBA bench, but he no longer can be your sixth man. He has been dreadful from 3pt line. My guess he is shooting 15% for the playoffs.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Manu is my favorite player EVER I literally love him but yeah he just isn't the same no one can beat father time win Or lose this series let's not forget what he has done for this organization he is one of the best spurs EVER hey he is 35 years old with his style of play what do you expect. Tim Duncan played awful too though tbh I still love Manu though.

[in2deep]

agree :(

[rudwick]

2yr 4 mil contract. 1 penny more is worthless

0 years 0 million
I might hire him to replace Budenholzer.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Manu is my favourite player. And I am actually borderline delusional that he will always compete. But truth be said, this was a complete shocker of a game by him. Never thought I would say this, but Manu actually hurt the Spurs rather than helping them. At times he looked like the worst player on the court. Unimaginable.

Thankfully, knowing Manu, and the fact that he is just 1 year removed from a spectacular show in the Olympics, I don't think he will play this bad again in the series. Spurs need 2 wins and I think Manu will be pivotal atleast in one.

[timmy2003]

He's completely washed up. Its so sad but its better for him to retire after this series.

[TampaDude]

I love the guy, but yeah, he's done. Thanks for the memories, Manu! :toast

[TheGoldStandard]

He's not completely washed up but his decisions are shitty.. He doesn't have the step to take that behind the back dribble as much as he does anymore, usually gets stopped or picked. He can still hit a shot when he decides to take something makeable, too many times he's shooting 3's for no reason with a guy a foot away contesting. If he'd just split the difference between that 3 and a drive and pull up for a 15 footer he'd get some semblance of a rhythm. It's sad but he's just trying to do too much and he needs to play within himself. I agree though, after this season is over he needs to retire.

[superjames1992]

Maybe Stephen Jackson had a point about him being better than Ginobili. Manu fucking sucks. Has for a while now.
SJAX sucked worse. :lol

[Skull-1]

He's finished. However, our guys played soft, particularly Tim. Stripped, blocked, short d-cking easy shots at the rim. But Manu is finished and it hurts to watch...

[tim_duncan_fan]

Love Manu but for the love of Christ, he is murdering us . The fucking retarded jump passes on every fucking pick and roll are killing my soul. The random, contested, long threesaare sapping away my life. The ole defense is frying my synapses.

[TheGoldStandard]

He's finished. However, our guys played soft, particularly Tim. Stripped, blocked, short d-cking easy shots at the rim. But Manu is finished and it hurts to watch...

Tiago is charmin soft.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Timmy just said it best Manu is being to unselfish

[BatManu20]

Noam Schiller ‏@noamschiller (https://twitter.com/noamschiller)1h (https://twitter.com/noamschiller/status/345377045028667393)
I just wish Manu Ginobili were alive to see this.


Not Bill Walton ‏@NotBillWalton (https://twitter.com/NotBillWalton)1h (https://twitter.com/NotBillWalton/status/345376568908058624)
Manu Ginobili is still struggling. A man rapidly losing his hair hasn't performed this badly since Bruce Willis' bad acting in Hudson Hawk.


Michael Wilbon ‏@RealMikeWilbon (https://twitter.com/RealMikeWilbon)1h (https://twitter.com/RealMikeWilbon/status/345374519696965632)
This used to be Ginobili time, the end of the quarter...but not anymore...Wonder if the could use Stephen Jackson right about now...


Bryan Gutierrez ‏@BallinWithBryan (https://twitter.com/BallinWithBryan)59m (https://twitter.com/BallinWithBryan/status/345380293311594497)
Amber Alert has now been announced for one Manu Ginobili.

3030 ‏@jose3030 (https://twitter.com/jose3030)now (https://twitter.com/jose3030/status/345396889442742272)
Manu Ginobili's Finals? 7.3 PPG, 28.6 % FG, 76.9 % FT, 20% 3PT, 2.5 RB, 3 AS, 2.8 TO in ~24.6 MN


Dwain Price ‏@DwainPrice (https://twitter.com/DwainPrice)24s (https://twitter.com/DwainPrice/status/345396862855045121)
Is Manu Ginobili hurt? Or is he on the verge of retiring? I've never seen him play so bad in multiple games. He's been a non-factor.


Will Goodwin ‏@willGOOD_WIN (https://twitter.com/willGOOD_WIN)14m (https://twitter.com/willGOOD_WIN/status/345393534548975619)
BAD IDEA ----> RT @EyeOnBasketball (https://twitter.com/EyeOnBasketball): Duncan says the Spurs need Manu Ginobili to be more selfish.


Brian Mahoney ‏@briancmahoney (https://twitter.com/briancmahoney)57m (https://twitter.com/briancmahoney/status/345380791276150784)
Not even sure it's an exaggeration if I said this was the worst game I could ever remember seeing Ginobili play.



Mike Gutierrez ‏@Micgeee (https://twitter.com/Micgeee)57m (https://twitter.com/Micgeee/status/345380893969494019)
Ginobili, if you can hear me, WE miss you!!!!!!!


Aaron Goldhammer ‏@HammerNation19 (https://twitter.com/HammerNation19)57m (https://twitter.com/HammerNation19/status/345380937837711361)
I've seen nothing to tell me Ginobili deserves another minute. He's been beyond awful


Mo Twister ‏@djmotwister (https://twitter.com/djmotwister)57m (https://twitter.com/djmotwister/status/345380977792647169)
Ginobili and Spiltter are ruining Neal and Green's series.


San Antonio Problems ‏@SanAntonioProbz (https://twitter.com/SanAntonioProbz)55m (https://twitter.com/SanAntonioProbz/status/345381637850271744)
Whenever you're ready to show up to Finals Ginobili, we're here waiting. 


InsideHoops.com ‏@InsideHoops (https://twitter.com/InsideHoops)47m (https://twitter.com/InsideHoops/status/345383778719522816)
Breaking: Manu Ginobili hit a shot. #NBAFinals (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NBAFinals&src=hash)


Troy Mitchell ⛅ ‏@TroyBeThyName (https://twitter.com/TroyBeThyName)43m (https://twitter.com/TroyBeThyName/status/345384813299134464)
⚠MISSING⚠Name: Emanuel GinobiliTwitter: @manuginobili (https://twitter.com/manuginobili)Nationality: ArgentinianFeatures: Big Nose, Bald SpotPlease return to NBA Finals.


Tom Haberstroh ‏@tomhaberstroh (https://twitter.com/tomhaberstroh)29m (https://twitter.com/tomhaberstroh/status/345388267925041152)
As I mentioned in my postgame report, Manu Ginobili has failed to score double-figures in seven of his last nine games.


Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless (https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless)58m (https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/345381301412560896)
I have never seen Manu Ginobili play so poorly in such a big game.


Jake Ortiz ‏@Jakeo361 (https://twitter.com/Jakeo361)3m (https://twitter.com/Jakeo361/status/345395190149812226)
Manu Ginobili was impotent on offense & Splitter is a complete waste of space~ Stephen A. Smith on San Antonio Spurs offense tonight...


Joe Williams IV ‏@joewilli4 (https://twitter.com/joewilli4)5m (https://twitter.com/joewilli4/status/345394944103575553)
"The only reason I'm saying Ginobili gave us almost nothing instead of nothing is because Tiago Splitter was actually worse" @stephenasmith (https://twitter.com/stephenasmith)


Zach ‏@zach_theman (https://twitter.com/zach_theman)1m (https://twitter.com/zach_theman/status/345396284695379968)
Manu Ginobili needs to retire at the end of the season and ill leave it at that


tom mckenna ‏@tmckenna1 (https://twitter.com/tmckenna1)2m (https://twitter.com/tmckenna1/status/345396088313888769)
Ginobili four games in could absolutely be accused of some 1919 White Sox level scandal.


Ra'Quan O'Bryant ‏@RaQuanO (https://twitter.com/RaQuanO)30s (https://twitter.com/RaQuanO/status/345397510984056832)
What is wrong with Manu Ginobili...That's all I have to say



Craig Rundle ‏@CoachRundle (https://twitter.com/CoachRundle)now (https://twitter.com/CoachRundle/status/345397865817989120)
The way Ginobili is playing now he would be non- competitive even in a 50 and over league. Playing old and slow.



Basketball Analyst ‏@MGTHEFRESHGUY (https://twitter.com/MGTHEFRESHGUY)16s (https://twitter.com/MGTHEFRESHGUY/status/345397752290746370)
Where is Manu Ginobili? There's an amber alert for him tonight in San Antonio. He's missing.





:cry

[Chinook]

It's sad. But I still have some hope. If he gives one good game, it may be enough. But damn if he can even give a good minute now.

I honestly don't want him back unless it's for the minimum. Forget using the room exception; save that for someone who's going to be in the rotation. Re-sign Neal/Splitter or look for a marquee free agent. Right now, the Spurs just can't depend on him anymore, and that won't change even if he can bounce back in the next 2-3 games.

[DPG21920]

I refuse to believe he's done. He's talented enough, even if hobbled, to play so much better. He's just faltering at the moment.

[cd021]

Wtf? More like 5-6 mil total for 2 seasons

Its a difference of a $1-2 million spread out over two seasons. Not sure why you're getting worked up over that. The Spurs are going to have plenty of cap (probably $10-12 million) given how unsightly Splitter has been.

[Skull-1]

Tiago is charmin soft.

Yep. Even Leonard missed some point blank shots. Weak....

[davidbowie]

more like MANURE GINOBILI amirite????

[NRHector]

Ungreatful bastards

[lefty]

Fuck its not like he is injured or something

Dude has gone full retard

[cd021]

I refuse to believe he's done. He's talented enough, even if hobbled, to play so much better. He's just faltering at the moment.

He can't get the rim. He relies on his jumper which has been sketchy for the past season. He also takes bad shots, gambles and often loses on D, and turns the ball over quite a bit.

[DPG21920]

Yall are nuts if you think Manu and/or Tiago aren't going to get paid. Especially Tiago.

[cd021]

Ungreatful bastards

Its not ungrateful. He was awful tonight, just awful.

[cd021]

Yall are nuts if you think Manu and/or Tiago aren't going to get paid. Especially Tiago.

Tiago entering the post season could have been worth a $40 million over 4 year deal (with someone overpaying for $12 a season) he has been bad all post season. He range is more in the $32 million-4 Year deal. The Spurs could resign him to that and save valuable cap.

[SA210]

Still my favorite player :/ Manu, where are u man? Just one game, please.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I don't need him to play great or even well, just stop fueling Miami's runs. He's almost single-handedly evened a series that is naturally lopsided toward the Spurs.

[cd021]

SJAX sucked worse. :lol

He was better, much better than this.

[Spurs9]

We need to get rid of Manu and Tiago, Tiago is terrible

[TheGoldStandard]

Yep. Even Leonard missed some point blank shots. Weak....

Leonard gets a pass tonight, he's had to work his ass off on defense.

[Skull-1]

Leonard gets a pass tonight, he's had to work his ass off on defense.

True. Great player. Hope we can get a ring for him...

[SouthTexasRancher]

Pretty sad watching Manu these days. He still has the heart but, his body is no longer able to play at this level. Personally I hope he retires and doesn't hang on thinking he can reinvent his glory days. He has ALWAYS given us fans and his teammate 120% but, no matter how much he wants to he just cannot do that any longer. Retire Manu and let us hang your jersey in the rafters with all the other Spurs greats who have played for our Spurs. You have given us a lifetime of great memories and there is no need to worry about giving us more because you have given us fans everything you had. ou are a winner through and through. It is time now to go be with your family. Raise those kids of yours and keep em safe. They have a dad they can be very, very proud of. :toast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TMp_pNU1PeM&feature=endscreen (mhtml:{F683A420-596B-46BD-BDB9-C77CCEB1BEB2}mid://00000569/!x-usc:http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TMp_pNU1PeM&feature=endscreen)

[Keepin' it real]

No one has mentioned a possible injury. Could he be hurt? I almost think he has to be because the precipitous plunge in his level of play is surreal. Father Time is a mean bastard, but I doubt he has it in for Ginobili this badly.

[TD 21]

Did anyone else hear his post game comments? Won't even own the performance or say that he has to be better, in attack mode, etc., instead claiming, to paraphrase, that he moved the ball well and that he played the same way in game 3 and they won by 36.

It's not just that, it's the tone; dispirited, burnt out from talking to the media and in general, like he'd rather be doing something else. What the hell happened to this guy?

[timvp]

I'm not ready to toss dirt on him. Wade looked done the first three games and look what happened tonight.

Give Manu more isolations, get him out of pick-and-rolls, demand that he attacks early and often, and I think he'll bounce back in Game 5.

[Budkin]

Not giving up on the guy until the series is over... he's a warrior and always has been.

[DJR210]

Thank you. Been saying this for a while now. Where's Nono to post Manu's PER and squash all this bullshit..

[Emeyin]

Definitely a sad thing. But I'm still hoping he'll come through one last time.

[Yuixafun]

It's been said many times

his turnovers and his long missed threes

hurt even worse because that feeds miami's offense

and shifts momentum

I don't want to see him do anything but get the defense moving and making accurate passes or drives to the rim

anything else is self destruction

[Shaolin-Style]

I still believe in him. I'm always sad to see him play poorly, but I know he gives it his all and I hope his best is on display for the rest of this series.

[TheGoldStandard]

He can contribute if given the correct role and that's going to be on Pop to step in and make the adjustment. Have a sit down with him and discuss options, things to look for. There needs to be more ball movement when he is in the game running point. Too much ISO at the top of the key which goes into pick n roll and that's about it. The only time the ball moves is when he hands off to Neal or Joseph, the ball rotates to find him and he's behind the 3 point line taking a crappy contested 3.

I might even start him game 5.. Duncan, Kawhi, Green, Gino Parker just to see if they can get him some baskets.

[Sean Cagney]

Definitely a sad thing. But I'm still hoping he'll come through one last time.

JUST ONE LAST TIME! JUST ONE LAST DAMN TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rascal]

Tiago is charmin soft.

Word is out, anyone can block a Tiago shot.

[FkLA]

Pretty sad watching Manu these days. He still has the heart but, his body is no longer able to play at this level. Personally I hope he retires and doesn't hang on thinking he can reinvent his glory days. He has ALWAYS given us fans and his teammate 120% but, no matter how much he wants to he just cannot do that any longer. Retire Manu and let us hang your jersey in the rafters with all the other Spurs greats who have played for our Spurs. You have given us a lifetime of great memories and there is no need to worry about giving us more because you have given us fans everything you had. ou are a winner through and through. It is time now to go be with your family. Raise those kids of yours and keep em safe. They have a dad they can be very, very proud of. :toast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TMp_pNU1PeM&feature=endscreen (mhtml:{F683A420-596B-46BD-BDB9-C77CCEB1BEB2}mid://00000569/!x-usc:http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TMp_pNU1PeM&feature=endscreen)



:cry

[jermaine]

Not giving up on the guy until the series is over... he's a warrior and always has been.

Maan I feel the same way. But it hurts watching him right now. Tiago hurts even worse cus he's right at the basket an can't finish. Manu pawsing can still be on point. But he's not trying to attack the rim. But it's time to take Dwade off the cross an put Manu on it.

[coachmac87]

The problem with Manu is he can't turn the corner when they trap the PnR..which forces him to pass..and when they don't trap they go under forcing Manu to shoot the 3. Which he has done but just hasn't made em. Manus biggest flaw in his game is he doesn't have a mid range game. So it's either him shooting the 3, getting to the hole or make the pass...only way Manu had a good game is if he starts hitting the 3 ball. People are frustrated with his shot selection but these days it's all really he can do

[ManuGinobiliArg]

Pop said, without Manu no ring


Manu is very rare, and I do not trust you and your physique does not allow you to play as before.


parker also think that the style of play that has at age 36 can not do what he does now is hit much.


I think also that clung Manu much of his new role on the team as second base instead of continuing with their style of play, I change a lot and I think it should return the Manu of the conference finals last year against ockahoma.


regards

[bus driver]

manu is done.......sucking

Believe!!!


:flag:
:ihit
:flag:

[vander]

he can probably still be a spot up shooter for the spurs for a couple more years. but I really really don't understand how people can think he's worth much more than the vet minimum for the next 2 years.

[SenorSpur]

As much as I hate to admit it, it certainly appears that Manu is done. He's played a lot of basketball in his career, taken a lot of punishment and has had a lot of injuries. It certainly seems as though this should be his last year. After these woeful performances, I can't see how he could conceivably want to play a couple more years.

[Gervin44Silas13]

Manu has got to go.....

Look at his fucking stats....really Manu 7.5 PPG in the Finals????
I swear to God if you play better for Argentina...your a fucking scrub....you better tell your wife and kids your hitting the gym the next two days and work on your fucking skills...bald headed fuck!!!


Playoffs
Team
G
GS
MPG
FG%
3p%
FT%
OFF
DEF
RPG
APG
SPG
BPG
TO
PF
PPG


First Round
SAS
4
0
19.5
0.467
0.500
0.714
0.0
3.0
3.0
4.8
1.8
0.5
2.0
1.0
11.3


Conf. Semifinals
SAS
6
0
29.7
0.342
0.275
0.650
0.7
4.3
5.0
6.3
1.7
0.3
2.5
2.2
12.7


Conf. Finals
SAS
4
0
26.3
0.407
0.286
0.778
1.0
4.3
5.3
4.5
0.5
0.5
2.5
3.0
10.0


Finals
SAS
4
0
24.3
0.345
0.188
0.700
0.0
1.5
1.5
3.0
0.8
0.0
1.8
2.8
7.5


Playoff Averages
SAS
18
0
25.4
0.377
0.298
0.710
0.4
3.4
3.8
4.8
1.2
0.3
2.2
2.2
10.6

[emanueldavidginobili]

They have to run less pick and rolls with him its not working he's not attacking the pg he picks up his dribble and.does a jump pass need more isolations...the last 3 games he's shot 6, 7 and 5 shots..come on Manu we neeeed you two more games!!!! We can't win a championship with him playing like this.

[dbestpro]

All good things come to an end. There just comes a time in everyone's life when its time to move on. Even if ....................., Manu shoud move on. Other than sentimental reasons, he just will not be worth the salary he commands.

[Darius Bieber]

Manu can't even dribble up the floor anymore.. What happened?

[ElNono]

Thank you. Been saying this for a while now. Where's Nono to post Manu's PER and squash all this bullshit..

PER: 16.6

[Bill_Brasky]

Manu is not 100% and i don't give a fuck what anyone says. This dude did not go from classic Manu last May to this in one calendar year.

Doesn't help that our faggot bigs have never heard of DUNKING the ball over smaller defenders. If we could finish pick and rolls with dunks instead of soft bullshit maybe Miami will struggle with Manu a little more.

[Capt Bringdown]

The step-back 3 isn't working. The wild passes aren't working.
He'd do us all a favor if he dialed back the hero ball.

[rjv]

the bad thing is that not only is manu not helping us, he is actually a detriment when he is out there. if he does not take the vet minimum next year he has to go. we need the cap space for player to surround the emerging players and TP with

[rjv]

Not giving up on the guy until the series is over... he's a warrior and always has been.

and then there is part of me that wants to feel this way

[kobexxx]

Somebody needs to set peaks for Manu to get him going. Right now he’s being asked to do it by himself, while Green and Neal shoots more than supposed to…

[JRHernandez88]

LMAO WTF is this shit. First this guy creates a thread all dramatic about "he's coming" and "believe" and all this bullshit and then this. Typical lame ass spurstalk fans. I'm glad ya'll gave up on em' cause he's about to shut ya'll all the fuck up.


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[JRHernandez88]

Not giving up on the guy until the series is over... he's a warrior and always has been.
Thank you Sir :toast


I don't care how many plays he screws up or how many times he misses, when it's "that" time i need that man in the game, period.

[Lonestar]

Manu is my boy but he has been a huge detriment in this series and the most of the playoffs for that matter. I'm sure you can deal with his play during the regular season but he doesn't appear to be able to contribute in the playoffs.

[Horse]

Not for nothing but wade looked done before last night. Now I don't expect Manu to score 30 but he can still have big moments like big shot bob.

[Knoxxx]

Word is out, anyone can block a Tiago shot.

Well the one excellent replay I saw of Tiago getting stripped under the basket was a BLATANT arm hack by Wade. Any time the ref is in doubt about an arm slap when a big gets a nice feed under the basket, they should call the foul. A reach in and/or hack are the most basic of foul calls that the Heat get away with all too often.

[Knoxxx]

I don't know WTF is up with Manu's shot. Also notable was a team wide "lazy pass" syndrome that killed us on turnovers.

[crc21209]

I'm not ready to toss dirt on him. Wade looked done the first three games and look what happened tonight.

Give Manu more isolations, get him out of pick-and-rolls, demand that he attacks early and often, and I think he'll bounce back in Game 5.

This. The whole series he looks like he's trying to do too much all at one time. He needs to take a deep breath, settle down, and the game will come to him.

[crc21209]

In Game 3 he actually looked OK and had a couple cuts to the basket that ended up in dunks. He needs to stop settling for those stupid step back 3's that are way off. It's time for him to start taking it to the basket everytime and try and draw fouls or finish plays at the rim.

[rmt]

Manu has got to go.....

Look at his fucking stats....really Manu 7.5 PPG in the Finals????
I swear to God if you play better for Argentina...your a fucking scrub....you better tell your wife and kids your hitting the gym the next two days and work on your fucking skills...bald headed fuck!!!


Playoffs
Team
G
GS
MPG
FG%
3p%
FT%
OFF
DEF
RPG
APG
SPG
BPG
TO
PF
PPG


First Round
SAS
4
0
19.5
0.467
0.500
0.714
0.0
3.0
3.0
4.8
1.8
0.5
2.0
1.0
11.3


Conf. Semifinals
SAS
6
0
29.7
0.342
0.275
0.650
0.7
4.3
5.0
6.3
1.7
0.3
2.5
2.2
12.7


Conf. Finals
SAS
4
0
26.3
0.407
0.286
0.778
1.0
4.3
5.3
4.5
0.5
0.5
2.5
3.0
10.0


Finals
SAS
4
0
24.3
0.345
0.188
0.700
0.0
1.5
1.5
3.0
0.8
0.0
1.8
2.8
7.5


Playoff Averages
SAS
18
0
25.4
0.377
0.298
0.710
0.4
3.4
3.8
4.8
1.2
0.3
2.2
2.2
10.6






The assists, rebounds, FG% and 3pt% are atrocious. I'm not ready to give up on Manu yet. C'mon, time to redeem yourself. 2 more wins.

[Oh, Gee!!]

He's not 100%. I don't think he ever will be again. Credit him for what he's done for the spurs, but those days are over sadly.

[tesseractive]

I'm not ready to toss dirt on him. Wade looked done the first three games and look what happened tonight.

Give Manu more isolations, get him out of pick-and-rolls, demand that he attacks early and often, and I think he'll bounce back in Game 5.
I think the Wade analogy is pretty solid. I could definitely see us getting one more "Classic Manu" game out of him this postseason.

[SenorSpur]

Well the one excellent replay I saw of Tiago getting stripped under the basket was a BLATANT arm hack by Wade. Any time the ref is in doubt about an arm slap when a big gets a nice feed under the basket, they should call the foul. A reach in and/or hack are the most basic of foul calls that the Heat get away with all too often.

Totally agree. However rather than leave it up to the eyes of the official, Tiago should learn to get the ball high over his head quickly, then he wouldn't get stripped so often.

[spurtech09]

bet manu is still better than anyone in this thread lol

[spurtech09]

Well the one excellent replay I saw of Tiago getting stripped under the basket was a BLATANT arm hack by Wade. Any time the ref is in doubt about an arm slap when a big gets a nice feed under the basket, they should call the foul. A reach in and/or hack are the most basic of foul calls that the Heat get away with all too often.saw that....heat got away with the bs calls...like bosh hitting the ball out of bounds and refs still gave the ball back to the heat....little things like that also helped the heat...bunch of bs...I hope the spurs put another beat down on Miami....

[kobexxx]

you can hope anytime.. thats not reality though.. game over my friend.. Spurs has been exposed

[superjames1992]

Manu was doing a lot of little things like rebounding, distributing the ball, and racking up assists prior to the Finals. Though he wasn't shooting well, he was still contributing positively.

Now, he's still shooting like shit and he also is not assisting and rebounding like he once was. Of course, you can blame Miami's amazing pick-and-roll defense for some of it, but the bottom line is that he just isn't producing.

We better hope he comes around in game five, but I won't hold my breath.

[spurtech09]

Manu was doing a lot of little things like rebounding, distributing the ball, and racking up assists prior to the Finals. Though he wasn't shooting well, he was still contributing positively.

Now, he's still shooting like shit and he also is not assisting and rebounding like he once was. Of course, you can blame Miami's amazing pick-and-roll defense for some of it, but the bottom line is that he just isn't producing.

We better hope he comes around in game five, but I won't hold my breath.manu doesn't have to score a lot of points for the spurs to win.....spurs have Kl and players like danny green to make up for that.....manu just needs a couple of threes and his passing ...

[2centsworth]

''He's having a tough playoffs, and hasn't really found a rhythm or found his game yet,'' Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said Friday. ''I think that he's obviously not as confident as usual, and he knows full well he hasn't performed the way he would like and the way he's used to. But it's simplistic to say, 'What are we going to do to get him going?'''

[ElNono]

Q. I wanted to ask you about Manu and just kind of get your assessment on what you've been able to do to slow him down. He struggled a lot in the playoffs, long before you guys were facing him in the playoffs. What are you seeing out of him as a player? Does it still feel like he's the guy that at some point he's going to pop and be the player he has been for so many years?

COACH ERIK SPOELSTRA: I don't know if we're doing anything. In Game 3 he made every trigger pass for them that embarrassed us. And he was in the middle of all those plays that either led to points in the paint or three‑point shooting. Even though the statline may not be what everybody wanted, he had a tremendous impact. And sometimes it's just make or miss, to be quite frank.

[DJR210]

PER: 16.6

:lol

[benefactor]

One game and then this? Retire.