Sony PlayStatioon 4

[MannyIsGod]

Played around with the SHAREfactory app on PS4 last night for the first time with a bunch of my BF4 clips. Holy shit I had fun.

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[baseline bum]

I still can't picture going with either of these consoles over PC next generation. The thing that switched me over to consoles in the X360/PS3 generation was the shitty quality of PC ports of sports games, but that won't be an issue now that all the consoles are PCs.

So much for that :lol

My PS4 was worth getting just for Bloodborne. And then The Last of Us and the Uncharted series were amazing too. Hopefully Horizon Zero Dawn lives up to the hype. The reviews should drop tomorrow.

[Reck]

So much for that :lol

My PS4 was worth getting just for Bloodborne. And then The Last of Us and the Uncharted series were amazing too. Hopefully Horizon Zero Dawn lives up to the hype. The reviews should drop tomorrow.

Mein nigga. :toast

[baseline bum]

Mein nigga. :toast

Dude Bloodborne with the DLC is $17.49 today on the Playstation Store. You gotta get that shit if you haven't played it. Sale is over after today.

[Reck]

Dude Bloodborne with the DLC is $17.49 today on the Playstation Store. You gotta get that shit if you haven't played it. Sale is over after today.

I dont know man. Hardcore games like that scare me.

That's why I haven't even thought of getting any of the Dark Souls.

[apalisoc_9]

Bloodborne is not for the average gamer, imo. Can get really frustrating for first time players.

[baseline bum]

Bloodborne is not for the average gamer, imo. Can get really frustrating for first time players.

Only the first stage of it lives up to that really hard reputation. Otherwise the game gets easier until you do the DLC or the optional chalice dungeons. Those both get pretty difficult.

[baseline bum]

I dont know man. Hardcore games like that scare me.

That's why I haven't even thought of getting any of the Dark Souls.

It's not any harder than NES games man. You're really missing out if you're scared of this game. Especially for $17.49. That's less than I paid for some used PS3 games I picked up.

[apalisoc_9]

It's not harder than NES contra thats for sure. :lol

Did I even finish stage 2 on contra :lol

Was way too young tl remeber.

[baseline bum]

It's not harder than NES contra thats for sure. :lol

Did I even finish stage 2 on contra :lol

Was way too young tl remeber.

Contra is definitely something I'd call a hardcore game. Bloodborne is almost like Mike Tyson's Punchout on the NES, where you have to learn from your losses to enemies. But there is nothing in Bloodborne anywhere close to as difficult as beating Tyson. Nothing whatsoever in that ballpark. Hell, there is nothing in Bloodborne as hard as beating Super Macho Man, even in the boss battles in depth 5 Chalice Dungeons (which are easily the hardest parts of Bloodborne).

[Xevious]

Contra is definitely something I'd call a hardcore game. Bloodborne is almost like Mike Tyson's Punchout on the NES, where you have to learn from your losses to enemies. But there is nothing in Bloodborne anywhere close to as difficult as beating Tyson. Nothing whatsoever in that ballpark. Hell, there is nothing in Bloodborne as hard as beating Super Macho Man, even in the boss battles in depth 5 Chalice Dungeons (which are easily the hardest parts of Bloodborne).
Punch Out (most NES games really) was all memorization. I played that game so much I could beat it without getting hit once except for that one asshole you'd have to block his special attack instead of dodging.

Ghosts n Goblins goes up as one of the hardest games I've ever played. Most enemies flew at you from off screen and you only got hit twice before dying. Again, memorization though.

[baseline bum]

Punch Out (most NES games really) was all memorization. I played that game so much I could beat it without getting hit once except for that one asshole you'd have to block his special attack instead of dodging.

Ghosts n Goblins goes up as one of the hardest games I've ever played. Most enemies flew at you from off screen and you only got hit twice before dying. Again, memorization though.

Yeah, but I have seen people massacre Orphan of Kos naked and using their fists in Bloodborne too. Ghosts n Goblins felt cheap to me.

[Reck]

It's not any harder than NES games man. You're really missing out if you're scared of this game. Especially for $17.49. That's less than I paid for some used PS3 games I picked up.

BTW I also have The Witcher 3 on deck. I bought it a couple of weeks ago and haven't even started it. I installed it and that's about it.

That's probably going to take me half a year to finish. :lol

[baseline bum]

BTW I also have The Witcher 3 on deck. I bought it a couple of weeks ago and haven't even started it. I installed it and that's about it.

That's probably going to take me half a year to finish. :lol

Get Bloodborne and put it on deck man. Also did you see Shadow of Mordor and Infamous Second Son are on the PS Store for $8 tonight? Sale ends tomorrow morning.

[Reck]

Get Bloodborne and put it on deck man. Also did you see Shadow of Mordor and Infamous Second Son are on the PS Store for $8 tonight? Sale ends tomorrow morning.

I got Shadow of Mordor already. Bought it when it first came out.

I'm probably going to raid the PS store and buy a bunch of indie games instead. I haven't bought The Walking Dead season 3 so if its on speciall I'll get that.

[Reck]

Just saw The King's Quest for 11 dollars so I'll get that shit.

I'm addicted to episodic games. LOL

[Xevious]

Just saw The King's Quest for 11 dollars so I'll get that shit.

I'm addicted to episodic games. LOL

Did you play the Game of Thrones one? Any good?

[Reck]

Did you play the Game of Thrones one? Any good?

I did. It was pretty decent.

Not only are certain characters key players in it, they also lent their voices too.

Out of all of the telltale games, I feel the choices you make really matter. I got must of the playable character killed. LOL

It will be interesting to see how that works out for when they release season 2.

[spurraider21]

does anybody have experience game sharing with their ps4.

was just talkin to my little cousin yesterday, didnt realize he had a ps4. he was talkin to me about the ability to do some shenanigans and switch out the primary account on the ps4's so that i can get access to his digital game downloads and vice versa.

it seems pretty straightforward, but wana know if u guys know if it works or there are any issues i need to be concerned about. my impression is:

1 - i log into his PSN account on my station, and through the settings, make my console the primary for his account. he does the exact same thing on his console at home. logs onto my account, sets his device is the primary for my account
2 - he then gets access to all my digital purchases and downloads them locally to his own console. i do the same with all his downloads
3 - we then log back into our own accounts (but keep MY console as HIS account primary and vice versa), and we each have access to all the games
4 - if i'm not mistaken, only downside to having HIS account set as primary on MY console is that in the event internet connection is lost (or PSN servers are down and i get disconnected from the store), then i'm locked out of MY own digital purchases. im not too worried about that

only consideration is he has PS Plus and I don't. duno if that has any ramifications

[baseline bum]

does anybody have experience game sharing with their ps4.

was just talkin to my little cousin yesterday, didnt realize he had a ps4. he was talkin to me about the ability to do some shenanigans and switch out the primary account on the ps4's so that i can get access to his digital game downloads and vice versa.

it seems pretty straightforward, but wana know if u guys know if it works or there are any issues i need to be concerned about. my impression is:

1 - i log into his PSN account on my station, and through the settings, make my console the primary for his account. he does the exact same thing on his console at home. logs onto my account, sets his device is the primary for my account
2 - he then gets access to all my digital purchases and downloads them locally to his own console. i do the same with all his downloads
3 - we then log back into our own accounts (but keep MY console as HIS account primary and vice versa), and we each have access to all the games
4 - if i'm not mistaken, only downside to having HIS account set as primary on MY console is that in the event internet connection is lost (or PSN servers are down and i get disconnected from the store), then i'm locked out of MY own digital purchases. im not too worried about that

only consideration is he has PS Plus and I don't. duno if that has any ramifications

Digital game sharing can get your account banned if it's with someone outside your house. If you want to share games buy physical and then lend the discs to each other.

[spurraider21]

Digital game sharing can get your account banned if it's with someone outside your house. If you want to share games buy physical and then lend the discs to each other.
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[spurraider21]

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[spurraider21]

i think the crux is not sharing account info, as in username/password

[baseline bum]

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I stand corrected. I saw people complaining of getting banned over game sharing on the PS4 reddit and that seemed to be the consensus, that Sony didn't want to see game sharing from two different locations. Still sounds like too much of a pain in the ass though, especially when PS4 games are cheap.

[spurraider21]

yeah its not that big a deal tbh... we have a few disks we were gonna share anyway... gonna lend him spiderman, red dead and horizon (when im done with those)... he's got fallout 4 and bloodborne, and prob a ton more.

it seems you really run into trouble when sharing account info... such that if i physically log into my account so i can play at his house, and vice versa, there's no real issue, that's compatible with their terms. the gray area might be the primary account thing.

its just somethin he mentioned yesterday, and i figured there was no way sony would support it, but i did a bit of reading up on the process today, most everywhere said as long as you're not giving away account info there's no real issue. like people who swap account info with others on reddit, etc

[spurraider21]

inb4 "well as long as you're getting bloodborne, go ahead"

[baseline bum]

inb4 "well as long as you're getting bloodborne, go ahead"

Get the DLC

[baseline bum]

Man this thread is sad to go back and read because of the Steam Box hype. Not that I wanted one of those little pieces of shit but damn I was looking forward to seeing Linux became a legit gaming OS. Now instead I'm going to have to install Windows 10 soon to get DX12 support for Shadow of the Tomb Raider (game performs like absolute shit in DX11). Oh well, at least I can pirate Forza and Gears 4 once I do.

[spurraider21]

Man this thread is sad to go back and read because of the Steam Box hype. Not that I wanted one of those little pieces of shit but damn I was looking forward to seeing Linux became a legit gaming OS. Now instead I'm going to have to install Windows 10 soon to get DX12 support for Shadow of the Tomb Raider (game performs like absolute shit in DX11). Oh well, at least I can pirate Forza and Gears 4 once I do.
this thread is sad because symple has some posts

[baseline bum]

this thread is sad because symple has some posts

Damn don't tell me symple died or something

[spurraider21]

Damn don't tell me symple died or something
no activity here in 2+ years now

[baseline bum]

John Linneman from Digital Foundry claims PS5 will absolutely have PS4 BC.

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DF is a great source. They're the ones Microsoft gave early access to the XBox One X a few months before it launched.

[spurraider21]

John Linneman from Digital Foundry claims PS5 will absolutely have PS4 BC.

1090946857046589440

DF is a great source. They're the ones Microsoft gave early access to the XBox One X a few months before it launched.
great. im gonna have to buy a ps5, aren't i...

i buy a console for the first time in a decade and of course now... NOW sony decides backwards compatibility is good

[baseline bum]

great. im gonna have to buy a ps5, aren't i...

i buy a console for the first time in a decade and of course now... NOW sony decides backwards compatibility is good

Just buy PS5 when it's cheap. Not like you're going to run out of great PS4 games to play jumping on the system this late in its lifetime.

[Xevious]

Yeah, no point in buying a console when it's first released and all it has is a small library of $60 games.

[spurraider21]

Just buy PS5 when it's cheap. Not like you're going to run out of great PS4 games to play jumping on the system this late in its lifetime.


Yeah, no point in buying a console when it's first released and all it has is a small library of $60 games.
true true

i'm just butthurt because at the time i bought my ps3, they were no longer backwards compatible, and i had a pretty good ps2 library that i was annoyed to have to set aside (or go through the hassle of switching systems). and same story with the ps4, forcing me to hang on to my mammoth sized ps3 in the meantime :lol..

it would just be nice to be able to dump my old consoles instead of having them take up space

[baseline bum]

true true

i'm just butthurt because at the time i bought my ps3, they were no longer backwards compatible, and i had a pretty good ps2 library that i was annoyed to have to set aside (or go through the hassle of switching systems). and same story with the ps4, forcing me to hang on to my mammoth sized ps3 in the meantime :lol..

it would just be nice to be able to dump my old consoles instead of having them take up space

The BC PS3 were terrible tbh. They consumed a ridiculous amount of power for a console, we're talking like 330 watts in heavy gaming loads. They had terrible failure rates because of that high power consumption. Nothing like the original XBox 360 Xenons that had a RROD rate of something like 60% or so within the first few years (I had a RROD on four different systems before MS finally sent me an Opus board 360 that has been good since 2009) but there aren't a lot of CECHA01 (BC 60GB) or CECHB01 (BC 20GB) out there today. I think PS3 Slim got gaming load down to around 130 to 145 watts.

PS2 had PS1 BC because the PS2 used the PS1's cpu as a sound chip, so you got emulation for free. PS3 didn't use the PS2's cpu/gpu for jack shit other than PS2 games and Sony was losing their asses on the PS3, so it's understandable they had to cut the PS2 hardware out to save costs. Sony was losing something like $250 on every PS3 sold for $600 back in 2006. PS3 BC never happened in PS4 because they used wildly different processors and the PS4 cpu was pretty piss poor even by 2013 standards when it launched. Which makes PS4 BC in the PS5 seem like it should be pretty easy to achieve. The PS5 cpu is rumored to be some kind of AMD Ryzen chip like you'd see in midrange gaming PCs today while the PS4 cpu is a dogshit mobile chip but of the same x86_64 architecture.

Buying the Slims is a great way to get a more refined version of the console that on average should also be more reliable, since Slim versions always correspond to node shrinks to the cpu/gpu. Those node shrinks make them consume a lot less power and make the chips much cheaper to produce, so you get big discounts from a company like Sony that wants to get consoles sold to as many people as possible even if it means taking a loss on each hardware sale since they get a sweet 30% cut of every game sale.

[spurraider21]

The BC PS3 were terrible tbh. They consumed a ridiculous amount of power for a console, we're talking like 330 watts in heavy gaming loads. They had terrible failure rates because of that high power consumption. Nothing like the original XBox 360 Xenons that had a RROD rate of something like 60% or so within the first few years (I had a RROD on four different systems before MS finally sent me an Opus board 360 that has been good since 2009) but there aren't a lot of CECHA01 (BC 60GB) or CECHB01 (BC 20GB) out there today. I think PS3 Slim got gaming load down to around 130 to 145 watts.

PS2 had PS1 BC because the PS2 used the PS1's cpu as a sound chip, so you got emulation for free. PS3 didn't use the PS2's cpu/gpu for jack shit other than PS2 games and Sony was losing their asses on the PS3, so it's understandable they had to cut the PS2 hardware out to save costs. Sony was losing something like $250 on every PS3 sold for $600 back in 2006. PS3 BC never happened in PS4 because they used wildly different processors and the PS4 cpu was pretty piss poor even by 2013 standards when it launched. Which makes PS4 BC in the PS5 seem like it should be pretty easy to achieve. The PS5 cpu is rumored to be some kind of AMD Ryzen chip like you'd see in midrange gaming PCs today while the PS4 cpu is a dogshit mobile chip but of the same x86_64 architecture.

Buying the Slims is a great way to get a more refined version of the console that on average should also be more reliable, since Slim versions always correspond to node shrinks to the cpu/gpu. Those node shrinks make them consume a lot less power and make the chips much cheaper to produce, so you get big discounts from a company like Sony that wants to get consoles sold to as many people as possible even if it means taking a loss on each hardware sale since they get a sweet 30% cut of every game sale.
damn, thanks for the breakdown. im not knowledgeable on this stuff at all.

i still envied my friends with the BC ps3's, but only one of mine had his console fail. i've never had an xbox console, but yeah, RROD was absurdly common. i'm still shocked that consumer confidence wasn't hurt more than it was.

and yeah i remember hearing about how much money sony was losing on ps3 sales, but iirc they didnt care so much because they had skin in the blu-ray game too, and xbox was using HD DVD. people were buying ps3's just as blu ray players, as it cost about the same if not less than a pure blu ray player at the time

[baseline bum]

i still envied by friends with the BC ps3's, but only one of mine had his console fail. i've never had an xbox console, but yeah, RROD was absurdly common. i'm still shocked that consumer confidence wasn't hurt more than it was.


Microsoft extended their warranties out to three years for RROD. Plus console failures weren't that surprising a thing years ago. For instance, every single NES other than the top loader released in the 1990s would get games stuck on blue screens and resetting after a couple of years of use. The reason was because they designed the system so that you'd have to push the game cartridges down like a VCR tape when you inserted them into the NES, which bent the pins on the cartridge connector. Anything but a perfect connection and the lockout chip (used to prevent unlicensed games from running) would freak out and reset the system. It's funny the only reason Nintendo put such a horrible design into the NES was to make it look not like a game console, since retailers would not stock them after the video game crash of 1983. So they tried to make it look like a hybrid toy/vcr. Then PS2 had pretty high failure rates too thanks to the lasers in the drives going bad. There would be such consumer revolt today if either of those happened in the social media / youtube era.

[diego]

Man this thread is sad to go back and read because of the Steam Box hype. Not that I wanted one of those little pieces of shit but damn I was looking forward to seeing Linux became a legit gaming OS. Now instead I'm going to have to install Windows 10 soon to get DX12 support for Shadow of the Tomb Raider (game performs like absolute shit in DX11). Oh well, at least I can pirate Forza and Gears 4 once I do.

Ehh I know you're big into performance and frame rate, but I won't leave 7 till my hardware explodes. Sotr ran fine at 1080p on a 1060 3gb (and old ass sandy bridge i7), aside from the audio cutting out occasionally which I understand is a port issue, not performance. I'd much much much rather dropped frames here and there than losing control over my OS.

When my hardware finally explodes I pray Linux will have matured enough ...

[koriwhat]

Man this thread is sad to go back and read because of the Steam Box hype. Not that I wanted one of those little pieces of shit but damn I was looking forward to seeing Linux became a legit gaming OS. Now instead I'm going to have to install Windows 10 soon to get DX12 support for Shadow of the Tomb Raider (game performs like absolute shit in DX11). Oh well, at least I can pirate Forza and Gears 4 once I do.

i've been waiting for that for damn near 20 yrs back when the streaming linux console was about to get "produced" but it was all bs. :(

[spurraider21]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-ps4-humble-bundle-gets-you-tons-of-games-for-v/1100-6464673/
baseline bum Reck apalisoc_9

thoughts?

[baseline bum]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-ps4-humble-bundle-gets-you-tons-of-games-for-v/1100-6464673/
baseline bum Reck apalisoc_9

thoughts?

Do you really want all those games? Grim Fandango was a pretty cool game in the 90s so getting that for a dollar might be nice but otherwise that bundle is not really top of the line for indie games. When I think of the great indies games to come out this decade I think Firewatch, Monster Boy, Dead Cells (I know I scoffed it earlier but now that I have played it I'm very impressed), Journey, What Remains of Edith Finch, Braid, etc. Wasteland 2 looks somewhat interesting since it's by the original Fallout team, but if you're looking for great turn based RPG for cheap why not just get the real thing with Fallout 1 & 2 on GOG when they go on sale for $3 each? Any Windows computer from this century should run them.

[apalisoc_9]

None of those games are great games. Decent but not great.

Wouldnt buy it. If you dont mind used. Ill just buy used and buy games to make up for the difference

[baseline bum]

None of those games are great games. Decent but not great.

Wouldnt buy it

Agreed. These days with how cheap PS4 and PC games are it's hard not to have a backlog of nothing but amazing games, so no reason to buy big bundles of ok to good games.

[spurraider21]

yeah i hadnt heard of any of those games tbh :lol but a friend of mine sent me the link. figured i'd check with the ST contingent. i'm in no rush to buy anything, have enough of a backlog likely to last through next black friday sales tbh, and i already have a decently long list of games i plan to get around that time.

[baseline bum]

yeah i hadnt heard of any of those games tbh :lol but a friend of mine sent me the link

It's like the Lakers Godfather Deal of game sales.

[spurraider21]

It's like the Lakers Godfather Deal of game sales.
:lmao

[apalisoc_9]

Hearing ps5 is gonna be backwards compatible

[Xevious]

Hearing ps5 is gonna be backwards compatible

John Linneman from Digital Foundry claims PS5 will absolutely have PS4 BC.

1090946857046589440

DF is a great source. They're the ones Microsoft gave early access to the XBox One X a few months before it launched.

[apalisoc_9]

Intresting. Got it from neogf. No reason for it not to be Backwards compstibke.