ElNono is the man.

[midnightpulp]

He said, "Manu needs to be more aggressive next game."

We all laughed at him.

He said, "Manu being forced to play PG and be a distributor takes him out of his natural role a 2 guard and affects his scoring prowess."

We told him to stop making excuses for Manu's poor play and accept the fact he's done.


Boy, were we wrong.



What a fucking call, Nono.

[ElNono]

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[TrainOfThought5]

*Slow clap*

[Killakobe81]

He said, "Manu needs to be more aggressive next game."

We all laughed at him.

He said, "Manu being forced to play PG and be a distributor takes him out of his natural role a 2 guard and affects his scoring prowess."

We told him to stop making excuses for Manu's poor play and accept the fact he's done.


Boy, were we wrong.



What a fucking call, Nono.

El was right about everything EXCEPT ....

"Manu was OK" last game ...

[AchillesHeel]

Manu plays like a TOSB but you know he'll show up at least for one game of the series.

[HI-FI]

yeah yeah, i've already given that wop his props. he's a top 10 poster, and his childlike faith in Manu has paid off. I still think he is wrong to say Manu was playing OK, but clearly Pop saw that Manu needs to be off the ball so he can create great situations for himself or others. happy for Manu and Nono, but we still need to win this series.

[LarryDavid]

El Know Know tbh

[midnightpulp]

Only worry going forward is that Manu hasn't had a good road playoff game since the Bush administration, but in any event, even if he shits himself these next two games, he did his job and got the Spurs two extra chances to deliver the knockout blow.

All you can ask from a 35 year old.

[whitemamba]

well no shit manu needs to be more aggressive. nice call

[ElNono]

Up to TD/TP to deliver the ship now... we already won one on the road this series... gotta put the pressure on them early in Game 6 and hope they shit their pants, tbh

[Thebesteva]

well no shit manu needs to be more aggressive. nice call

LOL seriously...I also called that the Spurs should probably score more points than Miami to win the game.

[ElNono]

tbh, I had a good run this year... the .500 thread, correctly predicting the Spurs-Lakers sweep, won a sig bet to DMC, this shit... it only brings more pressure to be better next season, tbh

[HI-FI]

tbh, I had a good run this year... the .500 thread, correctly predicting the Spurs-Lakers sweep, won a sig bet to DMC, this shit... it only brings more pressure to be better next season, tbh

it's all good, Spurs never repeat anyways.

[midnightpulp]

well no shit manu needs to be more aggressive. nice call

Actually it wasn't a "no brainer" call that Manu should be more aggressive, since everyone thought he lost his scoring ability (shooting 30% for the series before tonight's game) and that him being more aggressive would be a detriment. Why give more shots to a player in that kind of scoring slump?

The key adjustment was getting Manu back into his natural position.

[whitemamba]

Actually it wasn't a "no brainer" call that Manu should be more aggressive, since everyone thought he lost his scoring ability (shooting 30% for the series before tonight's game) and that him being more aggressive would be a detriment. Why give more shots to a player in that kind of scoring slump?

The key adjustment was getting Manu back into his natural position.

Popovich said it himself, the spurs are a much better team when manu is manu. Aggressive, attacks the paint, makes plays for others. its a slump your right, but these guys are pro's they get paid to do what they do best, if anything popovich should get more criticism for not doing this earlier, thats probably a big confidence booster for ginobli, and a much needed one.

[Rogue]

Despite playing mainly as a SG tonight, dude got more assists than any past game of this series. I think when you play to your strength, everything will turn out to be better which doesn't only include points, but also assists, steals and efficiency. playing more aggressively doesn't only earn himself extra paints, it also reduces the pressure on his teammates so they can score more easily. That's probably the best way for a born-to-be scorer to collect assists imho

[DMC]

LOL seriously...I also called that the Spurs should probably score more points than Miami to win the game.

I called that you would still be a horribly unfunny faggot.

[DMC]

tbh, I had a good run this year... the .500 thread, correctly predicting the Spurs-Lakers sweep, won a sig bet to DMC, this shit... it only brings more pressure to be better next season, tbh

All that cannot happen without the help of a higher power.

[ElNono]

All that cannot happen without the help of a higher power.

lol verde

sometimes it's better to be lucky than good, tbh

[Robz4000]

He's PotY for a reason tbqh.

[DAF86]

Only worry going forward is that Manu hasn't had a good road playoff game since the Bush administration, but in any event, even if he shits himself these next two games, he did his job and got the Spurs two extra chances to deliver the knockout blow.

All you can ask from a 35 year old.

21 pts, 4 rbds, 3 assts, 2 blks, 3stls in game 4 in Golden State and 19 pts 7 rbds, 5 assts, 1 stl in Memphis in game 4.

[Thebesteva]

I called that you would still be a horribly unfunny faggot.


Your wife doesn't seem to mind cuckold

[whitemamba]

Your wife doesn't seem to mind cuckold

no fucking way hes married tbh

[FkLA]

Not sure it had to do with aggressiveness imo, hes taken plenty of the same 'bad' shots in the playoffs that fell today.

Seems like he took it personal and gave everything he had today. Really hope Im wrong, but I dont think he can consistently play like this whether hes aggressive or not. One more performance like that should do it though, thats all we need and he can play like shit all next season if he wants.

[midnightpulp]

21 pts, 4 rbds, 3 assts, 2 blks, 3stls in game 4 in Golden State and 19 pts 7 rbds, 5 assts, 1 stl in Memphis in game 4.

I was being somewhat snarky.

[DAF86]

I was being somewhat snarky.

I know, I just couldn't help myself :D

[DAF86]

Not sure it had to do with aggressiveness imo, hes taken plenty of the same 'bad' shots in the playoffs that fell today.

Seems like he took it personal and gave everything he had today. Really hope Im wrong, but I dont think he can consistently play like this whether hes aggressive or not. One more performance like that should do it though, thats all we need and he can play like shit all next season if he wants.

Disagreed tbh. I can't remember one bad step back three on this game (besides the first shot but that was 'cause the shot clock was running down) and he attacked the basket A LOT more than in previous games.

[TrainOfThought5]

tbh, I had a good run this year... the .500 thread, correctly predicting the Spurs-Lakers sweep, won a sig bet to DMC, this shit... it only brings more pressure to be better next season, tbh

LOL make love to the pressure.

[Thebesteva]

no fucking way hes married tbh

He says his wife is a volvo driver

[Splits]

I laughed at ElNono for saying Manu needed to shoot more after game 4. Damn was I wrong.

[FkLA]

Disagreed tbh. I can't remember one bad step back three on this game (besides the first shot but that was 'cause the shot clock was running down) and he attacked the basket A LOT more than in previous games.

They werent as stupid as the stepback threes but alot were stilll tough shots imo, even some of the drives. Not sure he can make some of those shots consistently like he used ot be able to. Hope Im wrong though...I love Manu just as much as you Argies tbh.

[DAF86]

They werent as stupid as the stepback threes but alot were stilll tough shots imo, even some of the drives. Not sure he can make some of those shots consistently like he used ot be able to. Hope Im wrong though...I love Manu just as much as you Argies tbh.

I prefer him to attempt tough shots going to the rim than throwing up weak three pts attempts that have no chance of going in.

[InK]

Yes that thread of his was full of insightful information as..


He isn't playing 'passive'. He's playing the role Pop gave him. That's a role that doesn't allow him to drive to the rack, or take open shots..

[ElNono]

^ another poster that didn't read the OP, tbh :lol

[Killakobe81]

But El, my nig keep it 100% ...
After seeing what Manu did this game ...was last game still OK? I get he was put in a better position to succeed, but he could of done SOME of what he did this one ...

I will say that Manu said EXACTLY what you said about it being difficult to create with the way Heat play pnr ...
But TimVP was also calling for the Spurs to get away from it ...even with Tony.

[ElNono]

But El, my nig keep it 100% ...
After seeing what Manu did this game ...was last game still OK? I get he was put in a better position to succeed, but he could of done SOME of what he did this one ...

I will say that Manu said EXACTLY what you said about it being difficult to create with the way Heat play pnr ...
But TimVP was also calling for the Spurs to get away from it ...even with Tony.

Ginobili 2 days ago:

"They have almost two people guarding the ball handler and they make the guy that plays the pick and roll not to have lines to the basket or open shots. We have to move the ball."

Like I've been saying, this wasn't going to change unless Manu played more off the ball, and they stopped with the high PnR... as mid put it on the OP, that's exactly what happened.

Now Manu might not score 20+ pts in another game, but it's obvious he's much more comfortable playing like that against THIS team.

His last game was ok, IMO... would've been a very different game if Splitter finishes what Manu created. Today's game was obviously phenomenal. Hope he has another one or two of these from here on out.

[ElNono]

Don't sleep on the fact we shot lights out tonight, tbh... when Manu is playing facilitator, his 'value' is much more dependent on other players making shots...

[Killakobe81]

Ginobili 2 days ago:

"They have almost two people guarding the ball handler and they make the guy that plays the pick and roll not to have lines to the basket or open shots. We have to move the ball."

Like I've been saying, this wasn't going to change unless Manu played more off the ball, and they stopped with the high PnR... as mid put it on the OP, that's exactly what happened.

Now Manu might not score 20+ pts in another game, but it's obvious he's much more comfortable playing like that against THIS team.

His last game was ok, IMO... would've been a very different game if Splitter finishes what Manu created. Today's game was obviously phenomenal. Hope he has another one or two of these from here on out.

Like I said your bball acumen was solid. You called for teh appropriate adjustments and lucky for Spur fans Pop saw it too .. (LOL)
But I just think your analysis or grades of his performance was far too generous ...

[ElNono]

Like I said your bball acumen was solid. You called for teh appropriate adjustments and lucky for Spur fans Pop saw it too .. (LOL)
But I just think your analysis or grades of his performance was far too generous ...

Killa, you're a well versed basketball poster, and you analyze and understand the game. It's much easier for me to explain to you why certain plays are more or less favorable for certain players.

You also pick up on the little things, being a coach and all. At some point this season Manu's role changed from the scorer to the creator. It's never been about 'his numbers', but more about his teammates numbers, in his 2nd unit role.

But some people here don't have your bball knowledge, so it was expected to hear the usual "he just needs to drive" and "he needs to stop shooting"...

It just wasn't going to happen if he kept doing what Pop has instructed him to do all season long: run the high pick and roll with Splitter. He did that well, but it just wasn't conducive to this kind of production.

Sure, we all want tonight's Manu. But it's largely dependent on Pop putting him in this position to do this stuff. Last game, Pop wanted him to create and he did. Teammates couldn't finish. Manu gets the blame.

I thought Pop did an adjustment that was obvious, much like Spo did with Miller. Now Miller is 0-7 since he's been starting, so we'll see what Spo does.

[Reck]

Nono, DAF amd myself are the only posters who are constantly staying positive about Manu.

Everyone else wants to either suck his dick (when he wins us a game) and demand trades when he loses us games.

[lefty]

He said, "Manu needs to be more aggressive next game."

We all laughed at him.

He said, "Manu being forced to play PG and be a distributor takes him out of his natural role a 2 guard and affects his scoring prowess."

We told him to stop making excuses for Manu's poor play and accept the fact he's done.


Boy, were we wrong.



What a fucking call, Nono.
Yes you were wrong

[InK]

^ another poster that didn't read the OP, tbh :lol

I did read that thread of yours however, and i must say it was very reminiscent of some of ducks finer work. He covers the blind hate, and u the blind love.

[ElNono]

I did read that thread of yours however, and i must say it was very reminiscent of some of ducks finer work. He covers the blind hate, and u the blind love.

There was only one guy spot on in that thread, tbh...

Your plate of crow is waiting for you over there ---->

[Rogue]

Manu is still a solid squad player and the Spurs are lucky enough that they have good depth and enough youngsters coming up so that they don't need to count on him every night. even when Manu has a bad game, they can still manage to win.

[100%duncan]

I'm sad that you didn't know what Manu needed to do midnightpulp.

Pretty much everyone knew what was needed.

[Killakobe81]

Killa, you're a well versed basketball poster, and you analyze and understand the game. It's much easier for me to explain to you why certain plays are more or less favorable for certain players.

You also pick up on the little things, being a coach and all. At some point this season Manu's role changed from the scorer to the creator. It's never been about 'his numbers', but more about his teammates numbers, in his 2nd unit role.

But some people here don't have your bball knowledge, so it was expected to hear the usual "he just needs to drive" and "he needs to stop shooting"...

It just wasn't going to happen if he kept doing what Pop has instructed him to do all season long: run the high pick and roll with Splitter. He did that well, but it just wasn't conducive to this kind of production.

Sure, we all want tonight's Manu. But it's largely dependent on Pop putting him in this position to do this stuff. Last game, Pop wanted him to create and he did. Teammates couldn't finish. Manu gets the blame.

I thought Pop did an adjustment that was obvious, much like Spo did with Miller. Now Miller is 0-7 since he's been starting, so we'll see what Spo does.

Well, El Pop saw what oyu saw made his adjustment and it paid off big time. Im curious to see if:

1. Spo makes some type of adjustment to limit Manu. Ginoboli mentioned post game (w chuck, Rick Fox etc) that he was trying to attack "the seams" because of the pressure placed on the point guard, so we will see if Heat adjust their attack.

2. If they do adjust their pressure can Manu still be efective? Doubt he duplicates this effort but if he can get 16 and 6 that would be huge.

3. Spo will also need his players to stay attached to Green which should open up some more driving space for Tony and post feeds to Timmy. I thought spurs did a much better job working post touches for Duncan this game, taking advantage of the "hedges" that Heat are starting to make to prevent open 3's.