View Full Version : Why do the Spurs never get called for fouls?
Asif Ali Zardari
06-17-2013, 12:12 PM
They are always one of the last teams in fouls and they have the least fouls per game in the playoffs this year.
it has always been the case. They had Bowen the hacking machine and Duncan gets away with murder but they never call fouls against them:lmao. Suns and Mavs fans can back me up but Laker fans already know the truth.
Whats the secret for not getting called for hacks?
They are always one of the last teams in fouls and they have the least fouls per game in the playoffs this year.
it has always been the case. They had Bowen the hacking machine and Duncan gets away with murder but they never call fouls against them:lmao. Suns and Mavs fans can back me up but Laker fans already know the truth.
Whats the secret for not getting called for hacks?
The problem is, you have your head up your ass and you miss a lot of what happens.
End of thread.
Frank Dux
06-17-2013, 12:15 PM
League wants Spurs to win. Period.
Asif Ali Zardari
06-17-2013, 12:18 PM
The problem is, you have your head up your ass and you miss a lot of what happens.
End of thread.
What do the Spurs magically do to avoid getting fouls called on them every season?
Joyrider
06-17-2013, 12:18 PM
Soon to be:
Duncan - 5
Kobe - 5
Wildcat67
06-17-2013, 12:20 PM
What do the Spurs magically do to avoid getting fouls called on them every season?
Not foul.
ElNono
06-17-2013, 12:22 PM
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Maddog
06-17-2013, 12:24 PM
What do the Spurs magically do to avoid getting fouls called on them every season?
Actually this is a decent question for the non Spurs fan
Pop
He is insistent on not fouling. Constantly yelling at players move your feet, don't reach. This is something the Spurs emphasize and have for a long time. Also hostoricaly have not gone for steals.
Bruce in his prime did very little outright hacking. Moved his feet great.
dbestpro
06-17-2013, 12:24 PM
Not foul.
This. Next question?
TJastal
06-17-2013, 12:24 PM
My lakers stink, I'm gonna drink! :cry
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jstep13
06-17-2013, 12:29 PM
why u deserve?
LakerHater
06-17-2013, 12:29 PM
They will in games 6
FromWayDowntown
06-17-2013, 12:30 PM
It's because the NBA hype machine loves the Spurs. Nobody is better for ratings than the Spurs and nothing is better for business than more Spurs games every year.
This is simple.
Horse
06-17-2013, 12:36 PM
They are always one of the last teams in fouls and they have the least fouls per game in the playoffs this year.
it has always been the case. They had Bowen the hacking machine and Duncan gets away with murder but they never call fouls against them:lmao. Suns and Mavs fans can back me up but Laker fans already know the truth.
Whats the secret for not getting called for hacks?
Jesus how many times has Parker played two great games in series against the lakers, only to have phil "bitch" jackson complain at the press conference, then all the sudden Tony is getting hammered and not getting calls so he stop trying to get to the basket. Laker fans have zero room to talk about refs.
Whisky Dog
06-17-2013, 12:38 PM
How many times do you see Spurs players hacking at the ball vs the 100% of the time lebron and wade/entire heat team hack at the ball when it's in the paint. The heat almost never get called even though they have to be hitting arm at least 40-60% of the time.
The Spurs get called on bullshit travels and violations that other teams don't get called on. They had 18 turnovers but probably 6-7 of them were bullshit offensive fouls and travels on Diaw and the travel on Parker that is a move wade and lebron do every possession.
Jenks
06-17-2013, 12:41 PM
After all the Sprite and Gatorade commercials for Duncan and Ginobili, the league has to push them in whatever way they can to appease their massive national fanbase. The calls:endorsement ratio formula can be complex so I'm not going to post it here, but David Stern knows what he's doing and giving the Spurs extra help is in the best interest of the league. He says things like he wishes it could be a Lakers vs Lakers finals every year as pure misdirection.
Asif Ali Zardari
06-17-2013, 12:51 PM
Bruce in his prime did very little outright hacking. Moved his feet great.
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
mrjap2x
06-17-2013, 12:51 PM
David Stern loves the Spurs.
Spursmania
06-17-2013, 01:02 PM
Gtfo
maverick1948
06-17-2013, 01:43 PM
Dude the Spurs have been the least fouling team in the league for years. Pop plays a disciplined defense that require help from other players. No need to reach up, just force the man with the ball to the baseline and get help from the bigs. It has worked for years and will continue to work as long as we have DISCIPLINE and good bigs.
Darius Bieber
06-17-2013, 01:47 PM
:wakeup
TampaDude
06-17-2013, 01:53 PM
Dude the Spurs have been the least fouling team in the league for years. Pop plays a disciplined defense that require help from other players. No need to reach up, just force the man with the ball to the baseline and get help from the bigs. It has worked for years and will continue to work as long as we have DISCIPLINE and good bigs.
^ this
YoMamaIsCallin
06-17-2013, 03:05 PM
It's a little deeper than "not fouling". The Spurs explicitly teach and value not making it easy for NBA refs to call fouls. Do you see the difference?
The more a player moves his feet and body and stays upright vs. reaching sideways, the fewer fouls will be called. The more a player tries to tip the ball rather than slap down on it, the fewer fouls will be called. The more a player stays on the ground, the fewer fouls will be called.
Here's another example: the last time Tim Duncan played for Team USA, he was consistently being in foul trouble or even fouling out. That is because what he had been trained to do for many years was considered fouling by international refs. Duncan swore he'd never play in that tournament again, which was probably the right thing for him to do.
Any spurs player who fails to move his feet on defense, and/or fails to keep both arms in the air to show that he is not hacking or reaching in fouling does not stay on the team very long.
Lots of players can't/won't play for the Spurs because they are unwilling to buy into the defensive philosophy that the Spurs maintain. They want to practice and play offense but don't want to put the time into developing the skills required on the defensive end of the court. They don't last as Spurs, or they don't come in the first place.
In short, the Spurs don't get called for as many fouls as some other teams do because they work at not fouling while they are defending.
But they will be called for a million fouls in Game 6. Book it.
N0 LyF3 ScRuB
06-17-2013, 03:38 PM
Am I delusional for thinking the Heat are getting a lot of bullshit calls?
unforeseen
06-17-2013, 03:55 PM
Same thread as downstairs.
Darkwaters
06-17-2013, 03:58 PM
Obvious troll is obvious
TrainOfThought5
06-17-2013, 04:01 PM
Am I delusional for thinking the Heat are getting a lot of bullshit calls?
Yes. we hold the FT advantage and the 50/50 calls have been surprisingly even.
The problem is, you have your head up your ass and you miss a lot of what happens.
End of thread.
What do the Spurs magically do to avoid getting fouls called on them every season?
Okay, I know you just want to bitch, but I'll give you a serious basketball answer anyway.
First - For years, the Spurs played at or near the slowest pace in the league. Since a large portion of fouls happen as shots are taking place, fewer possessions = fewer fouls overall.
Second - If you took a moment to look at the whole picture, you would have seen that even though the Spurs tend to be near the bottom for number of fouls committed... so do their opponents. Yes, that's also because of the pace of the games.
Now - when you were doing all your research, did you happen to notice which was the least penalized team in the league LAST season? The Lakers.
And the year before that? The Lakers were tied as the least penalized team in the league.
And the year before that? The Lakers were tied as the third least penalized, just a smidgen out of first.
The year before that, the Spurs were tied as the least penalized team in the league. But guess what? They actually got called for more fouls than their opponents did. That's right... the REAL least penalized team in the league that year was whoever the Spurs were playing.
You see, what really matters is the difference between how many fouls get called against your team vs. how many get called against their opponents. So even in 07-08, when the Spurs were tied as the least penalized team in the league, and the Lakers were right in the middle, it was the Lakers who enjoyed a larger foul differential. Laker opponents got called for 2.0 more fouls per game, while the Spurs opponents only drew 1.2 more fouls per game. In fact, you have to go back to the 2006-2007 season to reach a year where the Spurs foul differential was better than the Lakers. But don't go back to 05-06, because once again that season, the Spurs were whistled for more fouls than their opponents.
THAT is the reason I said you keep your head up your ass. Because it's true.
Splits
06-18-2013, 03:25 AM
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:lmao
exstatic
06-18-2013, 07:07 AM
Small market conspiracy.
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