Battle of the Bands

[Avante]

Round one

Janis Joplin with Big Brother and the Holding Company vs Elvis Costello
The Sex Pistols vs Blue Oyster Cult
Motley Crue vs BeeGees
Radiohead vs Nirvana
Steve Miller Band vs Dire Straits
The Clash vs Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
AC/DC vs David Bowie
Jeff Beck vs Cream
Billy Joel vs The Red Hot Chillie Peppers
Leon Russell vs Black Sabbath
The Ramones vs The Moody Blues
Talking Heads vs Robin Trower
Van Halen vs Steppenwolf
Velvet Underground vs Joe Cocker
Tom Betty and the Heartbreakers vs Stevie Ray Vaughn and Double Trouble
The Band vs Jethro Tull
Country Joe and the Fish vs Iron Butterfly
Grand Funk Railroad vs Vanilla Fudge
Traffic vs Them
Simon & Garfunkel vs Iggy Pop and the Stooges

The winners will move on to face

Bob Dylan
The Allman Brothers
CCR
Crosby, Stills & Nash
The Eagles
Pink Floyd
Lynyrd Synyrd
The Beatles
Led Zeppelin
The Rolling Stones
Aerosmith
Elton John
Metallica
The Doors
The Animals
The Who
The Grateful Dead
Jimi Hendrix
Fleetwood Mac
Neil Young


Anyone that needs to be there instead of..?

[ChumpDumper]

Hey one black dude!

That list is all inclusive.

[Avante]

Then we'll go to....

Charles Brown vs Nat King Cole
Little Richard vs Buddy Holly
Sam Cooke vs Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs
The Olympics vs Rosie and the Originals
Big Joe Turner vs The Drifters
Richie Valens vs Jerry Lee Lewis
The Platters vs Hank Ballard
The Shirelles vs Bill Haley and the Comets
Wilbert Harrison vs Ernie K. Doe
Wynonie Harris vs The Silouettes
Buddy Knox vs Chuck Berry
Bo Diddley vs The Everly Brothers
Fats Domino vs Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers
Little Willie John vs Martha and the Vandellas
Brook Benton vs Ben E. King
Jody Reynolds vs Jack Scott

Hell. why not....

Roy Clark vs Buck Owens
Roy Acuff vs Hank Williams
Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys vs Porter Wagoner
Merle Haggard vs George Strait
George Jones vs Garth Brooks
Conway Twitty vs Patsy Cline
Alan Jackson vs David Allan Coe
Brooks & Dunn vs Loretta Lynn
Tmmy Wynette vs Sonny James
Hawksaw Hawkins vs Cowboy Copus
Ernest Tubb vs Jim Reeves
David Houston vs Johnny Cash
Waylon Jennings vs Lefty Frizzell
Willie Nelson vs Hank Snow
Toby Keith vs Tim McGraw
Dwight Yokum vs Charley Pride

Hmmm?

Chris Isaak vs Steve Earle
Bruce Springsteen vs John Mellencamp
Kris Kristofferson vs Harry Nilsen
Ryan Adams vs Ben Harper
Harry Manx vs Tony Joe White
Norah Jones vs Leonard Cohen
Donovan vs Marc Cohn
Lucinda Williams vs Maria Muldaur
Bonnie Raitt vs Delbert McClinton
Derek Trucks vs Everlast
The White Strips vs The Black Keys
Link Wray vs Ray Lamontagne
Ry Cooder vs John Hiatt
JJ Cale vs John Mayall
Jack Johnson vs Amos Lee
Johnny "Slim" Campbel vs Jerry Jeff Walker
Townes Van Zandt vs Calvin Russell
Ramblin' Jack Elliott vs Jimmy Gilmore
Slaid Cleaves vs Mark Collie
Damien Rice vs Jonny Lang
Kenny Wayne Shepard vs Tony McPhee
Dr. John vs Papa Mali
Chris Thomas King vs James McMurtry

[TDMVPDPOY]

wtf is queen on the list?

[leemajors]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212883&highlight=battle+of+the+bands

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194464&highlight=battle+of+the+bands

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217344&highlight=battle+of+the+bands

[ohmwrecker]

You literally have nothing better to do, do you?

[Spur-Addict]

AC/DC? LOL Come on.

[CitizenDwayne]

What are the Sex Pistols, Clash and Ramones doing on there? I thought you couldn't stand such noisy trash.

[clambake]

ELO vs milli vanilli

[mrsmaalox]

ELO vs milli vanilli

Oh puhleeze! Everyone knows ELO takes this one

[ohmwrecker]

Round one

Janis Joplin with Big Brother and the Holding Company vs Elvis Costello
The Sex Pistols vs Blue Oyster Cult = tie (initial impact vs. long, mostly boring career)
Motley Crue vs BeeGees (the Crue's 1st lp is a punk/pop/metal masterpiece, but the brothers Gibb longevity and quality wins out)
Radiohead vs Nirvana = tie (too tough to call)
Steve Miller Band vs Dire Straits (vey close though)
The Clash vs Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention (I respect Zappa, but his music does nothing for me)
AC/DC vs David Bowie (very slight edge)
Jeff Beck vs Cream (Jeff Beck is a better guitarist than Clapton, but Cream was a great band)
Billy Joel vs The Red Hot Chillie Peppers (only because I hate RHCP)
Leon Russell vs Black Sabbath
The Ramones vs The Moody Blues
Talking Heads vs Robin Trower
Van Halen vs Steppenwolf
Velvet Underground vs Joe Cocker
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers vs Stevie Ray Vaughn and Double Trouble
The Band vs Jethro Tull
Country Joe and the Fish vs Iron Butterfly = tie (because . . . who cares?)
Grand Funk Railroad vs Vanilla Fudge = tie (same reason)
Traffic vs Them
Simon & Garfunkel vs Iggy Pop and the Stooges

There. I played your little game. Now, you can tell me I suck because my preferences are different than yours.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I don't even have time to read that list, how the hell do you have the bandwidth to compose so many lists?? Serious question.

[Avante]

wtf is queen on the list?

You're right, who do they replace?

[Avante]

You literally have nothing better to do, do you?

That took about five minutes.

[Avante]

What are the Sex Pistols, Clash and Ramones doing on there? I thought you couldn't stand such noisy trash.

I'm curious to see how far those bands can go in this.

[Avante]

There. I played your little game. Now, you can tell me I suck because my preferences are different than yours.

Come on man do you really think I'm not aware of the fact we all have our on unique personalities and likes and dislikes?

[Avante]

I don't even have time to read that list, how the hell do you have the bandwidth to compose so many lists?? Serious question.

You don't have what two minutes to spare?

I don't know, so far so good on my strange attraction to lists. They just illustrate a point in dramatic fashion.

[ohmwrecker]

Come on man do you really think I'm not aware of the fact we all have our on unique personalities and likes and dislikes?

Everything you've ever said completely and totally contradicts that statement.

[Avante]

Everything you've ever said completely and totally contradicts that statement.

You really think I think I live in a world where everyone shares my opinions? It's the curiousty as to why somebody can totally disagree with you when you both are knowledgeable about the same thing. I find that interesting.

[ohmwrecker]

I don't know what kind of world you live in. All I know is that anytime someone disagrees with you, you resort to insults and condescension. You haven't ever shown any respect. Why should I believe you now?

[Avante]

I don't know what kind of world you live in. All I know is that anytime someone disagrees with you, you resort to insults and condescension. You haven't ever shown any respect. Why should I believe you now?

In case you haven't noticed I'm not the one who starts with the bullshit. I simply threat others the way they treat me. Be cool and it will be cool.

[ohmwrecker]

In case you haven't noticed I'm not the one who starts with the bullshit. I simply threat others the way they treat me. Be cool and it will be cool.

That's bullshit. You don't control anything here. It's this kind of attitude that gets you in trouble.

Do you think I'm going to "be cool" because you've asked me to? Get a grip on yourself. I'll call it like i see it, homeslice.

[Avante]

That's bullshit. You don't control anything here. It's this kind of attitude that gets you in trouble.

Do you think I'm going to "be cool" because you've asked me to? Get a grip on yourself. I'll call it like i see it, homeslice.

Look at yourself guy, you're not here to have nice polite conversations and we both know it so cool your bullshit.

[ohmwrecker]

Look at yourself guy, you're not here to have nice polite conversations and we both know it so cool your bullshit.

I'm game. If you can drop the ridiculous superiority complex.

I answered your question with honest, informed answers and it made no difference. Look at yourself, guy . . . so full of shit.

[Avante]

I'm game. If you can drop the ridiculous superiority complex.

I answered your question with honest, informed answers and it made no difference. Look at yourself, guy . . . so full of shit.

You're game pertaining to what?

[ohmwrecker]

You're game pertaining to what?

Having a polite, mutually respectful conversation. I just doubt that's going to happen with you.

[Avante]

Having a polite, mutually respectful conversation. I just doubt that's going to happen with you.

Ok here goes...

I use music as a drug, I need a fix. I want the sound to take me somewhere, either fit a mood or put me in a mood. Now if you know of a lot of bands/artists you have a wider variety to choose from when trying to get your fix. You aren't as limited as someone less knowledgeable about music. Which brings me to...The Clash. If I'm back at 19 or so I haven't heard enought stuff to know what's really good...yet. At 30, 40 or 50 it's a whole different deal, now you have heard enought to know what's good. It's not that The Clash are bad, it's that there is just far too much out there that's better. Obviously at 19, you'd not aware of this at 30 etc you are.

I can't think of a mood/situation I could be in where...The Clash..is want I'd need to get my fix. Give me one scenario where...The Clash....would be the way to go.

[ohmwrecker]

I can't think of a situation where I wouldn't listen to the Clash. Obviously, it depends on my mood. If I want to mellow out or take a nap . . . probably won't listen to the Clash. I first heard the Clash when I was about 11 or 12, and it instantly resonated with me. It's rock n' roll. Power chords, cool bass lines, solid backbeat, ballsy vocals right from the gut.

The things they were singing about was foreign to a young boy from Texas. They got me interested in world politics, broadened my horizons. Turned me on to reggae. Turned me on to early hip hop. They were everything to me. I had my first mohawk and first telecaster that same year. I thought Joe Strummer was the coolest motherfucker on the planet. I still love them. It has nothing to do with age. It was never something I wanted to "outgrow".

If anything I outgrew the hokey sixties and seventies lazy, soft rock that you seem to love so much.

[Avante]

As you lnow Strummer was a big fan of Woody Guthrie, who sang about those things you mentioned in the 40's. Tons of old blues talking about racism, murder, social injustice. You sure you listened to music from the 60's? Non political...????

The Clash...did nothing that wasn't done before. They weren't the pioneers of anything. Hell, that old country music telling us about divorce, hard times, da man, can't find a job. You should hear Doc Clayton singing about the war with Japan. Pegleg Howell from 1926...I'll cut yor throat mama, drink your blood like wine. Listen to Victoria Spivey also from 1926 ...Blood Thirsty.

Tons and tons of songs about politcal unrest, violence, hard times, war, murder, ice picks, razors long before The Clash. Listen to Rabbit Brown from 1928....sometimes I think you ought to be buried alive.....James Alley Blues. Rube Lacy in Mississippi Jailhouse Goan, singing about life in prison.

The Clash didn't bring anything to the forefront we hadn't heard before. Nothing unique about them.

DIoKr9VDg3A

The Clash sound like little kids compared to this.


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[ohmwrecker]

Sure. It just wasn't until I heard the Clash that it resonated. I was (and still am) a big Dylan fan so, I was aware of politics in music, but I was pretty young and Dylan's lyrics, especially post-folk, were somewhat cryptic. The Clash was more straight forward and they talked about what was happening in the world beyond western civilization.

Obviously, murder, political injustice, hard times, etc. are long, aged themes in popular music. What else ya gonna sing about besides pussy? However, the Clash brought a different perspective on the whole deal. Most Brittish bands before the Clash were just recycling American blues themes. The Clash were coming from a entirely different perspective politically. And, musically, they were melding rock, soul, reggae, dub . . . they were giving Americans a taste of our own culture as it was happening on the streets by putting the origins of New York hip hop in their music.
The Clash were completely and totally original. It's puzzling that even someone who doesn't like their music could deny their originality.

[Avante]

Sure. It just wasn't until I heard the Clash that it resonated. I was (and still am) a big Dylan fan so, I was aware of politics in music, but I was pretty young and Dylan's lyrics, especially post-folk, were somewhat cryptic. The Clash was more straight forward and they talked about what was happening in the world beyond western civilization.
Obviously, murder, political injustice, hard times, etc. are long, aged themes in popular music. What else ya gonna sing about besides pussy? However, the Clash brought a different perspective on the whole deal. Most Brittish bands before the Clash were just recycling American blues themes. The Clash were coming from a entirely different perspective politically. And, musically, they were melding rock, soul, reggae, dub . . . they were giving Americans a taste of our own culture as it was happening on the streets by putting the origins of New York hip hop in their music.
The Clash were completely and totally original. It's puzzling that even someone who doesn't like their music could deny their originality.

First off I don't need someone blending anything. If I want rock, I listen to rock, reggae.....etc. Dr. John was blending and mixing long before The Clash.

Look at the power here.

WLHWOPqg-iU



All I'm really saying is if you've heard a lot of stuff before The Clash they aren't going to dazzle you with anything, if you're new to music, ok ya have a point. Let's be honest Joe Strummer isn't al that as a vocalist, the musicians aren't among the elite. Their lyrics aren't on a level with a lot of others like Bob Dylan, Kris Kristofferson, Towns Van Zandt, Tom Waits.

Sorry but I've simply heard way too much to get too excited over...The Clash.

[ohmwrecker]

Dude, music is all about blending styles. There would be no rock n' roll if no one blended blues and country. I had heard a lot of stuff before the Clash, I just happened to be at a good age, under the right circumstances that they really resonated for me. The music you hear when you are young sticks with you.

Their lyrics are different than those artists you mentioned. That's what's cool about music. All the different voices. It doesn't make them better or worse. It's dumb to say that the Clash wrote bad lyrics. No one who is qualified to analyze or write about rock lyrics is going to take your side one that one, man. Let's take one of your favorites, for example: Aerosmith . . . are those good lyrics?! In my opinion . . . no. Am I gonna say Aerosmith is worthless because they have bad lyrics? Absolutely not. They have their place.

I don't care if you like the Clash or not. This is why this isn't going to work between us. You don't get that this is all very subjective material. You have to be right. You aren't interested in discourse.

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212883&highlight=battle+of+the+bands

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194464&highlight=battle+of+the+bands

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217344&highlight=battle+of+the+bands
It's funny how he still claims he acted differently as RaZon yet he actually just posted the same shit he does now, tbh....

[Avante]

Dude, music is all about blending styles. There would be no rock n' roll if no one blended blues and country. I had heard a lot of stuff before the Clash, I just happened to be at a good age, under the right circumstances that they really resonated for me. The music you hear when you are young sticks with you.

Their lyrics are different than those artists you mentioned. That's what's cool about music. All the different voices. It doesn't make them better or worse. It's dumb to say that the Clash wrote bad lyrics. No one who is qualified to analyze or write about rock lyrics is going to take your side one that one, man. Let's take one of your favorites, for example: Aerosmith . . . are those good lyrics?! In my opinion . . . no. Am I gonna say Aerosmith is worthless because they have bad lyrics? Absolutely not. They have their place.

I don't care if you like the Clash or not. This is why this isn't going to work between us. You don't get that this is all very subjective material. You have to be right. You aren't interested in discourse.

I was talking about a single band trying to blend a lot of different elements, not a movement.

I'm not an Aerosmith fan.

I have gave them a good listen in the last few days. It's just not there for me, they simply don't have the talent, I can think of tons of better bands.

Sorry man, but I can't share your opinion.

[Avante]

It's funny how he still claims he acted differently as RaZon (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31175) yet he actually just posted the same shit he does now, tbh....

And here you are still all worried about me, why not post your own threads amigo....instead?

[CuckingFunt]

Come on man do you really think I'm not aware of the fact we all have our on unique personalities and likes and dislikes?

I'm pretty sure you're aware that we do. I'm less convinced you think that we should.

[Avante]

I'm pretty sure you're aware that we do. I'm less convinced you think that we should.

I would bet only you and me know who ...The Cat & A Fiddle were. As you know that was Austin Powell, Jimmie Henderson, Ernice Price and Chuck Barksdale. How come only you and me know this? Then there were the Five Breezes who recorded around the same time late 30's/early 40's. I bet even you have ever heard of....Peanut the Kidnapper....right?

My point is this....

Most aren't into the history/origins of it all when it comes to music. They simply don't care. So they are limited, they don't have the depth to really know what's good or bad. When you've heard everyone/everything from The Cat $ A Fiddle to The White Strips you will an opinion based on a far more diverse range of music. You have depth.

All I try to do is widen horizons, share what has taken me 50 years to accumulate. I 've been turned on to...

Calvin Russell
Ray Wylie Hubbard
Tom Waits

.....by internet music lovers so yes it happens.

When somebody tells me they dig The Clash I have to question their musical depth. It is hard for me to see someone who really knows music to say The Clash are on their list of must listen.

[CuckingFunt]

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

[Avante]

Here ya go, something only you and me understand.

SEQ9Sz0UCl8

Peanut the Kidnapper, something only I understand.

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[CuckingFunt]

I would bet only you and me know who ...The Cat & A Fiddle were. As you know that was Austin Powell, Jimmie Henderson, Ernice Price and Chuck Barksdale. How come only you and me know this? Then there were the Five Breezes who recorded around the same time late 30's/early 40's. I bet even you have ever heard of....Peanut the Kidnapper....right?

There is nothing in this comment that suggests you've ever even listened to their music or that you had any idea who The Cats and the Fiddle were before I mentioned them. You may have. You may own several of their recordings. I don't know. But it's not at all evident in your comments because you are utterly and completely incapable of discussing music. You recite the names of musicians over and over in the same manner an elementary school student recites the capitals of our fifty states despite not being able to locate any of them on a map; your recitations are as much a discussion of music as the elementary kid's wrote memorization is a discussion of geography.


When somebody tells me they dig The Clash I have to question their musical depth. It is hard for me to see someone who really knows music to say The Clash are on their list of must listen.

And, for the umpteenth time, "I don't like it. Therefore, it's not good." is not a logical argument. If you make a statement that a particular band is bad and/or untalented, but offer no support for your claim other than the fact you don't like that band, I have to question not only your musical depth, but also your general intelligence.

[Avante]

There is nothing in this comment that suggests you've ever even listened to their music or that you had any idea who The Cats and the Fiddle were before I mentioned them. You may have. You may own several of their recordings. I don't know. But it's not at all evident in your comments because you are utterly and completely incapable of discussing music. You recite the names of musicians over and over in the same manner an elementary school student recites the capitals of our fifty states despite not being able to locate any of them on a map; your recitations are as much a discussion of music as the elementary kid's wrote memorization is a discussion of geography.



And, for the umpteenth time, "I don't like it. Therefore, it's not good." is not a logical argument. If you make a statement that a particular band is bad and/or untalented, but offer no support for your claim other than the fact you don't like that band, I have to question not only your musical depth, but also your general intelligence.

I own...When the Sun Goes Down....a series of CD's dedicated to roots music, I have them there. Just one of a number of box sets zeroing in on roots music. Each with booklets on the music/artists,

What exactly are you looking for? I own over 6000 CD's/records/tapes, tons of books on the subject yet I can't talk music?

Hmmmmm?

How many ways can you say...subpar lyrics, vocals and sound? Is there another way?

Here ya go (I have six of these each with a different theme))

http://www.amazon.com/When-Sun-Goes-Down-Thats/dp/B00006EXLX

[CuckingFunt]

I own...When the Sun Goes Down....a series of CD's dedicated to roots music, I have them there. Just one of a number of box sets zeroing in on roots music. Each with booklets on the music/artists,

What exactly are you looking for? I own over 6000 CD's/records/tapes, tons of books on the subject yet I can't talk music?

Hmmmmm?

How many ways can you say...subpar lyrics, vocals and sound? Is there another way?

Here ya go (I have six of these each with a different theme))

http://www.amazon.com/When-Sun-Goes-Down-Thats/dp/B00006EXLX

Montgomery
Juneau
Phoenix
Little Rock
Sacramento
Denver
Hartford
Dover
Tallahassee
Atlanta
Honolulu
Boise
Springfield
Indianapolis
Des Moines
Topeka
Frankfort
Baton Rouge
Augusta
Annapolis
Boston
Lansing
St. Paul
Jackson
Jefferson City
Helena
Lincoln
Carson City
Concord
Trenton
Santa Fe
Albany
Raleigh
Bismarck
Columbus
Oklahoma City
Salem
Harrisburg
Providence
Columbia
Pierre
Nashville
Austin
Salt Lake City
Montpelier
Richmond
Olympia
Charleston
Madison
Cheyenne

[Avante]

Montgomery
Juneau
Phoenix
Little Rock
Sacramento
Denver
Hartford
Dover
Tallahassee
Atlanta
Honolulu
Boise
Springfield
Indianapolis
Des Moines
Topeka
Frankfort
Baton Rouge
Augusta
Annapolis
Boston
Lansing
St. Paul
Jackson
Jefferson City
Helena
Lincoln
Carson City
Concord
Trenton
Santa Fe
Albany
Raleigh
Bismarck
Columbus
Oklahoma City
Salem
Harrisburg
Providence
Columbia
Pierre
Nashville
Austin
Salt Lake City
Montpelier
Richmond
Olympia
Charleston
Madison
Cheyenne

That like most of your stuff....stupid.

Keep trying to make some big complex ordeal over taking a crap. Explain in depth why you like red. Break down your love for cheese. It's just fucking music it either sounds good or it doesn't.

Let me top your list using prewar bluesmen

Bo Jones
Otto Virgial
King Solomon Hill
Blind Blake
Blind Joe Taggard
Blind Gaary Davis
Blind Teddy Darby
Blind Mamie
Blind Boy Fuller
'Blind Lemon Jefferson
Blind Willie Walker
Blind Wilie Johnson
Geechie Wiley
Bessie Tucker
Ramblin' Thomas
Henry Thomas
Victoria Spivey
Buster Johnson
Tommy Bradley
Nugrape Twins
Elizabeth Johnson
Ma Rainey
Tommy Johnson
Ishman Bracey
Charley Patton
Robert Johnson
Alberta Hunter
Trixie Smith
Gus Cannon
Memphis Jug Band
Jack Kelly
John Hurt
John Estes
Frank Stokes
Pearl Dickson
Furry Lewis
Josh White
Lead Belly
Tony Holins
Big Maceo
Leroy Carr

[CuckingFunt]

It's just fucking music it either sounds good or it doesn't.

Even a casual music historian should be able to explain why it does or does not sound good. Or to discuss what about the music they do or do not like.

You are capable only of mentioning, not explaining.

[Avante]

Even a casual music historian should be able to explain why it does or does not sound good. Or to discuss what about the music they do or do not like.

You are capable only of mentioning, not explaining.

It's real easy, Strummer has a very average voice, the band can't write lyrics on a par with elite bands, very average guitar play and drummer. What else can you say?

See if you can find Joe Strummer, he is there.

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_vocalists.html


Notice the impact The Clash didn't make.

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_songsddd.html

[DJR210]

You literally have nothing better to do, do you?

[Avante]

Stick to.....

Didn't you just open the exact thread a second ago? This is the guy that admits to sucking timvp's dick multiple times daily to get bolded.. GNSF at heart tbh.

It's you.

[ohmwrecker]

Notice the impact The Clash didn't make.

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_songsddd.html

:lol shit list

There are songs on that list that aren't even rock songs. That list was made by someone, like you, who thinks commercial success and record sales are the only qualifier for determining whether or not music is good. The rest are ambivilent, non-commital, "no shit" choices. Everyone likes the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin . . . listing bands like that doesn't pass for an opinion that involves more than an elementary appreciation.

[Avante]

:lol shit list

There are songs on that list that aren't even rock songs. That list was made by someone, like you, who thinks commercial success and record sales are the only qualifier for determining whether or not music is good. The rest are ambivilent, non-commital, "no shit" choices. Everyone likes the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin . . . listing bands like that doesn't pass for an opinion that involves more than an elementary appreciation.

Well I've heard Bukka White growl them blues, Jimmie Rodgers yodell his, Elvis rip off black artists, Hank moan his lonesome songs, every rock band who ever recorded, all that Motown stuff, all those obscure rockabilly cats, Jellyroll/Satchmo/Kid Ory. Early Bob Dylan, Woody, Lead Belly......so I hardly have an...elementary appreciation,...and I liked that list.

[ohmwrecker]

. . . Outkast? Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg? Sugarhill Gang? Madonna? Michael Jackson? Gnarls Barkley? None of those are anywhere close to resembling rock songs and they are listed above London Calling? That list is a joke.

[ohmwrecker]

:lol "Waterfalls" by TLC
:lol Beyonce
:lol aggregated lists

[Jeff Leppard]

Why don't you wankers ever talk about good bands like Bang Tango, Lizzy Borden, Hanoi Rocks, Faster Pussycat . . . you knobs wouldn't know a good tune if it gave you herpes!

[gameFACE]

When somebody tells me they dig The Clash I have to question their musical depth. It is hard for me to see someone who really knows music to say The Clash are on their list of must listen.

So let me get this straight, you question the musical depth of people like Dylan, Neil Young, Joe Ely, Patti Smith & Springsteen (who led the The Clash's R&R HOF tribute performance after their induction)? How about institutions like the R&R HOF and Rolling Stone (love them or hate them aside)?

Instead we should listen to the musical depth of a guy who's "read all the books" and knows how to cut and paste ............. eh, I don't think so

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[The Reckoning]

wait was razon banned? haha

[Avante]

:lol "Waterfalls" by TLC
:lol Beyonce
:lol aggregated lists

Want me to go find another list? How about two/three more saying the same things more or less.

http://www.rock-songs.com/

Find The Clash

http://www.planetrock.com/music/backstage/the-rock-lists/the-greatest-ever-rock-song/

The Clash?

http://hglick.hubpages.com/hub/Top-100-Rock-Songs



Want more? How about another half dozen saying the same thing?

[Avante]

Why don't you wankers ever talk about good bands like Bang Tango, Lizzy Borden, Hanoi Rocks, Faster Pussycat . . . you knobs wouldn't know a good tune if it gave you herpes!

Speaking of herpes you must have herpes of the brain if you think those are great bands.

[Avante]

So let me get this straight, you question the musical depth of people like Dylan, Neil Young, Joe Ely, Patti Smith & Springsteen (who led the The Clash's R&R HOF tribute performance after their induction)? How about institutions like the R&R HOF and Rolling Stone (love them or hate them aside)?

Instead we should listen to the musical depth of a guy who's "read all the books" and knows how to cut and paste ............. eh, I don't think so

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

I've actually heard more music (diverse) than anyone you mentioned.

My song and dance is that there are just a ton of better bands than The Clash.

[ohmwrecker]

Want more?

No. The Clash was on that first list you posted. You can post all the shitty lists you want, but it doesn't mean a thing.

[ohmwrecker]

You know what I want? I want you to explain how "Rapper's Delight" is a better rock song than "London Calling".



















This should be good.

[Jeff Leppard]

Speaking of herpes you must have herpes of the brain if you think those are great bands.

There's no such thing as herpes of the brain, mate. So, joke's on you.

[Avante]

No. The Clash was on that first list you posted. You can post all the shitty lists you want, but it doesn't mean a thing.

I know they are just way back there. Trust me no matter how many lists other than...punk...will have The Clash way back there or not even mentioned. That doesn't send a message?

[Avante]

You know what I want? I want you to explain how "Rapper's Delight" is a better rock song than "London Calling".

I think the real question is how is London Calling a better rock song than those ranked behind it.

As you are seeing most agree with me, The Clash are ok but there are tons of better bands.


















This should be good.

[ohmwrecker]

I know they are just way back there. Trust me no matter how many lists other than...punk...will have The Clash way back there or not even mentioned. That doesn't send a message?

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-artists-of-all-time-19691231/the-clash-20110420

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-beatles-top-spin-magazines-list-of-the-50-greatest-bands-of-all-time-75378722.html

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Euphorium/rolling_spins_uncut_mojo__top_100_albums_of_all_ti me

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-20120531/the-clash-london-calling-20120524

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,698325,00.html

[Avante]

Hahahahaha

Bottom line, it's real obvious The Clash ain't for everyone. For them to totally be ommited from most lists, well...

[ohmwrecker]

:lol most lists

it's a credibility issue with your lists tbh.

[Avante]

:lol most lists

it's a credibility issue with your lists tbh.

Give me what you consider their masterpiece, their number one song and let's see how high we can find that song listed on any list.

Tons and tons of this stuff out there. The Clash making a small impact when compared to others.

[ohmwrecker]

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/the-500-greatest-songs-of-all-time-20110407/the-clash-london-calling-20110517

[gameFACE]

I've actually heard more music (diverse) than anyone you mentioned.

My song and dance is that there are just a ton of better bands than The Clash.

You avoided the question..........


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/the-500-greatest-songs-of-all-time-20110407/the-clash-london-calling-20110517

#15 :fro

[Avante]

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/the-500-greatest-songs-of-all-time-20110407/the-clash-london-calling-20110517

Bottom line is they had one decent album, one decent song. Now compare that to Dylan, Stones, Zeppelin, Beatles, Eagles, etc etc.

[Avante]

You avoided the question..........



#15 :fro

I do doubt it was like you think it was with those legends and The Clash.

[gameFACE]

Still avoided the question.....

[ohmwrecker]

Bottom line is they had one decent album, one decent song. Now compare that to Dylan, Stones, Zeppelin, Beatles, Eagles, etc etc.

Wrong. They did have a short career though. I'll give you that.

[BobaFett1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0-rQ9yetvw

[Avante]

Still avoided the question.....

That's right listen to me.

[Avante]

Wrong. They did have a short career though. I'll give you that.

Take away London Calling and what do we see? How many great albums did the great bands have?

[ChumpDumper]

Ok here goes...

I use music as a drug, I need a fix. I want the sound to take me somewhere, either fit a mood or put me in a mood. Now if you know of a lot of bands/artists you have a wider variety to choose from when trying to get your fix. You aren't as limited as someone less knowledgeable about music. Which brings me to...The Clash. If I'm back at 19 or so I haven't heard enought stuff to know what's really good...yet. At 30, 40 or 50 it's a whole different deal, now you have heard enought to know what's good. It's not that The Clash are bad, it's that there is just far too much out there that's better. Obviously at 19, you'd not aware of this at 30 etc you are.

I can't think of a mood/situation I could be in where...The Clash..is want I'd need to get my fix. Give me one scenario where...The Clash....would be the way to go.Great. Not everyone uses music as a drug, so get over it.

[gameFACE]

That's right listen to me.

"Yard sale" wisdom

[Avante]

"Yard sale" wisdom

Just today...

Arkansas Shorty
Biliken Jones
Slim Barton & Eddie Mapp
Charles "Dad" Nelson
Alice Moore
The Sparks Brothers
Ruth Willis
Stovepipe Johnson
The Nugrape Twins
Otis Harris

.......I think I can hang.

[Avante]

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/the-500-greatest-songs-of-all-time-20110407/the-clash-london-calling-20110517


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090812191832AA0UA4l

[ChumpDumper]

Want more? How about another half dozen saying the same thing?Yes.

Keep posting almanac lists too.

[ohmwrecker]

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090812191832AA0UA4l

Again . . . no credibility.

:lol Bon Jovi

[Jeff Leppard]

What's wrong with Bon Jovi?

[Avante]

Again . . . no credibility.

:lol Bon Jovi

When were you elected the judge?

The really great bands had a ton of great albums and hit records. Take away London Calling and where are The Clash? Seriously think about that.

[johnsmith]

When were you elected the judge?

The really great bands had a ton of great albums and hit records. Take away London Calling and where are The Clash? Seriously think about that.

Can you compare Wu Tang to the hip hop artists of today please?

[ChumpDumper]

When were you elected the judge?When were you?

[leemajors]

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/the-500-greatest-songs-of-all-time-20110407/the-clash-london-calling-20110517

that even explains the song for him!

[Avante]

Can you compare Wu Tang to the hip hop artists of today please?

Ok it's like this....

Punk, rap and hip hop are beneath me. Silly ass music that you out grow. I'm into music that stays with you, music performed by talented artists.

[ohmwrecker]

Take away London Calling and where are The Clash? Seriously think about that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clash_discography

[ohmwrecker]

Punk, rap and hip hop are beneath me. Silly ass music that you out grow. I'm into music that stays with you, music performed by talented artists.

Ok it's like this....

Recycled boring blues rock is beneath me. It's all been done before and better. It's uninspired and easy. It's limited in lyrical content, chord progression and scale. It takes me nowhere I haven't been before. I outgrew that shit a long time ago. I want to hear something unique, innovative . . . something that moves my soul.

[ohmwrecker]

When were you elected the judge?

I don't care what some yahoo on yahoo thinks. Where's the credibility? I provided credible sources.

[Avante]

Ok it's like this....

Recycled boring blues rock is beneath me. It's all been done before and better. It's uninspired and easy. It's limited in lyrical content, chord progression and scale. It takes me nowhere I haven't been before. I outgrew that shit a long time ago. I want to hear something unique, innovative . . . something that moves my soul.

I think we're all like that's why I also listen to a ton of current bands.

But.......we can all go there, hell, just turn on the radio. I sometimes like to go places most have never been. You've never set there nursing a beer, chilling with some candles and incense listening to....Alice Moore singing about going to prison, followered by Bukka White and another of his classic train songs, next up....Henry Spaulding (one record) singin' bout.....Cairo. It's very cool.

Of course this is also.

vXfyDbkINPo

[johnsmith]

Ok it's like this....

Punk, rap and hip hop are beneath me. Silly ass music that you out grow. I'm into music that stays with you, music performed by talented artists.

You're wrong.

[Avante]

You're wrong.

So you punk/rap/hip hop is focusing in on that well adjusted successful 45 year old man with a family?

[ohmwrecker]

I think I can answer that question if you rephrased it so it made sense.

[ChumpDumper]

So you punk/rap/hip hop is focusing in on that well adjusted successful 45 year old man with a family?What does one have to do with the other?

[ohmwrecker]

It's weird that you can't even rap your head around a well adjusted, successful person with a family that also listens to punk and/or hip hop.

[Avante]

It's weird that you can't even rap your head around a well adjusted, successful person with a family that also listens to punk and/or hip hop.

Ya walk into a shit kicker bar, chances are no Iggy Pop. You see a gang of young black dude chillin' with some sounds, chances are no Willie Nelson. This is no different.

[ohmwrecker]

Ya walk into a shit kicker bar, chances are no Iggy Pop. You see a gang of young black dude chillin' with some sounds, chances are no Willie Nelson. This is no different.

Where do you live again?

[ohmwrecker]

What if I told you I knew hundreds of people who are in their forties, well adjusted, successful with a family who also listen to punk and hip hop . . . Is your mind, just like, totally blown by that information?

[ChumpDumper]

Ya walk into a shit kicker bar, chances are no Iggy Pop. You see a gang of young black dude chillin' with some sounds, chances are no Willie Nelson. This is no different.It's completely different, actually.

[Avante]

What if I told you I knew hundreds of people who are in their forties, well adjusted, successful with a family who also listen to punk and hip hop . . . Is your mind, just like, totally blown by that information?

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChumpDumper]

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!Granted, they don't live in Turlock.

[ohmwrecker]

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's true.

[gameFACE]

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ohmwrecker speaks the truth. I still listen. :tu

[ohmwrecker]

ohmwrecker speaks the truth. I still listen. :tu

:tu

[ChumpDumper]

From a major publication that is slightly better known than digitaldreamdoor.com:

TOP 20 WORST BANDS OF ALL TIME

2. Eagles

The all-mighty arbiter of SoCal cool, Jeffrey "The Dude" Lebowski was famously willing to be thrown out of a cab because he hated the fucking Eagles, and you should be too. Soporific Laurel Canyon coke rock whose chief existential lament seems to be "What toppings should I get on my burrito?" the Eagles are the quintessential band for a decade whose favorite barbiturate was the Quaalude. -Jeff Weiss

See also: The Eagles' "Hotel California": Why This Song Sucks

http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2012/02/top_20_worst_bands_ever_complete_list.php?page=19

[TeyshaBlue]

:tu

Butthole Surfers still on my playlist. :tu

[ohmwrecker]

Butthole Surfers still on my playlist. :tu

Were they on Avante's "great Texas artist's" list?

[johnsmith]

So you punk/rap/hip hop is focusing in on that well adjusted successful 45 year old man with a family?

I have no idea what you're asking here.

If you're asking what audience rap is geared towards, I'd say its fairly universal, just like every other genre of music and depends on the listeners tastes....however, you've proven in this thread and many others that your pea brain can wrap itself around the fact that everyone views music differently....I for one think blues is boring as fuck.

If you're asking if well adjusted adult males (and I know you're thinking white males in this instance because you're racist), like rap...well, I'm still a ways off from 45, but I have a family and I'm successful, so, yeah, we do enjoy it.

[leemajors]

Butthole Surfers still on my playlist. :tu

:tu mine too

[CuckingFunt]

Granted, they don't live in Turlock.

Ugh. People in Turlock have to go to Modesto for entertainment and culture. Modesto!

Only thing in Turlock that's worth a damn is my dad's pool.

[gameFACE]

It was kind of fun listening to the Butthole Surfers in the 80's but there were too many goddamn skinheads at their live shows.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

From a major publication that is slightly better known than digitaldreamdoor.com:

TOP 20 WORST BANDS OF ALL TIME

2. Eagles

The all-mighty arbiter of SoCal cool, Jeffrey "The Dude" Lebowski was famously willing to be thrown out of a cab because he hated the fucking Eagles, and you should be too. Soporific Laurel Canyon coke rock whose chief existential lament seems to be "What toppings should I get on my burrito?" the Eagles are the quintessential band for a decade whose favorite barbiturate was the Quaalude. -Jeff Weiss

See also: The Eagles' "Hotel California": Why This Song Sucks

http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2012/02/top_20_worst_bands_ever_complete_list.php?page=19


i'm with the dude, tbh. they do absolutely nothing for me. at all. but i do like walsh.

[Avante]

The Eagles

paste

They are one of the world’s best-selling bands of all time (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists), having sold over 150 million records[3] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-3)—100 million in the U.S. alone—including 42 million copies of Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975) and 32 million copies of Hotel California. They are the fifth-highest-selling music act and highest-selling American band in US history. No American band sold more records than the Eagles during the 1970s.

The Clash wouldn't make a pimple on their ass.

[ChumpDumper]

No link. Sorry, your paste doesn't count. LA Weekly FTW.

[Avante]

Let's be honest, what simply doesn't fit?

Bob Dylan
Pink Floyd
The Beatles
The Clash
Led Zeppelin
The Eagles
The Doors
The Rolling Stones

[ChumpDumper]

You don't fit, because you don't get it.

Ever.

No amount of almanac lists will change that.

[johnsmith]

Bump

[benefactor]

Bump

[johnsmith]

Or this one?