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hater
06-19-2013, 03:35 PM
why are ppl saying it was a collapse? it wasn't. Spurs made 4 out of 6 free throws, which is acceptable. They also defended well. Remember the 2 three pointers came after rebounds. Now you gonna say, they should have rebounded the ball. Yes, but if you watch again, at least 1 of those rebounds it was not because they didn't try, the ball just bounced Miami's way.

what happened game 6 was mostly Heat luck. fluke shots. Won't happen again, just like Warriors game 1 comeback won't happen again. Game 6 was a fluke. Spurs still win it (unless they decide to quit)

or am I missing something? how was it a collapse?

Thebesteva
06-19-2013, 03:36 PM
why are ppl saying it was a collapse? it wasn't. Spurs made 4 out of 6 free throws, which is acceptable. They also defended well. Remember the 2 three pointers came after rebounds. Now you gonna say, they should have rebounded the ball. Yes, but if you watch again, at least 1 of those rebounds it was not because they didn't try, the ball just bounced Miami's way.

what happened game 6 was mostly Heat luck. fluke shots. Won't happen again, just like Warriors game 1 comeback won't happen again. Game 6 was a fluke. Spurs still win it (unless they quit)

or am I missing something? how was it a collapse?

You see when you have a 5 point lead with only seconds left......

Poolboy5623
06-19-2013, 03:37 PM
Up 5, with 20 secs left...chance to be world champions and they didn't finish. call it whatever you'd like, at this pt.

hater
06-19-2013, 03:37 PM
You see when you have a 5 point lead with only seconds left......

and one time TMAC scored 13 points in 35 seconds. shit happens all the time in regular season. Spurs defended well and made most of their FTs

Thebesteva
06-19-2013, 03:38 PM
and one time TMAC scored 13 points in 35 seconds. shit happens all the time in regular season. Spurs defended well and made most of their FTs

I'm not quite sure how you wouldn't define that as a collapse? All they had to do to lose the game was miss some free throws, give up 2 three pointers, take Tim Duncan out of the game, not get the offensive rebound, and not double Ray Allen. They managed to do all that in under 29 seconds.

hater
06-19-2013, 03:40 PM
I'm not quite sure how you wouldn't define that as a collapse? All they had to do to lose the game was miss some free throws, give up 2 three pointers, take Tim Duncan out of the game, not get the offensive rebound, and not double Ray Allen. They managed to do all that in under 29 seconds.

dude, it's not like they defended badly and the 3 pointers came in because of drawn heat plays. They defended the 1st shot well, the Heat had massive luck to not only get the rebound but hit contested shots.

I agree about taking Duncan out and also not fouling at the end but that is on Pop. You can't blame the guys for that. They did well. Not a collapse

SpursFan86
06-19-2013, 03:41 PM
The Heat had a 1.4% chance of coming back to win when they were down 5 with 28 seconds left (according to NBA history).

How is that not a collapse? Giving up a 5 point lead in under half a minute isn't a collapse?

td_tp_manu
06-19-2013, 03:41 PM
It's not a collapse. I'm just mad that Miami got extremely lucky when we deserved it.

Horry Hipcheck
06-19-2013, 03:41 PM
On paper, the Spurs did enough to win and the Heat hit a number of miraculous shots. Although, I don't believe any shot made by Ray Allen is miraculous. The dude is just fucking accurate.

If either Lebron or Allen doesn't make their three pointers, we aren't having this discussion. Then again, if Kawhi makes both of his free throws or if the Spurs snagged just one defensive rebound, we wouldn't either.

Too many little things could have swayed the outcome of this game to realistically call it a collapse. Statistically, the Spurs were OVERWHELMINGLY favored to close this out in the final minute. That's hard to ignore, but so is Parker having a quiet night, Duncan not scoring in the 4th, Green only going 1-7 from the field. All of those things happened and the Spurs still almost took it, on a night when Lebron posted a triple double and the Heat shot lights out from 3.

It's easy to look at what the Spurs didn't do and call it a collapse. I think more reasonably, it was a missed opportunity that was taken/given (depending on your perspective) away at the last possible moment.

r-nice
06-19-2013, 03:42 PM
Enough Game 6 talk, it's all about Game 7.

hater
06-19-2013, 03:42 PM
It's not a collapse. I'm just mad that Miami got extremely lucky when we deserved it.

my thoughts exactly

Oh, Gee!!
06-19-2013, 03:44 PM
give it a name. anything you call it still means a loss for Spurs.

hater
06-19-2013, 03:44 PM
On paper, the Spurs did enough to win and the Heat hit a number of miraculous shots. Although, I don't believe any shot made by Ray Allen is miraculous. The dude is just fucking accurate.

If either Lebron or Allen doesn't make their three pointers, we aren't having this discussion. Then again, if Kawhi makes both of his free throws or if the Spurs snagged just one defensive rebound, we wouldn't either.

Too many little things could have swayed the outcome of this game to realistically call it a collapse. Statistically, the Spurs were OVERWHELMINGLY favored to close this out in the final minute. That's hard to ignore, but so is Parker having a quiet night, Duncan not scoring in the 4th, Green only going 1-7 from the field. All of those things happened and the Spurs still almost took it, on a night when Lebron posted a triple double and the Heat shot lights out from 3.

It's easy to look at what the Spurs didn't do and call it a collapse. I think more reasonably, it was a missed opportunity that was taken/given (depending on your perspective) away at the last possible moment.

:tu

remember for all Parkers fuckups, he's the one that actually put Spurs in position to win it. He hit that crazy 3(also a fluke shot) and the following 2.

it's possible to say we had to business being ahead in the final minute either.

Poolboy5623
06-19-2013, 03:44 PM
damn..i didn't even think about the spurs fouling, in the last 20 sec, up 5... wow, Spurs should be champs today. wtf.

spurraider21
06-19-2013, 03:46 PM
Spurs just playing with their food. Miami = fvcked :lol

Poolboy5623
06-19-2013, 03:46 PM
It's not a collapse. I'm just mad that Miami got extremely lucky when we deserved it.

Had the Spurs not collapsed, Miami has no chance to get lucky..right?

RD2191
06-19-2013, 03:47 PM
It was a choke job for the ages, no way to spin that shit.

TheGreatYacht
06-19-2013, 03:47 PM
why are ppl saying it was a collapse? it wasn't. Spurs made 4 out of 6 free throws, which is acceptable. They also defended well. Remember the 2 three pointers came after rebounds. Now you gonna say, they should have rebounded the ball. Yes, but if you watch again, at least 1 of those rebounds it was not because they didn't try, the ball just bounced Miami's way.

what happened game 6 was mostly Heat luck. fluke shots. Won't happen again, just like Warriors game 1 comeback won't happen again. Game 6 was a fluke. Spurs still win it (unless they decide to quit)

or am I missing something? how was it a collapse?Hater being optimistic? I am utterly shocked.

LakerHater
06-19-2013, 03:49 PM
No, it was a CHOKE!

spurtech09
06-19-2013, 03:51 PM
spurs blew it...plain and simple......spurs still have a chance though...go spurs go

HemisfairArena
06-19-2013, 03:52 PM
This was an epic collapse.

Poolboy5623
06-19-2013, 03:54 PM
This was an epic collapse.
No kidding...they were getting ready for the trophy presentation, for Christ sakes!

slick'81
06-19-2013, 03:56 PM
Can we stop thinking about game 6 lol

easjer
06-19-2013, 03:56 PM
That 4th quarter was kind of a collapse. Started off with 10+ and then that line-up, and lead is down to 5. And inability to score and LeBron being LeBron and the lead is gone. And then we're down. That was a collapse. We should have lost there - it's what the Heat did in games 2 and 4.

But then . . . in the closing, Parker hit that shot. Tied. Manu hit that layup. Lead. Then the fouling and bigger leads. And then. . . then. 28 seconds of hell and OT. And up 3 and then down 1. And then the end.

That last bit wasn't the collapse, but it was the part that hurt the most, because they nearly snatched victory from the snapping (closing, collapsing) jaws of defeat. . . but they didn't when it was in their hands.

However, if they can reframe it and put aside the emotions for a bit and just look at it. It hurts because they nearly did it - when they shouldn't have. They clawed back over and over in that game and nearly had it. A game in which Miami absolutely HAD to win. A game that was just like 2 and 4 - and hell, 5 even for stretch. And they did with their beast disappearing in the second half and their other 2 of the big three no-showing or playing on a mediocre level and their specialists being unable to get free or land the shots when they had the chance. . . They should never have been in the position to win that game after their collapse in the fourth, but they willed themselves there. They defended when they needed to and hit the big shot when 19 others didn't fall.

It didn't work out in the end. Could that have been better? Sure - but so could a whole lot of things throughout the game that might have changed it.

They were right there. If they play with fire in their hearts, they can be right there again.

TheGreatYacht
06-19-2013, 03:57 PM
Pop and Manu don't deserve a championship after doing a terrific choke job last night. Like I said before, I'll watch Game 7 and support the Spurs but I don't have high hopes. If the Spurs win it all, a big IF, then that LOB trophy will be fool's gold to Pop and Manu.

elmanutres
06-19-2013, 03:58 PM
haters optimism intrigues me.

Brazil
06-19-2013, 03:58 PM
Agree and Disagree

There was no collapse but Miami return is no fluke, Lebron (amazing down the stretch) and allen (clutch) is nothing near fluke, they already did that before. Only flukish stuff was Bosh 2 big defensive plays.

MarCowMar
06-19-2013, 03:59 PM
It wasn't a collapse and honestly the lack of mental fortitude on this board is pathetic. Do you all react so childishly to all of life's travails?

Parking ticket? Losing your wallet? Wife won't give you any nookie? Stop being so fucking emo. Sheesh.

HI-FI
06-19-2013, 03:59 PM
hater, how are your computations going? how many quad core CPUs and servers you have analyzing the data?

Poolboy5623
06-19-2013, 04:00 PM
So..game 7..nba finals...Can pop PLEASE stop subbing like its the reg season??? I sure hope so.

ElNono
06-19-2013, 04:05 PM
I just want hater to be right for once... just once... he called Spurs in 7, tbh...

Agloco
06-19-2013, 04:07 PM
I just want hater to be right for once... just once... he called Spurs in 7, tbh...

I'm on the hater bandwagon too....

Budkin
06-19-2013, 04:11 PM
haters optimism intrigues me.

This. hater cheering me up. huh?

hater
06-19-2013, 04:12 PM
hater, how are your computations going? how many quad core CPUs and servers you have analyzing the data?

my servers melted down but not before I was able to get the prediction. Spurs in 7.

hater
06-19-2013, 04:13 PM
I just want hater to be right for once... just once... he called Spurs in 7, tbh...

come on man. need I repeat it again?

I called Spurs in 5 over Lakers. (lakers fell to injuries and quit)

I called Spurs in 6 over Warriors.

I called Spurs in 6 over Grizz. (grizz quit mid game 3)

Spurs in 7.

Disclaimer: My computations dont' account for injuries or teams quitting. I really dont' see spurs quitting and if they do, then they don't deserve shit. Noone should shed a tear for them.

MeloHype
06-19-2013, 04:21 PM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/4667585/loc-dog-gets-a-job-o.gif

024
06-19-2013, 04:25 PM
The end game wasn't a collapse. Spurs were lucky to be in that position in the first place thanks to Parker's fluke 3. The ball just didn't bounce the right way in the end. That's luck, it swings both ways. When the Spurs were up 13 and Ginobili continued gunning for Heat finals MVP... that was a collapse.

hater
06-19-2013, 04:27 PM
The end game wasn't a collapse. Spurs were lucky to be in that position in the first place thanks to Parker's fluke 3. The ball just didn't bounce the right way in the end. That's luck, it swings both ways. When the Spurs were up 13 and Ginobili continued gunning for Heat finals MVP... that was a collapse.

cosign this shit.

ElNono
06-19-2013, 04:29 PM
Disclaimer: My computations dont' account for injuries or teams quitting. I really dont' see spurs quitting and if they do, then they don't deserve shit. Noone should shed a tear for them.

This is where your shit gets weak, imo... something to clean up for next season... when you make a prediction, stand by it, tbh...

HI-FI
06-19-2013, 04:32 PM
my servers melted down but not before I was able to get the prediction. Spurs in 7.

:lol
that's good. good stuff.

hater
06-19-2013, 04:33 PM
This is where your shit gets weak, imo... something to clean up for next season... when you make a prediction, stand by it, tbh...

oh I stand by it. But how can you possibly say your prediction was wrong if player A goes down in injury? or, how can you include potential injuries into your computations? Same goes for teams quitting. To include realistic probabilities of those, would mean you need to borrow IBM's Big Blue power.

come on man. get realistic. It's pretty simple, if Spurs don't quit, they win the series.

kaji157
06-19-2013, 04:40 PM
oh I stand by it. But how can you possibly say your prediction was wrong if player A goes down in injury? or, how can you include potential injuries into your computations? Same goes for teams quitting. To include realistic probabilities of those, would mean you need to borrow IBM's Big Blue power.

come on man. get realistic. It's pretty simple, if Spurs don't quit, they win the series.

Agreed, it took a massive fuckup from Manu, idiotic decitions by pop, awfull shooting nights for TP and Danny Green, 2 miraculous shots by the heat, two offensive rebounds in the last 20 seconds, two non calls on the last spurs posessions and STILL we lost only by 3.

If this game shows something is that if the refs keep the good work, then San Antonio has a real chance of taking game 7.

Spurs players are tired, but LeBron played 50 minutes, Ray allen played 42 for the first time in 2 years... they are also tired.

Spurs can win this shit.

InRareForm
06-19-2013, 04:56 PM
Call it what you want, heartbreaking nonetheless

Obstructed_View
06-19-2013, 05:01 PM
Agree. Not a collapse. That was a full-on choke.