DeMarcus Cousins wants a maxed-out contract extension, and reportedly will demand a

[ducks]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/demarcus-cousins-maxed-contract-extension-reportedly-ask-trade-173632731.html
manu for him!

[Richie]

No thanks. Supreme talent but a cancer to any team. Petulant child in a mans body.

[Seventyniner]

I'd rather have Dwight Howard. And that's not saying a whole lot.

[lefty]

Ducks :lol

[BRHornet45]

He needs (and deserves) a career ending injury. He is a terrible human being.

[SenorSpur]

I'd rather have Dwight Howard. And that's not saying a whole lot.

I hate to say it, because I'm not a Dwight Howard fan, but I agree. I'd rather have Howard this this clown.

[Horry Hipcheck]

Cousins and the Maloofs frequently competed with one another to see who could cause the most damage to the Kings franchise. He's an average player with the mind and heart of a child throwing a tantrum. Pass.

[james evans]

people that are headcases normally reflect those around them. jackson never had problems in san antonio and sheed never had problems in detroit.

[look_at_g_shred]

lol at this thread

[Raven]

he's flat out retarded.

[chrhawk]

Supremely talented player, but total moron.


http://youtu.be/QVW65gfX0yQ

[HemisfairArena]

I would take Cousins in a heartbeat. Give me a new young big 3 of Cousins/Leonard/Green and that is sick as hell.

[coyotes_geek]

keeping Splitter at less than max > maxing out Howard > setting yourself on fire >>>>> maxing out demarcus cousins

[Phenomanul]

people that are headcases normally reflect those around them. jackson never had problems in san antonio and sheed never had problems in detroit.

mmmm.... IDK... something major got him "kicked off" of the team this year... more than the typical run-ol-the-mill complaint about lack of playing time...

[benefactor]

:lol max contract

They need to let his ass walk. He won't get more than the MLE on the open market.

[tesseractive]

:lol max contract

They need to let his ass walk. He won't get more than the MLE on the open market.
Somebody will be dumb enough to pay a lot more than that. Somebody always is.

[Beaverfuzz]

Good luck getting that contract!

[HemisfairArena]

He's gonna get a max contract easy. This kid is 22 and is gonna be a beast. All everyone brings up his where his head is at and that can be fixed. This kid's last game of the season he had 30+ and 20+ against the Clippers. Yeah...no one is gonna wanna give that guy a max deal...lmao. He's already averaging a double/double and his prime isnt for another 6-7 years down the road.

[cd98]

I'd rather have Splitter, even after his game 4 performance.

[HemisfairArena]

I'd rather have Splitter, even after his game 4 performance.


Splitter is already 28 and declining right before our eyes. Yep....lets keep that dude over Demarcus Cousins.

[tesseractive]

people that are headcases normally reflect those around them. jackson never had problems in san antonio and sheed never had problems in detroit.
Spurs Dennis Rodman says hi.

Part of the reason that well-run franchises do better with headcases is that they carefully research them and try really hard to figure out which ones they think they can handle and which ones they can't.

It doesn't seem like Cousins is fundamentally invested in the concept of a team. Dwight Howard has done some boneheaded things and been incredibly selfish at times, but there have also been times when he was coachable, willing to learn, and willing to do what his team needed him to do. If I'm a GM desperate for a star with a good veteran team and quality coaching -- and I think Howard can recover medically -- I would definitely be willing to look hard at betting the franchise on Dwight Howard.

I would never, ever bet a franchise on Cousins, so I'd never give him anything close to max money.

[HemisfairArena]

Spurs Dennis Rodman says hi.

Part of the reason that well-run franchises do better with headcases is that they carefully research them and try really hard to figure out which ones they think they can handle and which ones they can't.

It doesn't seem like Cousins is fundamentally invested in the concept of a team. Dwight Howard has done some boneheaded things and been incredibly selfish at times, but there have also been times when he was coachable, willing to learn, and willing to do what his team needed him to do. If I'm a GM desperate for a star with a good veteran team and quality coaching -- and I think Howard can recover medically -- I would definitely be willing to look hard at betting the franchise on Dwight Howard.

I would never, ever bet a franchise on Cousins, so I'd never give him anything close to max money.


I was actually thinking about Rodman when this thread was made.

Also..we are talking about the Sacramento Kings here. they arent exactly known for properly handling and developing their players. Hell...they were trying to move the team right in the middle of the season this year...its no wonder Cousins as a 22 year old kid is confused under that leadership. He doesnt know whether he's coming or going right now. He's basically trying to force his way out of that mess in Sacramento. I would too.

[tesseractive]

He's gonna get a max contract easy. This kid is 22 and is gonna be a beast. All everyone brings up his where his head is at and that can be fixed. This kid's last game of the season he had 30+ and 20+ against the Clippers. Yeah...no one is gonna wanna give that guy a max deal...lmao. He's already averaging a double/double and his prime isnt for another 6-7 years down the road.
Amare Stoudamire is on a max contract, too. Just because he can get won doesn't mean it's a good idea to give him one.

[HemisfairArena]

Amare Stoudamire is on a max contract, too. Just because he can get won doesn't mean it's a good idea to give him one.

Amare got a max deal coming off a season ending injury. The Knicks were stupid there. Amare cant seem to stay healthy anymore. Thats a whole different scenario. Its the same reason people are leary of DHoward. He'll get the max deal of course but there will always be that lingering question of when his back is gonna get injured again. Just look at Bynum too. It makes even more sense for Cousins to get a max deal with all these other guys hurt or recently coming off major injury at the center position.

[tesseractive]

I was actually thinking about Rodman when this thread was made.

Also..we are talking about the Sacramento Kings here. they arent exactly known for properly handling and developing their players. Hell...they were trying to move the team right in the middle of the season this year...its no wonder Cousins as a 22 year old kid is confused under that leadership. He doesnt know whether he's coming or going right now. He's basically trying to force his way out of that mess in Sacramento. I would too.
It's possible you're right. And obviously, someone will place a bet based on that chance. The problem is that habits and attitudes get formed. Some guys spend their formative years learning that the NBA is all about looking for your stats first, slacking off and counting on the franchise to let it go because they need you more than you need them, and enjoying all the perks of being young and famous. A good situation later on can't always turn that around. After spending several years in one of the most broken franchises in the NBA, I'd be scared to bet on Cousins.

[ducks]

I knew I could lighten the mood with this thread

[spursnatic]

After Manu Ginob's performance tonight, you will be taking this thread down!!..GO SPURS GO!!!...

[exstatic]

people that are headcases normally reflect those around them. jackson never had problems in san antonio and sheed never had problems in detroit.

Miss that whole part about him being cut for being a disruption this year?

[DJR210]

Max contract + Headcase = No Thanks

[HemisfairArena]

Max contract + Headcase = No Thanks

14 mil/yr+ diminishing skills= No Thanks....but yet we gave it to Manu.

[TXstbobcat]

Good luck getting that contract!

There will always be an idiot general manager and owner willing to overpay for an overrated player.

[HemisfairArena]

There will always be an idiot general manager and owner willing to overpay for an overrated player.


Agreed. Our highest paid player this year is Manu.

[tesseractive]

Agreed. Our highest paid player this year is Manu.
That was a fair contract when it was signed, and the amount he was overpaid was more or less deferred salary from the front of the contract.

Remember: when he signed that contract, he was arguably our best player.

[BoviceRunsTrains]

I've always been a fan of his game. He's got to mature eventually.... right?

[dallasmaverickslose]

Ah, I don't want him. We can find somebody else without a massive ego.

[HemisfairArena]

That was a fair contract when it was signed, and the amount he was overpaid was more or less deferred salary from the front of the contract.

Remember: when he signed that contract, he was arguably our best player.

And that is where the challenge is. We paid Manu on hoping he could continue his performances. Its always a gamble....and I think Cousins is well worth the gamble...but when I see posters say he is a joke or Splitter is a better choice...thats just comical.

[HemisfairArena]

See here's whats funny..Cousins...even with his mental issues still had a 36 and 22 game against the Clippers on the last game of the season. Kid is only 22. Splitter on the other hand will never, ever have a 36 and 22 game... not to mention Splitter is hitting his prime at the age of 28. You could put 5 PG's out there and Splitter would not score 36 points on them and grab 22 boards...but posters here say they would rather stick with Splitter that plays like a 13 year old girl.

[DJR210]

14 mil/yr+ diminishing skills= No Thanks....but yet we gave it to Manu.


Manu was not flat out terrible three years ago. He is also a good teammate, and has corporate knowledge. Apples and oranges.

[HemisfairArena]

Your a black guy aren't you?

I must be...I know when to use you're instead of your.

[HemisfairArena]

Manu was not flat out terrible three years ago.

And Cousins is great right now.

[DJR210]

And Cousins is great right now.

:lol "Great"

[HemisfairArena]

:lol "Great"


Averaging the same as Duncan and DHoward this year...but at the age of 22...you tell me.

[Baseline]

DeMarcus might strangle Pop. So sure, bring him in.

[HemisfairArena]

DeMarcus might strangle Pop. So sure, bring him in.


Thats true...so Matt Bonner is a better option.

[exstatic]

I've always been a fan of his game. He's got to mature eventually.... right?

Nope. See: Jackson, Stephen.

[joeSpurs]

Some owner might pay him this money. The guy could be making as much money as LeBron ... Some people just aren't serious.

[exstatic]

And Cousins is great right now.

No he's not. 17p/10r is not greatness by any standard. He's barely matching our 37 YO Center.

[DJR210]

Averaging the same as Duncan and DHoward this year...but at the age of 22...you tell me.

Averaging 17 and 9 on a piss poor Kings squad in need of a star? Not bad numbers, but the baggage isnt worth it IMO. Franchise players who have established themselves demand max contracts, he's really fucking confused, and his agent sucks.

[exstatic]

See here's whats funny..Cousins...even with his mental issues still had a 36 and 22 game against the Clippers on the last game of the season. Kid is only 22. Splitter on the other hand will never, ever have a 36 and 22 game... not to mention Splitter is hitting his prime at the age of 28. You could put 5 PG's out there and Splitter would not score 36 points on them and grab 22 boards...but posters here say they would rather stick with Splitter that plays like a 13 year old girl.

You'd make a pretty average NBA GM, some day, and that isn't a complement. You don't pay some guy based on statistical outliers.

[DJR210]

No he's not. 17p/10r is not greatness by any standard. He's barely matching our 37 YO Center.

Don't give him credit for a double double, he's averaging 9 board and less than a block a game.

[HemisfairArena]

No he's not. 17p/10r is not greatness by any standard. He's barely matching our 37 YO Center.

Youre kidding right? The guy is already averaging 17 and 10 at the age of 22 and only averaged playing 30 minutes a game. If he averages 35+ minutes a game...he is a 20 and 12 player right now.

[InRareForm]

why is demarcus cousin a #2 topic 30 minutes before a game 7 of the NBA Finals? :lol

[HemisfairArena]

Hey...dont worry my fellow Spurs fans...we wont get this "scrub"...we'll keep our elite Bonner and Splitter...so no worries.

[benefactor]

why is demarcus cousin a #2 topic 30 minutes before a game 7 of the NBA Finals? :lol
Stuff like this can be a nice tension breaking distraction.

[HemisfairArena]

Stuff like this can be a nice tension breaking distraction.

Bingo. We are just discussing a different topic leading up to game 7.

[exstatic]

Averaging 17 and 9 on a piss poor Kings squad in need of a star? Not bad numbers, but the baggage isnt worth it IMO. Franchise players who have established themselves demand max contracts, he's really fucking confused, and his agent sucks.
Actually, on a bad team he should be like 26/12. Not putting up big numbers on a bad team speaks of laziness, inefficiency, or both.

[ducks]

with the other owners I would want out to

[exstatic]

Don't give him credit for a double double, he's averaging 9 board and less than a block a game.

It was 9.9. I rounded. Sue me. :lol

[HemisfairArena]

Actually, on a bad team he should be like 26/12. Not putting up big numbers on a bad team speaks of laziness, inefficiency, or both.

On a bad team? You mean like DHoward and the Lakers?...and Howard could still only average 17 and 12 and he is gonna get a max deal easily. I think everyone on the Lakers was injured and Howard should have averaged 25 and 15.

[exstatic]

Youre kidding right? The guy is already averaging 17 and 10 at the age of 22 and only averaged playing 30 minutes a game. If he averages 35+ minutes a game...he is a 20 and 12 player right now.

So, why isn't he? Every NBA coach he's had has at least eventually hated his guts, and he's gotten two of them fired.

[exstatic]

On a bad team? You mean like DHoward and the Lakers?...and Howard could still only average 17 and 12 and he is gonna get a max deal easily. I think everyone on the Lakers was injured and Howard should have averaged 25 and 15.

Howard HAS averaged 25/15. That's not a projection or wish, and he was injured this year, not to mention having to make due with Kobe's scraps. Oh, and if the LAL are bad, Sacto is abysmal.

[DJR210]

Actually, on a bad team he should be like 26/12. Not putting up big numbers on a bad team speaks of laziness, inefficiency, or both.

That's my point. His numbers arent bad, but considering the team he's on they should be much better.

[HemisfairArena]

So, why isn't he? Every NBA coach he's had has at least eventually hated his guts, and he's gotten two of them fired.

Same reason Drummond isnt averaging 35+ a game right now...and by the way...Drummond is gonna be a beast too. They are young and they play for lottery franchises who dont know what to do with them. Both Drummond and Cousins should be at 35+minutes/gm easily.

[HemisfairArena]

That's my point. His numbers arent bad, but considering the team he's on they should be much better.

Once again...same deal...the thread says Cousins wants a max deal and people laughed but say Howard should get a max deal...when Howard played on a bad team and couldnt average much more.

[DJR210]

LOL, I would never say Howard should get maxed, he's a primadonna faggot too tbh.

[HemisfairArena]

LOL, I would never say Howard should get maxed, he's a primadonna faggot too tbh.


Leave personality out of it. People also say LeBron is a primadonna.

[DJR210]

Leave personality out of it. People also say LeBron is a primadonna.

There is a difference between crying to refs, and being a cancer to the team.

[Chinook]

I'd be all on that if I were Houston. The Rockets need to gamble on another potential star. It worked out beautifully with Harden, and even though the risk is much great with Cousins, the reward is also higher.

Try to trade for Cousins without giving up Asik. If you have to, trade Asik for Cousins and try to sign a free-agent big NOT named Howard (so Splitter or Josh Smith). Then, they'll have the biggest boom-or-bust lineup in the league.

Lin/Beverly
Harden
Parsons
Cousins/Smith
Asik/Splitter/Cousins

Pretty intriguing.

[HemisfairArena]

I'd be all on that if I were Houston. The Rockets need to gamble on another potential star. It worked out beautifully with Harden, and even though the risk is much great with Cousins, the reward is also higher.

Try to trade for Cousins without giving up Asik. If you have to, trade Asik for Cousins and try to sign a free-agent big NOT named Howard (so Splitter or Josh Smith). Then, they'll have the biggest boom-or-bust lineup in the league.

Lin/Beverly
Harden
Parsons
Cousins/Smith
Asik/Splitter/Cousins

Pretty intriguing.


That is an awesome team. Asik and Cousins in the paint.

[exstatic]

Once again...same deal...the thread says Cousins wants a max deal and people laughed but say Howard should get a max deal...when Howard played on a bad team and couldnt average much more.

Howard's done it, put up the big numbers. Cousins hasn't. This was one of his best seasons and one of Howard's worst. You're not helping your case for Cousins using that comparison.

[HemisfairArena]

Howard's done it, put up the big numbers. Cousins hasn't. This was one of his best seasons and one of Howard's worst. You're not helping your case for Cousins using that comparison.

Cousins is 22....LMAO. What part of that is hard to understand? Howard's 2nd season in the league...he averaged 15 and 12...Cousins averaged 18 and 11. LMAO

[james evans]

Miss that whole part about him being cut for being a disruption this year?
no, he just was calling pop out on his bullshit. he had enough and other players should speak out about it too. his substitutions are shiity. when we win, he looks like a genius, when we lose, they look like what they are.

[exstatic]

no, he just was calling pop out on his bullshit. he had enough and other players should speak out about it too. his substitutions are shiity. when we win, he looks like a genius, when we lose, they look like what they are.

What part of the word disruption are you failing to understand? You pretty much just describe one to a 'T'. Calling out the boss is never smart.

[exstatic]

Cousins is 22....LMAO. What part of that is hard to understand? Howard's 2nd season in the league...he averaged 15 and 12...Cousins averaged 18 and 11. LMAO

Yeah, but Howard ALWAYS defended. Cousins is a dishrag on D.

[james evans]

my bad, wrong thread haha

[HemisfairArena]

Yeah, but Howard ALWAYS defended. Cousins is a dishrag on D.

And DHoward doesnt have an offensive game and is a d-bag.

[exstatic]

And DHoward doesnt have an offensive game and is a d-bag.

He doesn't have a post game, but somehow he scores, and decently.

[HemisfairArena]

He doesn't have a post game, but somehow he scores, and decently.


Not as well as Cousins.

[dbreiden83080]

Yeah a team that went 28-54 should be giving one of their own a max contract..

[HemisfairArena]

Yeah a team that went 28-54 should be giving one of their own a max contract..



LMAO...worse argument of all time. So every player that has a bad record in pro sprts should not be looked at as a great player? Troy Aikman went 1-15 in his first year...he sucked so bad he won 3 Super Bowls.

[dbreiden83080]

LMAO...worse argument of all time. So every player that has a bad record in pro sprts should not be looked at as a great player? Troy Aikman went 1-15 in his first year...he sucked so bad he won 3 Super Bowls.

You think he is a max money guy???

Whoa....

[HemisfairArena]

You think he is a max money guy???

Whoa....

You dont?


LMAO

[dbreiden83080]

You dont?


LMAO

He put 19 a game on a team that won 28 games..

[HemisfairArena]

I'm done with this thread until after the game. I'm trying to watch my Spurs.

[imjunsul]

bump

[Beaverfuzz]

Agreed. Our highest paid player this year is Manu.

And now he's not, same boat as Cousins.

[TheGoldStandard]

I'd take Cousins in a second, the guy needs someone who has experience to teach him and a franchise that has skins on the wall to settle him down. It's hard to get someone's attention when you have shitty players around you, no skins on the wall and bad coaching.. Tyreke Evans wants out too. I'd take him, teach him, Pop would coddle him and he'd perform.

[BatManu20]

keeping Splitter at less than max > maxing out Howard > setting yourself on fire >>>>> maxing out demarcus cousins

Lol

[BatManu20]

You have a better chance of seeing Vlade Divac come out of retirement to play for the Spurs then you do seeing Demarcus Cousins in a Spurs uniform..