The Spurs Will Be Back Next Season

[timvp]

Last offseason, I wasn't confident that the Spurs could sustain a championship level team. I know everyone has written this team off again (for like the 7th offseason in a row, literally) but I'm actually more optimistic than I was a year ago.

Main reason: Kawhi Leonard's wide open potential. I don't know how good he can become but he he could develop into a great player. It's within the realm of possibilities. Hell, he was there at times during this playoff run at only 21 years old.

Green didn't respond well to the Heat's defensive adjustment on him but he's legitimately a top 10-15 starting shooting guard. Sure, he's a specialist but he's really damn useful when he's able to stay within his role.

I'm going to stop counting out Duncan. Maybe he finally slows down next season. But maybe he doesn't. He looked better this year than any of the previous five or so seasons.

Bring back Ginobili and work him into a more specialized role. He's not capable of being a main distributor any longer but he's still damn valuable. As a fourth or fifth best player on your team, Ginobili is gold.

Parker has gotten better and better and better. There's a chance he finally stops getting better but with advancements in his basketball IQ and ability to manage games, he should stay elite for a couple more years.

Diaw is a solid role player. Joseph has very nice potential and could blossom if given a full season as the backup point guard. Splitter at a reasonable price is worth bringing back and is a proven, high-quality regular season player. Neal at a reasonable price would also be worth bringing back, especially if the Spurs believe his late season unevenness was due to his chronic foot injury.

The Spurs also have some roster and salary cap flexibility. If they can add even one more dependable piece, have Leonard and Green continue progressing as players, and the Big 3 avoid any drastic cliff falls, this team can get back here next season.

Write these guys off at your own peril. I believe it's a strong possibility that the Spurs can put together another great playoff push next season.

[Robz4000]

Said this months ago. This wasn't their last chance; they have two more shots max and luckily the holes needing to be filled aren't huge. Just pray for health and cohesion.

[ctins12]

Word.

[biziofromdowntown]

No.

[ducks]

kl will take manu's place

[Darius Bieber]

Not sure about this. It took two key injuries in the west for the Spurs to make the finals. Not gonna line up like that next season.

[Spurs Brazil]

I'd only bring Tiago back with a Danny Green contract, if he wants more GTFO

[T Park]

Maybe. Just don't know if you can expect Duncan to play that well again.
Green as well.

And the player to add? The FA market to me isn't anything special.

[$pursDynasty]

We will, TP will make another promise to Timmy tonight, next year we will get you another championship

[weeks]

I don't think Tim Duncan makes the Finals again.

I'm not being fatalistic, I'm just giving my honest appraisal.

[T Park]

Not sure about this. It took two key injuries in the west for the Spurs to make the finals. Not gonna line up like that next season.


Who was the other injury other than Westbrook?

[ShoogarBear]

Well, duh, of course they'll be back. Or Stern will give them a whopping fine.

[ThePop]

Hahahahahahah no we won't. It's okay, it's time to accept the end of an era. Terrific 15 years.

[exstatic]

No.

Kill yourself, or stop posting. I don't care which, but do it now.

[Darius Bieber]

Who was the other injury other than Westbrook?

Kobe Bryant in my opinion. The whole Lakers team fell apart.

[slick'81]

Not unless splitter walks ,manu takes 2.7 and spurs bring in a legit fa

[noles1983]

had me until i read bring back manu, dude is done. His game serves no purpose. Get a player who passes to other spurs.

[ElNono]

Agreed. Great group, and still room to grow... we definitely need a couple more pieces, but damn, this team is special.

[spurraider21]

I like that you didn't mention Splitter.

[rold50]

The spurs really need to find a really good backup PG. As of right now, there is a really big drop off going from Parker to CoJo, Nando, Mills. I really hope that CoJo or Nando can develop into a reasonable backup PG.

[biziofromdowntown]

Kill yourself, or stop posting. I don't care which, but do it now.
Do you really think we'll be back next season? And how exactly?
With no Manu, with a one year older Timmy, Westbrick healthy....
I'll prey to let it happen again, but i don't belive so.

[Robz4000]

I still think the Spurs beat the Thunder and Lakers if all three teams were healthy. If OKC had Harden still tho...

[siraulo23]

Well they'll still be the same team pretty much

it mainly depends on kawhi's growth and TD's play, If he keeps playing like this for next season, the spurs will be right in the mix

[th3answ3r]

imo this was it, wouldnt be surprised if they meet miami again tho

[DJR210]

Bring back Ginobili and work him into a more specialized role. He's not capable of being a main distributor any longer but he's still damn valuable. As a fourth or fifth best player on your team, Ginobili is gold.

You know god damn well that Manu as the 5th best player on the Spurs will still play the majority of the time on a Popovich team in the playoffs. He needs to go. At what point do you think the Spurs should start preparing for their future?

[mexicanjunior]

I don't see them recovering from this...the time to rebuild is upon us. We are going to turn into the mid 90's Pistons.

[itsamanuthree]

I agree. But we desperately need a good expirienced back up pg and to move manu to the starting line up.

[Spursfanfromafar]

I wish the Spurs could add one more tested role player, preferably a swingman who can play PF in a pinch and can guard 3s. That would reduce the weight of burden from Kawhi's shoulders as the Spurs transit to a New Big 3 - Tony, Timmy (yes, I do believe in him) and Kawhi.

[EVAY]

Marijuana is legal in Colorado. How did you get it sent to you down there in S.A.? I am trying to get my hands on some right now, and after I am successful, I may agree with you. Right now? I need something else. The bottle of Pinot Noir was not quite enough.

[McGusto55]

Not sure about this. It took two key injuries in the west for the Spurs to make the finals. Not gonna line up like that next season.

Agreed .. It's over this spurs team Gino,Timmy done..

[Landon Donofag]

'Bookmarked

[024]

Spurs seriously need to explore their cap options. They need a swing to fences trade or free agent acquisition. That would involve giving up Splitter.

Sticking with the same core, even with Leonard's emergence (unless he becomes the second coming of Scottie Pippen next year), just won't do. They need a viable superstar who can score during crunch time.

[soxxx]

Dont the Spurs have like 20 million to spend?

[T Park]

Kobe Bryant in my opinion. The whole Lakers team fell apart.

Lmfao yeah the Lakers. Right.

[T Park]

Spurs seriously need to explore their cap options. They need a swing to fences trade or free agent acquisition. That would involve giving up Splitter.

Sticking with the same core, even with Leonard's emergence (unless he becomes the second coming of Scottie Pippen next year), just won't do. They need a viable superstar who can score during crunch time.

Easier said than done.

[UnWantedTheory]

Completely agree. The loss obviously left a bad taste, but getting to this point has been inspirational. I see no reason why a serious playoff push can't be a possibility next year. I am actually very excited for our offseason.

[Darius McCrary]

I want Diaw back badly. I don't see it though.

[mikec]

2 keys in my opinion. Parker will be there but what about Kawhi and Duncan? Can Kawhi build on this season playoffs and turn into a legit 3rd option/borderline 2nd option type player, where he's consistently a 16-17pt, 8-9 rebound type of a player? Because that's what I think it may take to negate the possible dropoff Duncan may face next year. I think it's asking A LOT for Timmy to replicate what he did this season. But then again, he proved us all wrong so maybe he doesn't give us another 18/10 type season but somewhere along the lines of 16/9.

[spurraider21]

i'm pretty numb to the pain right now. after game 6, this somehow didn't hurt as bad as i thought. i f'n love this team

[exstatic]

I want Diaw back badly. I don't see it though.
You think he's going to opt out of $4.5M? I don't see it.

[Trill Clinton]

playoffs, yes. finals, no.

[LA24]

It's hard enough to win back to back titles more or less even trying to make it to the Finals twice in a row. I'd say highly improbable.

[Ice009]

I'll never count out Tim Duncan. All of you losers that want him to retire can go fuck yourselves. I want him to play as long as he wants to play.

How about you guys stop watching the Spurs and fuck off. We don't need any of you.

Tim Duncan is awesome, my favorite player ever. He did all he could. Amazing effort from him at this age. INCREDIBLE effort. Kawhi played his heart out too.

[dbreiden83080]

For that to happen Kawhi IMO has to become a borderline superstar. His role must be fully expanded and I doubt our dip shit coach will allow that..

[RD2191]

Yeah no. Spurs are too old. We need younger talent. We can maybe make it to the WCF but we wont get close to an NBA title with these same players. Get ready for another season of disappointment if the Spurs don't make any offseason moves.

[NASpurs]

Hahahahahahah no we won't. It's okay, it's time to accept the end of an era. Terrific 15 years.

Is there a bigger faggot on this board than you? Seriously, do you take five cocks in the ass at the same time while posting?

[TD 21]

Agreed.

Clearly, when your three best (or, three of your best four) players are at the stage theirs are at, it's always doubtful, but unless the Thunder take a clear step forward (as opposed to just incremental improvement from some of their young guys), at the very least, they should start next season as at least co-favorites in the West.

Two big decisions loom, however . . .

1) Splitter. I've seen all I need to see the past two playoffs to know that this is not a guy you can "go to war with". I don't care how good a fit he is, zero chance I'd tie up a bare minimum of 4/$32M in him.

2) Backup PG. The days of having Ginobili essentially play this role are over (or at least, they should be) and Joseph is far too limited a player to assume the role.

Unfortunately, I have zero confidence in them addressing these two needs. In fact, I don't think they'll make a significant move period and instead will just hope Leonard and to a lesser extent, Joseph, take a big step forward.

[Chinook]

It all depends on how the team uses this off-season. They are in a position (with cap space and Bonner's deal) to really make some good moves. If they can get one more young piece, I'll feel great about the future. I wouldn't go for a seasoned vet this off-season. The Spurs raised their ceiling by developing younger players. They need to continue with that in the off-season.

I'm really curious to see how the guard rotation is going to work now, though. I think we all agree that Ginobili should not be the primary (or at least the only) play-maker off the bench. If the Spurs have to get a good player to run the point (at least Livingston-quality), does Ginobili even stay with the subs? Parker and Green work really well together, but there something appealing about being able to have one of Leonard and Green in at the all times. Even if Ginobili and Green stay put, what happens to Joseph, De Colo or Mills?

Maybe the team just rolls with what it has, but I don't think their bench will get stronger without at least one big addition. Maybe a trade for Carter is in order?

[dylankerouac]

It can be done.

[unforeseen]

The Charlotte Bobcats will back next season also.

[ThePop]

Is there a bigger faggot on this board than you? Seriously, do you take five cocks in the ass at the same time while posting?

There probably is, can't say for sure.

[InRareForm]

A trade will come. I sense something needs to be shaken.

[TheProfessor]

I agree that Manu still have value, but I wonder if he can ease into a different type of role that allows Joseph to develop as a back-up point and gives Kawhi the additional touches he needs.

[Dingle Barry]

Don't see it unless we can get a dynamic big somehow tbh. Hell of a ride.

[ElNono]

Agreed.

Clearly, when your three best (or, three of your best four) players are at the stage theirs are at, it's always doubtful, but unless the Thunder take a clear step forward (as opposed to just incremental improvement from some of their young guys), at the very least, they should start next season as at least co-favorites in the West.

Two big decisions loom, however . . .

1) Splitter. I've seen all I need to see the past two playoffs to know that this is not a guy you can "go to war with". I don't care how good a fit he is, zero chance I'd tie up a bare minimum of 4/$32M in him.

2) Backup PG. The days of having Ginobili essentially play this role are over (or at least, they should be) and Joseph is far too limited a player to assume the role.

Unfortunately, I have zero confidence in them addressing these two needs. In fact, I don't think they'll make a significant move period and instead will just hope Leonard and to a lesser extent, Joseph, take a big step forward.

Agree 100%.

[TampaDude]

50 wins? Yup!

Playoffs? Yup!

Championship? TBD

[Marcus Bryant]

Hear, hear. 2 minutes or 28 seconds away, whatever.

[Horse]

It won't matter if Pop and Manu keep playing for the other team there is so fucked up shit going on. That said Leonard is ready he is one hell of a player. I think I'm gonna break my tv if I watch Pop in the press conference.

[phxspurfan]

Greg Oden

[lefty]

No, they wont

[BackHome]

We got lucky with the teams we played had hurt players so early was way easier then it has ever been for us. The odds of that happening again next year are slim to none.

[spurtech09]

Idk if the spurs will make the finals next yr.....definilty play offs but its gonna be hard to make it to the finals...theres a lot of talented young teams like warriors and thunder.....don't forget westbrook got hurt...so you never know thunder might end up in the finals....as for the heat...I don't think the heat will win a championship next yr....should let might not make it to the finals if pacers add the right pieces to there squad...like shooters and a decent back up pg ...I think this will be heats last championship.....In my opinion the spurs out played heat in this series but still lost...should coulda...

[silverblackfan]

Hell this team went further in the playoffs than a James Harden OKC. If Manu can become the 4th option behind Leonard, then the team stays at a pretty high level. It is still a good time to be a Spurs fan.

[Borosai]

The Spurs will always be back winning games and in the playoffs. A championship run is another story.

[Harry Callahan]

This Series was lost two days ago. It's sad. Miami left the door wide open and the Spurs couldn't walk through it. I will not watch any ABC or ESPN crap for a couple of days as they fawn over Lebron. We all know they were let off the hook ten different ways on Tuesday. Yes, they got very, very lucky. That's what pisses me off about the whole thing. They basically spit the bit and got their sentence commuted by way of 2 or 3 missed free throws and lack of defensive rebounding at the end of a game.

I don't know how we can really expect this team to get back to the finals anytime soon given the age of several core players. The stars aligned this year in so many ways - it was absolutely amazing that this roster got to the finals and should have won it. The brass ring was there and it slipped through their fingers. It's a shame..... this one hurts.

I'd like to be optimistic, but getting to this point is an unbelievable grind and so very hard. This roster really could not get to the finish line intact.

The Spurs were good enough to win it all.......they just couldn't quite get it done at the end.

BTW did the low rent Heat fans stick around til the end this time? A bunch of losers from the worst sports town in America.

[Capt Bringdown]

Not sure about this. It took two key injuries in the west for the Spurs to make the finals. Not gonna line up like that next season.

Exactly. 2013 was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. Spurs couldn't have asked for a better scenario up until precisely .28 seconds left in game 6.
There is no next year. I don't trust Pop anymore, anyway. Do you?
LOL, can't believe some people talking about Manu coming back.

[HarlemHeat37]

The current Western Conference is the weakest it has been in my lifetime, tbh..

There aren't any dominant teams in the West, tbh..I've been saying this all year when most posters here doubted the Spurs and overhyped other teams..

The Harden trade changed the landscape of the West..it's wide open..

The Spurs need to make some moves, though..they desperately need a bench, tbh..

[dbreiden83080]

We got lucky with the teams we played had hurt players so early was way easier then it has ever been for us. The odds of that happening again next year are slim to none.

Lakers sucked even when healthy..
We beat GS
We would have beat OKC this year no doubt about it.. We should have won this chip...

[pooh]

I'm sorry the door officially "shut" tonight. It was a nice run.

[spurtech09]

if kobe wants another ring than come hop on the spurs train.....2014 nba champs

[dbreiden83080]

The current Western Conference is the weakest it has been in my lifetime, tbh..

There aren't any dominant teams in the West, tbh..I've been saying this all year when most posters here doubted the Spurs and overhyped other teams..

The Harden trade changed the landscape of the West..it's wide open..

The Spurs need to make some moves, though..they desperately need a bench, tbh..

I am actually optimistic about next year.. Duncan will not quit he is so focused and in such great shape at this stage I think he plays great next year again..

If Leonard can up his game and Manu retires or is minimized.. Who knows??

[Darius Bieber]

Exactly. 2013 was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. Spurs couldn't have asked for a better scenario up until precisely .28 seconds left in game 6.
There is no next year. I don't trust Pop anymore, anyway. Do you?

I honestly do. I still trust our Big Three. I still trust the system. I still trust most of the role players. The Spurs were one rebound away in Game 6, and one chip shot away in Game 7 to win at all. It's just a shame that it won't be enough next season. OKC will get healthy and better.

[mikec]

1) Splitter. I've seen all I need to see the past two playoffs to know that this is not a guy you can "go to war with". I don't care how good a fit he is, zero chance I'd tie up a bare minimum of 4/$32M in him.


Agreed. There are plenty of guys on this team I'd want in my foxhole when the going gets tough, Splitter is not one of them. I still think we should resign him but nothing more than 8-9M/year. I'd love to see what Baynes can give us next year.

[DPG21920]

This is a team you thought would lose to MEM who was only there bc OKC was injured

[rayray2k8]

I truly believe that the spurs can come back to the finals and ironically go against the heat.. I don't know why, call me a homer, but i know in my heart that the drive for 5 is not over.... It'll happen spurs fans.. I know its asking much, but.... Have faith.

[spurtech09]

I still think spurs need another tim ducan type player...

[Johnny RIngo]

I'm sure the 2010 Celtics thought the same thing.

[spurs_in_7]

they will be back to lose again!

[SpurPadre]

i'm pretty numb to the pain right now. after game 6, this somehow didn't hurt as bad as i thought. i f'n love this team

I feel the same way, man.

[spurtech09]

I truly believe that the spurs can come back to the finals and ironically go against the heat.. I don't know why, call me a homer, but i know in my heart that the drive for 5 is not over.... It'll happen spurs fans.. I know its asking much, but.... Have faith.
same here....the only thing though is waiting for awhile....wish it was already the new season.....also idk if the heat will be back in the fianls...in my opinion the heat won't win another title in along time.....

[Capt Bringdown]

The Spurs were one rebound away in Game 6...
But it wasn't just an unlucky bounce that lost that game. Pop benched the hall of famer, ffs. Manu threw 8 unforced turnovers. It's over.

[SpurPadre]

Bonner will be gone for sure, right? That would be a good start to the offseason.

[Capt Bringdown]

in my opinion the heat won't win another title in along time.....

As long as LeBron and Wade are healthy they can win as many titles as they want.

[Darius Bieber]

But it wasn't just an unlucky bounce that lost that game. Pop benched the hall of famer, ffs. Manu threw 8 unforced turnovers. It's over.

True, but Spurs needed perimeter defense that possession as well. It was a gamble that didn't pay off well at all.

[Ice009]

Greg Oden

I definitely want to take a look at Oden. I was looking at him all season trying to find any info on his recovery. Spurs need to take a risk.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

kl will take manu's place

he's doing it already and i'm a Manu homer

[objective]

Will they be back? Don't see a good reason why they would be.

MANU - I don't think he's even worth the MLE at this point. Too broken down, can't be depended on anymore. Maybe a 3/10 deal with the third year with a 1m partial guarantee. Any more and there won't be enough room left to improve the team.

Splitter - Goodbye. If he can't make an 8-man rotation in the finals for more than 5 minutes, he can't be worth paying. Not more than the MLE, hell, not the MLE. And I loved Splitter, knew how wrong he was being used his rookie year. But he can't play for Pop. Sign&Trade or renounce, because he can't play here. I'd rather see Baynes foul out in 15 minutes than have Splitter benched by Pop.

Neal - GOODBYE GOODBYE. He gave up just as many and usually more than he got. He's not worth it at all. I'd rather the Spurs overpay Redick than take Neal back. Or some other workout invite scrub.

[TrainOfThought5]

I don't think Tim Duncan makes the Finals again.

I'm not being fatalistic, I'm just giving my honest appraisal.

We're going to get better next year.

and i dont think any team in the west will become better than us, tbh.

[Bruno]

If Spurs stand pat, they will still be a very good team and makes the playoffs with a 50+ win season. If they want to be more than that, they will need to be active this summer.

[skulls138]

I originally thought that if they lost it would be too hard to try again but now feel that their is a good chance they could make it back. I hope its with Manu but maybe he should stop playing for Argentina every year. Other NBA players like to take a rest in the off season so they can like REST THEIR FUCKING BODIES!!!! Just a suggestion, not an expert.

[lowdown]

I want to thank all of the comments both negative and positive this post season. I was too wrapped up in the games to feel like I'd add anything to the posts but I'll tell you this - I'm bummed. This team will be back to compete but the finals? I don't know. I was at the 5th game- I flew in from L.A. and Manu turned back the clock. But going forward and because they blew that opportunity...I'm not so sure. I will always be a fan but man, they were so close...

[Spursfanfromafar]

If Spurs stand pat, they will still be a very good team and makes the playoffs with a 50+ win season. If they want to be more than that, they will need to be active this summer.

Looking forward to the offseason and the Spurs Thinktank to get over my heartbreak.

[dav4463]

Spurs are the best organization in sports. They build through the draft, not through collusion. They will be very good for a long time. Miami will blow up when James leaves and will look like Dallas or Phoenix.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Damn straight the Spurs will be back, and it's the beginning of the Kawhi "Quiet Monster" Leonard era. I know I'm looking forward to every second! :D

[GrandeDavid]

Last offseason, I wasn't confident that the Spurs could sustain a championship level team. I know everyone has written this team off again (for like the 7th offseason in a row, literally) but I'm actually more optimistic than I was a year ago.

Main reason: Kawhi Leonard's wide open potential. I don't know how good he can become but he he could develop into a great player. It's within the realm of possibilities. Hell, he was there at times during this playoff run at only 21 years old.

Green didn't respond well to the Heat's defensive adjustment on him but he's legitimately a top 10-15 starting shooting guard. Sure, he's a specialist but he's really damn useful when he's able to stay within his role.

I'm going to stop counting out Duncan. Maybe he finally slows down next season. But maybe he doesn't. He looked better this year than any of the previous five or so seasons.

Bring back Ginobili and work him into a more specialized role. He's not capable of being a main distributor any longer but he's still damn valuable. As a fourth or fifth best player on your team, Ginobili is gold.

Parker has gotten better and better and better. There's a chance he finally stops getting better but with advancements in his basketball IQ and ability to manage games, he should stay elite for a couple more years.

Diaw is a solid role player. Joseph has very nice potential and could blossom if given a full season as the backup point guard. Splitter at a reasonable price is worth bringing back and is a proven, high-quality regular season player. Neal at a reasonable price would also be worth bringing back, especially if the Spurs believe his late season unevenness was due to his chronic foot injury.

The Spurs also have some roster and salary cap flexibility. If they can add even one more dependable piece, have Leonard and Green continue progressing as players, and the Big 3 avoid any drastic cliff falls, this team can get back here next season.

Write these guys off at your own peril. I believe it's a strong possibility that the Spurs can put together another great playoff push next season.

I am in complete agreement! I think this rugged run will help the Spurs not only beat OKC, but also make darn sure they lock up home court advantage!

[Tuddy]

We were 5 seconds from the trophy and apparently we're done.

[slayermin]

Fuck all you Brian Downey Spurs Fans that had one foot in the bucket. Ride or die. And I died with my team tonight.

Yeah, I was wrong. But I am proud of these guys. They gave it all they had. Spurs were the better team. Miami just had home court.

San Antonio, rise up and let's keep supporting the Spurs. We will rebuild this shit!

[Horse]

As long as LeBron and Wade are healthy they can win as many titles as they want.

Bullshit they're not even better than us. We lost game 6 they did not win it. And what the fuck is up with Pop and Manu. I'm really starting to wonder if someone really did kidnap one of their kids.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Spurs are ALWAYS a threat. This team always brings it all out. I expect them to come out again next year, win 50+ in regular season yet again, and compete for another ring. Where it stands right now, this team is in good shape. A few minor tweaks over the off-season and some hard work will get us back in the game and ready to compete again.

[Dverde]

They won't be back next season unless they make some tough decisions. We need a new sixth man. We have to decrease Manu's role or lose him altogether. Also limit what you are going to offer Tiago (6-7 mil). We have cap space for the first time in a long time. Hopefully the Spurs good run will make a player want to come here. I think the nucleus of Parker, Leonard, and Duncan is solid for one more year. I think everyone knows Duncan is gone after next year and we'll use that money to pay Leonard. Heat will lose next year. I don't even think they'll be in the finals. Chicago or Indy will take them out.

[Darius McCrary]

You think he's going to opt out of $4.5M? I don't see it.

lol, I'm an idiot then. I thought we only had him on a 1 year contract. That's great news!

[ezau]

I will be more than ecstatic to know that this isn't their last chance. I just want to see this team go at it one more time.

[coachmac87]

Honestly I let Splitter walk. Don't care what the price is. Everybody says Al Jefferson but I say we go for Paul Milsap. Very underrated player who has a post game and a mud range game and could be a beast on the boards. Insert Bayned as back up center. Sign Manu to 2 yr 10mil deal and try to draft a sf/ sg to take Neal's spot.

[polandprzem]

Funny

EVERY YEAR THE SAME THREADS

YOU CAN ALREADY MAKE A THREAD - THAT WAS A GOOD RIDE 2014 :rolleyes

[td4mvp21]

Meh, they could win 0 games next year and I would OK with that. I've gotten really mad at them over the years, but I have not one negative feeling towards any of them (maybe Ginobili though). It was a pleasure to watch this playoff run. No moral victories or anything like that - they choked Game 6 and that's shitty. But I still love them and I had so much fun watching them this year.

[HI-FI]

i'll still keep up with them, but we need Timmy to maintain health and good knees. I also pray Kawhi's tendonitis heals up and he have better, stronger knees for the future. I know he'll turn into a badass.

I suppose if we could get a backup PG and another big that is really good, this team could be back in the Finals. otherwise, I think we blew something special here.

[Nathan89]

Spurs should package Tiago up and get KG. He's a better option than Deandre on a good contract.

[spurs_in_7]

duncan will be back in a wheelchair. the old fart is 38!

[SenorSpur]

Make no mistake about it, getting to the NBA Finals is an incredible grind. After all, it took the Spurs six long years to get back. It's not that easy and some teams never get there. We can't assume that the Spurs are earmarked for a return trip next year because they got there this year.

Having Kawhi and Danny are superb building blocks. They are emerging players at their positions and Kawhi is quite possibly a star on rise. As good as this tandem is, the Spurs need more of that. The Spurs one or two more contributing role players, who can begin to integrate themselves and possibly emerge into the team's next set of stars. If they can make the right moves in the offseason, they can continue stocking the cupboard with via the draft and low-cost free agent signings.

As for Manu, I do believe it's time for him to ride off into the sunset. His body has already started breaking down on him, and his skills are in significant decline. His turnovers have become more frequent and it's killing this team. He continues trying to make the great play or great pass, when a good play or good pass would suffice. Despite all that his competitive fire burns bright. He only knows one way to play and unfortunately he's not going to change is style. I just think it's time for the Spurs to move on from him, but I know Pop will not. I expect him back wreaking havoc on the Spurs turnover rate.

Splitter is a huge enigma. I believe the wants to be back and I believe the Spurs want him back. He's never going to be an aggressive difference-maker in the paint. Isn't it curious that Kawhi is by far a better rebounder, at this stage, than Splitter is. That tell you all you need to know about Splitter. He'll be a good utility player, but not one to help offset the Duncan difference.

Speaking of bigs, Tim is stilll a very effective big - the best on the team and still one of the best in the NBA. Can we really expect him to continue motoring through another 2 seasons, at this pace and productivity level. He desparately needs some help. Time to move on from Bonner and Blair. Diaw is effective, but seriously flawed. Time to give Baynes a shot. It's also time for the Spurs to draft a young, athletic big. A youngster, who can block shots, rebound, defend the post and can score around the basket. The kid, whoever it is, could very well be a year or two away from playing - but with some good old Spurs seasoning, he could be ready in a year or so. However, it's important that the Spurs get this young, unknown big into the pipeline now - even if it means moving up in the draft to get one. Besides, he'll always have Duncan as a mentor, role model and on-court tutor.

As for backup PG, I'm comfortable with Joseph. I just think Pop and staff need to entrust him to run the offense totally, instead of deferring to Manu to do so. Manu's presence with the second unit is stunting his development. And he all know that Manu no longer needs to be the secondary ball-handler.

Internal growth worked last offseason, but the Spurs need to focus on continuous roster ugrades to fill necessary holes. After all, two of their Big Three are getting older and declining. Meanwhile, the rest of the conference is always getting better, which means the Spurs must strive to get better too.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Great run Spurs I wouldn't bet against The Spurs going back to the finals.

[lurker23]

Agree completely with the original post. Despite the fact that we'll hear "The Spurs are too old" 1823 times in the next 10 months, they will be a Western Conference contender next year, and it will because of the Big 3 of Duncan, Parker, and Leonard. Ginobili will be a very nice 4th or 5th best player.

Biggest questions for me heading into the offseason:

1. What do you do with Splitter? I think you have to try to resign him if it comes at a reasonable price, and after his performance in the Finals that's probably reasonably certain. He had a great season for the most part, and fits well next to Duncan. While he'll never be 100% comfortable against small ball lineups, they need to work with him over the summer so he can play more minutes against Heat-like teams.

2. Even with Splitter, the Spurs need another reliable big man. Current options already on the roster are passable, including the possible development of Baynes, and Bonner, who is a very solid 4th big in the regular season. However, they need someone else in the rotation who can reliably inject some offense in the low post when Duncan sits.

3. What to do with Gary Neal? I think someone may throw a fair amount of money at him; if this happens, I think the Spurs let him walk. I'll admit, I'm a bit biased against Neal, mostly because he's too in love with his own shot to fit the Spurs passing-based offense. That said, if he's gone, the Spurs need to find another 1/2/3 who can penetrate off the dribble when Parker is out of the game.

[tlongII]

No they won't. This was it. Their last chance. They had a nice run, but it's over.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

We counted them out 4 years ago too. Lol

[spurs_in_7]

say 'bye bye duncan era'

[dbreiden83080]

I'm going to stop counting out Duncan. Maybe he finally slows down next season. But maybe he doesn't. He looked better this year than any of the previous five or so seasons.


Every year Duncan just comes back in better shape.. He is going to get that 5th ring or die trying..

[dbreiden83080]

No they won't. This was it. Their last chance. They had a nice run, but it's over.

What is over??

Top 3 in the west is over?? They will be contenders again next year. No way the Heat win next year they are ripe for an ass kicking..

[baseline bum]

I hope Manu is back and that they can resign Splitter for a reasonable price and teach him to keep the fucking ball high when getting a pass. God Miami murdered him whenever he put the ball low. Don't figure there will be much cap room after that, but hopefully Chip England can do some work with Joseph so the Spurs can have a second ballhandler they can put on the floor against elite defenses. Manu can't be that offensive initiator any more off screens.

[twincam]

The ONLY way they will win it all next year is with a real big man that is physical. Splitter is NOT the answer. Period

[cjw]

Not sure about this. It took two key injuries in the west for the Spurs to make the finals. Not gonna line up like that next season.

You really think we were going to lose to that mess of a Lakers team? We have swept four of the last six west series we've played in. Thunder, who knows what happens if Westbrook plays, but they are MUCH WORSE than they were last year. They're going to have two marginal draft picks to show for Harden after this season.

[Darius Bieber]

You really think we were going to lose to that mess of a Lakers team? We have swept four of the last six west series we've played in. Thunder, who knows what happens if Westbrook plays, but they are MUCH WORSE than they were last year. They're going to have two marginal draft picks to show for Harden after this season.

True, but when talking about next season remember... The Spurs are getting even older. This was their year. This was their chance.

[cjw]

What is over??

Top 3 in the west is over?? They will be contenders again next year. No way the Heat win next year they are ripe for an ass kicking..

Right. Allen may retire and no way they can retain guys like Birdman. Going to be on the scrapheap yet again trying to win one more for Lebron before The Decision 2.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm really unsure of what I want from Manu but I am leaning toward retirement. I don't trust Pop not to lean on him too hard if he comes back. I'm not sure though.

[dbreiden83080]

Not sure about this. It took two key injuries in the west for the Spurs to make the finals. Not gonna line up like that next season.

2?????????????????

You mean 1.....

[Bill_Brasky]

Leonard with one more year under his belt will be a beast. If Green can learn to dribble and finish, he becomes very valuable.

It all depends on Duncan at the end of the day.

[ElNono]

As for Manu, I do believe it's time for him to ride off into the sunset. His body has already started breaking down on him, and his skills are in significant decline. His turnovers have become more frequent and it's killing this team. He continues trying to make the great play or great pass, when a good play or good pass would suffice. Despite all that his competitive fire burns bright. He only knows one way to play and unfortunately he's not going to change is style. I just think it's time for the Spurs to move on from him, but I know Pop will not. I expect him back wreaking havoc on the Spurs turnover rate.

If Manu wants to come back, he needs to play the Neal role. Which he can do. Kawhi should be able to move into the Big 3.


I hope Manu is back and that they can resign Splitter for a reasonable price and teach him to keep the fucking ball high when getting a pass. God Miami murdered him whenever he put the ball low. Don't figure there will be much cap room after that, but hopefully Chip England can do some work with Joseph so the Spurs can have a second ballhandler they can put on the floor against elite defenses. Manu can't be that offensive initiator any more off screens.

Agree.

[dbreiden83080]

Right. Allen may retire and no way they can retain guys like Birdman. Going to be on the scrapheap yet again trying to win one more for Lebron before The Decision 2.

Pacers will be ready to take them out next year and don't count out the Bulls with Rose healthy.. The East will be really good next year..

[ElNono]

I'm really unsure of what I want from Manu but I am leaning toward retirement. I don't trust Pop not to lean on him too hard if he comes back. I'm not sure though.

I want him back, but this is a legitimate fear, tbh... kinda like Finley...

[dbreiden83080]

for Lebron before The Decision 2.

Lebron is going to flee back to Cleveland.. He will try and repair that relationship and win them a few rings once he realizes Wade is all done..

[lowdown]

Make no mistake about it, getting to the NBA Finals is an incredible grind. After all, it took the Spurs six long years to get back. It's not that easy and some teams never get there. We can't assume that the Spurs are earmarked for a return trip next year because they got there this year.

Having Kawhi and Danny are superb building blocks. They are emerging players at their positions and Kawhi is quite possibly a star on rise. As good as this tandem is, the Spurs need more of that. The Spurs one or two more contributing role players, who can begin to integrate themselves and possibly emerge into the team's next set of stars. If they can make the right moves in the offseason, they can continue stocking the cupboard with via the draft and low-cost free agent signings.

As for Manu, I do believe it's time for him to ride off into the sunset. His body has already started breaking down on him, and his skills are in significant decline. His turnovers have become more frequent and it's killing this team. He continues trying to make the great play or great pass, when a good play or good pass would suffice. Despite all that his competitive fire burns bright. He only knows one way to play and unfortunately he's not going to change is style. I just think it's time for the Spurs to move on from him, but I know Pop will not. I expect him back wreaking havoc on the Spurs turnover rate.

Splitter is a huge enigma. I believe the wants to be back and I believe the Spurs want him back. He's never going to be an aggressive difference-maker in the paint. Isn't it curious that Kawhi is by far a better rebounder, at this stage, than Splitter is. That tell you all you need to know about Splitter. He'll be a good utility player, but not one to help offset the Duncan difference.

Speaking of bigs, Tim is stilll a very effective big - the best on the team and still one of the best in the NBA. Can we really expect him to continue motoring through another 2 seasons, at this pace and productivity level. He desparately needs some help. Time to move on from Bonner and Blair. Diaw is effective, but seriously flawed. Time to give Baynes a shot. It's also time for the Spurs to draft a young, athletic big. A youngster, who can block shots, rebound, defend the post and can score around the basket. The kid, whoever it is, could very well be a year or two away from playing - but with some good old Spurs seasoning, he could be ready in a year or so. However, it's important that the Spurs get this young, unknown big into the pipeline now - even if it means moving up in the draft to get one. Besides, he'll always have Duncan as a mentor, role model and on-court tutor.

As for backup PG, I'm comfortable with Joseph. I just think Pop and staff need to entrust him to run the offense totally, instead of deferring to Manu to do so. Manu's presence with the second unit is stunting his development. And he all know that Manu no longer needs to be the secondary ball-handler.

Internal growth worked last offseason, but the Spurs need to focus on continuous roster ugrades to fill necessary holes. After all, two of their Big Three are getting older and declining. Meanwhile, the rest of the conference is always getting better, which means the Spurs must strive to get better too.

[Arcadian]

Yeah, of course. The Spurs just came within one rebound/free throw of winning a championship, which is more than anyone on earth gave them a chance of doing. They already proved everyone wrong just by coming that close. That was all settled 2 days ago. The rest was just the details.

The new Big 3 is Duncan/Leonard/Parker. With that core, we should be favorites to repeat as WC champs for sure. Things haven't looked this good for the Spurs in a while. It's weird saying that in 2013, but it's true.

[lowdown]

This

[TD 21]

I'm not ready to rule out a semi-bounce back season from Ginobili. Too often now, people write off players of or above this caliber prematurely. It was done with Duncan and Garnett and to a lesser extent, Bryant (not to the national media or casual fan, but the hardcore fans knew he had been in decline for a while, only to at least somewhat rebound this season). Granted, with Duncan and Garnett, it was more health related, but still. Wade, Nowitzki, Gasol and to a lesser extent Nash, all deserve the benefit of the doubt as well.

That being said, either way, obviously they need a reliable backup PG. I could see Joseph potentially becoming that in the regular season and maybe even early in the playoffs, depending on match-ups. But can you honestly imagine him having to initiate the offense and make plays on this stage a year from now? I can't. Even if the Heat don't make it back next season (and they probably won't), it'll be an elite defense in their place either way, whether it's the Pacers or Bulls.

[DDS4]

Hell, I thought the Spurs were done when they got swept in 2010 by the Suns. I'm never counting out the Spurs until TD retires.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

They will be back.

:tu

[Budkin]

I'll always believe.

[L.I.T]

You don't tear apart a team that was 5 seconds from a championship. You do give it two more shots.

That said, the bench needs size at the guard and wing positions. I'm not what you do with Splitter. He's still valuable, but he's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt two seasons in a row that he cannot hack it under pressure.

[MannyIsGod]

One thing is for sure. We can no longer refer to Manu as part of the big 3. Thats Kawhi's spot.

[spurs10]

Thank you timvp and Kori.

[K-State Spur]

Resign Manu at discount. Resign Splitter at reasonable rate (~8M). Let Neal & Blair walk. I'd be interested in Redick as FA if his price is semi-reasonable. Team probably needs to get creative to add a shotblocker to front line rotation.

It was our own health where the luck primarily resided - injuries throughout the year but (mostly) full strength for playoffs (although I'd like to have seen full strength Parker down the stretch of Finals). Even with Kobe, Lakers barely made the playoffs and I think Spurs get past OKC even with Westbrook - they wouldn't have beaten our guys last year without Harden.

However, if the health gods are with us next year, no reason that this is the end.

[BatManu20]

I think we can compete again, but not make it back to the Finals unless we add another valuable piece. You can't rely on Timmy and Manu like that anymore. They should be great role players, (Timmy a litte moire obv) but not guys you have to try and ride for 42+ minutes in crucial games. I don't see any FA's that are going to come in and help. There's only a couple elite ones, and they won't be coming to SA. Plus Miami's going to just as good, if not better again next year. Spurs will be one year older, which means a little bit worse imo.

[baseline bum]

Man I must have counted about 5 billion hookers on New Braunfels Ave driving back from AT&T Center tonight. I mean there's always some out, but damn, guess they knew there would be 18,000 disappointed people driving down that street and needing some comfort after the game.

[Darius McCrary]

Man I must have counted about 5 billion hookers on New Braunfels Ave driving back from AT&T Center tonight. I mean there's always some out, but damn, guess they knew there would be 18,000 disappointed people driving down that street and needing some comfort after the game.

Did any of them have big blonde asian titties? They're my fave.

[baseline bum]

Did any of them have big blonde asian titties? They're my fave.

I don't know; I blew all my cash on the $9 beers tbh.

[Chinook]

I know most people hate him on this site, but I think that Ray Lewis' speech after the Ravens lost the 2012 AFC Championship Game was about the best post-defeat locker room speeches I have ever heard. I think it applies to this team as much as it applied to Baltimore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39EZdPNQVkE

Oh, and just ignore the religious reference if you're one of those people who's really turned off by that. That's really not the point of the speech.

[209Goodfella]

I just want a rebounding beast. Everything else will fall into place.

[SA210]

Only problem is Pop stands in the way

[Rapper]

Our spurs is the best team in NBA I believe we can come back to the finals next season, trust me!!!!

[Johnny RIngo]

One thing is for sure. We can no longer refer to Manu as part of the big 3. Thats Kawhi's spot.

We can't rely on Parker to be the leader either.

[crc21209]

They'll come back. They always come back, I never doubt that. I'm still too damn depressed to get past this though.

[kobyz]

What worry me about if the spurs will come back next season is the damage that this heartbraking loss of the title could cause them mentally and effect their atmosphere and will to make another run. I think the way we loss is the worst and most painfull way that could happened, it leaves to big and deep of a scar to continue with, I think the spurs because of it on their way to years of melancholy.

[TE]

We'll be back.

[DrSteffo]

Spursfan after being 1 point from another title: "We suck, let's rebuild" smh

[Darius McCrary]

The bottom line is that no team in this conference comes close to being as good as us except the Thunder. And you know what? We whoop the shit out of the Thunder this year if they're healthy. This Spurs team was absurdly good.

Next year? Who even knows if chuckbrook's knee holds up ever again.
Spurs could very well make it to the finals again.

I will never doubt this team EVER again. I just switched from lifelong pessimistic fan to lifelong spurs homer optimistic fan.

[ElNono]

The bottom line is that no team in this conference comes close to being as good as us except the Thunder. And you know what? We whoop the shit out of the Thunder this year if they're healthy. This Spurs team was absurdly good.

Next year? Who even knows if chuckbrook's knee holds up ever again.
Spurs could very well make it to the finals again.

I will never doubt this team EVER again. I just switched from lifelong pessimistic fan to lifelong spurs homer optimistic fan.

The switch back to defense is what made me a believer again. I pointed it out earlier in the season, and I thought with Kawhi and Green, and especially shedding RJ last season, we actually had the personnel to put it together.

I understand this team can't play D like they did in these playoffs for 82 games, but overall, this team can be a top 3-5 defensive team and have a higher ceiling on that department. And when you play that kind of D, you always have a chance.

[ChumpDumper]

What worry me about if the spurs will come back next season is the damage that this heartbraking loss of the title could cause them mentally and effect their atmosphere and will to make another run. I think the way we loss is the worst and most painfull way that could happened, it leaves to big and deep of a scar to continue with, I think the spurs because of it on their way to years of melancholy.:lol

[Kidd K]

I don't share the same level of confidence anymore.

I was confident from the 2010 offseasson (yes, really, when everyone was writing them off) until tonight. Actually until the end of game 6.

Now I feel like Duncan just wasted his last really good season and Ginobili seems to be rapidly declining. He's certainly become very unreliable both on court and with his health.

I will not be confident going into next season unless the Spurs add something. A replacement for Manu specifically. Manu can be brought back, but I do not want to see him in the same role he had this year. The lion's share of his duties need to be taken over by someone younger and less prone to sucking badly for weeks at a time.

Manu should just be a super role player, not a key piece. With being so injury prone and his very disappointing Finals, I think it's time to make this move. If, and only if they do that, will I have any real confidence going into the season that the Spurs will be anything more than a 2nd round and done team, or a WCF loser at best.

I forsee multiple guys phoning it in and coasting most of the year being tired of trying hard all season only to not get shit out of it in the end. I predict a lower seed and a "well we can just flip the switch" situation.

I have respect for them trying extremely hard (well most of them) for the last three seasons. I think that mental energy, effort, and reinvogoration for a title has been expended though.

[Johnny RIngo]

They will end up like the 2010 Celtics - old players breaking down every post-season. Spurs were fortunate last year and this year with their relative lack of injuries. More than likely one of Duncan/Parker/Ginobili won't be making it though a grueling a regular season.

Can we really expect Duncan to have another comeback season?
Can we really expect Ginobili NOT to get any worse?
Can we rely on Parker to lead this team despite his track record as a mediocre playoff performer?

[Darius McCrary]

The switch back to defense is what made me a believer again. I pointed it out earlier in the season, and I thought with Kawhi and Green, and especially shedding RJ last season, we actually had the personnel to put it together.

I understand this team can't play D like they did in these playoffs for 82 games, but overall, this team can be a top 3-5 defensive team and have a higher ceiling on that department. And when you play that kind of D, you always have a chance.

It starts and ends with Duncan, tbh. And I will never doubt that man, I think he can continue to play into his 40's so long as Kawhi continues to improve, and we get him more help.

That brings me to a very huge point:
Kawhi Leonard will play with the HUGEST chip on his shoulder the rest of his career after tonight.
He's gonna give us performances like his offensive 1st half and defensive 2nd half, but for WHOLE GAMES...not only whole games but WHOLE SEASONS.

Kawhi will be avenging this loss the rest of his career. In fact--where the hell is the Kawhi postgame? That's the one i really wanted to see.

[ElNono]

It starts and ends with Duncan, tbh. And I will never doubt that man, I think he can continue to play into his 40's so long as Kawhi continues to improve, and we get him more help.

That brings me to a very huge point:
Kawhi Leonard will play with the HUGEST chip on his shoulder the rest of his career after tonight.
He's gonna give us performances like his offensive 1st half and defensive 2nd half, but for WHOLE GAMES...not only whole games but WHOLE SEASONS.

Kawhi will be avenging this loss the rest of his career. In fact--where the hell is the Kawhi postgame? That's the one i really wanted to see.

Ofcourse it starts and ends with Timmy. I like the Spurs also going away from bad defensive players like Neal and Bonner. We're kinda transforming back into a defensive powerhouse.

My only concern with Kawhi is his knees. Other than that, I think he's primed to be a monster, and likely in line for the next max-deal the Spurs hand out.

[spursince#99]

Hell, I thought the Spurs were done when they got swept in 2010 by the Suns. I'm never counting out the Spurs until TD retires.



THIS

[Darius McCrary]

Ofcourse it starts and ends with Timmy. I like the Spurs also going away from bad defensive players like Neal and Bonner. We're kinda transforming back into a defensive powerhouse.

My only concern with Kawhi is his knees. Other than that, I think he's primed to be a monster, and likely in line for the next max-deal the Spurs hand out.
nahhhh brah, Kawhi's tendonitis is acute. If the Spurs have paid ANY physical trainer worth a lick, Kawhi will outgrow that. Tendonitis is a result of muscle imbalance 99% of times in kids that young. He just needs a proper therapist to point him in proper muscle building directions.
I felt his knee worries were overblown anyways, in fact, he could have been feeling knee tendonitis pain all game tonight and still played like a straight up gangsta

[SayTown]

Durant and Westbrook being better than they were two years ago and Spurs being older, no way we are done

[rascal]

Who was the other injury other than Westbrook?

Bryant

[milkyway21]

Last offseason, I wasn't confident that the Spurs could sustain a championship level team. I know everyone has written this team off again (for like the 7th offseason in a row, literally) but I'm actually more optimistic than I was a year ago.

Main reason: Kawhi Leonard's wide open potential. I don't know how good he can become but he he could develop into a great player. It's within the realm of possibilities. Hell, he was there at times during this playoff run at only 21 years old. :tu

Green didn't respond well to the Heat's defensive adjustment on him but he's legitimately a top 10-15 starting shooting guard. Sure, he's a specialist but he's really damn useful when he's able to stay within his role.

I'm going to stop counting out Duncan. Maybe he finally slows down next season. But maybe he doesn't. He looked better this year than any of the previous five or so seasons.

Bring back Ginobili and work him into a more specialized role. He's not capable of being a main distributor any longer but he's still damn valuable. As a fourth or fifth best player on your team, Ginobili is gold.

Parker has gotten better and better and better. There's a chance he finally stops getting better but with advancements in his basketball IQ and ability to manage games, he should stay elite for a couple more years.

Diaw is a solid role player. Joseph has very nice potential and could blossom if given a full season as the backup point guard. Splitter at a reasonable price is worth bringing back and is a proven, high-quality regular season player. Neal at a reasonable price would also be worth bringing back, especially if the Spurs believe his late season unevenness was due to his chronic foot injury.

The Spurs also have some roster and salary cap flexibility. If they can add even one more dependable piece, have Leonard and Green continue progressing as players, and the Big 3 avoid any drastic cliff falls, this team can get back here next season.
Write these guys off at your own peril. I believe it's a strong possibility that the Spurs can put together another great playoff push next season.

Miami won't be the same team next year. Allen will go back to Boston. LeBron to Cleveland(maybe).
Kobe will back December yet. No idea if Howard will stay as a Laker. or go East.
Memphis has a new coach. Nuggets too.
More West teams are into building new core of players.

Whereas the Spurs know the system already.

So, maybe your idea of this team to make a run again for last one push for Duncan might happen.
Just don't dismantle this team...just sign one more who can really help.

[smaka]

duncan will be back in a wheelchair. the old fart is 38!


The only fart I see here is you.

[benefactor]

I'm really unsure of what I want from Manu but I am leaning toward retirement. I don't trust Pop not to lean on him too hard if he comes back. I'm not sure though.

I want him back, but this is a legitimate fear, tbh... kinda like Finley...
:tu

I really think he should retire for this reason alone. As long as he is on the roster Pop will see him as one of the Big 3...no matter how much he has declined.

As far as the team goes I think they have a shot as the West is weak, but regardless they will be good. That alone is good to know. I'll take one more year in the Duncan era and whatever outcome accompanies it.

[therealtruth]

Got to get a decent backup PG. Tmac can possibly the SF. Get some low post scoring when teams to try to use small ball.

[TheGreatYacht]

Got to get a decent backup PG. Tmac can possibly the SF. Get some low post scoring when teams to try to use small ball.Sign Jarret Jack so that he can replace Manu and be Parker's backup. Then sign Al Jefferson so that he can carry some of the load in the post. Duncan can anchor the defense in the paint just like David Robinson did in his final years. With Manu's contract out of the way, Stephen Jackson's contract out of the away, and if the Spurs amnesty Bonner, isn't that about $30 million right there? Split that $$$ for Al Jefferson and Jarret Jack. I'm not an expert on this stuff but would this scenario work?

[kobyz]

i would like to bring back most of the team, only to replace Blair with an athletic big, maybe try to land Darrell Arthur in a trade from Memphis with a draft pick.
and i change my mind, i think we winning the title next year, always after an heartbrake we come back the year after: the Fisher shot, the Manu foul...

[Soul_Patch]

This Series was lost two days ago. It's sad. Miami left the door wide open and the Spurs couldn't walk through it. I will not watch any ABC or ESPN crap for a couple of days as they fawn over Lebron. We all know they were let off the hook ten different ways on Tuesday. Yes, they got very, very lucky. That's what pisses me off about the whole thing. They basically spit the bit and got their sentence commuted by way of 2 or 3 missed free throws and lack of defensive rebounding at the end of a game.

I don't know how we can really expect this team to get back to the finals anytime soon given the age of several core players. The stars aligned this year in so many ways - it was absolutely amazing that this roster got to the finals and should have won it. The brass ring was there and it slipped through their fingers. It's a shame..... this one hurts.

I'd like to be optimistic, but getting to this point is an unbelievable grind and so very hard. This roster really could not get to the finish line intact.

The Spurs were good enough to win it all.......they just couldn't quite get it done at the end.

BTW did the low rent Heat fans stick around til the end this time? A bunch of losers from the worst sports town in America.


Couldn't have said it better.

[jjktkk]

Last offseason, I wasn't confident that the Spurs could sustain a championship level team. I know everyone has written this team off again (for like the 7th offseason in a row, literally) but I'm actually more optimistic than I was a year ago.

Main reason: Kawhi Leonard's wide open potential. I don't know how good he can become but he he could develop into a great player. It's within the realm of possibilities. Hell, he was there at times during this playoff run at only 21 years old.

Green didn't respond well to the Heat's defensive adjustment on him but he's legitimately a top 10-15 starting shooting guard. Sure, he's a specialist but he's really damn useful when he's able to stay within his role.

I'm going to stop counting out Duncan. Maybe he finally slows down next season. But maybe he doesn't. He looked better this year than any of the previous five or so seasons.

Bring back Ginobili and work him into a more specialized role. He's not capable of being a main distributor any longer but he's still damn valuable. As a fourth or fifth best player on your team, Ginobili is gold.

Parker has gotten better and better and better. There's a chance he finally stops getting better but with advancements in his basketball IQ and ability to manage games, he should stay elite for a couple more years.

Diaw is a solid role player. Joseph has very nice potential and could blossom if given a full season as the backup point guard. Splitter at a reasonable price is worth bringing back and is a proven, high-quality regular season player. Neal at a reasonable price would also be worth bringing back, especially if the Spurs believe his late season unevenness was due to his chronic foot injury.

The Spurs also have some roster and salary cap flexibility. If they can add even one more dependable piece, have Leonard and Green continue progressing as players, and the Big 3 avoid any drastic cliff falls, this team can get back here next season.

Write these guys off at your own peril. I believe it's a strong possibility that the Spurs can put together another great playoff push next season.

My question is what kind of player would that dependable piece be? Another playmaking guard would be nice. A dependable post scorer would be great as well.

[ezau]

Resign Manu at discount. Resign Splitter at reasonable rate (~8M). Let Neal & Blair walk. I'd be interested in Redick as FA if his price is semi-reasonable. Team probably needs to get creative to add a shotblocker to front line rotation.

It was our own health where the luck primarily resided - injuries throughout the year but (mostly) full strength for playoffs (although I'd like to have seen full strength Parker down the stretch of Finals). Even with Kobe, Lakers barely made the playoffs and I think Spurs get past OKC even with Westbrook - they wouldn't have beaten our guys last year without Harden.

However, if the health gods are with us next year, no reason that this is the end.

Reddick is intriguing. He'll be perfect in an off-the-bench role because he can create and hit shots.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Spurs seriously need to explore their cap options. They need a swing to fences trade or free agent acquisition. That would involve giving up Splitter.

Sticking with the same core, even with Leonard's emergence (unless he becomes the second coming of Scottie Pippen next year), just won't do. They need a viable superstar who can score during crunch time.

OJ Mayo. He is not a Superstar but he clutch shooting off the dribble. He is probably the best FA available when it comes to shooting of the dribble. And he is IMO the 2nd best defensive SG in this FA next to Tony Allen.

[sventhedog]

remember when people were saying, "no manu, no renewal of season tickets" from season ticket holders during manu's contract year. now it wouldn't surprise me if people say "with manu, no more season tickets." lol.

i know parker and green sucked but manu has just outsucked every other spurs player in the finals.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Reddick is intriguing. He'll be perfect in an off-the-bench role because he can create and hit shots.

I rather have Mayo than Reddick. Better passer, better shooter off the dribble and better defender. Reddick is just a slightly better 3 point shooter, but Mayo would be a much improved shooter with Chip's tutelage.

[ezau]

What the Spurs need is a player like Millsap who is a perfect big against small-ball teams like Miami. We should also add an off-the-bench playmaker/shotmaker because Manu is fucking done. I'm not sure about our cap space, but if Tiago accepts a reasonable amount (6 mil/year), it's possible to get these players this offseason.

[milkyway21]

Duncan confirms he is not retiring yet. He will be back


MIAMI — After losing in the Finals for the first time in his storied career, Spurs big man Tim Duncan indicated that he planned to return for the 2013-14 season. :D


http://nba.si.com/2013/06/21/tim-duncan-retirement-san-antonio-spurs-2013-nba-finals-miami-heat/

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

What the Spurs need is a player like Millsap who is a perfect big against small-ball teams like Miami. We should also add an off-the-bench playmaker/shotmaker because Manu is fucking done. I'm not sure about our cap space, but if Tiago accepts a reasonable amount (6 mil/year), it's possible to get these players this offseason.

Manu isn't done. He was just tired. That is why I hope TMAC resigns with the Spurs. I don't expect him to be ALLSTAR TMAC but from what he showed, he is still that playmaker TMAC. With him and Manu coming off the bench shooting and facilitating, that would be a great duo.

[polandprzem]

Good the spurs will be back, I thought that was the end of the franshise :rolleyes

[dbreiden83080]

duncan will be back in a wheelchair. the old fart is 38!

Old fart that made first team all NBA carried us in game 6 and 7 and is in the best shape of his life..

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Manu needs to come back for the minimum.

[tlongII]

What is over??

Top 3 in the west is over?? They will be contenders again next year. No way the Heat win next year they are ripe for an ass kicking..

Duncan is 37. Ginobili is 35. Parker is 31. I really like Kawhi Leonard and he will be an excellent player, but it's over.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Duncan is 37. Ginobili is 35. Parker is 31. I really like Kawhi Leonard and he will be an excellent player, but it's over.

Really, do you know that Magic was 30 and Kareem was 42! when they made their Finals appearance in '89 when the league was lot tougher. Dude, the Blazers will suck again next year as well.

[dbreiden83080]

Duncan is 37. Ginobili is 35. Parker is 31. I really like Kawhi Leonard and he will be an excellent player, but it's over.

Again what is over????

Over is not winning a title or bust to me...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

My question is what kind of player would that dependable piece be? Another playmaking guard would be nice. A dependable post scorer would be great as well.

Tyreke Evans/OJ Mayo and Paul Millsap.

[dbreiden83080]

Manu needs to come back for the minimum.

With his role downgraded.. KL needs to be the new 3rd member of the big 3..

[tlongII]

Again what is over????

Over is not winning a title or bust to me...

The chance to win a title is over. You can still make the playoffs.

[tlongII]

Really, do you know that Magic was 30 and Kareem was 42! when they made their Finals appearance in '89 when the league was lot tougher. Dude, the Blazers will suck again next year as well.

That team also had James Worthy, Byron Scott, and A.C. Green. And they lost in the Finals to boot.

[milkyway21]

Good the spurs will be back, I thought that was the end of the franshise :rolleyes me too. while watching Duncan after the loss.

I still think they have a shot.

Can Holt spend a little bit more for a really good addition to the roster?

[FromWayDowntown]

tlong said it was over in 2006.

[King]

The chance to win a title is over. You can still make the playoffs.

With all due respect, people have said this for years - and they were a few seconds from winning it this year. So, that doesn't hold a lot of water. The age argument you brought up is all well and good, but the 37 year old just had his best year in the past 7, and the 31 year old was a legit MVP contender this year. The 35 y/o's contributions this year are very replaceable.

They might not get there because other teams play better, but it won't be because they're "too old."

[dallasmaverickslose]

Leonard is going to have a break-out season.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

That team also had James Worthy, Byron Scott, and A.C. Green. And they lost in the Finals to boot.

Magic and Scott were injured during that playoff run. And the Lakers still manage to make the Finals in '91 with Scott and Worthy battling injuries and just a 32 year old Magic carrying the load.

Spurs aren't done. Unless Duncan just falls off a huge cliff next season, the Spurs will be just as good if not better next year.

[Xevious]

I've been saying their shot was over for a few years now, so I'm not even going to guess anymore. The Spurs will remain competitive as long as Tim still wears the uniform.

[ezau]

Manu isn't done. He was just tired. That is why I hope TMAC resigns with the Spurs. I don't expect him to be ALLSTAR TMAC but from what he showed, he is still that playmaker TMAC. With him and Manu coming off the bench shooting and facilitating, that would be a great duo.

Manu is done as part of the Big Three, it's Kawhi's turn now. Unless Manu can tweak his game like Allen as he ages, he's just going to battle more and more injuries in the next season. Let's remember Manu has been playing non-stop basketball since he was a teenager, and he has been representing Argentina since the late 90s. He's just human and all those games are taking their toll. I want Manu to come back of course because he deserves to retire as a Spur.

[polandprzem]

RU ALL KIDDING ME?

We just lost a championship. Leading the series 1-0, 2-1, 3-2!
Game after game afterg game ppl were disappearing. From having the best bench to the 2 man contributing ...
Hell no Miami was not better then this spurs squad, not in June.

And again Heat team so fuckin cocky and won by fuckin luck. Now LeBron is God and Tim is loser again.
Last year I said that I do not belive in this team and never will again. Well this year after WCF I was almost sure we had this shit. Nope/

Gino is done. And for the playoffs we do not have a good squad tbh.
What I said b4 the finals is the spurs should not let go and play guards game but they did and it was going quite well for us until game 6 and fuckin lucky bounce.
Parker got injured :pctoss That also could be a reason we did not finished Heat. One additional day of break would give us more fuel. Do not tell me about LeBron and his minutes. The guys got different diet for sakes. :cuss

Tim had his last good season.
next year you will have Clipps with better coaching. Still GS, OKC, Chi, Indy, Grizz and who the fuck knows who else?


Screw that fuck. I don't know if I ever watch this finals again. I'm done as a fan in a way.
My spurs got burned big time

[Mugen]

Definitely agree. Spurs should be in a similar position next year, at least top 3 in the West with a chance to get back to the Finals.

It's difficult for teams to get to the Finals 4 years in a row so not sure if Miami gets back.

OKC will be the biggest impediment to another ring IMO barring any major shakeups from other teams.

Pop needs to step back and let Leonard become a playmaker on this team and to stop relying on Manu being the only other facilitator.

Spurs will be contenders again in 2014. Still pretty ridiculous.

:flag:

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

With his role downgraded.. KL needs to be the new 3rd member of the big 3..

Yeah, the vet minimum thing goes with a diminished role. And it's not that KL needs to be the new one, this postseason we all watched that transition take place.

[KuntryDude]

Knowing Pop, he will ship the future of this franchise (Kawhi) off to another team and he will own the Spurs for years to come.

[dbreiden83080]

The chance to win a title is over. You can still make the playoffs.

They will be top 3 in the west next year again..

Lots of teams make the playoffs we will be contenders..

[superbigtime]

Spurs will be back I agree, but they have to get more talent. After the big 3 (including Manu here), the middle 3 of Green, Splitter, and Leonard, there is a precipitous drop in talent. We have to get a play now ready point guard who can score; someone like Felton or Jarrett Jack or maybe even Monta Ellis.

The big 3 have been my heroes, but Manu truly is done. He can't seem to un-fuck himself and I do not trust him to make the right play down the stretch. Pop also made huge errors which cost the team and the city #5, there is no denying it. Nothing can be done about it. Pop insisted on riding a broken horse. The roster has to get better.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Manu is done as part of the Big Three, it's Kawhi's turn now.

I totally agree with you. That is why I hope TMac resign with the Spurs. He needs to visit that German doctor Kobe and Duncan went to fix his knees. From the glimpses I saw of TMAC, he was still every bit a facilitator as the Manu (not Game 6/7) that we all know. Manu needs someone off the bench to help him with this role and TMAC would be the prime candidate considering he would resign for cheap if he decided to continue playing.

[ezau]

I totally agree with you. That is why I hope TMac resign with the Spurs. He needs to visit that German doctor Kobe and Duncan went to fix his knees. From the glimpses I saw of TMAC, he was still every bit a facilitator as the Manu (not Game 6/7) that we all know. Manu needs someone off the bench to help him with this role and TMAC would be the prime candidate considering he would resign for cheap if he decided to continue playing.

Agree with you. Hopefully, the Spurs' medical staff will do wonders for Tmac is decides to resign with us. Him and Manu in the second unit will wreck havoc against opposing second units in the NBA.

[ducks]

I hope holt opens his wallet they were so close this year
but neal,green can not dribble the ball

[K-State Spur]

What's the earliest we can sign Manu to a new deal to knock down his cap hold?

[Spur|n|Austin]

I woke up this morning with confidence that the Spurs would be back next year - these two losses will take time to get over for the Spurs to get over, but just like everything else, time will make it better.

[z0sa]

Manu needs to retire. His legacy took a gigantic hit this year. It is very easy to view his career through silver and black lenses and think about how big of a role he played in his three titles, but his days of leading us in the clutch... or even over opposing bench squads... are over. I just keep imagining him leaping out of bounds baseline and passing right to the Heat n the most important possession of our season last night...

[SpurSwag]

I think the spurs will be back...in the finals tbh

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Manu needs to retire. His legacy took a gigantic hit this year.

That is why he will be back. Manu doesn't want to go out like this. He will be back for another run next year and the Spurs will be improved as well with the Cap Space they have available.

Manu goes when Duncan goes.

[booonkers]

I am confident they'll be back because of Green and Leonard. I expect them to improve tremendously over the summer again. This experience will make them hungrier and more determined to do better next year after coming so close. I also expect Manu to bounce back and not end his career on such a low note. Duncan will be Duncan and Tony will be Tony. Now let's just get ourselves another ball handler and a mobile big for next year. I hope Diaw and Tmac stick around.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

dont kid yourselves. Pop is leaving the second Tim does, and then your team will be riding the lottery for years to come. Good run, but the fat lady is singing.


yall are all welcome to root for the Utah Jazz and their exciting young core in the years to come.

You know what I love about your quote, yes the Spurs MIGHT ride the lottery for a couple of years like OKC did, and b/c THEY KNOW HOW TO DRAFT, they will be right back in the thick of things while the Jazz just keep on sucking.

[SpursDynasty21]

The Spurs will be back. They don't need to rebuild. They can build around Green, Leonard, and Parker. I don't see why anyone would think this team needs a full rebuild.

[-21-]

Regardless of who's on the roster next season, THE SPURS WILL BE BACK.

[SpurSwag]

I'm really confident for next year, more confident than I have been in a while, but damn this loss hurts so bad thinking about. I really thought we had it in Game 6, I usually try not to get ahead of myself but I really thought it was over and my eyes were starting to tear up. One more damn free throw and that wouldn't have been possible. It's dumb to dwell in the past, but it just hurts a lot right now

[Master splitter]

dont kid yourselves. Pop is leaving the second Tim does, and then your team will be riding the lottery for years to come. Good run, but the fat lady is singing.


yall are all welcome to root for the Utah Jazz and their exciting young core in the years to come.

Lol by that time spurs will have money to throw at a RFA, maybe D Favours, Gordan Hayward, kanter. Malone and Stockton, deron and booz, Al and millsapp never had a chance..what makes you think were gonna root for this group.

[HI-FI]

They will end up like the 2010 Celtics - old players breaking down every post-season. Spurs were fortunate last year and this year with their relative lack of injuries. More than likely one of Duncan/Parker/Ginobili won't be making it though a grueling a regular season.

Can we really expect Duncan to have another comeback season?
Can we really expect Ginobili NOT to get any worse?
Can we rely on Parker to lead this team despite his track record as a mediocre playoff performer?

this is how I'm feeling, though i've agreed with your takes before on Parker and Ginobili.



i guess i don't understand timvp 's confidence right now. during the playoffs he was extremely pessimistic whereas I was very positive about our chances. now though he's confident about the future and I feel like we are stuck in limbo.

a lot of things went right the past two years, and both times we've failed to capitalize on them. 2012 really sucked, in some ways worse because the refs screwed us over. But we still got outcoached by Scotty friggin Brooks. This year though was an epic collapse, and the refs gave us chances.

I'll never doubt Duncan's competitive spirit for as long as I live. Just an amazing, badass player.

I suppose my loss of confidence is because I've lost faith in the leadership under Pop. He's still a smart coach in some regards, and I can't think of a replacement at the moment. But it's going to suck losing Bud. I've seen enough now to realize Pop is shitting the bed repeatedly. As much as Manu is to blame for his all time bad Finals, Pop was the one who kept giving him tons of minutes.

I don't want to crush anyone's dreams but you have to think that perhaps we are a playoff purgatory team, which isn't a bad place to be, it's similar to Denver, Utah etc....always in the hunt. Of course those teams haven't gotten as close to a title as us. So we're better than that, but they also don't have a Duncan, who might go down as a top 5 player imho.

anyways, my emotions are still raw and I'm a bit perplexed by this whole thing, but I don't feel confident about it at the moment.

It was good reading the comment above about Kawhi and his tendonitis being common. If he can continue to get better and stronger, holy shit....

[Agloco]

Agreed.

Clearly, when your three best (or, three of your best four) players are at the stage theirs are at, it's always doubtful, but unless the Thunder take a clear step forward (as opposed to just incremental improvement from some of their young guys), at the very least, they should start next season as at least co-favorites in the West.

Two big decisions loom, however . . .

1) Splitter. I've seen all I need to see the past two playoffs to know that this is not a guy you can "go to war with". I don't care how good a fit he is, zero chance I'd tie up a bare minimum of 4/$32M in him.

2) Backup PG. The days of having Ginobili essentially play this role are over (or at least, they should be) and Joseph is far too limited a player to assume the role.

Unfortunately, I have zero confidence in them addressing these two needs. In fact, I don't think they'll make a significant move period and instead will just hope Leonard and to a lesser extent, Joseph, take a big step forward.

Well put, especially the first point. Splitter should be the 3rd big in the rotation tbh (I'm not counting Diaw as a big here).


Not sure about this. It took two key injuries in the west for the Spurs to make the finals. Not gonna line up like that next season.

I understand the pessimism here, but I think that OKC is not the threat it was to us last year. Two things have changed: Harden is gone and Leonard is a much better player than he was when we lost to them in the WCF last year. Given what Kawahi did to LeBron, I think he's got what it takes to make Durant work hard for everything he gets and slow him down just enough.

[johnnymoore]

Agreed .. It's over this spurs team Gino,Timmy done..This year was a magical run and we couldn't meet the moment - we came thisclose but didn't get it done. Next year is likely to be an epic collapse - particularly if Timmy goes down.

[MeloHype]

Please change your picture

[kaji157]

We will be in it because Tim, Tony and Manu are going to come back, work on their game even more and improve, within possible on every aspect they can.
And the rest of the team and the FO will follow that example. I don´t know how they will perform, but we have 3 of the greatest champions representing the team we are passionate for, and there is no better reward than that, not even one more NBA champions.
I believe 100% in our leaders and i will never rout against them, will be in the mix untill the wheels fall off, and if we are lucky enough the basketball gods will reward what has been one of the most humble, hardworking and exampling (not sure if this word exists) core that I have ever seen in any sport.

[tp2021]

This was their chance. Don't sugarcoat it.

All the talk of how hard it is to get back to The Finals...the Red Sea had to part for our team to even get to the Finals this year: They knew it, and they blew it. This isn't the Dynastic Spurs team; we can't just expect them to be there year after year anymore.

This core is done.

[HI-FI]

This was their chance. Don't sugarcoat it.

All the talk of how hard it is to get back to The Finals...the Red Sea had to part for our team to even get to the Finals this year: They knew it, and they blew it. This isn't the Dynastic Spurs team; we can't just expect them to be there year after year anymore.

This core is done.

even if by some miracle we win next year, and that would be a big one, it would be nice, but it will still be bittersweet to think of all the chances we've blown in the past few years.

:pop: "meh, the system needs more tweaking."

[elmanutres]

Agreed.

Clearly, when your three best (or, three of your best four) players are at the stage theirs are at, it's always doubtful, but unless the Thunder take a clear step forward (as opposed to just incremental improvement from some of their young guys), at the very least, they should start next season as at least co-favorites in the West.

Two big decisions loom, however . . .

1) Splitter. I've seen all I need to see the past two playoffs to know that this is not a guy you can "go to war with". I don't care how good a fit he is, zero chance I'd tie up a bare minimum of 4/$32M in him.

2) Backup PG. The days of having Ginobili essentially play this role are over (or at least, they should be) and Joseph is far too limited a player to assume the role.

Unfortunately, I have zero confidence in them addressing these two needs. In fact, I don't think they'll make a significant move period and instead will just hope Leonard and to a lesser extent, Joseph, take a big step forward.
i agree with you, the spurs are one of the least likely teams to have the balls to do a major trade. that hill trade was done because it was a rare trade where both parties got what they wanted. we are gonna need not just a big man but also a good pg.

[elmanutres]

dont kid yourselves. Pop is leaving the second Tim does, and then your team will be riding the lottery for years to come. Good run, but the fat lady is singing.


yall are all welcome to root for the Utah Jazz and their exciting young core in the years to come.
meh, with the way the jazz are going they will be mediocre for a long time. I don't know whats so exiting about barely missing the playoffs/barely clinching the 8th seed every year.

[booonkers]

I'm really optimistic because of Green's and Leonard's emergence. I really expect them to come back stronger next season and I'm sure our defense will keep us in the hunt. I just think we need another veteran presence to help us when our 3s our falling ala Ray Allen and Battier. Of course, another big and a serviceable wingman.

[Russ]

yall are all welcome to root for the Utah Jazz and their exciting young core in the years to come.

:lol:lol:lol:lol

You actually had me goin there for a while. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol:lol:lol:lol

You actually had me goin there for a while. :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvN71ULFrQ8&feature=c4-overview&list=UUyGpRNpJj6l8dXy10S30m5w

[Sean Cagney]

Hahahahahahah no we won't. It's okay, it's time to accept the end of an era. Terrific 15 years.

Barring a few key pieces I would have to agree. They will be damn good yes, but back to the finals? Thats tough. Terrific damn 15 years, good lord they have been good that damn long! Incredible. Tough losses here or there yes, but that just shows they got there first when most teams would die to have been there that many times.
The Spurs will be back. They don't need to rebuild. They can build around Green, Leonard, and Parker. I don't see why anyone would think this team needs a full rebuild.

They need a backup ball handler when Parker is out, that is FOR CERTAIN! That was glaring in these finals when Parker sat. They also need another BIG IMO! Not a scorer per se but someone who can rebound in the post and play some D as a backup. They were thin there as well.

[rascal]

Lmfao yeah the Lakers. Right.

Lakers were injured all year. They had their top players miss chunks of the season. They had no back court in the playoffs. Won't be a surprise if they re-load and are back next year.

[rascal]

I've been saying their shot was over for a few years now, so I'm not even going to guess anymore. The Spurs will remain competitive as long as Tim still wears the uniform.

You have been right. There hasn't been a title since 2007 with this core.

[Sean Cagney]

I know most people hate him on this site, but I think that Ray Lewis' speech after the Ravens lost the 2012 AFC Championship Game was about the best post-defeat locker room speeches I have ever heard. I think it applies to this team as much as it applied to Baltimore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39EZdPNQVkE

Oh, and just ignore the religious reference if you're one of those people who's really turned off by that. That's really not the point of the speech.After a loss that is a great damn speech! He said some real stuff in there. I wish we had someone on our team who could do that after a loss and try to get them hyped again or make them feel better, all I saw was sadness which made it ten times worse :(
Lakers were injured all year. They had their top players miss chunks of the season. They had no back court in the playoffs. Won't be a surprise if they re-load and are back next year.

I agree, if DWIGHT stays though. Oh yeah that Kobe guy too, how healthy will he be? When will he come back and how much at that age will this effect him.

[Twenty1Lik3aBoss]

Tim Duncan is FAR FROM over in my view, of course your hearing this from a die hard fan and let me say this, i watched every game and the finals game 6 he was masterful...but you can somewhat thank POP for pulling Duncan out, but again mistakes are made it happens nobody's perfect. Duncan has 'no plans' to retire and so hes gonna honor his contract it looks like 1 year i think right? Honestly when i saw his press conference i laughed cause it reminded me just how much competitive personality hes got.... I also think that people judge him based on his age when he clearly shows he can still 'hang' with the rest of em. As for the haters 4-1 is nothing to be ashamed about, hes been great for so many years and he finally hits a brick wall and everyone jumps on him? greatness can't always hold an undefeated streak, sooner or later something happens.... but anyways Duncan will come back we'll see how he does but i believe in him. I think hes the greatest player ever with or without rings, and hes got 4 so there ya go. Finally.... the road to the playoffs will be something, the road to the finals will be harder and more stretched out because of the recovery of the competition. Everyone gets healthy and so you have a battle to face, but lebron can't feel pretty light when hes got rose and rondo and granger looking at his 'lucky ride' as he should be extremely worried... my 2 cents.... DUNCAN G.O.A.T.

[beachwood]

Have to say this loss was tough, but for some reason I'm optimistic because of one Kawhi Leonard. This guy is so damn good and he isn't anywhere near his ceiling.

I have no idea how great Kawhi can be, this Finals gave glimpses, but as a Spurs fan I'm fully on board to see where he goes. He's the future and now the post Big 3 era doesn't look so bleak.

[AFBlue]

They'll be back...in San Antonio. Way too many unknowns to say for sure that they'll be back in contention. I love Kawhi's potential and desire to be great, but they have so much flying in the face of a repeat season...namely age and health. They could opt to bring back the same core next year, including guys like Splitter and Neal, and I'm still not sure they'd have enough to get back.

I'd like to see them take a different direction this summer than they took last year. S&T Splitter in lieu of overpaying and get back assets in return. Part with Neal. Sign (or trade for) a starting-caliber front court player. Bring back Manu at a role player cost and reduce his role/minutes. Integrate De Colo and Baynes into the rotation. Draft a wing player to back up Kawhi. Oh and Kawhi...make him a featured component of the offense because he's ready.

[ace3g]

What worry me about if the spurs will come back next season is the damage that this heartbraking loss of the title could cause them mentally and effect their atmosphere and will to make another run. I think the way we loss is the worst and most painfull way that could happened, it leaves to big and deep of a scar to continue with, I think the spurs because of it on their way to years of melancholy.

Well how did the Spurs respond after the events in 2004 and 2006.

[Sean Cagney]

dont kid yourselves. Pop is leaving the second Tim does, and then your team will be riding the lottery for years to come. Good run, but the fat lady is singing.


yall are all welcome to root for the Utah Jazz and their exciting young core in the years to come.Get real, your team is full of failures and never won a damn title.

[ace3g]

The Spurs will be back next season for a couple of reasons:

- Spurs re-devotion to defense

- Kawhi's exponential development

Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer (https://twitter.com/24writer) 11h (https://twitter.com/24writer/status/348482599804612608) Coach Pop said Kawhi basically did what he did this year without many plays being called for him. “He’ll be getting more plays,” in future.

- CJ has a lot of promise at the back up PG spot

- Splitter is still useful against the big teams like Memphis.

- Baynes full training camp

- Addition by subtraction with some of the roster

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Spurs need sign a player(s) that can handle the ball and attack the basket. When shots aren't falling you need players who are comfortable attacking the basket.

They also need to find a true back up SF; for 2 reasons - give Kawhi some rest and it would be nice when we go small to have 2 true SFs out there.

[Tim_duncan21]

Kawhi really looks promising, hopefully he delivers when he gets more touches or when the defense of the opposing team focuses on him. Green should expand his offense and maintain his 3point shooting but yeah his 3 point shooting role alone has been very impressive as a jump shooter. I hope Manu, Diaw and Tim returns next year. Hopefully Baynes gets some minutes so he can lessen the minutes for Duncan in the regular season. And Splitter too, hope he comes back in a reasonable price and improve his game.

[Vash StampedE]

Yes sir!!!! Drive for 5 is still on next season. (It is supposed to be Drive for 6, but oh well)
This ongoing offseason, one very vital move that I think the team needs to make is to allow Kawhi to have a bigger role in the offense. I think we and Pop have seen enough in Kawhi's play to make him at least the 2nd option in the team's offense. And I'm quite confident that Pop will, as stated in his post-Finals interview. By doing this, the team could take away the heavy scoring load off Tim but we'll still expect the ball to be thrown to him on the post or for him to his jumpshots from time to time.

Player development should continue, obviously. One player that I want to mention is Danny Green. I don't believe he is already a top 10-15 shooting guard, as stated by timvp, not without an acceptable dribbling skills. Miami's adjustment of forcing him to put the ball on the floor really took away the Spurs advantage and to add to that, he struggles passing when double-teamed.

As for the free agent signing, I do hope the Spurs sign a solid playmaker i.e Calderon. I still want Manu to finish his career in SA and I can't picture him wearing a uniform other than the black and white. But if he ends up retiring or be in another team, I wouldn't be surprised based on his play of late. But it sure would be heartbreaking. I also wouldn't mind Paul Millsap. In my opinion, a good complimentary player to Tim - has perimeter shooting and a good rebounder.

[SpurYank]

For Pete's sake! We won this thing, realistically. We didn't because of freaky circumstances that have absolutely nothing to do with our team. And what do our adept fans have to say. WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS TEAM. Were you asleep during our run.

As far as I am concerned, if we bring back this team intact, with a year under our belt, we'll be back to the finals.

Go watch some baseball and wait for the football season to start.

[DJ Mbenga]

Im not so sure. They probably lose to okc if westbrook is heqlthy. They have no shot against okc next year. They have a developed jackson, internal improvement of ibaka and durant. Youth like lamb. They also have a lottery pick to replace trash like thabeet.

[phxspurfan]

Spurs need one more playoff caliber big man (like a Perkins type) and a backup ball handler or for Joseph to do well in summer league and blossom into a real backup PG. If Parker is the only playmaker and Manu is relied upon again, we lose. If Duncan is the only dependable playoff big again, we lose.


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If Oberto comes in and coaches Baynes and Baynes develops quickly into a good serviceable big man, and Joseph works on his game and his knowledge of the Spurs system over the summer and blossoms into a true backup PG, we have an absolutely awesome shot at a championship. Because then we get rid of Blair, Bonner and McGrady and bring in a new wing a backup big. We could be really good if so.

[dbreiden83080]

Im not so sure. They probably lose to okc if westbrook is heqlthy. They have no shot against okc next year. They have a developed jackson, internal improvement of ibaka and durant. Youth like lamb. They also have a lottery pick to replace trash like thabeet.

They beat OKC easily this year with Westbrook.. Spurs played so well in the playoffs..

[spurtech09]

I think the spurs will win the nba championship next yr.......this yrs nba finals was rigged....weird series....all a storyline.....spurs is a better team than miami

[dunkman]

The Spurs will be able to attract a top FA, because they have money to spend and that player could put the Spurs over the top.

[3 Legged Dog]

True, but Spurs needed perimeter defense that possession as well. It was a gamble that didn't pay off well at all.

Up 5 with 20 seconds to play is NOT the time to gamble.

[3 Legged Dog]

Agreed. There are plenty of guys on this team I'd want in my foxhole when the going gets tough, Splitter is not one of them. I still think we should resign him but nothing more than 8-9M/year. I'd love to see what Baynes can give us next year.


I would NOT pay 8 - 9 million per year to a guy that I would not feel comfortable "going to war with."

[Sean Cagney]

Our team is full of a young core that is gonna be relevant for a whole lot longer than your team of chokers.

LOL CHOKERS! A Jazz fan talking about Chokers. 4 titles to your 0 titles, first round exit! Swept last year hahahhaa. Get the fuck outta here.

[Keepin' it real]

Duncan had a borderline miraculous season for his age. What are the odds he can come anywhere close? I think the odds are just as good that he experiences a Ginobili-like plummet in performance. With that comes the end of championship runs. Still a strong and exciting team, but not championship material.

[spurraider21]

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