View Full Version : T-Wolves: Can't wait to get Dwight this summer
Lincoln
06-27-2013, 03:59 PM
Him and dirk compliment each other perfectly tbh
Floyd Pacquiao
06-27-2013, 04:00 PM
Double D Dynasty!
MeloHype
06-27-2013, 04:01 PM
Dwight is going to Houston, nobody wants to play in Dallas
DisAsTerBot
06-27-2013, 04:05 PM
twolves, fuck yeah!!!
N0 LyF3 ScRuB
06-27-2013, 04:08 PM
Why would you want him after seeing him in Orlando and LA? The dude is an attention whore.
baseline bum
06-27-2013, 04:09 PM
Him and dirk compliment each other perfectly tbh
:cry Jungle Fever Frontcourt ecstasy :cry
Lincoln
06-27-2013, 04:16 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=9427945
On phone, too lazy to type or copy and paste but there's some good info of Dwight to Dallas in there
Lincoln
06-27-2013, 04:17 PM
Why would you want him after seeing him in Orlando and LA? The dude is an attention whore.
Cause dirk finna get old and we need a new guy even if he is a bitch made faggot
JamStone
06-27-2013, 04:22 PM
Dwight would fit well playing next to Dirk, but they'd still need a legitimate perimeter playmaker. Just Dirk and Dwight and has-beens like Marion and VC isn't exactly a championship recipe. I don't even think it puts them up to legit contender status without one high level perimeter playmaker.
DPG21920
06-27-2013, 04:24 PM
Dwight would fit well playing next to Dirk, but they'd still need a legitimate perimeter playmaker. Just Dirk and Dwight and has-beens like Marion and VC isn't exactly a championship recipe. I don't even think it puts them up to legit contender status without one high level perimeter playmaker.
Marion won't even be there if Dwight is. He pretty much has to go for them to get Dwight (it's possible they can without him, just easier to do with him gone).
Killakobe81
06-27-2013, 04:25 PM
Dirk and Dwight do work well but he is going to Houston ...much easier there. Easier coach, he wont pass up the fun and gun style in Houston. RC is actually a REAL coach.
baseline bum
06-27-2013, 04:26 PM
Marion won't even be there if Dwight is. He pretty much has to go for them to get Dwight (it's possible they can without him, just easier to do with him gone).
They should have enough money to offer Howard $19-$20 million starting if they salary dump Carter (expiring contract) or if OJ Mayo opts out.
baseline bum
06-27-2013, 04:27 PM
Dirk and Dwight do work well but he is going to Houston ...much easier there. Easier coach, he wont pass up the fun and gun style in Houston. RC is actually a REAL coach.
Good point; Bible Kemp shit all over his last real coach.
DPG21920
06-27-2013, 04:29 PM
They should have enough money to offer Howard $19-$20 million starting if they salary dump Carter (expiring contract) or if OJ Mayo opts out.
They would need both of those to happen (which could be likely). With Mayo opting out they would have about 17M, they would need Carter to be moved as well.
Lincoln
06-27-2013, 04:35 PM
Carter has been great in Dallas his 2 seasons here so idk why the hate. I'd bring him back for cheap and he seems to like it here. Mayo has to go tho and we still have a huge hole at PG.
Yall really think Dwight wants to be part of a high tempo 3 point chucking offense?
baseline bum
06-27-2013, 04:36 PM
They would need both of those to happen (which could be likely). With Mayo opting out they would have about 17M, they would need Carter to be moved as well.
Are you counting Brenda against their cap number? They should have a little over $16 million with cap holds figured in (for open roster spots) and with Marion, Mayo not opting out and no one salary dumped (except their draft pick), assuming the reported guess of a $60 million salary cap for 2013-14. Isn't the cap hold around $480K for every open slot under 11, or am I wrong there?
DPG21920
06-27-2013, 04:37 PM
Carter has been great in Dallas his 2 seasons here so idk why the hate. I'd bring him back for cheap and he seems to like it here. Mayo has to go tho and we still have a huge hole at PG.
Yall really think Dwight wants to be part of a high tempo 3 point chucking offense?
That won't be the offense with Dwight there. They will push when they can, but the point is they have floor spacers, like in ORL. That's how you surround Dwight to win.
DPG21920
06-27-2013, 04:37 PM
Are you counting Brenda against their cap number? They should be a little over $16 million with cap holds figured in (for open roster spots) and with Marion, Mayo not opting out and no one salary dumped (except their draft pick), assuming the reported guess of a $60 million salary cap for 2013-14. Isn't the cap hold around $480K for every open slot under 11, or am I wrong there?
The #13 pick has a cap hold of $1,655,300, but Dallas are reportedly trying to move it. The theory that it can be attached to Shawn Marion's final season (which he surely will not opt out of) seems fantastical; nevertheless, it seems Dallas is pretty intent on moving the pick. And even if they aren't, a clause in the 2011 CBA may save them. Teams with unsigned first round picks can, if all parties want, file documents with the league agreeing not to sign the player that season, which in return removes their cap hold for the year. (This rule was used by Dallas last year on Petteri Koponen, and was also used by Chicago on Nikola Mirotic.) So the #13 pick's cap hold is not included here.
O.J. Mayo is a logical certainty to opt out of his $4,200,900, which would thus turn into a $4,824,000 cap hold. The status of other cap holds is less certain; for the purposes of the above number, it is assumed that Chris Kaman ($9,600,000), Anthony Morrow ($7,600,000), Roddy Beaubois ($5,568,333), Elton Brand ($3,990,950) and Mike James ($884,293) are all renounced, while Koponen once again has his cap hold ($880,600) expunged. Brandan Wright ($884,293) surely won't be renounced, however, and while Darren Collison's cap hold of $5,798,360 is slightly in the way, it's not exhorbitant, so it is assumed it will only be renounced if needs be (i.e. if the signing of a big time free agent necessitates it). It is renounced in the below calculation as a means of assessing a realistic maximum cap space amount for the Mavs, yet that does not mean it surely will be.
Dallas also has two unguaranteed contracts; Josh Akognon ($788,872, fully unguaranteed until December 1st) and Bernard James ($788,872, fully unguaranteed until July 15th); for the purposes of this calculation, it is assumed that Akognon will be waived and James won't.
All this, then, leaves Dallas here:
Dirk Nowitzki: $22,721,381
Shawn Marion: $9,316,796
OJ Mayo: $4,824,000 (cap hold)
Vince Carter: $3,180,000
Jared Cunningham: $1,208,400
Brandan Wright: $884,293 (Cap hold)
Jae Crowder: $788,872
Bernard James: $788,872
Roster charge: $490,180
Roster charge: $490,180
Roster charge: $490,180
Roster charge: $490,180
Total = $44,884,462 = $13,615,538 in cap room
This is a very variable figure for all of the reasons mentioned above; Marion's to-be-adjusted contract, the status of the #13, possible trades of Marion and/or Cunningham, etc. The status of Mayo is also fairly significant - the day he leaves to sign elsewhere will open up an extra $4,333,820 in cap room, or, if he stays, the day he re-signs will take up a big chunk of the $13.6 mil. Nevertheless, while Dallas doesn't have as much cap room to throw about as others, they're in the game.
http://www.shamsports.com/2013/06/the-amount-of-cap-room-teams-will.html
baseline bum
06-27-2013, 04:42 PM
The #13 pick has a cap hold of $1,655,300, but Dallas are reportedly trying to move it. The theory that it can be attached to Shawn Marion's final season (which he surely will not opt out of) seems fantastical; nevertheless, it seems Dallas is pretty intent on moving the pick. And even if they aren't, a clause in the 2011 CBA may save them. Teams with unsigned first round picks can, if all parties want, file documents with the league agreeing not to sign the player that season, which in return removes their cap hold for the year. (This rule was used by Dallas last year on Petteri Koponen, and was also used by Chicago on Nikola Mirotic.) So the #13 pick's cap hold is not included here.
O.J. Mayo is a logical certainty to opt out of his $4,200,900, which would thus turn into a $4,824,000 cap hold. The status of other cap holds is less certain; for the purposes of the above number, it is assumed that Chris Kaman ($9,600,000), Anthony Morrow ($7,600,000), Roddy Beaubois ($5,568,333), Elton Brand ($3,990,950) and Mike James ($884,293) are all renounced, while Koponen once again has his cap hold ($880,600) expunged. Brandan Wright ($884,293) surely won't be renounced, however, and while Darren Collison's cap hold of $5,798,360 is slightly in the way, it's not exhorbitant, so it is assumed it will only be renounced if needs be (i.e. if the signing of a big time free agent necessitates it). It is renounced in the below calculation as a means of assessing a realistic maximum cap space amount for the Mavs, yet that does not mean it surely will be.
Dallas also has two unguaranteed contracts; Josh Akognon ($788,872, fully unguaranteed until December 1st) and Bernard James ($788,872, fully unguaranteed until July 15th); for the purposes of this calculation, it is assumed that Akognon will be waived and James won't.
All this, then, leaves Dallas here:
Dirk Nowitzki: $22,721,381
Shawn Marion: $9,316,796
OJ Mayo: $4,824,000 (cap hold)
Vince Carter: $3,180,000
Jared Cunningham: $1,208,400
Brandan Wright: $884,293 (Cap hold)
Jae Crowder: $788,872
Bernard James: $788,872
Roster charge: $490,180
Roster charge: $490,180
Roster charge: $490,180
Roster charge: $490,180
Total = $44,884,462 = $13,615,538 in cap room
This is a very variable figure for all of the reasons mentioned above; Marion's to-be-adjusted contract, the status of the #13, possible trades of Marion and/or Cunningham, etc. The status of Mayo is also fairly significant - the day he leaves to sign elsewhere will open up an extra $4,333,820 in cap room, or, if he stays, the day he re-signs will take up a big chunk of the $13.6 mil. Nevertheless, while Dallas doesn't have as much cap room to throw about as others, they're in the game.
http://www.shamsports.com/2013/06/the-amount-of-cap-room-teams-will.html
They can just renounce Mayo and Wright, so their cap holds are meaningless towards the Mavericks' capspace. Looks like I underestimated things using last year's $480K open slot hold now that it's $490K though.
Lincoln
06-28-2013, 05:21 PM
I jinxed us last time but I believe Dwight will come
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2013, 05:26 PM
I jinxed us last time but I believe Dwight will come
Nice to dream.
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2013, 05:27 PM
Ohh I see what ya did therrrrrreeeeeeeeeee
Rogue
06-28-2013, 08:28 PM
I jinxed us last time but I believe Dwight will come
I'd rather not though. Drama queen wouldn't have much to deliver us. Just a solid defensive big but I'd rather have Dalember for 1/3 or 1/4 his price, or even taken the gamble on bynum rather than a broke-back nigga who's gonna have 8 kids to pay child support for
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