Garnett, Pierce and Terry to Brookyln for Gerald Wallace.

[cd021]

Interesting...

I hope they crush Miami in the playoffs.

lot of big name players to manage

Starters
Williams
Johnson
Pierce
Garnett
Lopez

Bench
Terry

To a rookie coach, that's a gift and a course. Hopefully the East is much less of a cake walk with the Pacers, Bulls, Brooklyn, possibly the Knicks all getting better.

The Spurs just need to keep pace with younger teams like OKC, GSW (I think they will make a big jump) but they are as is a lock for a top 3 seed baring catastrophe.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Not with Jason Kidd as coach LOL

[BatManu20]

Miami will be in the Finals again next year. Book it.

[Buddy Holly]

NBA forum tbh.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I think Chicago, Indiana and Brooklyn have chances to beat Miami. It really will be interesting to see.

[DPG21920]

That's what happens when you have an owner that doesn't have a budget. Crazy amount they will pay for that team, but tremendous opportunity to win. Have to tip your hat to them.

[Bruno]

What are the specifics of the trade?

[Knoxxx]

WTF how does that $ work?

ON the bright side, we didn't want those guys coming over to the Clippers with Doc!

[montgod]

Chris_Broussard: sources confirm Nets/Celts trade that will send KG, Pierce, J Terry to Nets for 1st rounders in 2014, 2016, 2018 and K Humphries, G Wallace, Reggie Evans, Tornike Shengalia, Keith Bogans going to Boston.

Crazy lineup of DWilliams, Pierce, JJohnson, Garnett, Lopez with Terry off bench

[DPG21920]

What are the specifics of the trade?

BKY Gets: KG/PP/Terry

BOS Gets: Gerald Wallace/Humphries/Bogans via S&T/Evans/2014 1st/2016 1st/2018 1st

[ducks]

3 draft picks
but they will not be lottery picks

[ducks]

wallace has 30 million left on his deal
boston will have no capspace

[Samr.]

So boston goes to brooklyn for wallace?

And yet stern vetoes a chris paul to LA trade? Right.

[thunderup]

Another superteam in the Least. I hope they kill each other.

[watertorture]

Deron, Jet, Garnett, Pierce, Humphries, Lopez, Joe Johnson have possibilities.
Kidd is an obstacle.

[Robz4000]

Nets are still going to be playoff fodder tbh. Only teams with a chance to dethrone Miami are Indy and Chicago, but I fully expect Miami to get to their 4th consecutive Finals.

[tesseractive]

3 draft picks
but they will not be lottery picks
By 2016/2018 they could be -- they're relying on old guys.

[montgod]

So boston goes to brooklyn for wallace?

And yet stern vetoes a chris paul to LA trade? Right.

See details above

[thunderup]

So boston goes to brooklyn for wallace?

And yet stern vetoes a chris paul to LA trade? Right.
Using that logic, Stern should've vetoed the trades involving Lebron and/or Bosh to Miami.

[ducks]

NBA forum tbh.

grow the helll up

[tesseractive]

wallace has 30 million left on his deal
boston will have no capspace
They're rebuilding. Might as well hit the cap minimum with crappy players, play their young guys, and tank for the draft.

[cd98]

Boston positioning itself for Wiggins/Parker. Such tankers.

[montgod]

Deron, Jet, Garnett, Pierce, Humphries, Lopez, Joe Johnson have possibilities.
Kidd is an obstacle.

No Humphries... He went to Boston

[timvp]

Well, at least the Heat should have some competition in the East. I still think the Heat would easily beat the Nets but these Nets should be better than the 2013 Pacers.

If the Nets had a coach that would limit minutes during the regular season, I'd be worried about the Brooklyn. But with Kidd, I'd be really surprised if he doesn't run that team into the ground prior to the playoffs.

[ducks]

james is getting older he is do for an injury

[cd021]

NBA forum tbh.

TBH? Why would people think you were lying about your post. It affects the Spurs, enemy of our enemy is our friend. Brooklyn got better and has size to challenge the Heat.

[cd021]

No Humphries... He went to Boston

I heard Evans but ESPN omitted both as of now. Can't become official for 2 weeks lot of moving parts.

[Buddy Holly]

grow the helll up

Ironic.

[Bruno]

BKY Gets: KG/PP/Terry

BOS Gets: Gerald Wallace/Humphries/Bogans via S&T/Evans/2014 1st/2016 1st/2018 1st

WoW, quite a good deal for Boston especially if the picks protections aren't really strong. Nets could be a lottery team in 2016 or 2018.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

What's funny is I bet Garnett and Pierce are joining Brooklyn just to beat that backstabbing faggot Ray Allen in the East LOL

[exstatic]

2 old farts for the corpse of Wallace's career and his $30M contract, plus three hamburgers on Tuesday. A couple of rentals and a lot of bad picks.

The end.

[cd021]

Boston positioning itself for Wiggins/Parker. Such tankers.

They're gonna have to be worse than that with Rondo and Green. Thats still better than what the Kings and Phoenix have.

[exstatic]

They're gonna have to be worse than that with Rondo and Green. Thats still better than what the Kings and Phoenix have.

The absolute worst team rarely gets #1. They just have to be really bad, not unspeakable. Leave that to the Bobcats->->->Hornets.

[cjw]

By 2016/2018 they could be -- they're relying on old guys.

By 2017-2018, Williams (who can barely jump now) will be 33. Pierce and KG long gone and the team still in cap hell. Pretty good bet that will be a top 10 pick. Meanwhile, Boston's probably going to try and ship out Rondo now. Team won't be competitive for at least 3 years.

[ducks]

i would think boston would trade their point guard

[ducks]

The absolute worst team rarely gets #1. They just have to be really bad, not unspeakable. Leave that to the Bobcats->->->Hornets.

if boston is the worse team adam will get them the first pick

[exstatic]

Stern leaving just in time. His two flagship franchises both going into the toilet. :lol :lmao

[tesseractive]

The absolute worst team rarely gets #1. They just have to be really bad, not unspeakable. Leave that to the Bobcats->->->Hornets.
Indeed. Under no condition do you want to become the Bobcats/Hornets. At that point, drafting high doesn't even help because your team is so dysfunctional.

[spursnatic]

Another superteam in the Least. I hope they kill each other.With this trade they have no Bench left..So to call it a Super Team is a little too much

[thunderup]

With this trade they have no Bench left..So to call it a Super Team is a little too much
I read somewhere that Terry would be coming off the bench. Pick up a couple of vets + shooters and Brooklyn is very good.

[Dverde]

The Celtnets may be unstoppable if they stay healthy. I think the Heat should move Bosh while they still can.

[tesseractive]

With this trade they have no Bench left..So to call it a Super Team is a little too much
They'll line up some ring-chasers like the Heat did.

[Darius Bieber]

In my opinion, the 2013-2014 Brooklyn Nets will be the 2012-2013 Lakers. Looking amazing in the Pre-Season, will cause a lot of hype, but will self destruct during the season and struggle to make the Play-Offs.

[cd98]

They're gonna have to be worse than that with Rondo and Green. Thats still better than what the Kings and Phoenix have.

Trust me. Rondo is taking his time coming back. Green will be given the green light to shoot threes. Team will play no defense.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

In my opinion, the 2013-2014 Brooklyn Nets will be the 2012-2013 Lakers. Looking amazing in the Pre-Season, will cause a lot of hype, but will self destruct during the season and struggle to make the Play-Offs.

...?

The Lakers didn't win a game in the preseason...

[EIC]

Using that logic, Stern should've vetoed the trades involving Lebron and/or Bosh to Miami.

LeBron and Bosh went to Miami via free agency, not trades.

[Darius Bieber]

...?

The Lakers didn't win a game in the preseason...

I'm not talking actual pre-season games, I meant causing hype with a lot of expectations for the season.

[thunderup]

LeBron and Bosh went to Miami via free agency, not trades.
They were sign and trade transactions, for your information.

[cd98]

In my opinion, the 2013-2014 Brooklyn Nets will be the 2012-2013 Lakers. Looking amazing in the Pre-Season, will cause a lot of hype, but will self destruct during the season and struggle to make the Play-Offs.

Disagree in Lakers comparison. Lakers failed bc Kobe won't be no 2, and Dwight just turned 13 maturity-wise. If Nets fail, it will be age and inexperienced head coach. I think Kidd will be better than most, though.

[ducks]

kg,pierce and terry played together
d williams will have to adjust to them but with jason kidd as a point guard this transaction will not be bad

will kidd not over play the old guys for early wins to impress his boss

[EIC]

They were sign and trade transactions, for your information.

Correct you are. My mistake.

The question, though, is whether Stern nixed the Paul-to-Lakers deal as NBA commissioner or as acting GM of the then-NBA acquired New Orleans Hornets.

[crc21209]

Good move for the Nets. You get rid of crap in Bogans, Humphries, Wallace, and you get back 3 veterans who still have enough in the tank to be a contender in the East...

[crc21209]

And besides....Pierce and Garnett have short contracts as well...

[cd021]

Trust me. Rondo is taking his time coming back. Green will be given the green light to shoot threes. Team will play no defense.

Rondo got injured in January didn't he? He should be back for the start of the season. Either way they will be bad. I'd expect them to maybe move him. He's already 27 (I think) you are going to contend in next 3 seasons unless you get some awesome picks and great free agents.

[Russo21]

Brooklyn did a great job. Nets fans couldn't have hoped for anything more. Awesome starting 5, how they mesh together we will wait and see. JKidd has a great mind for basketball and im sure he'll do big things with that team.

[Russo21]

You all have to admit if we nabbed Garnett and Pierce you'd all be over the moon. Also though, it seems Brooklyn have gone all in, win now mode. Kinda weird for a team with no bench who just got together. But they've given the team a great shot to succeed.

[tmtcsc]

People are sleeping on Chicago. I don't think Miami makes the Finals next year. 4 straight trips ? No way. Too much going against them.

[Prime Time]

That awkward moment when the Coach and 6th man were teammates a year ago

[ElNono]

I read somewhere that's a $100m roster, and the Nyets would be paying circa $80m in luxury tax... crazy...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Green just became every fantasy player's "sleeper" pick.

He'll put up 20/7 but shoot 41%. :lmao

[Poolboy5623]

Owner is a billionaire^..play money.

[DOS CHAINZ]

I like the move! Fk MIAMI!!!
Now hope Chicago can land Aldridge & move Deng for somebody.

[justinandimcool]

can't spell Brooklyn Nets without TOSB

[timtonymanu]

People are sleeping on Chicago. I don't think Miami makes the Finals next year. 4 straight trips ? No way. Too much going against them.

You could be right, but the NBA in general looks very weak right now. Of course there's still the offseason.

[TD 21]

Good trade for both teams. For the Celtics, the latter two picks could be lottery picks. For the Nets, they had already dug the hole so deep, that it was worth it to deep it even deeper, because at least now they have an outside shot at a championship. I still can't imagine them winning it, but before this they had absolutely no shot.

The starting lineup looks good on paper and it is, but it's also severely lacking in athleticism/speed/quickness, while the bench is terrible and they don't have the money to upgrade it, either. Even if Terry bounces back, Teletovic and minimum salary scrubs are likely to fill out the remainder of the rotation (guys like Turiaf, Duhon, Wilkins, etc.).

[TheGreatYacht]

Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656)_Broussard: sources confirm Nets/Celts trade that will send KG, Pierce, J Terry to Nets for 1st rounders in 2014, 2016, 2018 and K Humphries, G Wallace, Reggie Evans, Tornike Shengalia, Keith Bogans going to Boston.

Crazy lineup of DWilliams, Pierce, JJohnson, Garnett, Lopez with Terry off benchDamn, they lost a lot of depth. They lost a few good rebounders in G Wallace, K Humphries (even though he had a shit*y year), and Reggie Evans. I always thought Keith Bogans was a joke when he played for the Spurs LOL. I wonder if they will resign Andreay Blatch.

[Russo21]

If Mikhail Prokhorov woke up tomorrow with Peter Holt type money he'd kill himself.

[The Reckoning]

people have to realize we aren't in the 2000s anymore. these players are at the end of their careers. itll be LA 2.0.

[slick'81]

Still a nice 5 Williams,Johnson,pierce,garnet and lopez

[crc21209]

Their bench is left with CJ Watson, Andray Blatche, Marshon Brooks, Plumlee now and some of the foreign guys they have.. :lol

[Marrow]

New York Bestseller "How to Haemorrhage your Future" written by Billy King

[Dverde]

I think they are a better group than last year's LAL. Heat are probably scared. They have been winning titles by having more talented players. Birdman ain't going to rescue their season again.

[Dverde]

Their bench is left with CJ Watson, Andray Blatche, Marshon Brooks, Plumlee now and some of the foreign guys they have.. :lol They will get some ring chasers for the vet minimum. CJ Watson and Terry are solid guards. They need another big. I think Blatche is going to leave for more money.

[Russo21]

Reggie Evans: 11rpg in 24 minutes last year. Any chance he gets waived seeing as though Boston will now suck? He's a bit of a spaz offensively but its not like he takes more then 5 shots per game and its not like we need him to score. He's a bit short but we could use his rebounding, strength and tenacity. Lets not forget we needed just 1 fucking rebound more and we'd be champions but whatever. Might be nice to have a strong interior presence unlike pansy Splitter and the Tweeners Bonner and Blair.

[cd021]

That awkward moment when the Coach and 6th man were teammates a year ago

Two years ago but really funny.

[cd021]

They will get some ring chasers for the vet minimum. CJ Watson and Terry are solid guards. They need another big. I think Blatche is going to leave for more money.

I doubt it. He stays another year and plays with a high profile team. More people watching more opportunities to improve his stock.

[cd021]

Reggie Evans: 11rpg in 24 minutes last year. Any chance he gets waived seeing as though Boston will now suck? He's a bit of a spaz offensively but its not like he takes more then 5 shots per game and its not like we need him to score. He's a bit short but we could use his rebounding, strength and tenacity. Lets not forget we needed just 1 fucking rebound more and we'd be champions but whatever. Might be nice to have a strong interior presence unlike pansy Splitter and the Tweeners Bonner and Blair.


Pop wouldn't put in in a game late in that situation. I like him but not for the spurs. If Turiaf is available i'd love him as a 4th or 5th big.

[ducks]

nets will not be in the lottery in 2 years
the owner will overpay for a big time fa

[Prime Time]

Two years ago but really funny.

Really? I could have sworn Kidd and Jet were both with the Mavericks during 2012

[8FOR!3]

So you've got

D-Will
Iso Joe
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Brook Lopez

6th man: Jet

That's sick. They need a few solid guys off the bench.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

So you've got

D-Will
Iso Joe
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Brook Lopez

6th man: Jet

That's sick. They need a few solid guys off the bench.
They're in cap hell though. They only have the mini-MLE this summer, which is ~$3M. Unless they dump one of their starters for nothing, they're gonna fuck themselves over in the luxury tax. They've thrown away all cap flexibility and half their picks for the next few years.

[ducks]

I could see a few vets go there at a shot to beat the heat

[DPG21920]

They're in cap hell though. They only have the mini-MLE this summer, which is ~$3M. Unless they dump one of their starters for nothing, they're gonna fuck themselves over in the luxury tax. They've thrown away all cap flexibility and half their picks for the next few years.

By including Wallace in the deal, they improved their cap number for 2015. Also, PP is off the books for 15M after next season. KG off for 12M the season after. That will be 27M off the books in a hurry if things don't work out basketball wise which is solid.

[crc21209]

News this morning is that Marshon Brooks will now be headed to Boston in the trade instead of Reggie Evans...

[DPG21920]

Really, no way around it: It was a very good trade for BKY no matter what. Especially with their pocket books.


The combined 13’-14’ salaries of Kris Humphries, Gerald Wallace, MarShon Brooks, Keith Bogans, and Kris Joseph next season are about $24.1 million (this assumes that the Nets would not have re-signed Keith Bogans and would have guaranteed Kris Joseph’s contract).

Compare that $24.1 million number with what the Nets will now owe Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Jason Terry ($32,992,069) and you get a difference of about $8.9 million, i.e. the Nets will have about $8.9 million more in committed salaries next season with the trade than they would have had without it.

How does this impact the Nets salary cap situation for next season? It doesn’t. The Nets were so capped out already that adding more salary simply means that owner Mikhail Prokhorov will have to pay a higher luxury tax bill and a higher team salary.

We can pencil in roughly $94.7 million in committed salaries for Brooklyn next season (this not only assumes that C.J. Watson opts-out, but it also doesn’t count any potential Nets signings such as Andray Blatche or Bojan Bogdanovic this offseason).

In 2014-2015, the Nets would have an additional $6.1 million in committed salaries with the trade than without it for that season. It would make their total committed salaries stand at around $80 million (this assumes the Nets sign both Tornike Shengelia and Tyshawn Taylor to their qualifying offers). Once again, it would leave the Nets well over the cap and still over the tax-line in either scenario.

In 2015-2016, things start to change: instead of having more committed salary with the trade than without it, the Nets will actually decrease the amount of committed salary. The $10,105,855 that is owed to Gerald Wallace in that season is now on the Celtics. It would leave the Nets committed to around $59.4 million (assuming Mirza Teletovic signs a qualifying offer) as opposed to $69.6 milliob with Wallace on the roster for that season.


It could wind up being good for BOS, but we won't know that for a while. They really didn't get any cap relief, the players they got aren't that good or even good trade assets (maybe Hump's expiring) and their picks are of questionable value at the moment. Not a bad trade for BOS, but hard to tell how it will all work out for them right now.

[cd021]

Really? I could have sworn Kidd and Jet were both with the Mavericks during 2012

Two seasons ago 11-12,

12-13 kidd was a Knick, Terry was a Celtic

[Prime Time]

Two seasons ago 11-12,

12-13 kidd was a Knick, Terry was a Celtic
Psh I said last year, Nothing about last season :p: (Justifying, I know). AND TECHNICALLY in this EXACT time last year, they were both with the Mavericks. Since they didn't become free agents until July. I'm putting way too much thought into this :lol

[cd021]

Psh I said last year, Nothing about last season :p: (Justifying, I know). AND TECHNICALLY in this EXACT time last year, they were both with the Mavericks. Since they didn't become free agents until July. I'm putting way too much thought into this :lol

Did I just get lawyed?! damn...:blah

[Spurs Brazil]

I read somewhere that's a $100m roster, and the Nyets would be paying circa $80m in luxury tax... crazy...

:wow:wow:wow

[Russo21]

Their owner is an angry Russian Billionaire. I dont think he gives a fuck how much tax he pays. He probably wipes his ass with the amount of $ Peter Holt has.

[Agloco]

:wow:wow:wow

Lakers now have competition for the most fiscally irresponsible franchise label.