2013 General Free Agent Signings/News and Trades

[TD 21]

Sam Amico: Hearing the Pistons could make serious charge, and be serious contender, for free agent swingman Andre Iguodala (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html) (Nuggets). #NBA Twitter SamAmicoFSO (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)

Ken Berger: As expected, the Mavs' O.J. Mayo will not exercise his player option and will be an unrestricted free agent on July 1 (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html). Twitter @KBergCBS (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)

Ken Berger: Also as expected, Charlotte's Ben Gordon has decided to pick up his $13.2M player option and will not hit the free-agent market (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html). Twitter @KBergCBS (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)

Marc Stein: I'm told Grizzlies G Jerryd Bayless, in mild surprise, has elected to invoke $3.1 million player option for next season to stay in Memphis (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html) Twitter @ESPNSteinLine (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)

[DPG21920]

Marc Stein: In a bigger surprise than Boris opting into his final year, he opted for a salad in the buffet line instead of the breaded shrimp

[ace3g]

Gregory Popovich ‏@FakeCoachPop (https://twitter.com/FakeCoachPop) 20h (https://twitter.com/FakeCoachPop/status/350423707019264001) Diaw's opting out. Sea World has more cap space.

Gregory Popovich ‏@FakeCoachPop (https://twitter.com/FakeCoachPop) 19h (https://twitter.com/FakeCoachPop/status/350425159229902850)
Nevermind, Diaw's opting-in. This would be awkward if I possessed emotions.

[ColinB]

Ben Gordon is going to be making 13.2 million dollars. Classic.

[spurtech09]

spurs should get oj mayo...he could take gary neals place

[TheGreatYacht]

Sam Amico: Hearing the Pistons could make serious charge, and be serious contender, for free agent swingman Andre Iguodala (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html) (Nuggets). #NBA Twitter (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)Sam (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7024)AmicoFSO

Ken Berger: As expected, the Mavs' O.J. Mayo will not exercise his player option and will be an unrestricted free agent on July 1 (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html). Twitter @KBergCBS (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)

Ken Berger: Also as expected, Charlotte's Ben Gordon has decided to pick up his $13.2M player option and will not hit the free-agent market (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html). Twitter @KBergCBS (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)

Marc Stein: I'm told Grizzlies G Jerryd Bayless, in mild surprise, has elected to invoke $3.1 million player option for next season to stay in Memphis (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html) Twitter @ESPNSteinLine (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)I always thought that Iguodala is a little overrated and overpaid so no surprise that he opted out. The big questions are is he going after more money or is he going after a championship since he's not a little kid anymore?

Not surprised about OJ Mayo either considering the internal problems that he had with Rick Carlisle.

No surprise about Ben Gordon either. He knows that he will not earn that type of money elsewhere.

I am disappointed in Jerryd Bayless. I thought he was one of the few good candidates out there to sign with the Spurs and take the backup PG role.

[BatManu20]

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[dbreiden83080]

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Back to China..

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[CGD]

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Fail.

[BatManu20]

Scratch that on JR Smith. Swish should be more clear in his tweets.

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[Maddog]

Doubt that
Looks like they are going into full rebuild mode

[BatManu20]

Fail.

Fify ^

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

My younger brother told me he saw a few tweets last night, that reported the San Antonio Spurs team is the favorite landing spot for both Al Jefferson, and Iggy. I was too lazy to look into it.

[crc21209]

Cuz Marc Stein is so skinny himself right? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

My younger brother told me he saw a few tweets last night, that reported the San Antonio Spurs team is the favorite landing spot for both Al Jefferson, and Iggy. I was too lazy to look into it.That would be awesome. Even though that mentioned scenario wouldn't solve the backup PG situation I would still make that deal in a heartbeat.

[crc21209]

Sam Amico: Hearing the Pistons could make serious charge, and be serious contender, for free agent swingman Andre Iguodala (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html) (Nuggets). #NBA Twitter SamAmicoFSO (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)

Ken Berger: As expected, the Mavs' O.J. Mayo will not exercise his player option and will be an unrestricted free agent on July 1 (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html). Twitter @KBergCBS (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)

Ken Berger: Also as expected, Charlotte's Ben Gordon has decided to pick up his $13.2M player option and will not hit the free-agent market (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html). Twitter @KBergCBS (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)

Marc Stein: I'm told Grizzlies G Jerryd Bayless, in mild surprise, has elected to invoke $3.1 million player option for next season to stay in Memphis (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html) Twitter @ESPNSteinLine (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)

Epic fail if Iggy ends up in Detroit. That team has NOTHING going for it.....

[DPG21920]

Cuz Marc Stein is so skinny himself right? :lol

:lol I just made that up. Not a real tweet.

[angelbelow]

:lol I just made that up. Not a real tweet.

So no salad for Boris.. :depressed

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

:lol I just made that up. Not a real tweet.

:lol That would be ridiculous is MS actually tweeted that.

[Spur-Addict]

My younger brother told me he saw a few tweets last night, that reported the San Antonio Spurs team is the favorite landing spot for both Al Jefferson, and Iggy. I was too lazy to look into it.

Get real, not enough cap space.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

That would be awesome. Even though that mentioned scenario wouldn't solve the backup PG situation I would still make that deal in a heartbeat.

You're right about that. What concerns me, is that I'm not even sure that Pop & RC think they have a back-up PG problem. I like Cojo, but it just doesn't look like he could ever consistently run an offense. I still believe De Colo is best back-up, he showed promise though some games, and it could be a matter or playing time and confidence that was holding him back.

Either way, that tweet had me kind of excited.

[spurraider21]

Get real, not enough cap space.

favorites for each, individually. not favorites to land them together.

either way, i'm not a fan of dumping a big contract onto iguodala

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Get real, not enough cap space.

Well, I'm only telling you what I heard/saw. & nobody said anything about BOTH players coming to SA, just that both players would love to end up here.

[Spur-Addict]

Well, I'm only telling you what I heard/saw. & nobody said anything about BOTH players coming to SA, just that both players would love to end up here.

I think we need a creator more than a defender so I'd rather have Jefferson. That being said, I'll believe it when I see it.

[BatManu20]

If Howard decides to stay with the Lakers, then the luxury tax is expected to force the Lakers to consider waiving Gasol via amnesty. In that case several options would be available, including this: the Spurs could re-sign Manu Ginobili (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3380/index.html), renounce Tiago Splitter (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/4306/index.html) and have money under the cap to put in a competitive claim for Gasol. In that case, it could be argued that Gasol would have a greater impact on the championship race than Howard.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/news/20130628/nba-free-agency-2013-dwight-howard-josh-smith/#ixzz2XYJlHTJe


Highly unlikely obviously but that'd be sweet tbh.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

*sigh* I wish.

[TheGreatYacht]

If Howard decides to stay with the Lakers, then the luxury tax is expected to force the Lakers to consider waiving Gasol via amnesty. In that case several options would be available, including this: the Spurs could re-sign Manu Ginobili (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3380/index.html), renounce Tiago Splitter (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/4306/index.html) and have money under the cap to put in a competitive claim for Gasol. In that case, it could be argued that Gasol would have a greater impact on the championship race than Howard.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/news/20130628/nba-free-agency-2013-dwight-howard-josh-smith/#ixzz2XYJlHTJe


Highly unlikely obviously but that'd be sweet tbh.Yup. Gasol would fit in perfect with the Spurs system.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

I agree 100%.

[BatManu20]

In other news, this Bill Simmons/Doc Rivers saga is getting good..

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[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)While convo with Jazz expected, source told Y! free agent PG @mowilliams (http://twitter.com/mowilliams) wouldn't return if he's not the starter. Utah drafted PG Trey Burke

[look_at_g_shred]

Fuck!! Monday can't come fast enough!!

[3 Legged Dog]

spurs should get oj mayo...he could take gary neals place

He would start in front of Dairy (2-19) Queen

[siraulo23]

who's the spurs first option if they decided not to go with tiago?

[CGD]

who's the spurs first option if they decided not to go with tiago?

Plan 1: Pray Howard stays in Lakerland, lakers Amnesty Pau, and spurs outbid every other amnesty bidder.
Plan 2: sign a trade Tiago, trade him with future 1sts and another asset for Aldridge.
Plan 3: sign al Jefferson or Paul Milsap
plan 4: Hope Diaw and Baynes can hold it down, pick up Robinson, and sign and trade splitter for some value.

[milkyway21]

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regarding Miami, don't know what happened to Heat's interest in Greg Oden

[TheGreatYacht]

regarding Miami, don't know what happened to Heat's interest in Greg OdenThey really can't talk about until July 1st.

[jyra]

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I would love to see him on the Spurs if Tiago doesn't return.

[TheGreatYacht]

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I would love to see him on the Spurs if Tiago doesn't return.I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Spurs jersey if we can get him for cheap.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Maurice Speights has declined player option with Cleveland and will become a free agent, league source tells Y! Sports.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Why the hell would the Celtics want Dirk when they're trying to rebuild..? Lol Danny Ainge sucks.

[Chinook]

Dirk, Josh Smith and Jeff Green on the same team? What would be the point of that?

Boston's failing at rebuilding AND and building a winning team at the same time with that mentality.

[Cklbmk]

Dirk probably gets sent to 3rd team. They just want that value

[Prime Time]

The sight of Nowitzki probably horrifies the Heat, we should hope Dirk goes to Boston.

[benefactor]

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[DPG21920]

Mavs aren't trading Dirk. Stop with the nonsense. If the Mavs trade for Rondo it will be to pair with Dirk.

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[Prime Time]

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James using dat vertical to jump out of the league.

[BatManu20]

^ he's going back to China for more money apparently.

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[Marrow]

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I would love to see him on the Spurs if Tiago doesn't return.

He's looking for a multiyear deal around 3-4 years and he's already 32. Not sure how much the spurs should offer but I think it would be a good pick up if we could get for say 5-6 mil per

[ace3g]

Mary Stevens ‏@marypazstevens (https://twitter.com/marypazstevens) The #Magic (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Magic&src=hash) will not make a qualifying offer to Dequan Jones. He will become an unrestricted free agent.

[99 Problems]

Mavs & Celtics have discussed Rondo. Anyone know what Mavs got in way of picks coming up?

[cd021]

James using dat vertical to jump out of the league.

Classic

[Kindergarten Cop]

Pop already said the Spurs are not going to make any major changes.

Where did you see/hear this?

[td4mvp2k]

Spurs are going to bring everyone back including Splitter. The only one that might not be back is Neal and they will probably sign someone from the summer league to replace Blair. The big FA signing your looking for is going to be a player from the summer league or a mediocre FA to replace Neal if he leaves. Pop already said the Spurs are not going to make any major changes.

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[playbonner15]

James using dat vertical to jump out of the league.


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[Sean Cagney]

Spurs are going to bring everyone back including Splitter. The only one that might not be back is Neal and they will probably sign someone from the summer league to replace Blair. The big FA signing your looking for is going to be a player from the summer league or a mediocre FA to replace Neal if he leaves. Pop already said the Spurs are not going to make any major changes.I can guarantee this is what happens. I can see it now.

[SpursRock20]

Spurs are going to bring everyone back including Splitter. The only one that might not be back is Neal and they will probably sign someone from the summer league to replace Blair. The big FA signing your looking for is going to be a player from the summer league or a mediocre FA to replace Neal if he leaves. Pop already said the Spurs are not going to make any major changes.

So they are not going to use their cap room? Come on man.

[slick'81]

So they are not going to use their cap room? Come on man.
This is the first time in a min. Spurs will have cap room with Duncan and parker signed but that room will probably just go to splitter and manu .

[TheGreatYacht]

Spurs are going to bring everyone back including Splitter. The only one that might not be back is Neal and they will probably sign someone from the summer league to replace Blair. The big FA signing your looking for is going to be a player from the summer league or a mediocre FA to replace Neal if he leaves. Pop already said the Spurs are not going to make any major changes.
This is the first time in a min. Spurs will have cap room with Duncan and parker signed but that room will probably just go to splitter and manu .
Are you saying all this because you've lost faith in the FO signing free agents or do you actually endorse this mentality? If you're scenario plays out, then the Spurs will not get out of the western conference next year. Mark my words. I feel sorry for Tim Duncan.

[The Reckoning]

spurs theme song is officially niggas in paris

[milkyway21]

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I don't think Howard will sign with Dallas with no star PG beside him..Rondo will be a Celtic. And Chris Paul already send messages he will remain with the Clippers.


Chris Paul’s representatives have told teams not to even bother pursuing the point guard when free agency begins at 12:01 a.m. ET Monday because he will re-sign with the Los Angeles Clippers, according to league sources.
http://fullyclips.com/2013/06/29/report-chris-paul-to-re-sign-with-clippers/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Trending

[AFBlue]

ESPN reporting Chris Paul's reps are telling teams not to bother making a pitch...Paul expected to re-sign with Clips.

Obviously that's not a shocker, but it does impact the Dwight sweepstakes because one of the possible scenarios was a Paul-Howard tandem in ATL. Howard may still be a possibility there, but it seems less likely.

[BatManu20]

^ no way Dwight goes to ATL. It's either LA, Houston, or Dallas imo, and I'd say HOU are the favorites right now.

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[BatManu20]

FA needs hurry up and start tbh. Ready to see where these guys end up.

[ace3g]

Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
(http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)The New Orleans Pelicans will likely pursue restricted free agent Chris Copeland, league source confirms. The Pelicans like the 29-year-old.

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Fun free-agent rumble: Word is Rob Pelinka will have Andre Iguodala, OJ Mayo & other clients in one place for teams to come visit Monday

[playblair]

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[BatManu20]

^lol

[BatManu20]

As expected, David West has 0% chance of leaving Indy.

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[Ditty]

Not surprised on D West, he seemed to find a home & had a great series against Miami. Not too sure if any of it had to do with it because he was in a contract year, but I guess we will see this year he has always seemed like a competitor. He was the really the only serviceable big man I was really interested in this year big man free agent pool as they're not a lot of guys that catch my eye. If the Spurs plan on sucking a year or two when Duncan & Pop are gone in a few years, I don't see how big Al fits into this if we are trying to rebuild unless he gets a 2-3 year deal around $8 million a year, but I think someone will pay $10+ & throw in a extra year which he ain't worth it at this point of Manu & Duncan's career. Even if he played like crap against the Heat I don't see any reason why we shouldn't bring Tiago back as I thought he played really well against the Gasol brothers & Randolph. I believe 3 years $21 million would be a fair contract so if Duncan decides to play out his contract and retire at the end of the 2015 season, Tiago could be a nice expiring contract.

[ace3g]

Emiliano Carchia @SportandoBasket
(http://twitter.com/SportandoBasket)Knicks eyeing Lamar Odom and Elton Brand sportando.net/eng/usa/nba/58… (http://t.co/5c8MMIdXZt)

[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)Pelicans strongly interested in signing free agent forward Andre Iguodala to join old Sixers teammate Jrue Holiday, sources tell Y! Sports.

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Rockets, I'm told, still exploring trades for Aaron Brooks and/or Carlos Delfino that must be consummated today to avoid releasing them

Sam Amick @sam_amick
(http://twitter.com/sam_amick)Couple free agency tidbits-Teams I'm hearing in the mix for Andre Iguodala: Denver, Hawks, Pistons, Kings, Mavs, Pelicans, Warriors, Rockets

[coachmac87]

Fuck. Spurs aren't tied to anybody???

[Samr.]

Fuck. Spurs aren't tied to anybody???

Ginobili, Splitter, Neal, Diaw...

[Ron Swanson]

Ginobili, Splitter, Neal, Diaw...

:lol

[johnpaulwall21]

This usually happens after a finals appearance, they bring back the same exact team and hope they can squeeze another run out of tony and tim. Tims probably at home shaking his head knowing he's gotta carry splitters sorry ass again.

[DesignatedT]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 6m
Boston has waived guard Terrence Williams, team says.
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 1m
Memphis will meet with free agent guard Tony Allen shortly after start of free agency, sources tell Y! Pacers, Bucks, Knicks in pursuit.

[BatManu20]

Iguodala to the Pelicans would be a waste imo. They're not contending anytime soon, and he's almost 30. He would just waste his prime there imo.

[BatManu20]

Delfino is an interesting option. Manu might try to lure his fellow Argentinian to the Spurs.

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[BatManu20]

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[Texas_Ranger]

Rockets are interested in everybody.

[BatManu20]

Rockets are interested in everybody.

They really are. Dwight is their first priority, Josh Smith 2nd, and Bynum 3rd I assume.

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[Texas_Ranger]

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[Splits]

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He can still be amnestied, but I doubt the Spurs do that. $4m for Bonner on an expiring contract isn't horrible.

[Robz4000]

Bonner's a solid piece for a trade. Never thought he'd be waived.

[BatManu20]

Been saying it for a while. Bonner's not going anywhere. The Spurs love him too much. Pop would have a nervous breakdown if he lost his favorite player.

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[dallasmaverickslose]

Carlos Delfino anyone?

[spursince#99]

Delfino would be a major upgrade for the Gary Neal role.

[spurs10]

Delfino would be a major upgrade for the Gary Neal role. $ ?

[Texas_Ranger]

Delfino would probably want a 3 year 12 million deal. I am sure some teams can give him more, but if he wants a title he'd settle with less. Thats why I am mad cause of Matt Bonner. With his shitty money we could sign a guy like Delfino.

[benefactor]

It won't take that much. He signed for 2yrs/6 million back in 2012 and now he's on the wrong side of 30. The room exception should do the trick.

[Texas_Ranger]

it's time that Manu recruits this guy, just like Tony did with Boris.

[spurs10]

it's time that Manu recruits this guy, just like Tony did with Boris.Good call! I sure hope we make a couple of moves. His biggest obstacle coming here will be Nando and Neal I reckon.

[elemento]

Spurs have submitted qualifying offers for both Tiago Splitter and Gary Neal, making both restricted free agents.
— Jeff McDonald (@JMcDonald_SAEN) June 30, 2013 (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/statuses/351425741084303360)

[dallasmaverickslose]

Good call! I sure hope we make a couple of moves. His biggest obstacle coming here will be Nando and Neal I reckon.

I have a hunch that Neal is gonna get paid handsomely on a different squad. Just my gut feeling.

[CitizenDwayne]

I have a hunch that Neal is gonna get paid handsomely on a different squad. Just my gut feeling.

Based on some of his Finals play and the Spurs' current wing situation, that's certainly a good possibility. Let's hope it happens, imo

[dallasmaverickslose]

Based on some of his Finals play and the Spurs' current wing situation, that's certainly a good possibility. Let's hope it happens, imo

I have nothing against Neal, but I do feel it might be time to see if we can get an upgrade for the roll he plays. I think he's pretty much reached his ceiling.

[stephen jackson]

well there goes all our cap space.
jj reddick is all well get whatever

[benefactor]

Splitter will stay but Neal will likely go. Some team that misses out on another FA will throw the MLE at him.

[xmas1997]

Houston was the team that wanted him,but they are clearing out cap space to make a run at Howard.

[TheGoldStandard]

Any idea what that qualifying offer is in total for both Neal and Tiago?

[Baam]

Spurs have submitted qualifying offers for both Tiago Splitter and Gary Neal, making both restricted free agents.
— Jeff McDonald (@JMcDonald_SAEN) June 30, 2013 (https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/statuses/351425741084303360)

So do we even have the capspace to absorb Robinson's salary now?

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Matty celebrating.

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[spurs10]

Will be a long 10 days! I wish we knew what was going on in RC's head. He saw the same games we did, both good and bad. For me, the biggest fix might be relieving Manu as the back-up point guard. If they think another training camp and year for CJ and Nando will do the trick, then we might not see much there. I can't see Tiago going anywhere, unless something insane like West came into the picture. Then we have the back-up for Kawhi. Might not have to be a true 3, the prospect of Delfino is definitely interesting. If Tiago stays for the QO, is the cap space around 12 million, before Manu's deal?

[TheGoldStandard]

I don't think we'll have cap space to do anything now aside from the MLE and LLE.. Ugh.. same old spurs thinking.. Just ride them till they all fall apart and hope for a great lottery pick

[benefactor]

Any idea what that qualifying offer is in total for both Neal and Tiago?
Neal - $1,116,099

Splitter - $4,930,000

[SpursSerb]

So when can we expect reasponses from Splitter and Neal on their QOs?

[benefactor]

So when can we expect reasponses from Splitter and Neal on their QOs?
It's safe to assume that both will sign offer sheets with other teams and wait for the Spurs to match.

[TheGoldStandard]

Neal - $1,116,099

Splitter - $4,930,000

Okay I retract my post above, maybe they'll let Tiago walk after someone exceeds that amount. They can't be chasing that guy, I just don't want to believe it. Anything is possible though when you pay Matt Bonner 4M

[yavozerb]

I have a feeling someone will offer Neal a 3+ mil contract and I cannot see the spurs matching that. I do not see a team going for broke with him cause most teams realize the spurs will match most offers, I seem him coming back at around 8 mil per year for 3 more seasons.

[stephen jackson]

Okay I retract my post above, maybe they'll let Tiago walk after someone exceeds that amount. They can't be chasing that guy, I just don't want to believe it. Anything is possible though when you pay Matt Bonner 4M


paying matt bonner 4 mill and offer tiago 5 mill
spurs are stupid sometimes.....
tiago is more valuable then boner yet only 2 mill more in spurs eyes.

the bonner love is so dumb

[benefactor]

Okay I retract my post above, maybe they'll let Tiago walk after someone exceeds that amount. They can't be chasing that guy, I just don't want to believe it. Anything is possible though when you pay Matt Bonner 4M
Anything south of 8 million will probably be matched by the Spurs, which is close to market value for a big that plays at Splitter's level.

[TheGoldStandard]

paying matt bonner 4 mill and offer tiago 5 mill
spurs are stupid sometimes.....
tiago is more valuable then boner yet only 2 mill more in spurs eyes.

the bonner love is so dumb

I want to believe that there is something go on here to keep these guys and dump them because of expiring contracts.. Well hopefully they'll let Tiago walk when he gets a 7M offer and at least say, "well we tried"

[LakerHater]

Neal's qual offer is 1.1 mil; Splitter's is 4.9

by the way, can Spurs still amnesty Bonner?

[TheGoldStandard]

Anything south of 8 million will probably be matched by the Spurs, which is close to market value for a big that plays at Splitter's level.

Damn, If only I were born being 7 feet tall I could get paid a lot for grabbing a few boards, turning the ball over and having a shitty hook.. Sorry, venting.. Ugh, not an improvement at all and can't expect an improvement unless someone offers him 10M

[024]

I can see where this offseason is going.. keep Bonner, re-sign Manu for $6 million, re-sign Splitter for $9 million, maybe keep Neal or go after Dunleavy.

Spurs standing pat again.

[TheGoldStandard]

I can see where this offseason is going.. keep Bonner, re-sign Manu for $6 million, re-sign Splitter for $9 million, maybe keep Neal or go after Dunleavy.

Spurs standing pat again.

Lets hope not unless they're know of someone in the draft that they're eyeing in 2 years success just won't happen automatically and our guys aren't getting any younger.

[Splits]

Neal's qual offer is 1.1 mil; Splitter's is 4.9

by the way, can Spurs still amnesty Bonner?

Yes they can in the next 10 days, but won't.

[TheGoldStandard]

Yes they can in the next 10 days, but won't.

4M for a guy who warms the bench and takes uncontested 3's when we're up 20

[BatManu20]

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[RD2191]

Tf

[Kindergarten Cop]

Neal's qual offer is 1.1 mil; Splitter's is 4.9

by the way, can Spurs still amnesty Bonner?


Yes they can in the next 10 days, but won't.

I believe the Spurs have until July 17th to decide whether or not to use the amnesty provision. That is a benefit, because that will give the Spurs a full week to gauge the interest in FAs and clear Bonner's contract off the books if it is needed to sign that player. If they don't see any big name FAs willing to commit, they can keep Bonner as a deadline trade candidate.

[DPG21920]

Spurs offered Neal and Tiago a qualifying offer. It's official.

[ElNono]

Well, I suspect Bonner's contract will be a trade bait... the question here is if other teams think $4m for him is too much... but after the Jack for RJ trade, you can't be too sure anymore.

[ElNono]

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[Baam]

Yeah Bonner is not getting traded and we all know it.

[stephen jackson]

if it were up to pop hed retire bonners jersey.
for spreading the floor and being a great teammate. :pop:

[baseline bum]

Sam Amico: Hearing the Pistons could make serious charge, and be serious contender, for free agent swingman Andre Iguodala (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html) (Nuggets). #NBA Twitter SamAmicoFSO (http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html)


Wow, did Dumars not learn anything from throwing those contracts at Gordon and Villenueva?

[TheGoldStandard]

Yeah Bonner is not getting traded and we all know it.

Wait till next season when he gets offered the same deal Kawhi gets.

[dbestpro]

Bonner will be kept till midseason. If we are doing bady at all he will be traded. If we are doing well, the Spurs will keep him through the end of his contract.

[BatManu20]

Spurs offered Neal and Tiago a qualifying offer. It's official.

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[baseline bum]

Bonner's a solid piece for a trade. Never thought he'd be waived.

This

[Kindergarten Cop]

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You were surprised by this? Their QOs are low, so it would be foolish not to offer it. Now we play the waiting game to see if another team signs them to offer sheets - or if we can sign a reasonable longer contract.

[Splits]

I believe the Spurs have until July 17th to decide whether or not to use the amnesty provision. That is a benefit, because that will give the Spurs a full week to gauge the interest in FAs and clear Bonner's contract off the books if it is needed to sign that player. If they don't see any big name FAs willing to commit, they can keep Bonner as a deadline trade candidate.

That's right, July 11-17 is the amnesty window

[Captivus]

The Spurs will keep Bonner, even if it means losing Tiago.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Wow, did Dumars not learn anything from throwing those contracts at Gordon and Villenueva?

You have to admit that their two main targets this year (Josh Smith and AI) are much better than Gordon and Charlie V though.

[Strategic]

350729971414732800Coat tail ray hangs on. At least he didn't try to be a leader and sign with Memphis or someone that needs him.

[ace3g]

Howard Beck @HowardBeckNYT
(http://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT)Knicks appear close to acquiring Andrea Bargnani from Toronto, per source. NY offering Camby, Novak, 2 picks (1st rd/2nd rd).

[Strategic]

:lol I just made that up. Not a real tweet.It takes a big salad loaded with dressing and a big meal covered with gravy to fill up my fat ass.

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Don't understand Mayo at all for Utah. Not when they have a better prospect in Hayward.

[DPG21920]

Howard Beck @HowardBeckNYT
(http://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT)Knicks appear close to acquiring Andrea Bargnani from Toronto, per source. NY offering Camby, Novak, 2 picks (1st rd/2nd rd).

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While Bargnani has a ton of suck in him, it will be interesting to see him play to a stud defensive big man and only be the 3rd option on offense. Also, no contract is untradeable.

[benefactor]

Howard Beck @HowardBeckNYT
(http://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT)Knicks appear close to acquiring Andrea Bargnani from Toronto, per source. NY offering Camby, Novak, 2 picks (1st rd/2nd rd).



:lol

[baseline bum]

You have to admit that their two main targets this year (Josh Smith and AI) are much better than Gordon and Charlie V though.

'Eh, everyone loved Gordon back when he was in Chicago.

[DPG21920]

:lol

I know Barg sucks, but NY has very little means to improve. Barg can score and maybe being a 3rd option instead of a lead guy will help. Likely not, but NY has very little assets and they need more help.

[ace3g]

3. Josh Smith, F, Atlanta Hawks
Smith, perhaps somewhat surprisingly, is open-minded about returning to Atlanta, one league source said. Smith and new Hawks head coach Mike Budenholzer have had some conversations since Budenholzer was recently hired. Smith, 27, respects Budenholzer's background as Gregg Popovich's longtime assistant with the San Antonio Spurs. Smith's representation is still working on trimming down a long list of interested teams to a smaller group for meetings likely to take place in Los Angeles this week. Dwight Howard's decision is expected to affect Smith's options.
5. Al Jefferson, F/C, Utah Jazz
The Jazz would like to re-sign both of their big men, Jefferson and Paul Millsap, sources said. But the price tag could ultimately be too high, especially considering Utah already has some young, promising bigs in Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter. Utah also acquired the draft rights to center Rudy Gobert. Where Dwight Howard lands will likely have an effect on Jefferson's eventual destination. Atlanta general manager Danny Ferry was a big fan of Jefferson's when Jefferson entered the draft out of high school. Dallas also is expected to be interested.
8. Tyreke Evans, G/F, Sacramento Kings, restricted FA
Evans flew to Los Angeles on Saturday to meet with agent Arn Tellem in preparation for free agency, a source said. Evans' preference is to re-sign to a long-term deal with the Kings. He recently moved into a new huge home in the Sacramento suburb of Rocklin. The 23-year-old has been spending most of his offseason in Sacramento and has been regularly working out at the Kings' practice facility. New Kings GM Pete D'Alessandro showed some interest in keeping Evans by making him a qualifying offer, which made Evans a restricted free agent.
http://sports.yahoo.com/photos/top-10-2013-nba-free-agents-1372618426-slideshow/wizards-rally-103-100-win-photo-050755162--nba.html

[Chinook]

It certainly seems like New York is preparing for life after JR Smith. With him, Evans and Mayo on the market, someone could probably be had for decent money.

It's a decent trade for the Raptors. They need good shooters to complement their chuckers. Camby is a good trade asset as well as a decent bench big. They just have to move one of their scoring wings for a better big man to pair with Valanciunas.

[Kindergarten Cop]

'Eh, everyone loved Gordon back when he was in Chicago.

Don't get me wrong, I know that both Gordon and Villanueva were sought after during that offseason - but I think many were shocked to see the deals once they were inked. The Pistons shelled out a LOT of money for an incoming FA to be their 6th man. I don't think too many will be surprised if Josh Smith gets a max deal and AI gets $10M+ per.

[benefactor]

I know Barg sucks, but NY has very little means to improve. Barg can score and maybe being a 3rd option instead of a lead guy will help. Likely not, but NY has very little assets and they need more help.
Giving up a first round pick is retarded. The Craptors were probably happy enough to have NY take his salary(you can tack on an extra 1.1 million for the trade kicker too) but talking them out of a first rounder is highway robbery.

[Texas_Ranger]

Knicks will replace a Bonner with a Bonner.

[playblair]

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[coachmac87]

I bet Blair signs with Atlanta...

[Kindergarten Cop]

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Does anyone believe a team will give more than the mini mid level exception for Blair?

[benefactor]

Blair will sit on the sidelines until the well dries up then some team left on the wall will throw a couple million a year at him.

[baseline bum]

I have a feeling someone will offer Neal a 3+ mil contract and I cannot see the spurs matching that. I do not see a team going for broke with him cause most teams realize the spurs will match most offers, I seem him coming back at around 8 mil per year for 3 more seasons.

I'd be really surprised. I think the QO the Spurs made is right around his market value.

[baseline bum]

Blair will sit on the sidelines until the well dries up then some team left on the wall will throw a couple million a year at him.

I think so too.

[Nathan89]

The bonner era continues.:depressed

[TheGoldStandard]

The bonner era continues.:depressed

He stretches the floor for 13 Minutes a game.. that's worth 4 Million.

[Dverde]

I agree, Blair will sign with Atlanta. Coach Bud played him and got results when he filled in as coach. I still think Spurs could have used him more in the playoff run.

[Texas_Ranger]

Adrian Wojnarowski Toronto is finalizing agreement to send Andrea Bargnani to Knicks for Marcus Camby, Steve Novak and 2016 first-round pick, sources tell Y!

lol

[Robz4000]

The more and more I think on it, the more I'm sure the Spurs won't do anything in the FA market. IMO Spurs are going to make some sort of trade or stand pat (sigh...).

[BatManu20]

I wish Blair the best. The guy didn't act out when he was benched or when he got zero PT. He cheered harder from the sidelines than anyone not named Patty Mills tbh. Hope het gets picked up and plays well.

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[DPG21920]

It certainly seems like New York is preparing for life after JR Smith. With him, Evans and Mayo on the market, someone could probably be had for decent money.

It's a decent trade for the Raptors. They need good shooters to complement their chuckers. Camby is a good trade asset as well as a decent bench big. They just have to move one of their scoring wings for a better big man to pair with Valanciunas.

Too bad they gave up Ed Davis. They still have Amir, but we will see how he continues to play.

[Texas_Ranger]

The more and more I think on it, the more I'm sure the Spurs won't do anything in the FA market. IMO Spurs are going to make some sort of trade or stand pat (sigh...).

This. I would be fine if the team stayed the same if our best players were 25 years old, but with Tim and Manu over 35 this team needs changes. I just don't get the Spurs FO sometimes. Tim should bitch slap someone that brought some pathetic bigs that can't help him under the rim.

[BatManu20]

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[siraulo23]

whats bargnani's contract again? lols

[Texas_Ranger]

whats bargnani's contract again? lols

2 year 22 million. :lmao

[Kindergarten Cop]

whats bargnani's contract again? lols

He's got 2 years at $23M left on his deal.

[BatManu20]

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[stephen jackson]

yall wanna hate on bargs but i bet you cant make a mix like this for tiago and he wants 7-8 mill
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-zOpCeE6zo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
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plus bargs has averaged 20+ ppg in his career.....
hes been hurt but move him to pf and pair him with tyson he wont have to worry about rebounds

[palangi]

:downspin:No wonder the spurs didn't want him...he dunks too much

[DPG21920]

Bargnani has very good athleticism for a big, very good handles. His problem on why he could never take the step into a legit top offensive option is because he never developed his mid range game. He can obviously shoot the 3, he can get to the rack and finish very well and he nail free throws. But his in between game is bad.

His defense (outside of the occasional post defense play) is bad and his rebounding is beyond awful.

[benefactor]

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lol hell fuck no.

[Texas_Ranger]

monta ellis.... damn

[loveforthegame]

Loved Ellis in GS but not for the Spurs.

[Texas_Ranger]

monta ellis is like Gary Neal that take 15 more stupid shots.

[look_at_g_shred]

monta ellis.... damn
This dude is a selfish ball-hog. At least Neal looks to pass the ball.

[benefactor]

Tyreke Evans is a much, much better option for S&T over Ellis.

[LakerHater]

Ellis can create his own shot while Tony is takin a breather!

[Texas_Ranger]

Ellis will want more than 10M, do the Spurs really have that money.

[ElNono]

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[AFBlue]

Tyreke Evans is a much, much better option for S&T over Ellis.

Hell, J.R. Smith is a better option than Ellis. At least he has legit size to play his natural position.

[AFBlue]

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Of course, effing Blazers.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

At this point, I'll take anything over going back into next season with the exact same team, only with Tim and Manu being a year older. If Monta Ellis is a realistic possibility, then you go for it. He can can score the ball and take a lot of pressure off of Tony who, right now, is our only reliable shot creator. Just depends on his asking price, which I'm sure will be way too high.

[chrhawk]

At this point, I'll take anything over going back into next season with the exact same team, only with Tim and Manu being a year older. If Monta Ellis is a realistic possibility, then you go for it. He can can score the ball and take a lot of pressure off of Tony who, right now, is our only reliable shot creator. Just depends on his asking price, which I'm sure will be way too high.

Anything over 7M a year is too much for Ellis.

[Texas_Ranger]

Anything over 7M a year is too much for Ellis.

someone will give him 12M

[chrhawk]

someone will give him 12M

That's close to what he would've gotten if he stayed with the Bucks. But he turned that down knowing he wasn't going to get that on the open market. I wouldn't go over 7M a year for an undersized inefficient scorer. But some G.M will look at his inflated stats and probably give him 9M-10M a year. If a G.M gives Ellis 12M a year, he won't have a job for very long tbh.

[BatManu20]

someone will give him 12M

Which is incredibly dumb. But yea, you're probably right.

[BatManu20]

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[Redshadows]

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Spurs draft-and-stash their first round pick for cap space and kept Matt Bonner. :wow

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Too bad Asik's contract is awful. Don't know who's going to take that on. But I'm sure some bottom-feeder team will.

[DPG21920]

Too bad Asik's contract is awful. Don't know who's going to take that on. But I'm sure some bottom-feeder team will.

Huh? He's one of the best defenders in the league for bigs and he rebounds well. He is living up to his contract IMO.

[Robz4000]

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What in the flying fuck?

[benefactor]

It's not that bad. 8 million a year is fair value for a solid starting center.

[SpursRock20]

Too bad Asik's contract is awful. Don't know who's going to take that on. But I'm sure some bottom-feeder team will.

I wouldn't mind putting Asik next to Duncan, tbh.

[elemento]

I am pretty sure a lot of teams would take Asik and that contract is not bad at all.

8m/year is good value for a defensive beast like Asik.

I would trade Splitter for Asik in a heart-beat.

[BatManu20]

Huh? He's one of the best defenders in the league for bigs and he rebounds well. He is living up to his contract IMO.

True, I should've specified. It's just backloaded. Owed $15 million in 2014. But if he can repeat last year's #'s, then it's worth it.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Huh? He's one of the best defenders in the league for bigs and he rebounds well. He is living up to his contract IMO.

I think most teams will be scared off by that poison pill - but I agree with you, some team will eagerly trade for Asik considering his size/productivity.

[benefactor]

True, I should've specified. It's jut backloaded. Owed $15 million in 2014. But if he can repeat last year's #'s, then it's worth it.
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[Richie]

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This really needs to be on everyones clipboard, the topic of Asik/Lins 'backloaded' deals comes up every week.

[dbestpro]

It seems the bad decisions that hampered game 6 and 7 have now found their way into the off season.

Bonner, 4 mil? For what he does now for the team, that is just bad business.

[BatManu20]

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:wakeup

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[Kindergarten Cop]

It's not that bad. 8 million a year is fair value for a solid starting center.


I am pretty sure a lot of teams would take Asik and that contract is not bad at all.

8m/year is good value for a defensive beast like Asik.

I would trade Splitter for Asik in a heart-beat.

I wasn't aware of the stipulation in Asik's poison pill. Thanks for clarification.

[DPG21920]

I just can't believe DET would be so stupid and trade for Lin. SMH

[ElNono]

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[benefactor]

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I think that the $8M a year is a bit deceiving (which is actually $10M/yr) considering that it is backloaded and can virtually cripple a teams cap/plans to bring in FAs.

[BatManu20]

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[Kindergarten Cop]

I wasn't aware of the stipulation in Asik's poison pill. Thanks for clarification.

[ElNono]

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Stern stepping in to save his hometown team, probably gonna make them take the picks out, tbh....

[tesseractive]

It's pretty obvious why they would ship out Asik, but why Lin?

[DPG21920]

It's pretty obvious why they would ship out Asik, but why Lin?

He's awful for them. For many reasons, but most importantly is he is a PG that needs the ball in his hands. He can't play off the ball effectively at this point in time. That's a lot of money for a bad fit and if they can bring in someone more steady and well equipped to play next to Harden, that's huge.

[Chinook]

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That tweet is misguided. Asik's and Lin's contracts are indeed 5/5/15. They just count for $8.3 Million against the cap because their original teams did not match. The Arenas provision made the Rockets offer that deal, and the terms of the offer sheet do not change based on if it's matched or not.

[Russ]

It seems the bad decisions that hampered game 6 and 7 have now found their way into the off season.

Bonner, 4 mil? For what he does now for the team, that is just bad business.

You realize, of course, that they have to pay Bonner that 4 million no matter what.

[BatManu20]

Lol Knicks doing bad business

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Werd.

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I haven't followed him too closely -- would Collison be worth a flyer as a veteran backup for Tony?

[benefactor]

Don't listen to Kennedy. More than a few times he's been wrong. I stopped following him a while back.

lol hoopsworld

[timtonymanu]

Collison is not even close to a "veteran" yet.

[Robz4000]

I haven't followed him too closely -- would Collison be worth a flyer as a veteran backup for Tony?

He's not really a vet back-up. Only been in the league a few years.

[tesseractive]

He's awful for them. For many reasons, but most importantly is he is a PG that needs the ball in his hands. He can't play off the ball effectively at this point in time. That's a lot of money for a bad fit and if they can bring in someone more steady and well equipped to play next to Harden, that's huge.
Makes sense, thanks. :tu

[playblair]

I haven't followed him too closely -- would Collison be worth a flyer as a veteran backup for Tony?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/tracey-jordan-nope.gif

[tesseractive]

He's not really a vet back-up. Only been in the league a few years.
Thanks. I don't know why I thought he'd been around for longer than that.

Still has more experience than CoJo or DeColo though.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)It is appearing less and less likely that J.J. Redick will return to Milwaukee in free agency, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[stephen jackson]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)It is appearing less and less likely that J.J. Redick will return to Milwaukee in free agency, league sources tell Y! Sports.


were getting him. obviously.... but thats it....

[Kindergarten Cop]

You realize, of course, that they have to pay Bonner that 4 million no matter what.

I could easily see a team place a bid claim on Bonner in the $2M-2.5M range, greatly reducing the amount that the Spurs would have to pay. Much, much crazier things have happened.

[BatManu20]

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[manufan10]

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[Floyd Pacquiao]

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lol who's det? sounds like your typical spurstalk poster

[Robz4000]

Was thinking it'd be more. Spurs might not be able to even do a meaningful trade like I thought.

[SpursRock20]

Was thinking it'd be more. Spurs might not be able to even do a meaningful trade like I thought.
Spurs should just let Splitter go. I have never really hated his goofy ass, but he is just too soft to play against the Heat in the finals, let alone against the Rockets or Thunder. We need a physical big to put next to Duncan.

[manufan10]

lol who's det? sounds like your typical spurstalk poster

:lol Writes for 48MoH... so he probably is like a typical ST poster.

[Big P]

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Sounds good! I would try $4 mil for Manu $8 for Splitter and $9 to split up to offer to a couple of players...unless there was someone out there who at $9 mil would be a no brainer.

[Robz4000]

Spurs should just let Splitter go. I have never really hated his goofy ass, but he is just too soft to play against the Heat in the finals, let alone against the Rockets or Thunder. We need a physical big to put next to Duncan.

No, you gotta resign him. With him, Duncan, and Leonard in the starting lineup, the Spurs have the best D in the league. That counts for a lot tbh. Spurs just need Leonard to carry more of the load offensively to make up for Splitter's shortcomings on that end. Just about any big the Spurs could get outside of Millsap or Josh Smith (the latter of whom I don't really want) would end up being benched against the Heat's small lineup too.

[SpursRock20]

No, you gotta resign him. With him, Duncan, and Leonard in the starting lineup, the Spurs have the best D in the league. That counts for a lot tbh. Spurs just need Leonard to carry more of the load offensively to make up for Splitter's shortcomings on that end. Just about any big the Spurs could get outside of Millsap or Josh Smith (the latter of whom I don't really want) would end up being benched against the Heat's small lineup too.

Bingo. I would rather have Millsap over Splitter tbh.

[Robz4000]

Millsap isn't half the defender Splitter is. I'll take Splitter's D over Millsap's O. Guy would also want more money too.

[SpursRock20]

Splitter's D is not needed against the Heat or the Thunder. His offense is. And Millsap would be able to punish the Heat for going small.