Spurs Sign Tiago Splitter to 4 year/$36 Million Deal

[BatManu20]

Wow

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[Kuestmaster]

Too fucking high.

[look_at_g_shred]

Ok there are 3 threads about Tiago. Let's just post here now....

[DesignatedT]

Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk 1m
The Spurs are going to use their five-year extension on Tiago Splitter and not save it for Kawhi?
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[DatBoyGood]

Holy fck....45 million!?

[stephen jackson]

:lmao:

[BatManu20]

Unreal

[yavozerb]

8-9 mil is exactly what most of us thought he was worth. Apparently so did his agent, the spurs, and probably all contending teams for him. It is what it is, the market spoke.

[ducks]

got it done before dw turned down houston

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

That's a lot of money

[slick'81]

9 mil per for the Brazilian star

[Robz4000]

Welp, about what I thought, but 5 years? Really?

[tesseractive]

Welp, about what I thought, but 5 years? Really?
Option years?

[spurraider21]

got it done before dw turned down houston

[look_at_g_shred]

Welcome back Tiago. Fuck the haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:flag:

[Kuestmaster]

8 mil is exactly what most of us thought he was worth. Apparently so did his agent, the spurs, and probably all contending teams for him. It is what it is, the market spoke.

it's actually 9 mil, and the chance to sign a good free agent gone too. Not good.

[ElNono]

Could be a backloaded deal... thus the many years...

[Spurs Brazil]

Not bad as Jefferson contract, but bad

[BatManu20]

Portland can't even afford him anymore? I guarantee you they wouldn't give him that kind of money. I don't see the threat. And if another team DID offer him this kind of money, I'd let him walk tbh.

[DesignatedT]

got it done before dw turned down houston

Houston going to max out Josh Smith.

[TheGoldStandard]

It boggles the mind what a 10/6 guy can get. This is a horrible deal.. Should not have been paid more than 4 years at 6M a year.

[Chinook]

Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk 1m
The Spurs are going to use their five-year extension on Tiago Splitter and not save it for Kawhi?
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It's a new contract with Bird Rights. It's not an extension, for which Splitter didn't even qualify anyway. That tweet is misguided.

[houston spurs fan]

Kelvin Cato thinks that's high.

[BatManu20]

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[stephen jackson]

rasho 2.0

[ihustle]

i think i speak for anyone who has ever actually bounced a basketball when i say FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!! !!!

[rayray2k8]

welp lol

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Well I hope Splitter puts up 15/8 next year and keeps up the solid defense.

[TheGoldStandard]

I can see it now.. Pop is going to start including him in more Pick N Roll plays, his averages will go up 12/7 for his efforts and playoffs 7/5

[Chinook]

The starting salary is just $7.8 Million. That's not much more than his cap hold, anyway.

[slick'81]

Lebron says sup tiago

[benefactor]

:cry why not the mle :cry

[SpursRock20]

B-b-b-but he's a big! He deserves this kind of money! :lol

[Bruno]

Bigmen are expensive. $9M is a little higher than what I was expecting.hoping but it's not a shocker.

[DesignatedT]

It's a new contract with Bird Rights. It's not an extension, for which Splitter didn't even qualify anyway. That tweet is misguided.

Thanks. Knew something was funny there.

[TheGoldStandard]

Well I hope Splitter puts up 15/8 next year and keeps up the solid defense.

Hahahahahaha.... he'll average 25 minutes, 10/6 maybe, that's if Duncan doesn't drop off. And at the first sight of small ball he'll be on the bench. No surprise.. THe Spurs are paying Matt Bonner 4M this season.

[baseline bum]

Glad to have Tiago back. Especially since 5 years, $45 million means his salary for next year is likely $7.5 million. That will leave a little over $11 million to resign Manu and get Kirilenko or a backup point. That could expand to over $15 million if they amnesty Bonner and Neal signs elsewhere.

[TheGoldStandard]

Bigmen are expensive. $9M is a little higher than what I was expecting.hoping but it's not a shocker.

He plays like he's 6'2

[Spurs9]

The f*** is wrong with the spurs :lmao

[slick'81]

Wonder if the spurs were fearing an offer sheet of 10+

[Joyrider]

I was gonna make a thread about this but does Kawhi deserve max money now with this deal?

[ElNono]

Glad to have Tiago back. Especially since 5 years, $45 million means his salary for next year is likely $7.5 million. That will leave a little over $11 million to resign Manu and get Kirilenko or a backup point. That could expand to over $15 million if they amnesty Bonner and Neal signs elsewhere.

What do you mean? You're not gonna panic and meltdown? :lol

[Spurs9]

There are currently 180 users browsing this thread. (93 members and 87 guests) :lol

[TheGoldStandard]

Glad to have Tiago back. Especially since 5 years, $45 million means his salary for next year is likely $7.5 million. That will leave a little over $11 million to resign Manu and get Kirilenko or a backup point. That could expand to over $15 million if they amnesty Bonner and Neal signs elsewhere.

Think this means they give Manu 6 or 7M for 2 years.. 14M/2Years and they offer someone a MLE

[Spurs Brazil]

Bigmen are expensive. $9M is a little higher than what I was expecting.hoping but it's not a shocker.

Is there enough money to offer a good deal for AK47?

[ducks]

Glad to have Tiago back. Especially since 5 years, $45 million means his salary for next year is likely $7.5 million. That will leave a little over $11 million to resign Manu and get Kirilenko or a backup point. That could expand to over $15 million if they amnesty Bonner and Neal signs elsewhere.

yeap
also I think it would have went higher once dw turns down a few teams

[monkeypunk]

How does this affect how much we have to throw at a FA?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Glad to have Tiago back. Especially since 5 years, $45 million means his salary for next year is likely $7.5 million. That will leave a little over $11 million to resign Manu and get Kirilenko or a backup point. That could expand to over $15 million if they amnesty Bonner and Neal signs elsewhere.

I didn't think of that, I forgot about how contracts get bigger as the years go on. If the Spurs land a good free agent + Gino, I'd be very pleased with this.

[ducks]

Is there enough money to offer a good deal for AK47?

he wants years and a contender

[TheGoldStandard]

I was gonna make a thread about this but does Kawhi deserve max money now with this deal?

Yes.. and they better pay him.. Someone is going to throw ridiculous money at him.

[Captivus]

Is Baynes THAT bad?

[sammy]

Fuck that soft bitch! Should've sent his soft loser ass out of here! WTF! Not worth 45 million for his soft ass play during the finals!

[Big Empty]

We will need him in the west. The only teams we dont need him for are golden state and miami. We need tobring manu back or sign a nice sg

[benefactor]

Before all you faggots reach for the gun, do some research on how contracts are structured and it's basically an afterthought that the final year is partially guaranteed.

[yavozerb]

it's actually 9 mil, and the chance to sign a good free agent gone too. Not good.

Thanks for the correction. Not sure why some you of expected anything less than 8-9 mil for a starting center in the NBA. 8 would have been nicer but 9 is not suprising and probably what others were offering.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

How does this affect giving Kawhi a future extension? Some journalists on Twitter keep bringing up Kawhi.

[rayray2k8]

In fairness, Splitter was a reason why the Spurs got to the finals.... That's all i can say. He did show improvement though, so hopefully he'll get better in his all around game or better yet, develop a jumper. Then i think he'd be worth that amount.

[phxspurfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jUBbCgMWmE

[MeloHype]

http://img.pandawhale.com/26643-Jump-Out-Window-gif-AT8K.gif

[TheGoldStandard]

Before all you faggots reach for the gun, do some research on how contracts are structured and it's basically an afterthought that the final year is partially guaranteed.

I don't care about what he'll get paid in 2018 or if he'll be on the team. He'd be 34 by then and by no means even as productive as he is now. Just a bad deal all together.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Glad to have Tiago back. Especially since 5 years, $45 million means his salary for next year is likely $7.5 million. That will leave a little over $11 million to resign Manu and get Kirilenko or a backup point. That could expand to over $15 million if they amnesty Bonner and Neal signs elsewhere.

Thissss

Plus, we don't know the exact details - could really be good for us in the long term.

[coyotes_geek]

Hopefully that 5th year is a team option which would make this a lot more palatable.

[024]

$9 million a year was expected. But for 5 years??? Wtf? Is it possible for that 4th year to be a team option, similar to how rookie contracts are constructed?

Judging at how the Spurs were exploring other bigs, there's no doubt in my mind that Tiago's agent brought in other pending offers worth upwards of $10-11 million. The only way to get Splitter to sign for less was offer more years.

[baseline bum]

What do you mean? You're not gonna panic and meltdown? :lol

I just can't panic and meltdown any more after 6. I mean it's like you just got back from Mai Lai, flamethrower in hand, and you're supposed to be scared of Compton?

[Captivus]

http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/t_xlarge_l/v1370863904/lebron-james-block-gif.gif

[Baseline]

What has Tiago improved in so markedly since the Finals that would possess the Spurs to pay this clown so much money, and for so many years?

[ElNono]

I just can't panic and meltdown any more after 6. I mean it's like you just got back from Mai Lai, flamethrower in hand, and you're supposed to be scared of Compton?

you popsucker you :lol

[benefactor]

I don't care about what he'll get paid in 2018 or if he'll be on the team. He'd be 34 by then and by no means even as productive as he is now. Just a bad deal all together.
Thanks for not reading. The pill bottle is waiting. Be sure you take them all, K?

[SA210]

http://i.qkme.me/3pinm3.jpg

:lmao

[SA210]

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/lawKYban42w/maxresdefault.jpg

[BatManu20]

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[monkeypunk]

I just can't panic and meltdown any more after 6. I mean it's like you just got back from Mai Lai, flamethrower in hand, and you're supposed to be scared of Compton?

:rollin

[TheGoldStandard]

In fairness, Splitter was a reason why the Spurs got to the finals.... That's all i can say. He did show improvement though, so hopefully he'll get better in his all around game or better yet, develop a jumper. Then i think he'd be worth that amount.

Yeah, I mean who could forget his clutch performances and him carrying the team. He's a cog, you could say the same thing about Diaw or Danny Green.. The core guys are the reason why the Spurs got as far as they did, Parker/Duncan were the reason we got where we are at and Duncan is set to start declining sooner rather than later.. Tiago isn't going to improve offensively and we need a big that can once Duncan declines, gets injured etc..

[rayray2k8]

People are concerned that the spur wont be able to pay KL in 2 years. Are they aware that Tim will probably retire by then? :huh













Oh god, what a dreadful thought of Timmy retiring. :(

[deibero]

Thanks. Knew something was funny there.

by the way, you are entitled to one 5 year extension worth the MAX, but u can sign many players to 5 yrs extensions as long as theyre not max contracts... pls someone confirm this is the case

[NASpurs]

What's worse, this or game six?

-GNSF

[Nathan89]

Regular season dominance here we come. Tired hearing how expensive big-men are. What teams have won with overpaid shitty bigs? Clippers? Thunder? Dallas couldn't do it for years.

[Chinook]

I don't care about what he'll get paid in 2018 or if he'll be on the team. He'd be 34 by then and by no means even as productive as he is now. Just a bad deal all together.

He'll turn 33 midway through his final year. He's not taking up any more of the cap this season. It's really not a big deal.

[SA210]

:lol Just kidding. I like Tiago

[Splits]

The deal is what it is for a starting center, fair market value. I just don't think Splitter is as valuable to this team in the 13-14 season to justify it. Unless this is a sign and trade, I hope he earns it.

[Bruno]

I do hope his contract with have a flat structure of $9M per season. If it the raising structure, it will end at $10.2M which would be a lot for a 33 years old Splitter.

[BatManu20]

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[look_at_g_shred]

Well. Time to buy a Splitter jersey now.

[ohmwrecker]

The Spurs weren't going to get anyone better than Splitter.

[TheGoldStandard]

Thanks for not reading. The pill bottle is waiting. Be sure you take them all, K?

Just don't cry for a big when Duncan regresses because of age and we're left with Tiago Splitter as our Pick N Roll guy.

[coyotes_geek]

Realistically, the Spurs couldn't let Tiago sign an offer sheet. Teams signing RFA's to offer sheets usually frontload those deals to maximize the cap hit in the first year to try and scare off the original team from matching. If the Spurs wanted to keep Tiago and try to come away with some capspace this year, they couldn't let Tiago sign an offer sheet. The Spurs kind of got backed into a corner here.

[stephen jackson]

obviously we arent signing anybody worth a shit...
same exact team back.

[look_at_g_shred]

The Spurs weren't going to get anyone better than Splitter.

[ElNono]

I do hope his contract with have a flat structure of $9M per season. If it the raising structure, it will end at $10.2M which would be a lot for a 33 years old Splitter.

Could also be a nice fat expiring deal to shop around by then...

[UZER]

Splitter is actually a good big man who can defend the pick and roll well when its far from the basket.

His problem is lack of quickness and explosion. Hes like fast dog, but not a quick dog in close confines. This is why the pnr at the elbow with chalmers killed him because hes not fast enough to make quick switches. This is also why he gets blocks because hes not explosive to rise quickly above defenders so its get blocked, or throw up the piece of shit jump hook.

But sucks for fans thats its just always more of the same with the spurs and free agency. Is it a crime to sign a states-side big who isnt soft.

[deibero]

People are concerned that the spur wont be able to pay KL in 2 years. Are they aware that Tim will probably retire by then? :huh

it isnt the money...its the 5 years people are talking...the thing is youre allowed only one 5 year extension per team, but that rule is for max extensions if I'm not mistaken











Oh god, what a dreadful thought of Timmy retiring. :(

[Johnny RIngo]

rasho 2.0

I don't think even Rasho would have been blocked by every member of the Miami Heat the way Tiago was.

[Chinook]

I do hope his contract with have a flat structure of $9M per season. If it the raising structure, it will end at $10.2M which would be a lot for a 33 years old Splitter.

Partially guaranteed, though. Depending on how little is guaranteed, they could just cut him or trade him then.

[michaelwcho]

He's a good big man. Good big men win games and championships in a game with an elevated goal. The existence of LeBron James does not change how you structure your team, that's just a bad idea. As far as price...no hometown discount there, but it's not outrageous. Outrageous is $10m/year for volume shooters or other similar losers.

[Bruno]

Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk 1m
The Spurs are going to use their five-year extension on Tiago Splitter and not save it for Kawhi?
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Kurt Helin is wrong. Spurs will still have the five year extension exception to use on Kawhi next offseason.

[TheGoldStandard]

He'll turn 33 midway through his final year. He's not taking up any more of the cap this season. It's really not a big deal.

He's soft and won't improve anymore on the offensive end. Pop is not going to just start calling plays for him or having him shoot jumpers or develop one..

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)There won't be a fifth year on the Splitter deal. The terms will be four years, $36 million-plus, sources tell Y! Sports.

[benefactor]

Just don't cry for a big when Duncan regresses because of age and we're left with Tiago Splitter as our Pick N Roll guy.
:lol

[manufan10]

4 years $36 million.

[UnWantedTheory]

I will provide the razors guys.

[look_at_g_shred]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)There won't be a fifth year on the Splitter deal. The terms will be four years, $36 million-plus, sources tell Y! Sports.



ok.

[Chinook]

He's soft and won't improve anymore on the offensive end. Pop is not going to just start calling plays for him or having him shoot jumpers or develop one..

And Danny Green can't hit threes in the post-season...

[ElNono]

well, there you go

[coyotes_geek]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)There won't be a fifth year on the Splitter deal. The terms will be four years, $36 million-plus, sources tell Y! Sports.




Better. Much better.

[manufan10]

Way too much doom and gloom here.

[NASpurs]

That's better, 4/$36

[Captivus]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 1min (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/352155987458793473) There won't be a fifth year on the Splitter deal. The terms will be four years, $36 million-plus, sources tell Y! Sports.

OK THEN!! Sound a LOT better!!

[024]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)There won't be a fifth year on the Splitter deal. The terms will be four years, $36 million-plus, sources tell Y! Sports.



That is much more acceptable.

[Chinook]

That lack of a fifth year makes this more interesting. Hopefully, his last year is still partially guaranteed.

[jesterbobman]

Woj just tweeted 4yrs/36.

[stephen jackson]

goin downnnnnn

gimme another

[SpursSerb]

He better grow a pair of balls during the summer/

[Spurs Brazil]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)There won't be a fifth year on the Splitter deal. The terms will be four years, $36 million-plus, sources tell Y! Sports.




MUCH better

[Spurs9]

Yeah much better!

[benefactor]

Better. Much better.
Betting it's a partially guaranteed final year too. Market value deal tbh.

[manufan10]

I agree:

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[Sean Cagney]

rasho 2.0
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheGoldStandard]

Splitter is actually a good big man who can defend the pick and roll well when its far from the basket.

His problem is lack of quickness and explosion. Hes like fast dog, but not a quick dog in close confines. This is why the pnr at the elbow with chalmers killed him because hes not fast enough to make quick switches. This is also why he gets blocks because hes not explosive to rise quickly above defenders so its get blocked, or throw up the piece of shit jump hook.

He's a liability if he doesn't play next to Tim Duncan who was having an amazing season. Alone in the paint he's crap more often than not offensively.

[Mugen]

4yr/36 million is fair market value for Splitter.

I really, really hope that a) the Spurs can re-sign Manu with enough money for an impact player like AK and b) Splitter nuts up in the next postseason run.

[loveforthegame]

4 years - $36 million is so much better. :tu

Now let's move on.

[coyotes_geek]

If it's a flat contract, obviously Splitter's cap figure for next year is $9 mil. If it escalates, he'd be just over $8.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Im not an armchair gm like you niggas but i'd say this is a good deal, his post defense and pick n roll D earned this. Lets hope he can sack up n grab some rebounds and learn better post moves.

[DesignatedT]

Not as bad.

[ElNono]

in b4 "RC was reading this thread and he cut that last year after the meltdown" goods...

[MeloHype]

http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/whew.png

[BatManu20]

*****UPDATE*****

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Everyone breathe a deep sigh of relief.

[Josepatches_]

Bigmen are expensive. $9M is a little higher than what I was expecting.hoping but it's not a shocker.

Agree

[Arc]

first year tiago starts, spurs go to the finals and nearly won it (took a miracle game 6 for miami).. you people need to chill out.

[UZER]

He's a liability if he doesn't play next to Tim Duncan who was having an amazing season. Alone in the paint he's crap more often than not offensively.

Yup. I should have said when hes paird with duncan.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Tiago has progressively gotten better each season as his confidence has risen. I expect him to continue the trend next season, and hopefully keep it rolling in the post season. I like the deal, and I like the amount of money we have left to hopefully secure that one solid addition (Kirilenko).

[SsKSpurs21]

Originally Posted by ‏@WojYahooNBA
There won't be a fifth year on the Splitter deal. The terms will be four years, $36 million-plus, sources tell Y! Sports.

[hooperflash]

DATS
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/b044/cdj77mx78i6bxnu3g.jpg

Prove me wrong Tiago, prove me wrong.

[SA210]

http://therookiewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Tiago-Splitter.jpg

[SpurSpurSpurs]

I think FO was trying to get David West but since he re-signed with the Pacers, they have no choice but to offer a deal with Tiago. Not bad, especially 4/36 deal.

If we can just develop our other PGs, we can just focus on getting AK47. 2014-2015 will be a better season for us!

[Chinook]

I'd actually prefer it to be front-loaded if it's fully guaranteed. So long as the team times its signings well, it wouldn't affect the cap negatively this season.

[wildbill2u]

Think of what the market for big men with some skills is today---and what it will be five years from now.

Meantime, a contract at that figure for that long is probably bankable for a possible trade in case one of the miracle trades that many folks float on this website ever becomes more than their private fantasy.

[MadGymSkillz]

Does this still provide hope for a sign and trade with Phoenix?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

I like 4 years a lot more than 5. Hopefully he plays around 30 mins a game.

[MeloHype]

http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/rejoice.png

[timvp]

I'll take it. I'd prefer three years but four years is fine.

The might seem high but that's how much starting quality bigmen cost these days.

Good news :tu

[coyotes_geek]

Does this still provide hope for a sign and trade with Phoenix?

No. Splitter for Gortat is dead. Diaw+filler for Gortat is still possible, but by keeping Splitter there doesn't seem to be much sense in continuing to pursue Gortat.

[crc21209]

I think FO was trying to get David West but since he re-signed with the Pacers, they have no choice but to offer a deal with Tiago. Not bad, especially 4/36 deal.

If we can just develop our other PGs, we can just focus on getting AK47. 2014-2015 will be a better season for us!

:lol Please. David West wasnt leaving Indiana and everyone knew it...

[palangi]

He better grow a pair of balls during the summer/
just hit the damn weightroom!

[palangi]

any chance this might be a sign and trade?

[Johnny RIngo]

I felt bad for Duncan that he had to put up with mentally weak Pop and soft Euro second options. Now I feel bad for Leonard. Going to waste his prime playing next to an overpaid, soft Euro big that finishes like a goddamn point guard.

[Big Empty]

id be happy if he could develop a more fluid jump hook. A jumper would be great!

[Nathan89]

The Spurs weren't going to get anyone better than Splitter.

You sound just like the some people on here after the RJ extension.

[Mugen]

Welcome back, Tiago.

Glad he's returning and hope we see continued improvement from him.

Re-sign Manu and get a solid backup 3/4.

[K-State Spur]

I do hope his contract with have a flat structure of $9M per season. If it the raising structure, it will end at $10.2M which would be a lot for a 33 years old Splitter.

If more key pieces were younger, I'd agree with that.

But I'd rather take a lower hit initially with the yearly increases, then let the bigger totals hit when the team is taking a year or two (realistically more) to rebuild around Kawhi anyways.

[Sean Cagney]

I'll take it. I'd prefer three years but four years is fine.

The might seem high but that's how much starting quality bigmen cost these days.

Good news :tu
The modern DAY NBA for you, weak Centers all around in this league. You get a average to good one you have to overpay.

[stephen jackson]

i want redick & ak47 now.... they better get that shit done

[timtonymanu]

Welcome back, Tiago. I'm sure there are people still cutting their wrists.

Now bring back Manu and sign Kirilenko.

[ace3g]

Have to remember that Splitter didn't become full time starter till Dec 15th vs Celtics; so next year will be first time he presumably starts entire year; brings continuity and chemistry.

[BatManu20]

Now re-sign Manu and go all out for AK47. We won't get the shot creator that we need but hopefully Splitter improves and Kirilenko would step up and have a good year. Our best shot at this point.

[Chinook]

any chance this might be a sign and trade?

Not really, since the signing team tends not to be the one who negotiates the deal. We could tell for sure by looking at the raises, though.

[Big Empty]

so how much cap space do we have?

[cd98]

first year tiago starts, spurs go to the finals and nearly won it (took a miracle game 6 for miami).. you people need to chill out.


While I think the Spurs had to resign him around 9 million to keep him; and they would have a tough time finding a replacement (and probably pay a lot more for it), most people are scared of tying up so much cap space for a guy that Pop didn't trust to put in game 7 of the NBA finals.

[biskvito]

Splitah gonna add a jumper and shut the haters, pay da man

[deibero]

No. Splitter for Gortat is dead. Diaw+filler for Gortat is still possible, but by keeping Splitter there doesn't seem to be much sense in continuing to pursue Gortat.

that was just a fake rumor is my guess...no credible source behind it

[Nathan89]

Have to remember that Splitter didn't become full time starter till Dec 15th vs Celtics; so next year will be first time he presumably starts entire year; brings continuity and chemistry.

Ace with the glass half full take.

[Johnny RIngo]

Splitah gonna add a jumper and shut the haters, pay da man

I'd rather he add some legit post moves instead of being so dependent on the pick n roll for most of his offense.

[Mugen]

Great news for Tiago as well. Would have probably fell off the plane and died on the tarmac if he had signed with Portland tbh.

:lol tlong

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Come on, it's really not a bad deal you guys. 9 is legitimately what was expected. 7 million was a Spurstalk pipe dream. We are strapped on any other quality FAs. But if Splitter got away, and we were left without a big man we would have been in a lot of trouble. Everyone knows I'm not a big Splitter fan, but he has gotten better each year. I expect the trend to continue. If he could just bulk up 10-15 lbs it would do wonders for him

I honestly think we should have saved money and not gave Bonner 4 mill. That money could have brought in a backup PG or SG. I would like to see Neal leave. He is a 3 point specialist, and not a good one at that. It's time.to see what DeColo can do. Both these guys contribute on the right teams and situations, but there were/are bigger needs that won't get filled. Right now I am very concerned with SG and Forward. I don't see where replacements/upgrades/depth is coming from.

[rjv]

for the west, splitter is still a valuable commodity.

[Doe]

Not sure why anyone would be complaining. There weren't any better realistic options. Especially considering how long it takes a big man to acclimate in Pop's system.

[Budkin]

I like Tiago and think he can improve greatly. Was looking forward to Gortat though.

[rjv]

our best free agent is going to be a third year leonard, who should really start taking his game to all star level next season.

[stephen jackson]

our best free agent is going to be a third year leonard, who should really start taking his game to all star level next season.

exactly was just thinking this....

[td4mvp2k]

good sign now lets get monta!

[Poolboy5623]

I'm wondering if some of you would rather have Greg oden!?

[CGD]

That's a good deal, and pretty much what we all expected here. What I like about Tiago is that he has proven that he is willing to work hard to improve his game (e.g., free throw shooting last year). If he can up the rebounding production a bit each year, he'll be well worth the deal. Now lets hope the Spurs can nab AK47 for what is left.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

I like this deal. Hopefully this means Tiago stays in San Antonio for a while this summer and works with the new big man coach the Spurs hired.

[SenorSpur]

Was there ever any doubt that the two sides would reach an agreement. For 9 mil per year, I personally want Splitter to MTFU and become much more aggressive around the basket - starting next season!

[CGD]

I'm wondering if some of you would rather have Greg oden!?

Why not both? Room exception can be in play for him, no?

[DesignatedT]

We need to fucking amnesty Bonner.

[MeloHype]

good sign now lets get monta!
Yesssssss

[KawhiLeonard]

Very Disappointed they should have match the offer and S&T him not worth 9 mil.

[SAmagic]

Hopefully more dunks and less rimed hook shots.. Like the reverse poster if Lebron was a second late that dunk would have been lethal, he needs to power those down all next season.

[stephen jackson]

why is bonner still on this team lol

[timvp]

One way to look at this was at Splitter's peak this season, I was hoping the Spurs could convince him to stay for 4 years and $40 million. I was worried he'd go somewhere else for more. So getting him for 4 years and $36 million means he lost money during the second half of the season.

Sure he has his warts and weaknesses but all in all Splitter is a proven fit who probably hasn't peaked. The Spurs get his prime basketball years (centers like him usually peak between 28-31) for a standard starting bigman price.

[dallasmaverickslose]

Tiago you better prove youre worthy of this!! Work on your interior game and strength NOW!!

[Keepin' it real]

How does this affect giving Kawhi a future extension? Some journalists on Twitter keep bringing up Kawhi.

Spurs realize there's no way they can keep Kawhi long-term. He'll be a max contract sort of player.

[DPG21920]

I'm assuming they won't sign this until after they ink their free agents...

Also, that 4th year makes it a pretty big contract (assuming it's guaranteed). Even if it was 3 years, that is more than ASIK got. It's fair based on the NBA market value, but 36M is a lot for someone his age, with his injury problems and that you can only play 25MPG and have to sit during the finals for long stretches (not to mention, someone who can't really get you a double double). It will very likely make him the 3rd highest paid player on the Spurs this year and he will only be playing limited minutes with limited offensive production.

Having said that, I am very glad he is back. Spurs aren't the normal team with regards to stats for production and he plays a big enough role. Also, major props to the Spurs for overpaying (to what degree we can argue) in order to make the commitment to be a contender as long as Tim/TP/Manu are around. That's a big deal and congrats to Splitter for his first big contract.

[Gino-Step]

Now re-sign Manu and go all out for AK47. We won't get the shot creator that we need but hopefully Splitter improves and Kirilenko would step up and have a good year. Our best shot at this point.

Good points. We need AK47. But does mean we will not get a better version of Gary Neal which is needed.

[tesseractive]

I don't think even Rasho would have been blocked by every member of the Miami Heat the way Tiago was.
Rasho also couldn't have defended the pick and roll the way Tiago does.

[Juggity]

first year tiago starts, spurs go to the finals and nearly won it (took a miracle game 6 for miami).. you people need to chill out.

:tu

[SenorSpur]

Think of what the market for big men with some skills is today---and what it will be five years from now.

Meantime, a contract at that figure for that long is probably bankable for a possible trade in case one of the miracle trades that many folks float on this website ever becomes more than their private fantasy.

Exactly!

When you have spares like Desgana Diop and Samuel Dalembert pulling down some heavy scratch, this deal is fair market value for Splitter.

[Solid D]

Believe it or not, Tiago does have market value. His role with the Spurs certainly was not to score the way it would be with an Al Jefferson type of Big. His screening and passing has greater value than people realize. He played in more games than any other Spur this year.

With that said, the Spurs could include his contract in a trade in the not too distant future.

[Chomag]

It's fair Market value I suppose but to me its a bit much for a 7 footer that can be posted up by point guards. I honestly dont think I have ever seen a NBA big get blocked as much as Splitter does. I hope he improves dramatically this summer but I feel he is as good as he is going to get.

[cd98]

As to the Rasho comparisons, I think they are off. Splitter is more mobile and and a better offensive player/passer. He really needs to work on his rebounding though. It's horrendous.

Rasho was an iceberg and his touch was pure brick. He was basically just a 7 footer who could occuply space.

[KawhiLeonard]

This is Very Simular to the Deandre Jordan Signing tbh 2 Limited Big men vastly overpaid
I know they are very different players but same concept

[DesignatedT]

Like I've been saying. It's a fair contract when looking at the NBA market value but I'm not going to enjoy seeing Splitter get all this coin. He definitely doesn't deserve it IMO. But it is what it is and I'm glad he's back.

[TheyCallMePro]

I don't care what anyone says. Tiago Splitter fucking sucks. Pop realized that too, and after game 5 he BENCHED HIS ASS. As he should have done ALL ALONG.

Splitter doesn't block shots. He doesn't rebound with any consistency at all, and he's scared to DEATH to post up.

This is the worst contract the Spurs have ever dished out. I am sick to my stomach right now.

[Keepin' it real]

Wow, re-signed Splitter and, if the 17 pages of Spurstalk are correct, also signing Gortat??? Awesome off season!

[hommeaetage]

Can one of the cap guru tell me how does this affect Kawhi? He's on his third year, and I believe he will be due an extension soon

[Poolboy5623]

Why not both? Room exception can be in play for him, no?

Because oden is a bum and hasn't played in over 4 years? The spurs have baynes, let oden be someone else's problem.

[KawhiLeonard]

Spurs realize there's no way they can keep Kawhi long-term. He'll be a max contract sort of player.

your an idiot

[Embedded]

Mr. Splitter will improve.

[TD 21]

I'd have preferred 3 years, but it's not a big deal and the money is both expected and irrelevant, considering their current and future cap situation.

I know a lot of you can't fathom how someone as soft as him, who only does one thing exceptionally well (and even that is reliant on having an elite pick-and-roll ball handler), could get this much, but here's some comparable examples: Ilyasova = $8M, Anderson and Asik = $8+M, Gibson = $8.5M, Jordan and McGee = $11M . . . like it or not, this is exactly where he fits in.

[Slydragon]

how early can we amnesty him?

[spurs1990]

In couldn't care less what he makes.

Just frustrated they invested a huge part of their cap on a player who exhibited one of the worst performances in Finals history for the Spurs 5 trips.

I will say this: no way he lives this contract in a Spurs uni. He'll be traded after year 2.

Really pissed in these last 2 weeks.

[stephen jackson]

wish we had asik :(

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Now re-sign Manu and go all out for AK47. We won't get the shot creator that we need but hopefully Splitter improves and Kirilenko would step up and have a good year.


That is not necessarily true. The Spurs with this contract, 7.8mil guaranteed in first year I believe, Spurs are sitting at 45mil against the cap now (remember 4.8mil qualifying offer was counted against the cap). Let's say Manu signs a 2 year 10mil a year deal. The Spurs will have 8mil in cap space to sign AK47. Spurs could go the route of a sign and trade as well for a wing player like Ellis, Evans or Mayo or sign a player like Mayo outright and throw a 4 year Midlevel deal at AK. They could also just amnesty Bonner as well to make room for a signing.

Spurs still have options at this point.

Spurs still have alot of options. But signing Ginobili to a favorable contract should be the next order of business for them b/c of his caphold.

[alamo50]

I agree:

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West is an All-Star!

[Chinook]

Can one of the cap guru tell me how does this affect Kawhi? He's on his third year, and I believe he will be due an extension soon

It doesn't at all. At all, at all. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[snickles]

I honestly dont think I have ever seen a NBA big get blocked as much as Splitter does.

splitter was #16 in shots blocked against this year with 78. one more than al jefferson and peckvic.
in comparison, duncan was blocked 73 times.

randolph, asik, and hibbert are some bigger named bigs with more shots blocked against this last year.

http://www.hoopdata.com/scoringstats.aspx?team=%25&type=tot&posi=%25&yr=2013&gp=0&mins=20

[freetiago]

Pop just has to play him and have confidence in him now
cant yank him for a slight mistake or perceived mistake that isnt actually a mistake but Pop just needing someone to take his anger issues out on ala Splitter not doubling Durant in the 2012 WCF

heopfully we see more post plays and let him expand his game outside of the pick and roll
still wont get the respect from the refs though probably which will hurt him since guards are allowed to hold his arms down
in 2011 he had one of the best free throw rates in the nba

[Splits]

I'd rather have Jarrett Jack than AK47. What was our major malfunction in that Heat series? We didn't have anyone besides Tony who could handle the ball or create off the dribble. Why do you think Neal had to play so much in that series? Unless you think Manu is going to have a resurgence next year, our most pressing need is a playmaker, not AK47.

[slick'81]

That fifth year would have been tough but here's to tiago continuing to grow as a player in a spur uni

[look_at_g_shred]

West is an All-Star!

In the east though. I'm sure Tiago would be too.

[Chinook]

That is not necessarily true. The Spurs with this contract, 7.8mil guaranteed in first year I believe, Spurs are sitting at 45mil against the cap now (remember 4.8mil qualifying offer was counted against the cap). Let's say Manu signs a 2 year 10mil a year deal. The Spurs will have 8mil in cap space to sign AK47. Spurs could go the route of a sign and trade as well for a wing player like Ellis, Evans or Mayo or sign a player like Mayo outright and throw a 4 year Midlevel deal at AK. They could also just amnesty Bonner as well to make room for a signing.

Spurs still have options at this point.

Spurs still have alot of options. But signing Ginobili to a favorable contract should be the next order of business for them b/c of his caphold.

The Spurs were sitting on his $7.5 Million cap hold, not his QO. So this only affects their cap by $600k (his starting salary can't be lower than $8.1 Million) to $1.5 Million (the highest his salary can be is $9.9 Million). And now that Splitter's guaranteed to be here, the team no longer has the means to do a S&T for anyone worth while and sign Kirilenko. It'd be either/or now.

[Texas_Ranger]

Overpaid for his pussy basketball. And lol @ trying to bring back Neal and the whole 12/13 team. Surprised Blair is not getting paid by the Spurs. I guess they think we're getting younger and Tim can play like this for 5 more years. They had 20 fucking millions and they gonna bring back Splitter, Manu, Neal and Bonner. Well that's just amazing shit right there.

[KawhiLeonard]

In the east though. I'm sure Tiago would be too.

West is not an Allstar in either Conference and plz tell me ur joking about Tiago being an Allstar in the east.

[Vash StampedE]

Guys!! I'm confused so bear with me. My questions are:
1. Is the contract offer a 36m/4yrs or 45/5yrs?
2. With the Spurs having placed an offer to Splitter, can other teams still place a bet or will he be a lock in our roster next season? Because I just read in some news that both parties have agreed on terms?

Thanks!

[sanman53]

Welcome to the future of the Spurs! TIAGO!

[Big Empty]

danika patrick ewing just tweeted we paid Tiago a dollar for every youtube view of Lebron blocking him lol thats terrible

[look_at_g_shred]

West is not an Allstar in either Conference and plz tell me ur joking about Tiago being an Allstar in the east.

No Kawhi. I'm not kidding. I mean c'mon in the east they have Hibbert and freaking Kevin Garnett lol

[timvp]

On thing to keep in mind: Woj's reported salaries always seem to be high with regards to the Spurs. While he's saying "$36M+" for Splitter now, that could end up being closer to $30M.

Remember, last year Woj said Duncan got $36M over three years but we eventually found out TD got $30 over three years.

[elbamba]

Spurs do not sweep the Grizz and might not even beat them without Splitter. Splitter and Diaw were great. The team that took them to the 2013 finals and was 30 seconds away from number 5 is almost back in its entirety. Go Spurs Go!

[look_at_g_shred]

danika patrick ewing just tweeted we paid Tiago a dollar for every youtube view of Lebron blocking him lol thats terrible

Hoe can suck a dick. Just because here dad is who he is doesn't mean she knows shit about basketball.

[look_at_g_shred]

Spurs do not sweep the Grizz and might not even beat them without Splitter. Splitter and Diaw were great. The team that took them to the 2013 finals and was 30 seconds away from number 5 is almost back in its entirety. Go Spurs Go!

It's fixed now.

[elbamba]

It's fixed now.

Realized that as soon as I posted. Thanks for the correction.

[Juggity]

West is an All-Star!

...And Tiago is one of the best defensive big men in the league.

[alamo50]

In the east though. I'm sure Tiago would be too.

Good one.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

The Spurs were sitting on his $7.5 Million cap hold, not his QO. So this only affects their cap by $600k (his starting salary can't be lower than $8.1 Million) to $1.5 Million (the highest his salary can be is $9.9 Million). And now that Splitter's guaranteed to be here, the team no longer has the means to do a S&T for anyone worth while and sign Kirilenko. It'd be either/or now.

I any case, if Manu signs for 5mil, the Spurs will have 8mil in cap space to sign a player. They could still amnesty Bonner have close to 12mil to sign someone like Ellis outright and then use the MLE on AK47, like some mention a 4 year 22mil deal.

Spurs still can get a play maker and a small ball SF/PF in AK47 or Korver. This would be a great offseason if the Spurs could pull this off.

[Texas_Ranger]

This will be pretty funny when he averages 3 rebounds next year in the playoffs.

[td4mvp2k]

Spurs do not sweep the Grizz and might not even beat them without Splitter. Splitter and Diaw were great. The team that took them to the 2013 finals and was 30 seconds away from number 5 is almost back in its entirety. Go Spurs Go!

[Buddy Holly]

I any case, if Manu signs for 5mil, the Spurs will have 8mil in cap space to sign a player. They could still amnesty Bonner have close to 12mil to sign someone like Ellis outright and then use the MLE on AK47, like some mention a 4 year 22mil deal.

Spurs still can get a play maker and a small ball SF/PF in AK47 or Korver. This would be a great offseason if the Spurs could pull this off.

We can't use the MLE when we're under the cap. :nope

[Chinook]

I any case, if Manu signs for 5mil, the Spurs will have 8mil in cap space to sign a player. They could still amnesty Bonner have close to 12mil to sign someone like Ellis outright and then use the MLE on AK47, like some mention a 4 year 22mil deal.

Spurs still can get a play maker and a small ball SF/PF in AK47 or Korver. This would be a great offseason if the Spurs could pull this off.

No, they can't. A team can't use the MLE and cap space in the same off-season. Also, the $8 Million only happens if the Spurs amnesty Bonner. Right now, they have about $9 Million free.

[hommeaetage]

[QUOTE=timvp;6725619]On thing to keep in mind: Woj's reported salaries always seem to be high with regards to the Spurs. While he's saying "$36M+" for Splitter now, that could end up being closer to $30M.

Remember, last year Woj said Duncan got $36M over three years but we eventually found out TD got $30 over three years.[/QUOTE

Duncan gave the Spurs the discount, I don't think they'll be that lucky with Splitter

[snickles]

As to the Rasho comparisons, I think they are off. Splitter is more mobile and and a better offensive player/passer. He really needs to work on his rebounding though. It's horrendous.

Rasho was an iceberg and his touch was pure brick. He was basically just a 7 footer who could occuply space.


rasho was brought in to be a big body to match up with snaq. he was never intended to be a shooter or a big scorer. he was here to defend and rebound. he blocked a shot and a half a game, and rebounded well for the limited minutes he played (he per 36 numbers were phenomenal while he was here).

his problem was that he was so damned passive offensively when duncan was in the game. i seem to remember him having some solid games at times when duncan was out.

[tesseractive]

This will be pretty funny when he averages 3 rebounds next year in the playoffs.
Fortunately, there's this whole thing where KL keeps dropping double doubles in the playoffs, which takes the pressure off needing a center that's also a superior rebounder.

[bklynspursfan]

On thing to keep in mind: Woj's reported salaries always seem to be high with regards to the Spurs. While he's saying "$36M+" for Splitter now, that could end up being closer to $30M.

Remember, last year Woj said Duncan got $36M over three years but we eventually found out TD got $30 over three years.

Ah yes, good point...

[DesignatedT]

9M a year for 6 pts and 3 boards in the playoffs.

Nice to be an NBA big man.

[Godbama]

please let this be a sign and trade for Gortat :depressed

[Buddy Holly]

9M a year for 6 pts and 3 boards in the playoffs.

Stop being a GNSF.

[GrandeDavid]

Great signing.

[SpursSerb]

On thing to keep in mind: Woj's reported salaries always seem to be high with regards to the Spurs. While he's saying "$36M+" for Splitter now, that could end up being closer to $30M.

Remember, last year Woj said Duncan got $36M over three years but we eventually found out TD got $30 over three years.

God i hope you're right.

[Spurs9]

Stop being a GNSF.

:cry you are so much more elite having a bold name :cry

[DesignatedT]

Stop being a GNSF.

9M a year for a player who logged 4 minutes in game 7 of the NBA finals.

[johnpaulwall21]

So we are paying heavy quap for the 7th best spur in the playoffs. He will have no use against the powers of the nba like heat, thunder. The contract is equally as bad as Jefferson's was. Both players mirror each other, soft as shit and equally as useless.

[Mugen]

This will be pretty funny when he averages 3 rebounds next year in the playoffs.

-Splitter played well in 3 out of 4 series in the playoffs
-We probably don't get past Memphis without him
-Spurs are mediocre defensively without him
-He plays the most games out of any Spur to keep Duncan fresh for the POs and probably extends his level of play another season or two

I was disappointed in his Finals play as much as anybody else but I'm willing to give him another shot if it means the Spurs can keep contending in the Duncan era.

And stats don't really tell anywhere near the whole story in the Spurs' system.

[Joyrider]

And Duncan wouldn't have been anywhere near as fresh as he was for the playoffs if it wasn't for Splitter manning the paint for the entire season. Idiots abound in here.

[Big Empty]

Splitter is effective against the teams that matter in the west. Houston, LA, Memphis, Clippers. Im not sue about OKC.Now if we get back to the finals ill be happy for one more opportunity.

[Buddy Holly]

9M a year for a player who logged 4 minutes in game 7 of the NBA finals.

Again, stop acting like a moronic GNSF.

[T Park]

I'll take it. I'd prefer three years but four years is fine.

The might seem high but that's how much starting quality bigmen cost these days.

Good news :tu

Pretty much this.

[Mugen]

9M a year for 6 pts and 3 boards in the playoffs.

Nice to be an NBA big man.

Just try to rationalize this the same way you did when you were stoked about the Spurs bringing RJ back.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Great, now Mozgov is going to get paid :smokin

[DesignatedT]

Just try to rationalize this the same way you did when you were stoked about the Spurs bringing RJ back.

Lol I was definitely not "stoked" about that. I understood the move though.

I've already said that I would re-sign Tiago. Doesn't mean he isn't overpayed and overvalued. It is what it is.

Just pointing out facts.

[justinandimcool]

:lol GNSF

brb, gonna go enjoy having a defensive starting center locked up for 4 years.


the idea of Millsap being an upgrade against the Heat :lol :lol