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TheGreatYacht
07-03-2013, 10:03 AM
Kevin Martin has reached an agreement on a four-year, $28 million contract with the Minnesota Timberwolves, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--kevin-martin-to-sign-with-timberwolves-000243254.html

Redick has agreed to a four-deal worth $27 million to play for the Clippers. http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-clippers-trade-20130702,0,468075.story

Marc Stein of ESPN.com reports that the Bucks, who are also linked to having interest in J.R. Smith, are offering Korver a three-year deal worth $20 million. http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/03/nets-reportedly-out-of-the-running-for-kyle-korver/

Danny Green is a better player than all of these guys. The spurs signed Danny Green for half the price, maybe a little less than these players mentioned above. Spurs got lucky or is it good work by the FO? I think it's a little bit of both. Spurs are vey fortunate.

Danny Green is signed for 3 years / $11.29 million with the San Antonio Spurs. He is making $3.76 million in 2013-2014. http://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/danny-green/

dbestpro
07-03-2013, 10:08 AM
If only we had a coach who could teach him to pass, and dribble he could really be good.

SsKSpurs21
07-03-2013, 10:10 AM
for as much crap that danny green gets for those last two games, he has been really solid the entire season. the problem was that miami finally figured out how to stop him and it was too late to adjust.

i think he is a steal for what we are paying him. he still has alot of room for improvement and he is a hard worker. if he can get some of his ball handling down and learns how to create his own shot he could be another diamond in the rough find for us.

hyhy
07-03-2013, 10:14 AM
korver is better

Keepin' it real
07-03-2013, 10:18 AM
They are not fortunate to have him. They signed him when no one else wanted him. Then he let them down in the 2012 WCF, but the Spurs re-signed him anyway. This year, given the opportunity, he delivered big time. Danny Green is very fortunate to have the Spurs.

Leetonidas
07-03-2013, 10:20 AM
I don't think Green is better than Kevin Martin, no way. Martin is a soft as hell but he is definitely a more talented player with much more of an offensive game than Green. Redick is debatable, he's pretty underrated (not at that contract though) but Green is definitely on a very good contract for what he gives us. If he was a free agent this season he'd easily be getting 6-7 million a season imo

coyotes_geek
07-03-2013, 10:24 AM
korver is better

A better 3pt shooter? Sure.

A better defender? :lol

A better value for the contract? :lmao

jmanu20
07-03-2013, 10:27 AM
Good thread title by the OP.

It's funny that some Spurs fans seem to be using game 6 and 7 of the Finals as reason why Danny Green suddenly sucks. Realize that without his D on Curry, we probably don't get past the Warriors. While he does need to develop better ball handling skills and more of a mid-range game, he actually still has value when his shot isn't falling.

This is NOT the case with Redick, Martin, Korver, or Neal.

hyhy
07-03-2013, 10:27 AM
A better 3pt shooter? Sure.

A better defender? :lol

A better value for the contract? :lmao

Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.

jmanu20
07-03-2013, 10:29 AM
Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.

Go rewatch the WCSF and watch how Green frustrated Curry to no end from game 3 on. And it was Neal losing his man in the Finals most of the time, not Green.

Spur-Addict
07-03-2013, 10:29 AM
He's a better all around player, but his offensive game isn't on par with the guys listed.

coyotes_geek
07-03-2013, 10:30 AM
Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.

Thanks, but I've already watched every second of the finals. Why don't you go watch Kyle Korver try to defend someone? It isn't pretty.

hyhy
07-03-2013, 10:31 AM
Go rewatch the WCSF and watch how Green frustrated Curry to no end from game 3 on. And it was Neal losing his man in the Finals most of the time, not Green.

Didnt happen tbh. only his ankle and Jarrett jack stopped him. Watch the times he just blew by green for a floater easily. And you all only noticed Neal coz all spurs fans hate him. But alot of times it was actually green not neal who lost his man.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2013, 10:32 AM
Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.Good point. Danny Green has a lot of potential as a defender. I watched the Spurs all season long and one of Danny Green's weakness is being a team defender. He does tend to leave shooters open and overcommit as a help defender but I think it all comes down to effort and concentration. Green has all the tools to be an excellent defender IMO just a matter of how much effort and attention to detail he is willing to put on the court.

Seventyniner
07-03-2013, 10:34 AM
Thanks, but I've already watched every second of the finals. Why don't you go watch Kyle Korver try to defend someone? It isn't pretty.

If Ray Allen can get key Finals minutes for the champ, why not Korver? Miami has shown that you can win titles while having a minus defender on the floor (Allen, Miller).

Bill_Brasky
07-03-2013, 10:35 AM
Didnt happen tbh. only his ankle and Jarrett jack stopped him. Watch the times he just blew by green for a floater easily. And you all only noticed Neal coz all spurs fans hate him. But alot of times it was actually green not neal who lost his man.

:lol just no. Curry didn't hurt himself until the very end of game 3 and Danny erased him up until that point anyway. It was clear that matchup fucked up their offense.

Captivus
07-03-2013, 10:36 AM
The answer is YES.

coyotes_geek
07-03-2013, 10:45 AM
If Ray Allen can get key Finals minutes for the champ, why not Korver? Miami has shown that you can win titles while having a minus defender on the floor (Allen, Miller).

Oh Korver could definitely earn minutes on this team, but that wasn't the discussion. The discussion was whether or not Korver is a better player than Danny Green. He's not. Korver's the better offensive player, Green's the better defender. There's a much bigger gap between Green's D and Korver's D than there is between Korver's O and Green's O.

As for why not adding Korver to the Spurs, he's too expensive.

elemento
07-03-2013, 10:46 AM
Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.

Still better than Pussy Korver

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/925/900/kyle-korver1_original_display_image.jpg?1304979353

cd98
07-03-2013, 10:46 AM
I don't think Green is better than Kevin Martin, no way. Martin is a soft as hell but he is definitely a more talented player with much more of an offensive game than Green. Redick is debatable, he's pretty underrated (not at that contract though) but Green is definitely on a very good contract for what he gives us. If he was a free agent this season he'd easily be getting 6-7 million a season imo

Martin is a good/streaky shooter. He can get his shot a little better than Green. But percentage-wise, I'd bet Green shoots better from 3. That said, Green can defend and rebound. Martin can't. Martin can't create, pass, rebound, take people of the dribble, etc. Same could be said of Redick.

If Martin was that good, he'd still be with the Thunder.

cd98
07-03-2013, 10:47 AM
Don't forget Green is a good rebounder for a two guard. He pulls those down in heavy traffic (sigh except for the last 28 seconds in Game 6).

Seventyniner
07-03-2013, 10:49 AM
Oh Korver could definitely earn minutes on this team, but that wasn't the discussion. The discussion was whether or not Korver is a better player than Danny Green. He's not. Korver's the better offensive player, Green's the better defender. There's a much bigger gap between Green's D and Korver's D than there is between Korver's O and Green's O.

As for why not adding Korver to the Spurs, he's too expensive.

Fair enough. If Korver was cheap enough, he would be fantastic in Neal's role, but I agree that 3/20 is way too much money for the Spurs to pay.

Keepin' it real
07-03-2013, 10:56 AM
Dun overestimate Green's defense. The only time fans "saw" his great defense was when Lebron choked his layups with green's hand in his face. What you all fail to notice was several defensive errors by him. Go rewatch the finals and see how green loses his man most of the time.


Go rewatch the WCSF and watch how Green frustrated Curry to no end from game 3 on. And it was Neal losing his man in the Finals most of the time, not Green.

You're both right tbh. Green's defense was a huge factor in the Spurs' favor against GSW. But on those fateful last two possessions of regulation in Game 6 of the Finals, Danny Green was completely lost. On the first play, he started drifting toward halfcourt while everyone else was trying to get the rebound after LeBron's miss, so he was out of position to defend LeBron on his second try of that possession. Then on the second possession, Green was on Allen, but when LeBron's shot went up, Green totally lost Allen, which is unforgivable. And the Spurs paid dearly.

So yes, Green had defensive lapses in the Finals, but also yes, he was outstanding defensively in the GSW series and pretty good otherwise.

So stop arguing because you're both right.

hyhy
07-03-2013, 10:56 AM
:lol just no. Curry didn't hurt himself until the very end of game 3 and Danny erased him up until that point anyway. It was clear that matchup fucked up their offense.

Games 1-3 curry got erased??

hyhy
07-03-2013, 10:59 AM
Good point. Danny Green has a lot of potential as a defender. I watched the Spurs all season long and one of Danny Green's weakness is being a team defender. He does tend to leave shooters open and overcommit as a help defender but I think it all comes down to effort and concentration. Green has all the tools to be an excellent defender IMO just a matter of how much effort and attention to detail he is willing to put on the court.

Exactly. I rmb screaming at him so many times for helping one Pass away on good shooters, but all i see on ST was green's great defense on lebron's chokes

Bill_Brasky
07-03-2013, 11:01 AM
Games 1-3 curry got erased??
Danny didn't guard Curry exclusively until game 3. Surprise look what happens when you put length on a score-first PG.

hyhy
07-03-2013, 11:01 AM
You're both right tbh. Green's defense was a huge factor in the Spurs' favor against GSW. But on those fateful last two possessions of regulation in Game 6 of the Finals, Danny Green was completely lost. On the first play, he started drifting toward halfcourt while everyone else was trying to get the rebound after LeBron's miss, so he was out of position to defend LeBron on his second try of that possession. Then on the second possession, Green was on Allen, but when LeBron's shot went up, Green totally lost Allen, which is unforgivable. And the Spurs paid dearly.

So yes, Green had defensive lapses in the Finals, but also yes, he was outstanding defensively in the GSW series and pretty good otherwise.

So stop arguing because you're both right.

His defense on curry was great on curry only after his ankle, but i guess you could argue that it was his good def that caused that ankle :lmao

cd98
07-03-2013, 11:05 AM
Curry's ankle hurt when he missed a shot, but when he made them or exploded to the hoop for a layup, his ankle looked fine.

Stabula
07-03-2013, 12:44 PM
Green is a one-trick pony. He was the weakest link in our starting line up all season.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2013, 12:49 PM
Green is a one-trick pony. He was the weakest link in our starting line up all season.LMAO... Green is a big part of why we got to Game 6 and 28 seconds away from winning it all. Manu and Pop were the reason why we didn't win it all. Like it or like it.

Spur|n|Austin
07-03-2013, 12:52 PM
If only we had a coach who could teach him to pass, and dribble he could really be good.

That's not really coached at this point of a players career, they can ask it of them, but if it's not part of his game, it's not part of his game. Then again Pop has never preached that to any of his sharp shooters, ever.

Humberto
07-03-2013, 12:53 PM
Green is a proven napkin scorer, tbh

tesseractive
07-03-2013, 01:01 PM
Green is a one-trick pony. He was the weakest link in our starting line up all season.
His role is to be a 3 & D player, not a franchise player. Having a guy who can hit open shots, defend, rotate the ball, and grab some boards for $3M a year is a godsend.

Yeah, having Hall of Famers 8 deep on the roster would be great, but in the real world, you need guys like Danny.

cjw
07-03-2013, 01:01 PM
I don't think Green is better than Kevin Martin, no way. Martin is a soft as hell but he is definitely a more talented player with much more of an offensive game than Green. Redick is debatable, he's pretty underrated (not at that contract though) but Green is definitely on a very good contract for what he gives us. If he was a free agent this season he'd easily be getting 6-7 million a season imo

Defense is half the game. Martin is one of of the worst perimeter defenders in the league. Green shut down the hottest shooter on the planet in the GS series.

Leetonidas
07-03-2013, 02:35 PM
It probably helped that he got injured and Green is 5 inches taller than him

therealtruth
07-03-2013, 05:27 PM
You're both right tbh. Green's defense was a huge factor in the Spurs' favor against GSW. But on those fateful last two possessions of regulation in Game 6 of the Finals, Danny Green was completely lost. On the first play, he started drifting toward halfcourt while everyone else was trying to get the rebound after LeBron's miss, so he was out of position to defend LeBron on his second try of that possession. Then on the second possession, Green was on Allen, but when LeBron's shot went up, Green totally lost Allen, which is unforgivable. And the Spurs paid dearly.

So yes, Green had defensive lapses in the Finals, but also yes, he was outstanding defensively in the GSW series and pretty good otherwise.

So stop arguing because you're both right.

Defensive mistakes are on the coach. You shouldn't be screwing up defensive possessions in game 6 of the Finals. Again why it made no sense to take our best defender of the court. Green was our second best rebounder and he probably was thinking he had to secure the rebound after they failed to secure it the first time.

If Pop really focuses on reducing the defensive mistakes I think the defense can get even better.

therealtruth
07-03-2013, 05:31 PM
It probably helped that he got injured and Green is 5 inches taller than him

Using length is a sound defensive strategy.

Chinook
07-03-2013, 05:40 PM
It probably helped that he got injured and Green is 5 inches taller than him

He was 3-19 when Green was on him before he got injured, and the fact that Green's taller shouldn't matter, as everyone seems to give Lebron credit for shutting down smaller guys.

PlayNando
07-03-2013, 05:42 PM
Danny Green is a better player than all of these guys.
:lol No, he's not, tbh.

BatManu20
07-03-2013, 05:45 PM
Still better than Pussy Korver

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/925/900/kyle-korver1_original_display_image.jpg?1304979353

:lol Also, whatever happened to Rashad McCants? Dude just disappeared one day.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2013, 08:11 PM
I'm bumping this after hearing this:
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PlayNando
07-03-2013, 08:17 PM
LMAO... Green is a big part of why we got to Game 6 and 28 seconds away from winning it all. Manu and Pop were the reason why we didn't win it all. Like it or like it.

You are a terrible poster. Like it or like it.

TIMVPDPOY is ashamed of you.

ace3g
07-20-2013, 03:15 PM
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