Looks like Gary Neal will NOT be back.

[Buddy Holly]

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[Buddy Holly]

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[Baam]

Meh we're getting mixed signals but I believe Woj over anyone.

[benefactor]

I knew this would likely happen. He's probably getting close to an MLE deal from someone.

[Buddy Holly]

Meh we're getting mixed signals but I believe Woj over anyone.

You believe the Spurs want to carry Manu, Marco and Neal at the back up two spot?

You think the Spurs want to have 8 guards?

SMH

[HarlemHeat37]

Gary Neal leaving San Antonio would give me an orgasm, tbh..

:lol any team that pays Gary Neal anything substantial :lol..

[loveforthegame]

See ya Neal.

[spurraider21]

I actually like Gary. Hope he latches on somewhere and gets a decent contract. He's served pretty well for us considering his salary in his time here.

[Captivus]

If he is gone...we would just have to "Neal with it".

[ducks]

24 million I bet

[Baam]

Gary Neal leaving San Antonio would give me an orgasm, tbh..

:lol any team that pays Gary Neal anything substantial :lol..

They are basically the same player except one hit a season saving shot and had a great Finals game tbh...

[Darkwaters]

No hate for Gary Neal here. As a Summer League stand-out that signed an absolutely tiny deal, we've gotten 3 very solid years out of him. I've got nothing but love for him. Hopefully he can go somewhere and make a little cash, cause he won't get it from SA. Best regards.

[jestersmash]

Neal's a good guy and I will be rooting for him wherever he ends up (except of course when he plays against the Spurs).

[NASpurs]

Damn, no more of those awkward Splitter and Neal Ford commercials?

[toki9]

"NBA Finals hero"? Is that suppose to be in blue? BTW, I think Neal has value and did well with his skill set for the Spurs. Not ragging on him, but that sounded a bit like hyperbole.

[Buddy Holly]

They are basically the same player except one hit a season saving shot and had a great Finals game tbh...

They're basically the same player except one is taller, can play defense, can drive the ball and finish at the rim.

You know, little things.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Loved Gary Neal to death, he had some clutch as hell shots during his time here.

Was everything Roger Mason should have been.

[slick'81]

Gary neal mle ?! Wow

[HarlemHeat37]

They are basically the same player except one hit a season saving shot and had a great Finals game tbh...

As I said in the Beli thread, they have the same flaws, except Beli is slightly better at Neal's strengths, is taller and has a higher IQ, which is good enough for me, tbh..he also isn't a sexual predator..

[jestersmash]

I'm also happy that his Cinderella story panned out. Undrafted out of college. Proved himself in Europe, and ultimately came back to score probably a 3 year/$18M deal (my guess). Good for him.

[SpursSerb]

He deserves to get bigger cash.I hope he does.

[Robz4000]

Not gonna lie, I'll miss him.

One last time...

Neal with it.

[024]

Neal did his role and should be applauded. He was an undrafted free agent that turned into an actual NBA player. Hit lots of big shots and his offense kept the Spurs puttering along from the bench when Ginobili had his annual injury or was too preoccupied in helping the other team win. He even won a finals game with Green for the Spurs. Pretty good for having a salary of less than $1 million.

[Texas_Ranger]

always liked Neal, he made me mad as hell sometimes, but man he was clutch and not afraid.

[toki9]

he also isn't a sexual predator..

Oof...unnecessary roughness there, Harlem...

[pad300]

Gary played 3 years for us and looked decent doing it. He played in the finals and looked OK. I expect he will get something in the $3 to $4 million range (per year), and I'm happy for him. No complaints about his time here (considering what he was paid), and I wish him best of luck in the future... but I'm not complaining that it's not SA giving him that $3 or $4 million per year.

[benefactor]

Not gonna lie, I'll miss him.

One last time...

Neal with it.
Yup...gonna miss yelling choo choo when he was in rape mode.

[HarlemHeat37]

I was fine with Neal's stint as a Spur, especially considering his salary, but he was one of the worst rotation players in the NBA during the 2nd half of the year, including playoffs, tbh..

[Brunodf]

Gary Neal leaving San Antonio would give me an orgasm, tbh..

:lol any team that pays Gary Neal anything substantial :lol..
This

[loveforthegame]

No hate here but not going to say I'll miss him either.

He provided some clutch shots and had a decent run while here. But he wasn't going to improve and he was a defensive liability.

Wish him nothing but the best with his new team. Time to move on for both parties.

[toki9]

I was fine with Neal's stint as a Spur, especially considering his salary, but he was one of the worst rotation players in the NBA during the 2nd half of the year, including playoffs, tbh..

Felt similarly...although the plantar fasciitis and playing for a first decent contract in his life were mitigating factors (in his defense)...but he was borderline irrational confidence guy at times, especially once SJack was booted...

[ducks]

wonder if his contract will be more then jr smith

[Robz4000]

Yup...gonna miss yelling choo choo when he was in rape mode.

:cry

[ohmwrecker]

Fantastic news. Huge upgrade.

[slick'81]

Gl neal u played damn wel for a undrafted player.will remember u hitting big shots in the finals and the funny way u tried to play defense

[DPG21920]

No way Gary gets a full MLE deal. No way. No need to bash Neal. He did so much more than many guys in his spot before him. He did way more good than bad and he came out of no where for most Spurs fans.

[bigfan]

If this is the end of Gary Neal as a Spur, Ill just say thanks. He came out of nowhere and handled the load pretty damn well considering. He was a damn good shooter that wasnt afraid of the spotlight. He wasnt so hot on defense but so what? Top it off he was a good teammate and wasnt in any serious shit during his time here. If he's going, I hope he gets a big contract someplace in the East.

[therealtruth]

No one is talking about how it makes us better defensively, addition by subtraction. No longer seeing Gary Neal in noman's land and his man knocking down a 3 pointer.

[Baam]

No way Gary gets a full MLE deal. No way. No need to bash Neal. He did so much more than many guys in his spot before him. He did way more good than bad and he came out of no where for most Spurs fans.

Exactly guy was paid chump change, like 800k and was absolutely incredible for us.

[Keepin' it real]

Neal was very good for San Antonio. If nothing else, when the Spurs lost in the first round to Memphis in 2011, his shot saved the Spurs from being eliminated at home in 5 games to the #8 seed. That matters a lot .. no one wants to get eliminated at home. He helped the Spurs save face in front of the home crowd.

I think he'll have a bounce-back season next year since he's bound to be healthier than he was this year. I hope he doesn't go to a contending team, because he'll come back to haunt San Antonio with some clutch shooting.

[pookenstein]

No hate for Gary Neal here. As a Summer League stand-out that signed an absolutely tiny deal, we've gotten 3 very solid years out of him. I've got nothing but love for him. Hopefully he can go somewhere and make a little cash, cause he won't get it from SA. Best regards.

This.

[HI-FI]

count me in the "will miss Neal but hope he gets paid better elsewhere" category. He did so much stupid shit, but he was fearless at scoring and had some great moments for us while getting paid very little. I appreciate what he was able to do for us and hope he gets a good paycheck.

[Mal]

Real backup PG, love it

[Mel_13]

Real backup PG, love it

Who are you talking about?

[Mal]

Who are you talking about?

Whoever. With Neal gone, Spurs will need one.

[AFBlue]

Neal WAY outperformed his contract for sure. The guy can make a shot from anywhere on the court and has more "junk" in his game than any Spur outside Tim and Manu. His defense was horrid most of the time, but he gave the team a big lift off the bench and will be rewarded with his next deal.

Good luck to him.

[manufan10]

Neal with it.

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[Darkwaters]

"NBA Finals hero"? Is that suppose to be in blue? BTW, I think Neal has value and did well with his skill set for the Spurs. Not ragging on him, but that sounded a bit like hyperbole.

Seriously, ya'll motherfuckers forget so easily.

2013 NBA Finals, Game 3. Yes, he was pretty fucking important in that win.

[tmtcsc]

I hope Neal is back with the Spurs. When he got hot, he was awesome. He's a better offensive player than Green but Green plays much better D. Way too much hate going on for Neal.

[Big P]

Bet he signs with the Cavs.

[FkLA]

Will miss and always remember my nigga Gary 'balls of steel' Neal tbh. He had his flaws but niggas as fearless as him are hard to find, especially for 800k a year.

[ohmwrecker]

count me in the "will miss Neal but hope he gets paid better elsewhere" category. He did so much stupid shit, but he was fearless at scoring and had some great moments for us while getting paid very little. I appreciate what he was able to do for us and hope he gets a good paycheck.

Gary Neal was a feast or famine guy. When he was on, he was great, but I won't miss the turnovers, bad rotations and bad shooting nights. If Neal wasn't sinking 3s, he was pretty much useless. Belli can replace what Neal had (fearless, clutch shots) plus a longer body, slightly better d and better handles. So long, Choo Choo. Thanks for the memories.

[#1spursfanNvegas]

Spurs "fans" getting what they ask for... I hope Gary doesnt kill us everytime he plays against the Spurs.

[ohmwrecker]

double

[ducks]

tp will torch his sorry d

[G-Dawgg]

You guys are nuts if you think Belinelli would be a better defender, playmaker or better at creating shots for himself.

[spursince#99]

No hate from Gary Neal here. Considering the small salary, the fact that he carved a career out of nothing, and the fact that he had mad confidence? I'm a fan regardless of the bad play from time to time. I'll miss him indeed. He was an inspiration. He was a living testimony for the cliche phrase, "you can achieve anything you want to achieve if you set your mind to it." Ball out homie you deserve it for real.

[ohmwrecker]

You guys are nuts if you think Belinelli would be a better defender, playmaker or better at creating shots for himself.

Explain.

[spurraider21]

Even though Green made more 3's, I thought Neal's game 3 was more impressive than green's. It felt like Green hit all his shots when the game was out of hand, but it was Neal who was hitting bomb after bomb to give us the big lead in the first place

[spursince#99]

You guys are nuts if you think Belinelli would be a better defender, playmaker or better at creating shots for himself.


He is a much better passer, and he is much better at creating his own shot. Watch some film before you post.

[spursince#99]

Will miss and always remember my nigga Gary 'balls of steel' Neal tbh. He had his flaws but niggas as fearless as him are hard to find, especially for 800k a year.

:lol

[therealtruth]

I hope Neal is back with the Spurs. When he got hot, he was awesome. He's a better offensive player than Green but Green plays much better D. Way too much hate going on for Neal.

Defense wins championships so Green is more valuable.

[FkLA]

Neals driving was underrated. He has pretty good touch around the basket, that little runner was money imo. He also has a nice pull-up after faking the three. You guys act like hes Danny Green or something, my nigga Gary could put the ball in the hole alot other ways than just threes tbh.

[tmtcsc]

:toast

[UZER]

I liked Neal. He was a gamer for his limited skill set.

All in all, he did well for the Spurs and I don't fault him for his bad back up point play. He's not a point guard, but was asked to play point guard in the NBA.

[Baam]

Neals driving was underrated. He has pretty good touch around the basket, that little runner was money imo. He also has a nice pull-up after faking the three. You guys act like hes Danny Green or something, my nigga Gary could put the ball in the hole alot other ways than just threes tbh.

He could do everything on the offensive game, very underrated I agree.

[G-Dawgg]

:/

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

He was good enough at his price. I'll definitely miss him, he made some great shots. The one to send the Clippers game into overtime made my day.

[playblair]

favorite neal moment .................

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[spursince#99]

Neals driving was underrated. He has pretty good touch around the basket, that little runner was money imo. He also has a nice pull-up after faking the three. You guys act like hes Danny Green or something, my nigga Gary could put the ball in the hole alot other ways than just threes tbh.

[G-Dawgg]

I live in Canada and watched him play on the Raptors regularly. I did watch him play this year also. He is not that great. He can pass a bit but As far as creatung shots, meh...

[Darkwaters]

favorite neal moment .................

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Wow, I had totally forgotten that moment. Great post playblair.

[PingPong]

No more Northside Ford Commercials
:depressed:lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGjeCbcK28w


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SaRVlMFa6g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdcHuqJZYLo

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Neals driving was underrated. He has pretty good touch around the basket, that little runner was money imo. He also has a nice pull-up after faking the three. You guys act like hes Danny Green or something, my nigga Gary could put the ball in the hole alot other ways than just threes tbh.
He could do a lot, but his preferred play is taking a long, contested jumper.

[G-Dawgg]

I've watched Belinelli play alot. There is no doubt he is a good shooter but offensively he isn't as fearless as Neal and he sure isn't a huge upgrade defensively. I just don't think he's an improvement. I'd rather see Neal back or an upgrade tbh..
Neal has finals experience and corporate knowledge. No sense in getting rid of him for Belinelli imo..

[TD 21]

I was fine with Neal's stint as a Spur, especially considering his salary, but he was one of the worst rotation players in the NBA during the 2nd half of the year, including playoffs, tbh..

He definitely was, but conveniently the vast majority ignored the fact that his calf strain and plantar fasciitis were the primary reasons for that. For two plus seasons, he proved he was one of the best shooters in the league and a sixth man caliber scorer and that's generally worth the MLE.

[FkLA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGnJ0uUgJIw

thank you for everything Gary :cry

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Come on to Denver Gary :smokin

[Darkwaters]

Wow, those Northside Ford commercials are horrible.

With Neal gone maybe they can pair Tiago with Belinelli. How many difficult to understand accents can we lump together?

[ducks]

Come on to Denver Gary :smokin

for what $

[Darkwaters]

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[Bill_Brasky]

Love Neal. Will be sad to see him go until I see how much he's being paid.

[PingPong]

Goodbye Neal!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNVhV-Bf3fY

[FkLA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCtWmD6j5J4

Shows his all-around game, with the little runner and the mid-range pull up. Damn Im gonna miss my nigga Gary. :cry

[Spurious]

He definitely was, but conveniently the vast majority ignored the fact that his calf strain and plantar fasciitis were the primary reasons for that. For two plus seasons, he proved he was one of the best shooters in the league and a sixth man caliber scorer and that's generally worth the MLE.

I was thrilled when this guy made the roster, seemingly out of nowhere. At the time, it was hailed as yet another SA front office coup to dig up an undrafted guy who could contribute on a contender. And that's what he did. Well or hurt, highly paid or playing for peanuts, from a basketball perspective it really doesn't matter in the end. He made a positive contribution in many ways and beat the odds to do so. I'm not quite sure how so many of these armchair GMs think he can be faulted for doing what he did to the best of his ability. I hope Gary has a long and fruitful career, wherever he ends up.

[KL2]

Worst defender in he entire NBA, couldn't run the point for shit, took terrible shots, and made stupid fouls almost always leading to and 1's. Spurs just got a whole lot better with Belli's signing, especially defensively.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Too bad Bel has just as bad D

[Darkwaters]

Worst defender in he entire NBA, couldn't run the point for shit, took terrible shots, and made stupid fouls almost always leading to and 1's. Spurs just got a whole lot better with Belli's signing, especially defensively.

Haters gonna hate

[davidbowie]

Garrryyyyy noooooooooo!!!!!!!!

:depressed

[dylankerouac]

Good luck to Neal if he ships out. He was good and extremely affordable while he was here.

[timvp]

How did Neal get so underrated by Spurs fans at the end? Odd, tbh. Biggest reason why the Spurs are seemingly letting him go is because SG is the deepest position on the team. There's just no way to justify another multi-year contract at that position. What Belinelli got was about the most the Spurs could pay.

Neal gave the Spurs outstanding performance for the money they paid him.

If this is the end, thanks :tu

[TheGreatYacht]

^Manu signifies the end. If he would have taken less money, the Spurs could have signed someone better than Belinelli. I can understand Tiago Splitter not wanting to sacrifice any $$$ because he's younger and it's his first shot at big $$$. But Manu? He was the one who should have sacrificed more.

[KL2]

Haters gonna hate


He was great last year but this year he was crap, I wish the best for him though, hope he gets paid after being severely underpaid.

[DesignatedT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d_BPXF0OqU

[elemento]

If he doesn't stay, all I can do is wish him luck.

He had great moments as a Spur. I will never forget tha 3-pointer against Memphis.

Not his fault he was asked to play as a PG tbh.

[PlayNando]

GOOD BYE HERO.

Tbh, for the price I can't really complain about him, though.

[TheGreatYacht]

If he doesn't stay, all I can do is wish him luck.

He had great moments as a Spur. I will never forget tha 3-pointer against Memphis.

Not his fault he was asked to play as a PG tbh.I will miss Gary Neal too. I agree with your comment. I'll never forget his Game 3 performance alongside Danny Green.

[toki9]

How did Neal get so underrated by Spurs fans at the end? Odd, tbh. Biggest reason why the Spurs are seemingly letting him go is because SG is the deepest position on the team. There's just no way to justify another multi-year contract at that position. What Belinelli got was about the most the Spurs could pay.

Neal gave the Spurs outstanding performance for the money they paid him.

If this is the end, thanks :tu

Probably due to unrealistic/unforgiving expectations about what players can/should do...Neal was great for what he was asked to do--particularly at the salary he was paid...we should all wish him luck and hope he had a huge payday...

[TheGreatYacht]

All you Spurs fans that were hating on my boy Gary Neal throughout the playoffs because of his defense and shot selection, well you got your wishes handled to you. "You don't know what you have until you lose it." I've seen people hate on Danny Green yet he's making half the $$$ that Redick, Kevin Martin, and Kyle Korver are. But you'll are ok with Manu getting over paid when he's way past his prime? Shame on you.

[ElNono]

All you Spurs fans that were hating on my boy Gary Neal throughout the playoffs because of his defense and shot selection, well you got your wishes handled to you. "You don't know what you have until you lose it." I've seen people hate on Danny Green yet he's making half the $$$ that Redick, Kevin Martin, and Kyle Korver are. But you'll are ok with Manu getting over paid when he's way past his prime? Shame on you.


I see a lot of disappointment in your future, tbh :lol

[baseline bum]

Neal's exit was sealed by Beli's signing. To give Belineli that 2 year deal the Spurs would need to either renounce Neal or amnesty Bonner, and letting Neal go is probably the better option. Wish Gary the best of luck wherever he ends up signing. I'll never forget the shot he hit to force OT in an elimination Game 5 vs Memphis or his ridiculous shooting in Game 3 against Miami.

[Budkin]

Bittersweet. Neal has been huge for us at times. Other times he's made us want to punch holes in the wall. Take care Gary.

[Budkin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d_BPXF0OqU

Probably the worst blunder Neal has ever made. Those 3 points ended up killing us.

[ElNono]

Neal gave great production. Still laughing at those that compared him to RMJ... good luck wherever he goes.

[Jordanobili2320]

I was fine with Neal's stint as a Spur, especially considering his salary, but he was one of the worst rotation players in the NBA during the 2nd half of the year, including playoffs, tbh..

thats pushing it a little bit....

[Jordanobili2320]

How did Neal get so underrated by Spurs fans at the end? Odd, tbh. Biggest reason why the Spurs are seemingly letting him go is because SG is the deepest position on the team. There's just no way to justify another multi-year contract at that position. What Belinelli got was about the most the Spurs could pay.

Neal gave the Spurs outstanding performance for the money they paid him.

If this is the end, thanks :tu

:toast

[Big P]

So can we sign and trade him to a team of his choice?

[Mel_13]

So can we sign and trade him to a team of his choice?

Yes

[Big P]

Thanks!

[bklynspursfan]

I'll miss Gary. Fearless, and had several memorable moments with us. He's carried the load offensively at times and hit big time shots. I hope he ends up with the Hawks and Bud/Ferry will Neal w him continue to let him be Gary.

[weebo]

MB>Neal that's all there is to it. Neal had some good moments for the Spurs but he also had moments you wish Pop would cut him on the spot.

All in all, he made the most out of his opportunity and now will reap the benefits of his hard work and good fortune.

[Vic Petro]

Neal in a nutshell


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-8ihO5y6h0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Russ]

How did Neal get so underrated by Spurs fans at the end? Odd, tbh. Biggest reason why the Spurs are seemingly letting him go is because SG is the deepest position on the team. There's just no way to justify another multi-year contract at that position. What Belinelli got was about the most the Spurs could pay.

Neal gave the Spurs outstanding performance for the money they paid him.

If this is the end, thanks :tu

:toast

I'm still holding out hope that Neal may be re-signed.

Had he been 100% for the Finals, I think the Spurs win. :(

[superbigtime]

Loved that ice water in his veins. Wish he could have had a better FG% and play better D. Gave max effort though.

[Mikeanaro]

I wish him the best, Gary is a cold blooded shooter, not a point guard by any means.
Now he has the chance to make some big bucks to secure his life, and will not suffer the pressure of Pop yelling him ¨YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT¨
We must NEAL WITH IT

[Leetonidas]

I always liked Neal and wish him well, dude had big balls and ice in his veins, not his fault he was injured most of the season. Good luck and keep on chuggin' Choo-Choo. :toast

[SA210]

I'll miss Neal. Dude had balls to launch at any moment (which was also what I hated at the same time lol). Unfortunately he couldn't play a lick of D and couldn't/wouldn't pass.

He had the game of his life in the NBA Finals, definitely something he won't ever forget, neither will Spurs fans.

I wish you well Neal. :toast You deserve a good contract somewhere.

[therealtruth]

Probably the worst blunder Neal has ever made. Those 3 points ended up killing us.

Yeah that was absolutely ludicrous. Neal had no clue how to guard a shooter. I won't miss his defensive lapses. Hopefully Beli is better at that.

[slick'81]

Spurs wanted to keep neal but settled for belli offseason keeps getting better

[timtonymanu]

It was pretty obvious. I'm actually not a Gary Neal hater like most and thought he was sort of underrated, but I'm not sad he's leaving.

[Strategic]

Neal drove me crazy at times. The man had no scruples. To all the folks whacking off over his departure I can only say "better luck with your next .85 mil. dollar man". Peeps are sounding like Neal had the same kind of contract Dick had.

[PlayNando]

It was pretty obvious. I'm actually not a Gary Neal hater like most and thought he was sort of underrated, but I'm not sad he's leaving.
It's hard to feel bad for a rapist, tbh.

[MeloHype]

I hope he doesn't go to memphis

[FkLA]

I hope he doesn't go to memphis

sweet sig bro :tu

[MeloHype]

sweet sig bro :tu
I don't have a sig

[Rogue]

If he could be had for a mid-level contract or something then Cuban must be a real dumbass to not go after him tbh. guy only costs less than half the money Monta costs and is capable of doing everything Monta can do

[SpurPadre]

I'm a proud Neal hater so today is a great day for me. Now, if we get rid of Bonner somehow, it'll almost feel like we won the Championship we rightfully deserved...again ALMOST.

[LarryDavid]

Get paid Neal!

[Assman]

We're losing the only guy on the team not scared to shoot. We definitely down graded here.

[coyotes_geek]

We're losing the only guy on the team not scared to shoot. We definitely down graded here.

Gary Neal not being scared to shoot wasn't always a good thing....

[Mr. Body]

Mad respect for Gary Neal. In a league where crap-ass players get tons and tons of money, this is a guy who came out of Towson-nowhere and earned himself millions. Good luck to the guy.

[coyotes_geek]

Mad respect for Gary Neal. In a league where crap-ass players get tons and tons of money, this is a guy who came out of Towson-nowhere and earned himself millions. Good luck to the guy.

:tu Agreed. He had his limitations, but he gave the Spurs incredible production for what they paid him.

[Rogue]

I'm a proud Neal hater so today is a great day for me. Now, if we get rid of Bonner somehow, it'll almost feel like we won the Championship we rightfully deserved...again ALMOST.
I'm an admirer of Neal and it's also a great day for me because he will be in the market for us to sign, or at least he won't play for our bitter rival anymore.

[Blind Witness]

I'm an admirer of Neal and it's also a great day for me because he will be in the market for us to sign, or at least he won't play for our bitter rival anymore.

My favorite Mav-fan on the board.
Level-headed and brings insightful takes.
Good taste in women, I might add...
kudos, brother.

[TE]

Please go to the East. I don't want you tormenting the Spurs tbh

[T Park]

Gary Neal is good people, while I wasn't a fan of his game I was a fan of him. His wife couldn't be nicer, sits in front of me and wife at the games and is great.

I wish him sincere good luck if he doesn't come back, hope he gets that great payday.

[dallasmaverickslose]

Wishing Gary Neal nothing but the best. Thank you again for that memorable game against the Heat!

[z0sa]

One of my favorite Spurs players post 2007. Good luck to you, sir!

[Beaverfuzz]

Glad Neal could get some more money out of someone else than what the Spurs were willing to pay. Welcome Marco!

[tuncaboylu]

I liked him while he was playing here. Usually he was making the guys seems like superstar who he was defending, but he was a good guy

Hope he will get good money.

Is sign& trade a possibility?

[spursnatic]

352884383155367940Love Gary Neal..If this is true will be surely missed..I hope wherever he goes he gets a Fat Contract..Well deserved..

[Juggity]

One last Neal with it...for old times' sake


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGnJ0uUgJIw

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Gary Neal is a good guy, tbh..some niggas just have the urge to rape some days, it happens, I guess we let it slide..

[blkroadrunners]

Neal's one of my favorite players, and I wish him the best wherever he goes.

CoJo, Marco and De Colo: practice hard this off-season.

[KaiRMD1]

Hope dude is a beast somewhere else. I'm sure there are other temas that would love his shooting touch. Sad to see him go but somebody had to leave. Will prob reunite with his boy Jack somewhere also. Best of luck to ya Neal!

[Marrow]

sign and trade would be the best course of action...for both the spurs and neal

[Darkwaters]

:lol Gary Neal is a good guy, tbh..some niggas just have the urge to rape some days, it happens, I guess we let it slide..

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[tenbeersbold]

I was fine with Neal's stint as a Spur, especially considering his salary, but he was one of the worst rotation players in the NBA during the 2nd half of the year, including playoffs, tbh..
Get outta here w/ that shitty take

You obviously don't watch too many games to spout that kind of ignorant BS

Gary was a BARGAIN and he'll be worth what ever someone pays him next

LMFAO,signing Splitter to a 4 year deal is the big mistake

Gary won us a few playoff and Finals games,WTF has Splitter done except fold like camping chair in the PO's

[AASATX]

Neal deserves to get paid he's proven himself. His lack of defense skills leaves a lot to be desired. But overall his time on the Spurs was ok.. especially for what we were paying him.

[kobyz]

Oh man! I'm gonna miss this guy! It's Very sad day in spurs history seeing him go, Neal is great, should be inspiration to all players in the world of hard work and how to be a competitor, for me Neal will always be a spurs legend, love this guy! What is also sad is seeing how much of you spurs fans are morons that not understand basketball, thinking Beli is an upgrade over the "Neal with it", Beli is not come close to what Neal is, if you want to find a comparison he is much closer to roger mason who is IMO the worst formar spurs player of all time.... Sad sad day in spurs history! Why pop why!!

[FkLA]

I don't have a sig

avatar...you know what i meant. dont play stupid, ill fuck you up tbh.

[MeloHype]

avatar...you know what i meant. dont play stupid, ill fuck you up tbh.
:lmao

[mudyez]

As a Spurs fan it always hurts seeing guys go, but Belli and his contract are a nice upgrade over Neal.

[Boomersgold]

Sad to see him go. Definitely underrated on these forums. He certainly copped a lot of undeserved criticism for a backup guard.

[TheGreatYacht]

Oh man! I'm gonna miss this guy! It's Very sad day in spurs history seeing him go, Neal is great, should be inspiration to all players in the world of hard work and how to be a competitor, for me Neal will always be a spurs legend, love this guy! What is also sad is seeing how much of you spurs fans are morons that not understand basketball, thinking Beli is an upgrade over the "Neal with it", Beli is not come close to what Neal is, if you want to find a comparison he is much closer to roger mason who is IMO the worst formar spurs player of all time.... Sad sad day in spurs history! Why pop why!!LOL @ Roger Mason Jr. You might as well add Keith Bogans to the list. That dude was a joke.

[Russ]

If Neal is so sure to leave, how come no rumors on whose after him or at what price?

[Darkwaters]

LOL @ Roger Mason Jr. You might as well add Keith Bogans to the list. That dude was a joke.

What? No hate for Nick Van Exel?

[Darkwaters]

If Neal is so sure to leave, how come no rumors on whose after him or at what price?

Hes a lower to middle tier free agent. Usually the bigger names have to get picked off before the lower tiers start to settle. Everyone has dreams of Dwight Howard and Chris Paul you know, but most people are left with money to spend and they end up spending it on a slew of guys like Neal. The fact that Belinelli signed when he did is probably a decent indication of his sincere interest in being a Spur.

[pgardn]

I loved that strong up jumper with great form. Neal goes up with so much stability on that jump shot, it was fun to watch. Pop gave him latitude to take shots because he could see the confidence Neal shot with. He is a guy that can win a game purely off that powerful jump shot.

I will not miss that horrible D. And the total acid panic that arose up my esophagus when Miami figured out neither Neal or Green could dribble, and they were on the floor at the same time. I will not miss Parker being run into the ground while not at full strength.

[Texas_Ranger]

read somewhere Portland is interested in him. I am also pretty sure there are some contenders that want him of the bench.

[cd021]

^Manu signifies the end. If he would have taken less money, the Spurs could have signed someone better than Belinelli. I can understand Tiago Splitter not wanting to sacrifice any $$$ because he's younger and it's his first shot at big $$$. But Manu? He was the one who should have sacrificed more.

Are you willing to cut your salary by atleast half? Its the same principle, He is worth that money, there is no debating that fact.

[cd021]

read somewhere Portland is interested in him. I am also pretty sure there are some contenders that want him of the bench.

Clippers maybe?

[Texas_Ranger]

Clippers maybe?

With JJ Redick, Dudley and Green I don't think they need a SG. Thunder would need him, so would the Rockets.

I think he'll land in Atlanta cause Ferry and Bud like him.

[Gervin44Silas13]

Great shooter horrid defense!!!!

[Skull-1]

Glad that Tracy Morgan lookalike is leaving. When he is on the court he reminds me of poorly written and acted comedy in more ways than one.

[spurspokesman]

Nothing but respect for gary. He deserves a decent payday.

[Monkeyboy14]

If he is gone...we would just have to "Neal with it".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA shut the fuck up

[Baam]

Neal on the Thunder would be a nightmare tbh...

[Mugen]

Great news tbh.

[DDUBB1770]

Quite possibly the worst defense I've ever seen but still made enough impact at other end to get deserved minutes unlike some other pussies on the team I.e. bonner!!! I will miss him and root for him where ever he lands we all should, if nothing else he may have had us pulling our hair out but the guy has balls and never went flat in the front in the spotlight!!! Choo choo bitches love and respect Gary good luck!!!

[look_at_g_shred]

If Neal is so sure to leave, how come no rumors on whose after him or at what price?

[therealtruth]

I doubt he will land with a playoff team. Not too many playoff teams can withstand a player with his defense in the rotation.

[TheGoldStandard]

Neal will get a deal with a decent team, if they are offering Market Value he's probably worth 3 Million a year.. Might get a lot more though.

[SpurSpurSpurs]

I will miss him.

He's the only guy that has the same size of balls as Tim Duncan. Gave positive results most of the time, but still is a CHUCKER!

[elec99]

Yeah, for a while when Neal was driven off the 3pt line he was able to put the ball on the floor and make a short J, but that was in the regular season. If he was able to continue that then no doubt in my mind he'd be kept, but void of that then he's just a spot up shooter, and a short one at that.

[davidbowie]

aww bye little nes

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[HarlemHeat37]

Get outta here w/ that shitty take

You obviously don't watch too many games to spout that kind of ignorant BS

Gary was a BARGAIN and he'll be worth what ever someone pays him next

LMFAO,signing Splitter to a 4 year deal is the big mistake

Gary won us a few playoff and Finals games,WTF has Splitter done except fold like camping chair in the PO's

:lol Gary Neal was one of the worst players in the NBA in 2013, this is a fact that can be proven with numbers, tbh..

I already said he was a bargain, though, I agree..

[Trill Clinton]

If Neal is so sure to leave, how come no rumors on whose after him or at what price?

because he's a role player

[Baam]

:lol Gary Neal was one of the worst players in the NBA in 2013, this is a fact that can be proven with numbers, tbh..

I already said he was a bargain, though, I agree..

So one of the worst player of the year had an incredible game in the Finals while injured...

[TheGreatYacht]

So one of the worst player of the year had an incredible game in the Finals while injured...I don't understand Spurs fans, I mean whenever a role player like Dejuan Blair or Gary Neal fuc* up, they get crucified. If a star player like Manu Ginobili fuc* up, then all is good. Manu having 8 turnovers in Game 6 against the cHeat is ok but Gary Neal taking a bad shot is not ok? Spurs homers at their best. So pathetic.

[HarlemHeat37]

So one of the worst player of the year had an incredible game in the Finals while injured...

Yes, he had a hot game in the Finals, he was horrible the rest of 2013, not sure what's so complicated:lol..

He was extremely inefficient in 2013, shooting atrociously embarrassing percentages from the field, along with being one of the 5 worst perimeter defenders in the entire league, tbh..

[HarlemHeat37]

So one of the worst player of the year had an incredible game in the Finals while injured...

Yes, he had a hot game in the Finals, he was horrible the rest of 2013, not sure what's so complicated:lol..

He was extremely inefficient in 2013, shooting embarrassing percentages from the field, along with being one of the 5 worst perimeter defenders in the entire league, tbh..

I'll give him a pass because he was hurt and his contract never hurt the Spurs, but these are facts, tbh..in addition to being a rapist, which is a type of person I'd rather not cheer for, tbh..

[Baam]

Yes, he had a hot game in the Finals, he was horrible the rest of 2013, not sure what's so complicated:lol..

He was extremely inefficient in 2013, shooting embarrassing percentages from the field, along with being one of the 5 worst perimeter defenders in the entire league, tbh..

I'll give him a pass because he was hurt and his contract never hurt the Spurs, but these are facts, tbh..in addition to being a rapist, which is a type of person I'd rather not cheer for, tbh..

That's defamation, the guy was proven innocent.

But yeah Gary is one of the very best shooter in the league and was far from being one of the worst players last year.

[spurman123]

That's defamation, the guy was proven innocent.

But yeah Gary is one of the very best shooter in the league and was far from being one of the worst players last year.

Gary is underrated for sure. He was never scared to just pull up 3 and he hit em like it was automatic. I guess his size hurt his longevity on the team. Hopefully, Beli can take us to the promised lands again

[Mr Fundamental]

Gary can win a game for you.

Not so many bench players can do that.

Hope he will stay.

[phxspurfan]

Neal was a beast with a sweet sweet jumper. I bet on a bad team he will average at least 18 a la Kevin Martin. Good luck buddy and thanks for the Neal with its

[Russ]

Hmmmmm . . .

Still no news on Neal.

Do the Spurs have him locked up? Just waiting out developments to determine the details?

Could the conventional wisdom here be that wrong? :) Or not . . .

[Agloco]

No hate for Gary Neal here. As a Summer League stand-out that signed an absolutely tiny deal, we've gotten 3 very solid years out of him. I've got nothing but love for him. Hopefully he can go somewhere and make a little cash, cause he won't get it from SA. Best regards.

This. He's a poster boy for persistence and patience. I'm glad to see his ship come in.

[Sean Cagney]

Neal was a beast with a sweet sweet jumper. I bet on a bad team he will average at least 18 a la Kevin Martin. Good luck buddy and thanks for the Neal with its

One dimensional horrible defender, he got beat so many times by the other guys player he gave up more than he made at times, his shot selection was horrible too sometimes (Some of the dumbest threes I have seen). He was a volume shooter, I would hardly call him a beast.

I agree thanks Neal and you had some good games! He was very limited though.

[Sean Cagney]

Yes, he had a hot game in the Finals, he was horrible the rest of 2013, not sure what's so complicated:lol..

He was extremely inefficient in 2013, shooting atrociously embarrassing percentages from the field, along with being one of the 5 worst perimeter defenders in the entire league, tbh..
You sir are correct. He is also one dimensional, can't drive at all and run the backup PG which POP tried with him. I wish him well though.
If he could be had for a mid-level contract or something then Cuban must be a real dumbass to not go after him tbh. guy only costs less than half the money Monta costs and is capable of doing everything Monta can do

Everything Monta can do?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't understand Spurs fans, I mean whenever a role player like Dejuan Blair or Gary Neal fuc* up, they get crucified. If a star player like Manu Ginobili fuc* up, then all is good. Manu having 8 turnovers in Game 6 against the cHeat is ok but Gary Neal taking a bad shot is not ok? Spurs homers at their best. So pathetic.

I do understand fans, I mean whenever a player, coach or anything is associated with the team fucks up then some part of the fan base will criticize the entity in question. If another fan disagrees, the initial fan will play the martyr card and act like the rest of the fanbase are fanboys and title themselves 'realists.'

It's a cliche nowadays fueled by sports media --especially rradio-- that is overwhelmingly annoying.

[Rogue]

You sir are correct. He is also one dimensional, can't drive at all and run the backup PG which POP tried with him. I wish him well though.

Everything Monta can do?
everything on the court I mean. Neal doesn't smoke dopes or tattoo for fun in his life.

[Sean Cagney]

everything on the court I mean. Neal doesn't smoke dopes or tattoo for fun in his life.

Neal cant drive in the lane at all though.

[TheGoldStandard]

Neal cant drive in the lane at all though.

All he had was that 2 dribble pull up.

[Sean Cagney]

All he had was that 2 dribble pull up.

Yep.

[TheWriter]

Gary can win a game for you.

Not so many bench players can do that.

Hope he will stay.


So can Marco. Move on.

[Werdsniper2]

I expected both Gary Neal and the Spurs organization to move on from each other, and so they apparently have. But let me say this:

Gary came into camp a few years ago, and nobody knew who he was. Just another former college player looking to make it big after a few years oversees.

He came, he played, he conquered. The Spurs signed him for pennies on the dollar.

This man was never the most talented on the floor, but he came out every night with the biggest heart of anyone.

He never complained. He was never a distraction. He never pretended to be something he wasn't. He was just Gary Neal.

People tried (and failed) to compare him to Roger Mason Jr. This kid was ice cold. Had bigger onions than most players making millions.

So here we are... 3 years later. One incredible game saving shot to keep a series alive. One amazing 3 PT onslaught to help secure a win in the finals.

He was never expected to amount to anything, but he is a warrior. He is the example of a dream come true for many young NBA fans all over the world.

So say what you want about him. We can go over his deficiencies on defense. We can analyze his propensity for wild shots. Or...

We can simply be satisfied with an incredible shooter who fell into our laps, all the while earning what amounts to about $2M over 3 years.

God bless you Gary, and good luck in the future.

[ezau]

^^ Amazing post. I'm sad to see Neal go, but I guess the Spurs did the right move by taking Marco. Neal is a baller and he's never afraid to take the big shots when it mattered. God Bless.

[Mel_13]

I expected both Gary Neal and the Spurs organization to move on from each other, and so they apparently have. But let me say this:

Gary came into camp a few years ago, and nobody knew who he was. Just another former college player looking to make it big after a few years oversees.

He came, he played, he conquered. The Spurs signed him for pennies on the dollar.

This man was never the most talented on the floor, but he came out every night with the biggest heart of anyone.

He never complained. He was never a distraction. He never pretended to be something he wasn't. He was just Gary Neal.

People tried (and failed) to compare him to Roger Mason Jr. This kid was ice cold. Had bigger onions than most players making millions.

So here we are... 3 years later. One incredible game saving shot to keep a series alive. One amazing 3 PT onslaught to help secure a win in the finals.

He was never expected to amount to anything, but he is a warrior. He is the example of a dream come true for many young NBA fans all over the world.

So say what you want about him. We can go over his deficiencies on defense. We can analyze his propensity for wild shots. Or...

We can simply be satisfied with an incredible shooter who fell into our laps, all the while earning what amounts to about $2M over 3 years.

God bless you Gary, and good luck in the future.

:clap

[hommeaetage]

I expected both Gary Neal and the Spurs organization to move on from each other, and so they apparently have. But let me say this:

Gary came into camp a few years ago, and nobody knew who he was. Just another former college player looking to make it big after a few years oversees.

He came, he played, he conquered. The Spurs signed him for pennies on the dollar.

This man was never the most talented on the floor, but he came out every night with the biggest heart of anyone.

He never complained. He was never a distraction. He never pretended to be something he wasn't. He was just Gary Neal.

People tried (and failed) to compare him to Roger Mason Jr. This kid was ice cold. Had bigger onions than most players making millions.

So here we are... 3 years later. One incredible game saving shot to keep a series alive. One amazing 3 PT onslaught to help secure a win in the finals.

He was never expected to amount to anything, but he is a warrior. He is the example of a dream come true for many young NBA fans all over the world.

So say what you want about him. We can go over his deficiencies on defense. We can analyze his propensity for wild shots. Or...

We can simply be satisfied with an incredible shooter who fell into our laps, all the while earning what amounts to about $2M over 3 years.

God bless you Gary, and good luck in the future.

:tu :toast

[benefactor]

Gary can win a game for you.

Not so many bench players can do that.

Hope he will stay.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPPTtXYu4A0

[wildbill2u]

Neal has marginally better stats on shooting percentages in FG, 3Pt and FT this year. This year his 3pt percentage was below 40% because of his injury. Some say Belinelli may be better defensively, but he was primarily a perimeter shooter in Chicago that they let go in order to bring in Mike Dunleavy. Defense has yet to be proved.

I thought Neal did a pretty good job over all in the playoffs. I wish him well.

[spurman123]

Neal has marginally better stats on shooting percentages in FG, 3Pt and FT this year. This year his 3pt percentage was below 40% because of his injury. Some say Belinelli may be better defensively, but he was primarily a perimeter shooter in Chicago that they let go in order to bring in Mike Dunleavy. Defense has yet to be proved.

I thought Neal did a pretty good job over all in the playoffs. I wish him well.
:chestbump

[blkroadrunners]

I expected both Gary Neal and the Spurs organization to move on from each other, and so they apparently have. But let me say this:

Gary came into camp a few years ago, and nobody knew who he was. Just another former college player looking to make it big after a few years oversees.

He came, he played, he conquered. The Spurs signed him for pennies on the dollar.

This man was never the most talented on the floor, but he came out every night with the biggest heart of anyone.

He never complained. He was never a distraction. He never pretended to be something he wasn't. He was just Gary Neal.

People tried (and failed) to compare him to Roger Mason Jr. This kid was ice cold. Had bigger onions than most players making millions.

So here we are... 3 years later. One incredible game saving shot to keep a series alive. One amazing 3 PT onslaught to help secure a win in the finals.

He was never expected to amount to anything, but he is a warrior. He is the example of a dream come true for many young NBA fans all over the world.

So say what you want about him. We can go over his deficiencies on defense. We can analyze his propensity for wild shots. Or...

We can simply be satisfied with an incredible shooter who fell into our laps, all the while earning what amounts to about $2M over 3 years.

God bless you Gary, and good luck in the future.

Good stuff.

[kobyz]

I expected both Gary Neal and the Spurs organization to move on from each other, and so they apparently have. But let me say this:

Gary came into camp a few years ago, and nobody knew who he was. Just another former college player looking to make it big after a few years oversees.

He came, he played, he conquered. The Spurs signed him for pennies on the dollar.

This man was never the most talented on the floor, but he came out every night with the biggest heart of anyone.

He never complained. He was never a distraction. He never pretended to be something he wasn't. He was just Gary Neal.

People tried (and failed) to compare him to Roger Mason Jr. This kid was ice cold. Had bigger onions than most players making millions.

So here we are... 3 years later. One incredible game saving shot to keep a series alive. One amazing 3 PT onslaught to help secure a win in the finals.

He was never expected to amount to anything, but he is a warrior. He is the example of a dream come true for many young NBA fans all over the world.

So say what you want about him. We can go over his deficiencies on defense. We can analyze his propensity for wild shots. Or...

We can simply be satisfied with an incredible shooter who fell into our laps, all the while earning what amounts to about $2M over 3 years.

God bless you Gary, and good luck in the future.

comparing Gary Neal to Roger Mason was one of the most shameful acts in ST history, i was so mad when that happened...
Gary Neal is all heart, warrior, work ethic and great teamate, sad sad seeing him go, still hold a little hope that he will stay, please front office come to sense, reconsider and do the right thing here...

[Baam]

I expected both Gary Neal and the Spurs organization to move on from each other, and so they apparently have. But let me say this:

Gary came into camp a few years ago, and nobody knew who he was. Just another former college player looking to make it big after a few years oversees.

He came, he played, he conquered. The Spurs signed him for pennies on the dollar.

This man was never the most talented on the floor, but he came out every night with the biggest heart of anyone.

He never complained. He was never a distraction. He never pretended to be something he wasn't. He was just Gary Neal.

People tried (and failed) to compare him to Roger Mason Jr. This kid was ice cold. Had bigger onions than most players making millions.

So here we are... 3 years later. One incredible game saving shot to keep a series alive. One amazing 3 PT onslaught to help secure a win in the finals.

He was never expected to amount to anything, but he is a warrior. He is the example of a dream come true for many young NBA fans all over the world.

So say what you want about him. We can go over his deficiencies on defense. We can analyze his propensity for wild shots. Or...

We can simply be satisfied with an incredible shooter who fell into our laps, all the while earning what amounts to about $2M over 3 years.

God bless you Gary, and good luck in the future.

Boom great post. And let's not forget Tiago got here at the same time and didn't do a fraction of what Gary did in the POs during that time frame...

[Mr Fundamental]

So can Marco. Move on.
On playoffs?

Move on.

[benefactor]

On playoffs?

Move on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOzq-f9Zt44

Game 7...8-14 from the field and 3-6 from distance for 24pts...and two clutch FT's to seal the game. Anymore criteria you'd like to add?

[Mr Fundamental]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOzq-f9Zt44

Game 7...8-14 from the field and 3-6 from distance for 24pts...and two clutch FT's to seal the game. Anymore criteria you'd like to add?No, thanks.

[benefactor]

:tu

[jyra]

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Eh.. eight guards for the next season? There has to be a trade in the making if Gary comes back.

[TXstbobcat]

I wonder what the spurs are offering him. $7 million over 2 years?

[bklynspursfan]

:wtf

[Kindergarten Cop]

Sign and trade? Either that or another trade has to be upcoming, right?

[Mel_13]

1. Bringing Neal back was the first choice for the Spurs

2. Neal was asking for more years and/or dollars than the Spurs were willing to spend.

3. Spurs move quickly to sign Belinelli as an affordable Neal replacement.

4. Neal discovers that there is no market for his services at the dollars/years he wanted.

5. Neal's price comes down to the point that he is too good a value for the Spurs not to match.

6. Spurs retain Neal, but now have a ridiculous logjam at the guard positions.

7. At least two of Nando, Joseph, Mills are traded this summer or one of them plus Belinelli are traded when Belinelli is eligible to be traded.

8. Spurs and Bucks are logical trade partners. Excess guards for Mbah a Moute would work.

[lcroock]

Maybe this gets us over the cap so that we can use the MLE?? Is it possible we used the bi-annual exemption on Bellenelli? Can one use the bi-annual exemption and the mid-level exemption in the same year?

[DesignatedT]

I would like to see the Spurs keep Neal after seeing them stand pat pretty much through FA.

IMO Manu continues his rapid decline and misses a good chunk of next season anyway. I would take having Neal on the roster over having Mills and De Colo.

[Mel_13]

Maybe this gets us over the cap so that we can use the MLE?? Is it possible we used the bi-annual exemption on Bellenelli? Can one use the bi-annual exemption and the mid-level exemption in the same year?

Don't need to sign Neal to use the MLE. The bi-annual exception was used on the Nando last summer. The Spurs will not have the BAE at their disposal again until next summer.

[ohmwrecker]

8. Spurs and Bucks are logical trade partners. Excess guards for Mbah a Moute would work.

That would be great, if the Bucks would do it.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

1. Bringing Neal back was the first choice for the Spurs

2. Neal was asking for more years and/or dollars than the Spurs were willing to spend.

3. Spurs move quickly to sign Belinelli as an affordable Neal replacement.

4. Neal discovers that there is no market for his services at the dollars/years he wanted.

5. Neal's price comes down to the point that he is too good a value for the Spurs not to match.

6. Spurs retain Neal, but now have a ridiculous logjam at the guard positions.

7. At least two of Nando, Joseph, Mills are traded this summer or one of them plus Belinelli are traded when Belinelli is eligible to be traded.

8. Spurs and Bucks are logical trade partners. Excess guards for Mbah a Moute would work.

That would be amazing.

Trading Belinelli would suck.

[Bruno]

Neal is a fine SG but, given Spurs roster, he will end up playing PG if he is re-signed.
After what he did when he played PG in the past two years, I'm sure I don't want that.

[AFBlue]

Wonder if the Spurs are going beyond 2yrs or higher than $4M/yr...

[Baam]

I still think it's tempting to trade Green right now, his trade value is as good as it's ever gonna get...

There's too many guards and too many bigs, so the Green + Bonner package is on the table if they get an offer they like...

[TXstbobcat]

Wonder if the Spurs are going beyond 2yrs or higher than $4M/yr...

My guess is 7 million over 2 years.

[ohmwrecker]

Neal is a fine SG but, given Spurs roster, he will end up playing PG if he is re-signed.
After what he did when he played PG in the past two years, I'm sure I don't want that.

I doubt he would have to play too much point with Manu, Belinelli and an, more than likely, improved CoJo as clear better options.

[benefactor]

Bringing back Neal now would be foolish. Let him walk to whatever team wants him for whatever price.

[raybies]

1. Bringing Neal back was the first choice for the Spurs

2. Neal was asking for more years and/or dollars than the Spurs were willing to spend.

3. Spurs move quickly to sign Belinelli as an affordable Neal replacement.

4. Neal discovers that there is no market for his services at the dollars/years he wanted.

5. Neal's price comes down to the point that he is too good a value for the Spurs not to match.

6. Spurs retain Neal, but now have a ridiculous logjam at the guard positions.

7. At least two of Nando, Joseph, Mills are traded this summer or one of them plus Belinelli are traded when Belinelli is eligible to be traded.

8. Spurs and Bucks are logical trade partners. Excess guards for Mbah a Moute would work.

I was doing some research on what the Buck could offer in a sign and trade. Realistically it's Mbah a Moute or Udoh. I don't think that's enough value for him as Luc would likely be a third stringer, and the same for Udoh. I would think we would go for a 1st round pick, unlikely given the Bucks seeding, another rotational player preferably the point, or a young piece like Henson.

Ilysova, or Henson. Milwaukee might on Henson but for Ilysova probably not. They are going to need his production and a Bonner, Neal, Nando/ Cory package wouldn't be enough, one would think.

Although they need to fill out the roster and the Bucks have been known to make questionable decisions.

[raybies]

Neal is a fine SG but, given Spurs roster, he will end up playing PG if he is re-signed.
After what he did when he played PG in the past two years, I'm sure I don't want that.

Agreed. He doesn't really handle being pressured well, but he does show flashes that he is able. He's at his best as a SG.

[apalisoc_9]

Ilyasova is not a possibility. That said, he'd make perfect spur.

[raybies]

My guess is 7 million over 2 years.

That's about what Green makes and he is a starter. Around 6 million at 2 years sound right, if they are keeping this two year trend up, But a four year deal at 12 million doesn't sound bad either.

[Darkwaters]

I still think it's tempting to trade Green right now, his trade value is as good as it's ever gonna get...

There's too many guards and too many bigs, so the Green + Bonner package is on the table if they get an offer they like...

The problem is for all the shooters this team has, most of them can't defend for crap.

Mills - Crap
Bonner - well below average
Belinelli - well below average
Neal - Crap

Green - Very solid, excellent shooter
Leonard - Very solid, not nearly as good of a shooter as everyone above him on this list

Trading Green may sound good in theory, but it strips something from this team. Being able to keep capable shooters on the floor while limiting the number of players you have to "hide" on offense made a lot of difference. Green was a huge part of that.

[SpurPadre]

The problem is for all the shooters this team has, most of them can't defend for crap.

Mills - Crap
Bonner - well below average
Belinelli - well below average
Neal - Crap

Green - Very solid, excellent shooter
Leonard - Very solid, not nearly as good of a shooter as everyone above him on this list

Trading Green may sound good in theory, but it strips something from this team. Being able to keep capable shooters on the floor while limiting the number of players you have to "hide" on offense made a lot of difference. Green was a huge part of that.

That's not true on Marco. He improved quite noticeably on D this year under Thibs and in the playoffs as well.

[SpursDynasty21]

It looks like there could be a trade coming up, if Neal is re-signed.

[Darkwaters]

Ilysova, or Henson. Milwaukee might on Henson but for Ilysova probably not. They are going to need his production and a Bonner, Neal, Nando/ Cory package wouldn't be enough, one would think.

Although they need to fill out the roster and the Bucks have been known to make questionable decisions.

I looked at Henson out of curiosity. The guy is a throwback Spur of old. He shot 53% from the FT line last year. That's classic Spurs material!

That being said, his averages look solid, but it's based off of 13MPG, which means it's probably all garbage time from the regular times the Bucks got blown out last season. Basically, those stats don't mean a whole lot of anything.

But that FT percentage....I instantly had visions of Spurs greats like Bruce Bowen.

In all seriousness though, it's generally good practice to trade with Milwaukee. They basically always lose their trades.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

That's not true on Marco. He improved quite noticeably on D this year under Thibs and in the playoffs as well.

I was thinking the same thing. He was a solid average playing with the Bulls and in some stints above average.

[Darkwaters]

That's not true on Marco. He improved quite noticeably on D this year under Thibs and in the playoffs as well.

Just because you go from a 2 to a 3 doesn't mean you're average. Look, I love Marco, and have for a long time, but it's definitely true.

[Raven]

I was doing some research on what the Buck could offer in a sign and trade. Realistically it's Mbah a Moute or Udoh. I don't think that's enough value for him as Luc would likely be a third stringer, and the same for Udoh. I would think we would go for a 1st round pick, unlikely given the Bucks seeding, another rotational player preferably the point, or a young piece like Henson.

Ilysova, or Henson. Milwaukee might on Henson but for Ilysova probably not. They are going to need his production and a Bonner, Neal, Nando/ Cory package wouldn't be enough, one would think.

Although they need to fill out the roster and the Bucks have been known to make questionable decisions.

wow, pendergraph and belinelli for either udoh or mbah would be great, even if i don't consider them good.. getting a first rounder or iliasova or freaking henson is borderline pau gasol trade..

[SpurPadre]

Is there a possibility this is foreshadowing a sign and trade to get Monta Ellis to be our backup PG?

[Raven]

That's not true on Marco. He improved quite noticeably on D this year under Thibs and in the playoffs as well.

you obviously have never seen belinelli play.. first you say that he's more athletic than green, then that he is not a below average defender... seriously, it's not like he's an unknown quantity.

[davidbowie]

hell yeah welcome back gary!

[SpurPadre]

you obviously have never seen belinelli play.. first you say that he's more athletic than green, then that he is not a below average defender... seriously, it's not like he's an unknown quantity.

You're really analyzing everything I put out on Marco, aren't you? Any ways, I've seen him play and the guy can ball. The guy can create his own shot and can take it successfully to the rim. He is not a defensive wizard but he stays with his man and makes shooters work for their shot and it definitely showed against the Nets and Heat in the playoffs.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah something has to be up. I don't see the Spurs handing out 15 guaranteed contracts in July.

I like Gary and think he can be useful, but the Spurs already have too many guards and I much prefer Beli over him.

[Darkwaters]

Is there a possibility this is foreshadowing a sign and trade to get Monta Ellis to be our backup PG?

Another guard? I find it highly doubtful.

Consider that we'd sign Neal and acquire Ellis. That's 9 guards. But of course players would have to go to Milwaukee, and we'd probably send at least two (my guess would be Mills and DeColo). We still then have 7 guards...all of them deserving of minutes.

Parker
Joseph
Ginobili
Green
Belinelli
Ellis
Neal

Seriously, who are you going to bench there? And you can steal a few minutes at the 3, but Leonard is going to soak up the lions share of those minutes anyways.

I guess you could send out Joseph also in that trade. But does Milwaukee want to acquire their whole guard rotation as a transplant from San Antonio? And does San Antonio have enough PG's at that juncture? Besides, Bonner probably has to move in that trade to make the salaries come close, and that's 3-4 players leaving San Antonio to Milwaukee's one. Do they want all that garbage from us?

[Duncanonu]

1. Bringing Neal back was the first choice for the Spurs

2. Neal was asking for more years and/or dollars than the Spurs were willing to spend.

3. Spurs move quickly to sign Belinelli as an affordable Neal replacement.

4. Neal discovers that there is no market for his services at the dollars/years he wanted.

5. Neal's price comes down to the point that he is too good a value for the Spurs not to match.

6. Spurs retain Neal, but now have a ridiculous logjam at the guard positions.

7. At least two of Nando, Joseph, Mills are traded this summer or one of them plus Belinelli are traded when Belinelli is eligible to be traded.

8. Spurs and Bucks are logical trade partners. Excess guards for Mbah a Moute would work.

Mbah a Moute? IDK, offensively He is a horrible fit for Spurs system. He can be guarded like Rondo (as in not guarded outside of 14 feet or so). However, on defense and in the locker room he'd be the perfect fit. Interesting idea.

As for Neal, I'm scared if they re-sign him, he logs minutes at PG again. Dudes handles are not good, offense slows to a crawl until inevitably Manu throws up some junk with the shot clock expiring. Go away Neal or play spot minutes as a SG when Green and Marco aren't hitting. Unfortunately, Pop will squeeze him in at PG.

Is there any talk of moving a guy like Patty Mills? Mills holds value and to be honest with you, most teams are dumbfounded as to why he rides the Spurs bench. If we aren't going to play him, can we move him? All I know is that the Spurs shouldn't be carrying all these PG's. Especially when you take into account Manu and Neal (if back) as well.

I agree dealing two guards for a true SF would be nice. I'd like to see Neal and Nando gone, but thats just me.

Spurs also still after Morrow as well.

[Baam]

Maybe a a trade involving Draymond Green, Golden State has too many SF now, not sure who they'd want back tho...

[ohmwrecker]

PG Parker/Ellis/Cojo
SG Green/Manu/Beli
SF Kawhi/Beli/Manu
PF Duncan/Boris/Moute (or, Udoh)
C Splitter/Duncan/Baynes

Make this happen, RC.

[Raven]

You're really analyzing everything I put out on Marco, aren't you? Any ways, I've seen him play and the guy can ball. The guy can create his own shot and can take it successfully to the rim. He is not a defensive wizard but he stays with his man and makes shooters work for their shot and it definitely showed against the Nets and Heat in the playoffs.

so that's all you've seen of the guy? in that case i can understand..

[SpurPadre]

Another guard? I find it highly doubtful.

Consider that we'd sign Neal and acquire Ellis. That's 9 guards. But of course players would have to go to Milwaukee, and we'd probably send at least two (my guess would be Mills and DeColo). We still then have 7 guards...all of them deserving of minutes.

Parker
Joseph
Ginobili
Green
Belinelli
Ellis
Neal

Seriously, who are you going to bench there? And you can steal a few minutes at the 3, but Leonard is going to soak up the lions share of those minutes anyways.

I guess you could send out Joseph also in that trade. But does Milwaukee want to acquire their whole guard rotation as a transplant from San Antonio? And does San Antonio have enough PG's at that juncture? Besides, Bonner probably has to move in that trade to make the salaries come close, and that's 3-4 players leaving San Antonio to Milwaukee's one. Do they want all that garbage from us?

I was thinking we'd re-sign Neal only to switch back and trade him along with others for Ellis, if the Bucks re-sign him. I guess it would be too convoluted.

[TheCerebral1]

PG Parker/Ellis/Cojo
SG Green/Manu/Beli
SF Kawhi/Beli/Manu
PF Duncan/Boris/Moute (or, Udoh)
C Splitter/Duncan/Baynes

Make this happen, RC.

Completely unlikely unless you move half of that depth.

[spurraider21]

Either this is a prelude to a trade, or I'm very confused as to our strategy here