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Clipper Nation
07-05-2013, 02:57 PM
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:lol Trading for Dick Jefferson

Robz4000
07-05-2013, 03:00 PM
:lmao Jazz

ffadicted
07-05-2013, 03:30 PM
I have no idea wtf they're getting back

Juggity
07-05-2013, 03:30 PM
What in the holy fuck are the jazz thinking. Is this just a straight up tank move?

Joyrider
07-05-2013, 03:31 PM
Huge amount of cap next year along with a first rounder draft pick and chance to tank for Wiggins. It's not bad if you think about it. Jazz weren't going anywhere anyway.

Robz4000
07-05-2013, 03:32 PM
Tbh if the league really gives that much of a shit about team's tanking, they should basketball reasons the hell out of this trade.

Mal
07-05-2013, 03:38 PM
Utah is planning to tank for this 25% chance of getting 1st pick, but league with give this one to Lakers with their 2,5 %

Thread
07-05-2013, 03:43 PM
Utah is planning to tank for this 25% chance of getting 1st pick, but league with give this one to Lakers with their 2,5 %

Your pussy & asshole is showing, Mal.

Baam
07-05-2013, 03:45 PM
Tanking for this draft class is very smart for the Jazz...

lurker23
07-05-2013, 03:50 PM
This is a brilliant move for the Jazz. Their entire MO this season is to develop their young guys (Burke/Burks/Hayward/Favors/Kanter) and (in part because they're playing all young guys) tank this season to get more good draft picks next year.

This trade does a few amazing things for the Jazz:

1. They use their cap space on horrible players instead of good ones. If you use your cap space on good players, they take minutes away from the young guys and keep you in NBA limbo (i.e.- somewhere around the 10th to 20th best team).

2. Any minutes that Jefferson and Biedrins get are mostly serving to make the team worse, thus aiding in their tanking.

3. Because Jefferson and Biedrins are so bad, no one will be clamoring for them to get minutes, so they can continue to play their young guys heavy minutes (developing the youth, plus tanking without really trying).

4. On top of all this, they're probably getting a 1st rounder or two from the Warriors.

Thread
07-05-2013, 03:56 PM
It's ugly & vulgar what Utah has done. But, a direct correlation twixt supply & demand and a screaming eagle for contraction by 25% (at least).

lurker23
07-05-2013, 04:00 PM
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07-05-2013, 04:01 PM
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Thread
07-05-2013, 04:02 PM
^& Utah will conduct them as a good farm system should= ferret their talent, vet their resume, teach them the NBA way?, then disperse them.

DPG21920
07-05-2013, 04:04 PM
Ok, not the best of deals IMO for how much they helped GS, but not awful. Should have gotten more IMO, but it's acceptable for their strategy. GS got lucky because this helps them so much with regards to giving them a ton of options. They would have had great cap space next year if they did not make the move (and did not sign Iggy), which definitely might have worked out better in the long run for building long-term success. But we will see.

Brazil
07-05-2013, 04:14 PM
Ok, not the best of deals IMO for how much they helped GS, but not awful. Should have gotten more IMO, but it's acceptable for their strategy. GS got lucky because this helps them so much with regards to giving them a ton of options. They would have had great cap space next year if they did not make the move (and did not sign Iggy), which definitely might have worked out better in the long run for building long-term success. But we will see.

every time you can get rid of Dick / Biedrins it's a good move

LarryDavid
07-05-2013, 04:28 PM
All in for Wiggins

cd98
07-05-2013, 04:39 PM
Jabari Parker is mormon and would probably stay there his whole career.

Mal
07-05-2013, 05:08 PM
Jabari Parker is mormon and would probably stay there his whole career.

So was Freddette and they didnt take him, when got chance

JMarkJohns
07-05-2013, 05:11 PM
Jimmer isn't 6-8 and the combination of the best of Battier and Brand.

Parker is a great NBA prospect. Would make a ton of sense of the Jazz are tanking for him.

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-05-2013, 05:16 PM
:lol I looked at what jmark was saying then I realized some dumbshit was comparing jimmer to Jabari Parker :lmao

Girasuck
07-05-2013, 05:55 PM
I'm a happy, happy Jazz fan!!

lol at people thinking this was a horrible move for Utah.

Girasuck
07-05-2013, 11:28 PM
Andris Biedrins, Richard Jefferson, Brandon Rush, 2014 unprotected first round pick, 2017 unprotected first round pick, and two future second round picks to the Jazz for Kevin Murphy.

I love Dennis Lindsey. We'll have cap space next year plus 2 first round picks in a loaded draft with one of them in the lottery. This is a true professional tank job.

Mori Chu
07-05-2013, 11:45 PM
Phoenix Suns got this same haul for sign and trading Steve Nash's corpse withOUT taking on 25 mil of bantha fodder. What complete shit for Utah. Fail. Would have gotten way more for taking on such an insane amount of ballast.

Girasuck
07-05-2013, 11:49 PM
Phoenix Suns got this same haul for sign and trading Steve Nash's corpse withOUT taking on 25 mil of bantha fodder. What complete shit for Utah. Fail. Would have gotten way more for taking on such an insane amount of ballast.

Idiot talking. We had to fill out our cap space for this season dumbass. Why sign better players when we're in tank mode?

Mori Chu
07-05-2013, 11:56 PM
I know you shouldnt have signed long term deals instead. I'm just saying that you had all the leverage, could have gotten so much more for surrendering such an insane amount of cap space.