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DMX7
07-07-2013, 12:06 PM
Her election would mark the climax of the brokenness in Washington. You could literally draft up the political science textbooks for the kids with her face on a timeline and point to that where the bottom in American politics was finally reached (at least in the Congress, anyway).


LUSK, Wyo. — A young Dick Cheney began his first campaign for the House in this tiny village — population 1,600 — after the state’s sole Congressional seat finally opened up. But nowadays, his daughter Liz does not seem inclined to wait patiently for such an opening.http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/us/politics/a-cheney-on-the-wyoming-ballot-if-so-a-problem-for-the-gop.html?pagewanted=all

boutons_deux
07-07-2013, 12:56 PM
Will Wyoming cowboys and bubbas elect a co-habitating lesbian with 2 children (who are obviously fucked up according the "Christian" haters), even a Cheney lesbian?

DMX7
07-07-2013, 01:00 PM
I thought it was her sister that was gay.

boutons_deux
07-07-2013, 01:08 PM
ah yes, Mary is the lesbian

2centsworth
07-07-2013, 01:47 PM
Huge Liz Cheney fan here. Love intelligent women.

boutons_deux
07-07-2013, 05:52 PM
Everything You Need To Know About A Possible Liz Cheney Senate Run
You may remember Liz Cheney, the daughter of former vice president Dick Cheney and former State Department official. Since her dad left office, she’s spent most of her time defending his legacy and blasting President Obama’s policies, often as a Fox News contributor.


In today’s Republican Party, this apparently qualifies her to run for the U.S. Senate in Wyoming — not Virginia, where she spends much of her time. According to The New York Times, Cheney is considering taking on Senator Mike Enzi (R-WY) (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/us/politics/a-cheney-on-the-wyoming-ballot-if-so-a-problem-for-the-gop.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&), even if that means facing the 69-year-old incumbent in a primary.

State Republicans fear this race could spell “the destruction of the Republican Party of Wyoming if she decides to run and he runs, too,” said former senator Alan K. Simpson. “It’s a disaster — a divisive, ugly situation — and all it does is open the door for the Democrats for 20 years.”

But opening doors for Democrats has become a tradition for the Cheney family.

Former speechwriter for President Obama and creator of NBC’s 1600 Penn, Jon Lovett, used Twitter to give a quick introductory course on Liz Cheney that nicely sums up who she is in exactly 10 tweets.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-a-possible-liz-cheney-senate-run/

DMX7
07-07-2013, 06:21 PM
Huge Liz Cheney fan here. Love intelligent women.

Then you must love Liz Cheney for a different reason.

2centsworth
07-07-2013, 06:37 PM
Then you must love Liz Cheney for a different reason.

she's as smart as they come. Don't know you, but you probably don't think any Republicans are smart. If they were, they wouldn't be Republicans:)

Jacob1983
07-08-2013, 12:26 AM
Wouldn't Republicans want this? They definitely need help when it comes to issues related to gayness and gay people.

DMX7
07-08-2013, 01:03 AM
Wouldn't Republicans want this? They definitely need help when it comes to issues related to gayness and gay people.

She is not gay. She's married to a man and she has 5 children.

Spurs da champs
07-08-2013, 01:30 AM
Mary Cheney is the lesbo.

Jacob1983
07-08-2013, 01:54 AM
A GOP politician that is related to gay people would still help them with gayness and gay people.

Spurs da champs
07-08-2013, 02:14 AM
A GOP politician that is related to gay people would still help them with gayness and gay people.
That's such a naive way of thinking.

Look at Matt Salmon, he's got a gay son & yet he's still anti gay rights, how does he help with "gayness" & "gay people"?

boutons_deux
07-08-2013, 05:11 AM
she's as smart as they come. Don't know you, but you probably don't think any Republicans are smart. If they were, they wouldn't be Republicans:)

Smart doesn't mean "right".

Repugs fuck the 99%, enrich/protect the 1%, are heavily pro-BIG, intrusive government (in fact, not in propaganda), are anti-Human-American.

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-08-2013, 05:20 AM
A GOP politician that is related to gay people would still help them with gayness and gay people.

No it wouldn't if that politician still has anti-gay views. Fortunately for her it doesn't matter in Wyoming since it's not exactly the gay capital of America.

George Gervin's Afro
07-08-2013, 07:51 AM
Do we need another fox news contributor in congress?

spursncowboys
07-08-2013, 08:49 AM
Huge Liz Cheney fan here. Love intelligent women.
+100

AntiChrist
07-08-2013, 10:19 AM
You can think what you want about her politics, but she's anything but dumb.

DMX7
07-08-2013, 10:23 AM
You can think what you want about her politics, but she's anything but dumb.

She's a complete idiot and her politics are a reflection of her utter stupidity.

TeyshaBlue
07-08-2013, 10:26 AM
She's a complete idiot and her politics are a reflection of her utter stupidity.

Got anything remotely factual to back this up, or are you talking out of your ass again?

AntiChrist
07-08-2013, 10:26 AM
She's a complete idiot and her politics are a reflection of her utter stupidity.

What specifically makes her an idiot?

boutons_deux
07-08-2013, 10:26 AM
her Repug/conservative politics is more important than her smarts.

Smart with fucked up politics, willful misgovernance, fucked up policies is dumb.

Repugs are obviously anti-intellectual (science/medical/education deniers), so being smart doesn't fly with the older, biased, white, rural, ignorant, uneducated base.

TeyshaBlue
07-08-2013, 10:27 AM
lol

spursncowboys
07-08-2013, 10:41 AM
I'm assuming the people calling her dumb consider themselves smart...

RandomGuy
07-08-2013, 11:47 AM
Her election would mark the climax of the brokenness in Washington. You could literally draft up the political science textbooks for the kids with her face on a timeline and point to that where the bottom in American politics was finally reached (at least in the Congress, anyway).

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/us/politics/a-cheney-on-the-wyoming-ballot-if-so-a-problem-for-the-gop.html?pagewanted=all


state’s sole Congressional seat

Technically, Wyoming has three Congressional seats, two in the Senate, and one in the House of representatives.

RandomGuy
07-08-2013, 11:50 AM
No it wouldn't if that politician still has anti-gay views. Fortunately for her it doesn't matter in Wyoming since it's not exactly the gay capital of America.

just ask Andrew Shepards mother. :(

CosmicCowboy
07-08-2013, 12:35 PM
I'd do her. She always dresses frumpy but I'll bet she is a tiger in bed.

Jacob1983
07-08-2013, 05:10 PM
If the GOP ever wants their party to win a presidential election again, they are going to have to cave at least a little and offer some shit to gay people.

boutons_deux
07-09-2013, 08:19 AM
If the GOP ever wants their party to win a presidential election again, they are going to have to cave at least a little and offer some shit to gay people.

Gay people won't swing an election. It's the female vote, the youth vote, the Hispanic/black vote that will sink the Repugs everywhere at every level where the Repugs fail to suppress enough of those groups' votes.

RandomGuy
07-09-2013, 09:23 AM
If the GOP ever wants their party to win a presidential election again, they are going to have to cave at least a little and offer some shit to gay people.

Nope. Notgonnahappen.

Moderates "comprimise their principles" and are demonized and cast out for heresy.

boutons_deux
07-17-2013, 10:59 AM
1. Defended waterboarding. In a 2009 interview, Cheney defended (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/04/23/37795/liz-cheney-torture-sere/) the infamous Bush-era torture memos (http://web.archive.org/web/20111012180949/http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/pr20090417), arguing that the brutal techniques, such as waterboarding, that were authorized by the memos are not torture. Cheney invoked the false argument (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1892708,00.html) that the techniques were not torture because they were derived from special forces training called Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Evasion (SERE) — an argument debunked (http://mediamatters.org/research/2009/04/21/contradicting-bush-justice-dept-angle-equated-w/149355) by the Bush Department of Justice’s own memos.

2. Portrayed Department of Justice lawyers as terrorist-sympathizers. Along with Republican pundit Bill Kristol (http://thinkprogress.org/tag/bill-kristol/), Cheney co-founded a right-wing attack group called Keep America Safe. The Cheney-chaired tax-exempt “social welfare” group ran an infamous ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZIxg7LmlEQg) noting that some attorneys working under Attorney General Eric Holder had previously done work against indefinite detention of Guantanamo prisoners. The spot called these lawyers, the “Al Qaeda 7,” asking, “Whose values do they share?” The attack was denounced by former Bush Attorney General Michael Mukasey (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/03/10/85903/mukasey-cheney-shoddy-dangerous/), Sen. Lindsay Graham (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/03/09/85837/graham-america-safe/) (R-SC), and an array of prominent conservatives (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34050.html). Cheney stubbornly defended the ad, falsely claiming, “it doesn’t question anybody’s loyalty.”

3. Suggested freedom of religion should not apply to Muslims. In 2010, Cheney stoked the Islamaphobic controversy (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/08/02/111051/liz-cheney-mosque/) over the building of a Mosque and Muslim community center in midtown Manhattan. First, Cheney made an unsubstantiated attack on the Imam leading the project, saying, “When you’ve got an Imam that has got the very questionable and dubious ties to radical Islamist organizations that this man does, saying he’s going to build a mosque at Ground Zero, I think we as Americans have every right to say, ‘No you’re not going to do that.’” Her group offered no evidence to support the claim and the FBI had praised his cooperation (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/nyregion/09mosque.html) after 9/11. Then, when pushed as to whether she’d oppose the project even without the Imam’s alleged terror connections, Cheney still wouldn’t concede, responding, “It would depend.”

4. Blasted Obama for not being pro-America enough. In 2009, Cheney falsely attacked (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/06/11/45209/liz-cheney-obama-exceptionalism/) President Obama for not telling other countries about how exceptional the USA is. “We’ve now seen several different occasions when he’s been on the international trips, where he’s not willing to say, flat out, ‘I believe in American exceptionalism,’” she charged. At an April 2008 NATO summit in France, Obama expressly had said, “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism. I’m enormously proud of my country and its role and history in the world. … And I think that we have a core set of values that are enshrined in our Constitution, in our body of law, in our democratic practices, in our belief in free speech and equality, that, though imperfect, are exceptional.”

5. Repeatedly suggested that Obama appeases terrorists. In a 2012 Wall Street Journal op/ed (http://web.archive.org/web/20120915061510/http://www.mittromney.com/news/press/2012/09/liz-cheney-cairo-benghazi-and-obama-foreign-policy), Cheney suggested that the attacks on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya happened because the President’s foreign policy was one of appeasement (http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/13/842351/romney-campaign-pushing-false-line-that-apologies-caused-attacks-in-libya/). “Apologizing for America, appeasing our enemies, abandoning our allies and slashing our military are the hallmarks of Mr. Obama’s foreign policy.” Earlier that year, she blasted proposed military spending reductions (http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/01/13/402244/liz-cheney-white-house-defense-cuts-accomplish-al-qaeda-and-taliban-objectives/), saying “I think in fact what President Obama is doing is something that America’s enemies — the Taliban and Al Qaeda — have been unable to do, which is to decimate the fighting capability of this nation.”


In her announcement video, Cheney repeated some of these attacks:


President Obama has launched a war on our Second Amendment rights. He’s launched a war on our religious freedom. He’s used the IRS to launch a war on our freedom of speech. And he’s used the EPA to launch a war on Wyoming’s ranchers, our farmers, and our energy industry. He’s working to nationalize one-sixth of our economy with job-killing Obamacare. He has so effectively diminished our strength abroad that there’s no longer a question about whether this was his intent. He’s working to preemptively disarm America while rogue states like North Korea and Iran build nuclear weapons capabilities and stockpiles.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/07/17/2313551/liz-cheney-senate-primary/

Th'Pusher
07-19-2013, 08:45 PM
Early poll shows her getting destroyed by Mike Enzi for senate bid: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/wyoming-senate-poll-liz-cheney-mike-enzi-94480.html?hp=f2

exstatic
07-19-2013, 11:01 PM
Early poll shows her getting destroyed by Mike Enzi for senate bid: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/wyoming-senate-poll-liz-cheney-mike-enzi-94480.html?hp=f2

Dick will just pay someone to waterboard that old man into submission...